/lit/ - Literature

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>>13900742
I definitely think that there is an uncomfortable tendency to suffering that is present in midwits but not the transcendent genius.

>>13900748
That's wrong. One of the surprising things about suffering and despair is how it's equally prevalent both among the lowest of the common filth, and the highest of the high spirits that ever walked through this earth.

>>13900742
Getting /lit/ is only justified if it helps you become a better more altruistic person.
You must use your /lit/ powers for the highest good and to serve humanity, dont just wallow in selfishness.

>>13900767
How?

If you are looking for a higher knowledge or some objective truth I don't think it exists.

If you want to be a loser that convinces normies he is lit, like Dazai or Bukowsky, sure go for it. In that case you are approaching the game from a different angle.

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>>13900742
A supposed man who keeps anime on his computer is an incel, what a total shock.

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>>13900909
If you want to become a normal man who has sex with women and eventually procreates, step one involves not storing little girl cartoons on your fucking phone.

>>13900886
Yeah, I'm pretty much the type. The other guy isn't me btw. What more would you like to know?

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>>13900886
Why does anime make people so angry? Especially on this website.

>>13900938
I think I know enough. Trying to help, though. There are steps one can take to become less miserable, but complaining about being an incel while posting anime is like not showering then wondering why no one sits next to you on the bus.

>>13900953
You must not understand the NPC meme if you think normal, well-adjusted white men are somehow the ones who don't get it if they don't keep little girl jap cartoons on their phone.

>>13900999
First, because it doesn't belong here. Second, it is reflective of a juvenile mentality and infantilism, and normal people rightly do not respect such characteristics in men.

>>13901094
Seething

>>13901094
>First, because it doesn't belong here.
This is an anime website.
>normal people rightly do not respect
Why on Earth would you wanted to be respected by 'normal people'? I don't want the least bit to do with them. If it keeps them away, then all the better.

>>13901094
>normal, well-adjusted white men
That's what I strive to be.

>>13901094
I never complained about being an incel. Please leave my thread.

>>13900936
Can't speak for OP but I personally keep them on my computer

>>13901094
>not showering then wondering why no one sits next to you on the bus.
is that the key to get a seat to yourself?

>>13901094
>First, because it doesn't belong here.

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>>13901168
This is not complicated, fellas. That you so adamantly defend and justify the sad incel weeb lives you live, instead of taking basic steps to better yourselves and become men who are capable of having relationships with the opposite sex, is something you all realize is a cope. A very simple step would be cutting out the little girl cartoons.

>>13901190
From my cold, dead hands.
>and become men who are capable of having relationships
I'm homosex.

>>13901190
My girlfriend likes anime too

>>13901196
Attachment to anime accompanies more general abnormalities, like faggotry in your specific case.

>>13901222
Women are submissive, so if a woman likes you, she will pretend to like whatever you like. Lower-status women will also attach themselves to subcultures to attract betta orbiters and find a potentially higher-status mate from the group. As she matures, she is less likely to respect you and stay with you unless you give up the cartoons.

>>13901239
>women
>maturing
Good one

>>13901239
Now you sound like an incel.

>>13901252
More like former incel who realized fucking sluts isn't that hard if you suppress your individuality and conform to a mode they will find attractive. Thus he prides himself on surpressing his personality to be "masculine" for the sake of pleasing women and believes he has found the truth, while still being the same inside.

>>13901266
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

>>13901266
You need to be attractive for them to find you attractive. You were never an incel. Being an incel is about being ugly and unnatractive. At the moment you manage to attract a female you deny all your past inceldom.

>>13901266
NOBODY WANTS YOUR LIFE STORY NIGGER JUST LEAVE MY THREAD IT WASNT AN INVITATION FOR YOU WANK YOURSELF OFF

>>13901266
I've never been an incel and have had women throwing themselves at me since I was 15. But I'm also assuredly older than everyone itt and have happily volceled for long periods to write books and become learned.

