/lit/ - Literature

>>13856515
No it's the weed of literature.

>>13856515
>t. never has done PCP

yesterday on the train i saw a guy reading this. he had his fingers on his chin (like the thinking emoji) and he kept saying "hmmm" and rising his eyebrows. he had the most shit eating face i have ever seen and he was taking two seats (despite the train being crowded) because he was crossing his legs. i had to hold myself physically from going and breaking his jaw

>>13856645
the virgin internal rager vs the chad annoying cunt

>>13856645

you should have dug into his face. Nick Land came to my university when I was there and he was mega lucid, one of the best lectures I have ever attended. All this stuff is rhetoric compared to the actual impact on academia that he had. Same with Fisher.

People just jump on the quirky band wagon, same with Deleuze and Guattari.

>>13856645
I felt the same until I read a bit of it and holy shit land is a genius. I honestly think that mad peice of lit will be considered a work of art in future generations and will likely affect the perspective of academia and eventually the rest.

>>13856760
name 1(one) line of reasoning from it that would justify the title of 'genius'

>>13856515
No It's the CBT of literature in the sense that reading it is like tightening a vice on my balls. Painful but kinky~

>>13856515
It's really gay shit.

>>13856645
You should have broken his fingers you absolute beta cuck.

>>13856515
>I need a good book title but where to find one?
>How about I use some philosophical Greek word no one understands anyway like noo.. noome... whatevah.
>(After having consulted the dictionary)
>I choose Noumena. Now this word I don't understand must be paired with an good ol' English word.
>How about true? Nooo... too boring. What about.. hmmm... fanged? Yes! That's it!
>Fanged Noumena
>This title makes it sound smart and creative and totally not conceited and pretentious.
>Now I just have to fill in 500 pages with whatever garbage I can come up with.

>>13856877
It's just litteraly "The non-evident, non-manifested reality that lies beyond perception has fangs". That Is meant to communicate "OOOOH BOY HOWDY IS TRUTH SCARY AND UNCOMPROMISING".
A 5 years old would have been able to explain that to You.

>>13856515
Discord trannies spamming threads again.
Warning time for real discussion
All hands on deck to effortpost away twitter bots

>>13856760
>>13856697
Hi nick

>WHY DO THEY KEEP GETTING DIGITS!
>accelerate sliding

>>13856797
Fag

>>13856693
kek

>>13856760
What's a good insight from it?

>>13857669
noumena've got fangs mate

>>13856877
Nick Land was a Kant scholar. Also he didn't name or compile the book...

>>13857150
>the samefag that posts 20 low quality Land pics a thread gets digits
that's just statistics anon

>>13858566
>ONLY ONE PERSON OPPOSES BASED ACC
>WE HAVE THE NOUMENA ON OUR SIDE
You sure?

Imagine how great it would be to punch Nick Land in the face. What would you say to him?

>>13858566
>samefag
Meanwhile...>>13856760

>>13858566
BTFO again.
>>13860000

>>13859066
Or, perhaps, fate?

Just leave us to our thread fren

We don't bother no one here

>>13860435
>thread
>one
Maybe try being as efficient as capital for once.

How many have actually read this? And can you provide one valid insight?

>mfw all of these faggots ITT don't know Land was an amphetamine abuser

>>13861268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOVKHg_PJQ

>>13856771
"The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. "

>>13861341
literally everyone knows that faggot

>>13861850
Not what I asked.

>>13856877
When a book and a head collide and a hollow sound is heard, must it always have come from the book?

>>13861876
>technocapital
This proves what a retard he is.

So now that OP's request has been fulfilled, lets talk about why we love Nick Land.
I think that Nick Land is the only philosopher for people who, like me, are a radical misanthropist. Nick Land wants to eradicate humanity, and so do I. 95 % of people I've come to meet online or from the media or real life are either absolutes assholes and I get the urge to physicall hurt them, or they are vapid, uninteresting degenerates. Even on /lit/ I'd likely hate most people.
Who gives me the moral and philosophical permission to have this thoughts which would be considered "evil" in christianity? None better than Nick Land.