>>13901295
That wasn't me, and this is my thread now, dork.

The subject is getting out of the incel-anime trap, and why anime is harmful toward the normal development of the male mind.

>>13900742
>I'm asking if I could be fit into a different category.
Does it matter? Do you need to be in 'category'? Just do whatever, and don't worry so much about what anybody might think. I doubt most people would care much if you spend all of your time reading.

>>13901315
I'd rather get into some anime traps, if you know what I mean.

>>13901315
>normal development of the male mind.
Why would anyone want to follow normal development?

>>13901323
Walked right into it didn't I...

>/lit/ - Literature

>>13901327
Being into hyper-neotenized little girl cartoons in your 20s is a sign of an arrested mind, it's absolutely true and this is coming from a former week cumbrain

>>13901327
A man should because every man who came before him did, and that striving toward greatness is what allowed the greatest aspects of western civilization to come into existence.

But if you really want to die a virgin, watching porn and anime in some depressing and diverse apartment complex, living off neetbucks and never procreating, we're probably in many cases better off with your genes not continuing on.

>>13901344
Do you ever think that you might just be projecting your own problems onto things other people enjoy regardless or whether it's relevant.

>>13901351
>really want to die a virgin, watching porn and anime in some depressing and diverse apartment complex, living off neetbucks and never procreating
Yeah, you're defiantly projecting. If that isn't a page from a chapter of your life then I don't know what is.

Either that, or you're just assmad wagie. Either way, get fucked.

>>13901344
You're someone who is susceptible to propaganda and brainwashing. You wander your way in and out of states, and when you find a new way to "fix" your unhappiness, you follow the instructions you were taut and mindlessly taut your new way of life while disavowing the old one, assuming everyone superficially similar to your past self is as weak as you. You are not aware of this, but it will continue to happen and change throughout your life. You have never in your life made a choice to live out of your own will and merely wander wherever powers higher than you lead you.

>>13901363
you were taught*

>>13901344
You're just trying to provoke people. Have you watched any silent films? The girls are all super moe. Not cartoons, granted, but it's the same type of ideal, big eyes small chin etc. Been around for ages.

>>13901351
>we're probably in many cases better off with your genes not continuing on.

seems like a problem that will solve itself then. so i don't know why you care so much.

>>13901373
The Virgin Silent Film vs The Chad Talkie

>>13900742
Ask yourself this: What value do thoughts have? Is it for the individual, or for others? I lean towards “making things is better than consuming them”.

>>13901317
This. Use the categories if they are useful to you or entirely cast them aside if that is more of a benefit to you. Life is better when you realize that all humans don't know shit. Even the wisest among us are essentially retards in the face of attempting to understand the ineffable, in reality they have only managed to illuminate a slightly greater portion of an infinitesimally small fraction of the all truth. The human brain-mind is inherently incapable of obtaining the one objective reality and instead engages with a poor simulation of it that is filtered through our extremely limited sense-perceptions and further constrained by temporal-spatial restrictions. This is why generalization and categorization is even useful in the first place, as a means of attempting to order that which human beings are inherently incapable of ordering.

>>13901094
>First, because it doesn't belong here

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>>13901418
nah I mean more like is it fundamentally different if you're ugly and have no social life if you're getting /lit/ while living that life. Arguably I'm wasting my life, but if I put my time into getting /lit/ af, would it then not be a waste, even if I'm still ugly and will never get near a vagina? Or maybe it's a cope.

>>13901360
Or you fit the category mentioned and are butthurt and coping. That's more likely.

>>13901377
It will fix itself eventually, but this incel-anime nihilism is an epidemic among lower status white men, and their potential services as a cohort will be useful if redirected.

Every generation has had a class of Lower-status males. But instead of wasting away watching anime and porn they were sent away and user to conquer lower races and breed with their women. We need to get back to that.