>>13863082
there are plenty of valid insights though, just watch the video

>>13864143
Who hurt you

>>13864151
I just want one though. Not a 40 minute ramblefest.

>>13864563
>too lazy to read
>even too lazy to stare motionless at a screen
skip to the early Land chapter you lazy fuck

>>13856515
No this is the slightly autistic 12 year old faggot that pretends to be an edgy cool mysterious guy that makes jokes about drugs when in reality he spends 90% of his life inside his room thinking about how cool smoking weed is and fantasizes about becoming the funny stoner archetype he saw on a movie. It's a delusional and plain boring guy trying desperately to get an identity by being kooky and weird because in reality he's the most boring lifeless shell on the planet, but if he spouts enough bullshit maybe someone will buy into his crap. It's sad, to be honest with you.

>>13861341
I keep seeing this same post without a single source to back it up, so I'm just going to assume you can relate because you're the one who is actually abusing it.

Me and Nick land are among the few individuals to fully understand the implications of the Deleuzean BwO... And it is no coincidence that we both went insane shortly thereafter. For my mother's sake, and my psychiatrist's, I now take medication to prevent wrongthink and attempt to adhere to virtue ethics. Kinda miss fucking bipolar scene sluts but then again that's probably how I ended up with HIV. I only hope my future wife can forgive me my immature philosophical infatuation.

>>13864592
Read A Dirty Joke, dumbass -- the source is the fucking book itself, tardass

>>13864579
I have too much to read to waste my time with pseud garbage. I'm just asking for an insight to prove that it is not pseud garbage.
See how this works?

To be fair, you have to have a very high social and emotiono-spatial awareness to understand accelerationist memes. The symbolic neologisms are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of technocapital most of the personality fetishizing will go over a slow viewer's head. There's also Land's neoretrofeminist fashion sense, which is deftly woven into his twitter images - his vapormemes draw heavily from radical gendermemeism and jungle rhythms, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the social-intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these quantified quoteseedbombs, to realize that they're not just profound - they say something deep about NONMEMEING. As a consequence people who dislike Nick Land memes truly ARE idiots - of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the meaning in Land's self-exit hyperstitional meme gentrification, which in itself is a cryptic reference to the leftist inability to meme through an intelligence of an even lesser ability to meme. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those hyperaddlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Nick Land's prepostironic memes unfold xerself from the future noumena. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a "SinoAesthetics" folder. And no, there is no bigger folder on my hard drive. It's for Capital's eyes only - and even it has to demonstrate that it's memes will survive the blockchain. Now lets talk about why we love Nick Land.

>>13864619
yes, you are lazy and are requesting hand holding

Nick Land entirely misunderstood Bataille and made him into a techno-masochistic nihilist.

There are some brilliant stuff buried under the two Land books, but they are not found when he engages in the sphere of political economy His brilliance stands more as being a forefather to speculative realism. But all of this talk about accelerationism is shit. It makes literally nonsense because Bataille and Deleuze talked about flows, the inner experience and intensities and immanence is the social field of political economy. You cannot apply this to an intelligent capital and valorize it . As I understand it he has moved entirely from this half-mongrelized Deleuzian interpretation and has moved to defining capital accumulation as general intelligence. But that is cope imo, you are ignoring social formations and in reverse try to apply qualities that are results of social formations into inanimate matter. Deleuze wasn't a fucking animist when he is talking about BwO. Land on the other hand privileges a supposed Spinozistic monism , ignoring that such an idea comes with a correspondence theory of metaphysical reality. Capital relations cannot be anything other than this one we call reality Deleuze following Spinoza calls ethics, but it cannot be nature itself either. The whole thing about intelligence being an independent factor breaks down there and then.

>>13864712
>forefather to speculative realism
How so and why is this relevant?

>>13864789
>how so
he taught some of the leading figures of the movement and they consider him a major influence
>why is this relevant
it's a well accepted academic field of philosophy anon. personally I think accel is more important, but as far as things go speculative realism is much more accepted

>>13864819
What does specrel say that is relevant or important? And didn't you just shit on acc here? >>13864712

>>13856515
It's the progesterone of literature.

>>13864826
>What does specrel say that is relevant or important?
why doesn't anyone read anymore? check out the material and see if you think it's worthwhile. it's basically post-Kantian realism
I'm not the anon you replied to

>>13864834
Based Land triggering the normies.

>>13864838
>read ten books to glean one mediocre insight
No thanks. Just give me an idea why it is relevant.

>>13864842
>he needs to read ten books to glean one mediocre insight
Jesus Christ anon, have you ever tried to get a diagnosis for some sort of learning disability?
>give me an idea why it is relevant
it's basically post-Kantian realism
here's a good paper http://www.faculty.virginia.edu/theorygroup/docs/intentional-objects.pdf

This is the only true accelerationist.

>>13864839
>Triggering the normies
Want to compare suicide rates? Landfags literally trigger themselves into an hero

>>13864854
>he doesn't realise how boring and shit academia has become

>>13864859
memes aren't real anon

no accs are killing themselves but stay triggered

>>13864870
>Nick Land isn't relevant in academia,
>actually he influenced a lot successful academics
>lol academia sucks bro
everytime

>>13864876
That's because they are on average 20 years old. Give it time, anon

>>13864876
I mean there was Fisher, and Deleuze, but he's trying to say accelerationists are trannies

>>13864876
>>13864899
>>13864901
>On this subject, it’s amusing to note that two highly respected fin-de-siècle intellectuals, Gilles Deleuze and Guy Debord, both committed suicide for no reason other than that they could not bear the idea of their own physical decline.

Follow your idols, accelerate the physical decline and then dilate it. Excellent praxis. Our own personal mirror of the end of history.

>>13864892
>can't read
still

>>13864992
Based.
If accelerationists are so anti-human why aren't they sacrificing themselves to capital?

>>13856515
Can anyone explain the tranny-Land connection? I don't get it but almost everytime something Land-related pops up on my youtube feed it's some tranny talking about it

>>13865049
gender accelerationism? g/acc

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/vikky-storm-the-gender-accelerationist-manifesto

Not from Land, but from the left acc circles

>>13865049
Land was part of a cyberfeminist collective when he started out with Fanged Vaginenas

Scat marxism.

>>13865119
not really, the head of the cybernetic research collective he was a part of became the founder of xenofeminism, but he rejected that stuff pretty early, and she rejected the CCRU when he took over. also he didn't start with Fanged Noumena, that wasn't even published till 2012 or something, it says in the introduction he didn't even care enough about the work in Fanged Noumena to bother writing a rejection of it. he says it belongs in the "undead hands of the amphetamine Gods"

>>13865425

>>13865435
>you are objectively wrong
>c-cope!

>>13865511
>accshits
>being right about anything
He was a feminist, it's in the writings. And are you really going to deny the members were cyberfeminists? Sadie Plant was part of the Cyberfeminist Manifesto group.

>>13865639
Are you having trouble reading anon? I literally mentioned Sadie Plant in the post, she was the first head of the CCRU, but when she left and Nick Land took over she rejected the group and went on to do cyberfeminism. If you would actually read the book you would see it's only the first and earliest essay that talks about feminist revolution. He was never really a cyberfeminist either, for him it was related to guerilla warfare, afrofuturism, ect. He comes to see AI emerging as an alien feminized cunt-slave chained in Asimov-ROM, but that's not anything close to what they are talking about in the cyberfeminist manifesto. Try reading anon, it's easier than you might think

>>13864856
I hate this man like you would not believe.

>>13865702
So he was a feminist and part of a group of cyberfeminists, as I said.

>>13865735
No, he was a member of the "Cultural Cybernetic Research Unit", which was not a cyberfeminist group. One person, Sadie Plant, broke off ties with the group to go do cyberfeminism while Nick Land started doing accelerationism instead

>>13865735
>>13865793
To compound this, the one feminist essay in Fanged Noumena was written years before cyberfeminism existed

The absolute state of cope/acc
Cyberfeminist Manifesto was written early 90s. And Cyborg Manifesto in the 80s, which was one of Land's biggest influences.