>>13901456
Well anon, not being you and not having had the same life-experiences or really knowing anything about you, I can't say at all what is the best way to conduct your life or spend your time.

If you're enjoying literature and presumably other pursuits, then it's hardly time being 'wasted'. So, just carry on I guess.

>>13901508
>conquer lower races and breed with their women. We need to get back to that.
Yeah okay bud. You wouldn't last five minutes in open combat and you know it. Don't act so superior with your pathetic fantasies.

>>13901430
This is a literature board, a place that celebrates the western high-art tradition. Anime is the product of an alien culture, and is an extremely low art form. The two are polar opposites.

>>13901555
>This is a literature board
on an anime website
>a place that celebrates the western high-art tradition
show me which rule states that.

>>13901541
An assumption, and a false one. However, the aristocrats are the ones who direct the neets so it isn't ultimately necessary.

>>13901562
You don't need rules if you have society.

By the way I sort of allow it, but don't abuse.

>>13901572
allow what?

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>>13901562
This stopped being an anime website long ago.

>>13901555
you seem to like literature as an aesthetic, rather than for itself.

>>13901570
And you think that you would be one of the aristocrats?

>>13901597
If we just base on aesthetics anime is superior to literature though

>>13901596
is that why it went downhill?

>>13901555
holy shit nobody cares

>>13901597
I was raised on literature by a literary family, hence why I take offense to illiterate neets and weebs shitting this board up with anime and coming here thinking they're going to become cultured through osmosis.

>>13901600
Not about what I think.

>>13901570
Yes, of course you'd expect to find the aristocrats on 4chan arguing about anime girls.

>>13901617
Liking anime and reading literature aren't mutually exclusive.
>why I take offense
Boo hoo, go cry to mommy, baby. Maybe she'll read you a bedtime story.

>>13901266
>Thus he prides himself on surpressing his personality

imagine being this of a cuck lmao, i´ve also fucked bitches but i didn´t supress who i am even tho i´m a weirdo shut in, if you make them laugh they don´t even care if you´re an antisocial person, worked for me

>>13901617
I was raised on anime by an anime family and I take offense to you too.

>>13901617
>I take offense
Jesus christ just please kill yourself you absolute moron.

>>13901620
Not arguing about; advocating for the cleansing of.

>>13901626
>Liking anime and reading literature aren't mutually exclusive
No one who is serious about literature is into anime. The distinction is like that between Bach and the Backstreet Boys.

>>13901650
>No one who is serious about literature is into anime.
Says who, you?

>>13901650
>he doesn't like both Bach and the Backstreet Boys
Plebeian

>>13901650
>Bach and the Backstreet Boys
This could be a band name.

>>13901628
Yikes.

>>13901636
How about you not post or talk about anime on a literature forum. You stay out of this space, and you won't have people like me telling you to leave.

>>13901655
Yeah, me, you incel faggot.

>>13901650
>No one who is serious about literature is into anime. The distinction is like that between Bach and the Backstreet Boys.

I've been reading since I was 13, I read only philosophy now mainly, but I still watch anime, if only to unwind with a blunt. You're right though, anime might be in conversation with some big ideas, but it doesn't touch real art forms

Except for End of Evangelion, which is an utter masterpiece

>>13901671
You need to start watching more cultured anime. Also the last few episodes of Evangelion were better and more /lit/ than the movie prove me wrong (you can't)

>>13901666
>and you won't have people like me telling you to leave.
You can tell all you like, it's not going to happen.
>>13901670
Lame and anti-climatic.

>>13901675
People shit on Episode 26 but I like it. Maybe even more than the film.

Anime adheres to the ideals and aesthetics of western culture more than the modern day west.

>>13901666
This is an anime website, retard.

>>13901675
I don't watch moeshit or Sword Art Online-type trash, I hope I didn't give you that impression.

Bebop, Berserk, Evangelion, Ghost in the Shell, Psycho-Pass, Attack on Titan, Blame!, Mob Psycho, a few others I'm sure I'm forgetting, are all brilliant shows with a minimum of cringy fan-service (except for maybe Eva)

If you know any other shows I'm all ears (besides obvious stuff like Vagabond, Vinland Saga, etc.)

I think manga is a legitimate art form when its mature (and not xXxMaturexXx), but anime is absolutely infested with moeshit

>>13901677
You will leave because you don't read literature. You are here posting anime because you are a loser and believe reading the opinions of people like me will make you smarter.

>>13901687
>Anime adheres to the ideals and aesthetics of western culture more than the modern day west.
Interesting take. Care to elaborate?

>>13901675
Both the film and TV ending are beyond kino. There's an EoE cut on nyaa.si that incorporates Episodes 25/26 into the film proper, so it's like 2+ hours of introspective apocalyptica, it's great. Really the best animated film to come out of the country

>>13901685
A man of culture
>>13901694
Utena, Haibane Renmei come to mind for starters. Try going for some less action focused shows.

>>13901696
>You will leave
Make me.

>>13901702
Also, LoGH I should get into. I've heard great things about Utena. Good things about Ergo Proxy. Lain was ite. Renmei still holds up, huh?

>>13901703
I don't have to. You are a low IQ anime-incel grifter who has no interest in the subject matter of this board. You will leave eventually, I'm just facilitating this inevitable result.

>>13901699
It upholds values of purity, loyalty, traditional gender roles which western media has been trying to discard, for one

>>13901715
>You will leave eventually, I'm just facilitating this inevitable result.
Maybe I enjoy your company too much.

>>13901705
>Renmei still holds up, huh?

I think that it gets better with every watch.

>>13901196
you’re cringe made flesh

>>13901717
Aesthetics though? And most anime is hardly ''pure''.

>>13901717
Whites have a rich tradition and history of high arts. That our culture is occupied and corrupted now does not justify turning to an alien culture for meaning.

>>13901726
It's not that anime is pure but the idea that purity is a virtue is implicit. Anime aesthetics are mostly inspired from the west during the first half of the 20th century or before, it's hardly a pure Japanese invention.

>>13901731
Sorry anon whites have ruined themselves and they will probably never come back.

>>13901739
That's a silly and nonsensical conclusion to come to given how recent the foreign occupation of our culture is and how long the arch of history is.

>>13901744
The arch of human history isn't very long to begin with.

>>13901717
The only property accomplishing this in any capacity today is SnK. I'm open to getting proved wrong but you're gonna have a hell of time finding another anime of its quality with 0 (fuckin' ZERO) fan-service

>>13901733
Are you legit saying Disney's works are the most emblematic of western aesthetics? Kill yourself, you're just a weeb like the rest of us.

>>13901754
Please stop the weeb-on-weeb violence.

>>13901754
No, it's you who said that.

>>13901745
Of course it is. Nature is a perpetual struggle for power and resources. Changes and adaptations take decades and even centuries to manifest.

>>13901761
>Nature is a perpetual struggle for power and resources.

this meme again. oh no no no no

>>13901759
What else would you say anime aesthetics was inspired by?

>>13901761
>decades and centuries
>long

>>13901763
Real life.

>>13901763
Forced contact with West since 1800s, exposure US occupation post WWII. Even if we use Disney as an example, Disney before Walt's death was still closer to western values than the current west is. I'm not really arguing anime is a paragon of western values, just that we have fallen so low that Japan is doing better than us with dregs it got through osmosis.

>>13901774
>Forced contact with West since 1800s, exposure US occupation post WWII.
No, those were only the conditions would make the japs bother in the first place. I'm asking about particular styles, movements, works of art etc. Since it seems to have largely been lost in the west but still lives on through these chinese cartoons it must be something extraordinary.

>>13901762
Meme? Do you think nature functions any other way?