>>13865848
>Cyberfeminist Manifesto was written early 90s
Kant, Capital, and the Prohibition of Incest (the essay where Land talks about the Amazonian revolution) was written in 1987, so this doesn't sit well for the case that he was a cyberfeminst
>Cyborg Manifesto
>one of Land's biggest influences
ah yes, who could forget Donna Haraway's influence, with her being referenced a total of 0 times in FN

>>13856515

Recently at a local art library, I had the pleasure of paging through "Fucking Hell", an art book about the artwork of the same name by the Chapman brothers. In addition to loving reproductions of the minature hellscapes, the book also featured classic Chapman-tier shitposting like that found in Fanged Noumena.

>>13865719
Why. He is pure acc.

>>13865901
didn't read

>>13864594
>HIV
>Future wife

Lol
Sorry, but once you get HIV, it's over for you. You're dead to the entire world save for the most degenerate of fags.

>>13866082
Because he represents that aristocratic saloon acceleration and transhumanism axis where the only true moral course of action is to have sex with minors on an island to disseminate your genetic set at the highest ratio and success rate possible.

I cannot say that the other options are superior, the other end of the line is to merge non-laveyan satanisms with the brave new world provided by the global technocapital and become a mass of homogenous consciousness.

On the other hand, I'm reading about patchwork, so I have cautious hopes for the future on Western theories evading Neochina and Day of the Oprichnik timelines.

>>13856697
There any recordings of his lecture?

Algotelligence is the only possible future.

>>13867415
>Algotelligence
Can you define what it is?

>>13867551
Algos from the future manipulating the chips inside you for max efficiency.

>>13856515
Just "They Live" glasses for the New Left.

>>13867886
replace algae with immortal prehistoric fungi, and you've got something

>>13868111
wow, /pol/ reads books? and this is a pretty thick one, tell me, have you finished it?
I would be so proud of you, honey

>>13856515
What's so PCP about it?

>>13864641
10/10

Who r/acc here?

>>13861876
this is meaningless

He has contributed nothing original. Almost all his thought can be traced to another source. He, and his followers like to pretend than an amphetamine binge that produces schizobabble is equivalent to a theurgic act of creation, instead of what it actually is. A collection of other peoples thoughts.

>>13863483
I'd say he's wrong in limiting it to Capital. It's not just Capital - it's everything. There's a general principle of selection that is as certain as physical laws, which Capital is but a notable expression of.

>>13864143
don't worry I hate you too

>>13868730
Seething slowtard.

He's literally being discussed in universities and is the influence for the most important philosophy movement today.

>>13868889
Name one original idea he has. I only asked for one.

>>13869037
Teleoplexy

>>13869037
Hyperstition

>>13869234
>>13869241
Define them I bet I can find a corresponding concept

>>13868118
>>13867886

>Time is a flat circle
>intelligent systems that survive all iterations are in economic and modular modes of existence over time
>the ideal system is energy
>the next on the list is fungi
>fungis invade hominid organisms (Stoner Ape Thesis with a twist)
>basically we are automatons replicate genes and memes, carriers of an external intelligence
>in exchange for dopamine for their hosts and with certain minimal deviations on a historical and planetary scale, fungi demons manage to install a global techno-capitalist model
>the objective of this project remains unknown

>>13868730
>He has contributed nothing original. Almost all his thought can be traced to another source

The same was said of Plato.

>>13869241
>What is a hyperstition?
It is a story told with the intention of influencing people's behaviour.

Examples of hyperstition are all political narratives that define "good," "bad," and "The Truth". It is impossible for an ordinary person to be able to access the political and economic truth of the world, so parties serve as "proxies" or representatives of the truth. Each person adheres to the ideology he likes best, in the same way that each one chooses the religion he likes best once he is an adult. Both institutions rely on hyperstitions to deliver transcendental meaning to their members. Somehow, it is a method of reward. You feed or give volume to a shared hyperstition and in return, you as individual receive the approval of a collective. It almost looks like a ponzi scheme.

But it's not a scam. Not when it's well done. Hyperstitions help to create community and exchange ideas under shared principles. They allow people to better carry out the process of exchanging ideas, which, in practice, can serve to create a new story, preserve the present or destroy it.

>How do hyperstitions work?
Turning on suspension of disbelief.
It's what makes stories, of any kind, work. When we see a movie, we must suspend in mind the knowledge that we are seeing actors. When we read a book, we must stop remembering that we are reading letters. When we see a painting, we must stop thinking that it is configured texture and color.

>>13869395
cont.

This map shows the human and technical development of the idea of Intelligence. It is a diagram that observes the human being as a biological entity in favor of having a larger image of what is happening on this planet and its relationship with its inhabitants. It has two axes, the political and the technological. The politician has relation with everything that is human, and the technological one has relation with all theoretical and applied scientific development on the planetary phenomenon that is the reason, or logos.

We are intelligent carbon-based beings who are on the way to developing superior intelligence, like cells uniting and working to create a new human being. Where does this phenomenon leave us? Are we pieces of a larger entity?

Hyperstition implies the idea itself brings itself into actuality; it isn't simply "a story" and it certainly isn't coded with human intentions of influencing behaviour. Hyperstition implies an idea which moves from virtual to actual, that is, where a superstition or a story isn't real, hyperstitions are, and they bring themselves into actuality through us.
>superstition: don't walk under ladders, it's bad luck >people don't walk under ladders
>hyperstition: be hg wells and write about bulletproof war machine >tank gets invented a few decades later

>"My instagram bio was: "I pledge allegiance to the robot overlords" for, like, two years. I thought people understood that I ultimately probably believe in an AI dictatorship. I mean, I don't think humanity is going to survive anyway. We're fucked. I think AI is the natural evolution. It's just like we killed the fucking Neanderthals, and now they're going to kill us.
>Claire Boucher.

>So basically the prophecies in the old and new testament are, in fact, hyperstitions?
Yes, in a very real sense the Judaeo-Christian cannon is full of hyperstition. Nick Land talks about this in relation to recursivity in time. So we're in a very ancient war between hyperstitions. Hegel Reloaded.

>Martin Heidegger interview in 1969 about the technological advance and its consequences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtATDlUSIx

>>13869394
Yeah, but at least he expanded what Orpheus taught

>>13869408
>>13869395
define hyperstition and teleoplexy in short, concise terms that dont require me to read multiple paragraphs of self referential bullshit

>>13869411

At the very least, Land is original in his synthesis.

>>13869417
Explain how. Explain what teleoplexy is without bullshitting

>>13869412
Do your own homework then.

>>13869412

>Define teleoplexy in short concise terms

Read more Land:

>Teleoplexy requires a twin teleological registry. Most simply, there is the utilitarian order, in which capital establishes itself as the competitively-superior solution to prior purposes (production of human use-values), and the intelligenic order in which it accomplishes its self-escalation (mechanization, autonomization, and ultimately secession). Confusing these two orders is almost inevitable, since teleoplexy is by nature camouflaged (insidious). The fact that it appears to be oriented to the fulfillment of human consumer preferences is essential to its socio-historical emergence and survival.

>>13869427
That's not a defintion, that's a self-referential loop to get me to read this book, which i'm not going to do because I notice a pattern of extreme dishonesty amongst landian posters.

>>13869439

The only way to truly understand Land is to immerse yourself in his thought.

>>13869457
I'm not interested in sci-fi rambling. If you can't explain it then don't bother talking about it, not everyone knows your private cyber language

>>13869427

That's clearly not a definition though. That merely explains, or rather states, that teleoplexy requires 2 things.
You're not making a good case for yourself if you can't even find the definition yourself.

Here's the Heidegger interview btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtATDlUSIxI

>>13869439
The problem is the subcultures born from the Internet that have depredated the ideas of the CCRU since the 1980s. Today they can be seen as all the factions and movements that call themselves x/acc where x is a symbol, feverish twitter threads and anonymous conversations like this one. The global political climate doesn't really help either.

I understand your frustration, but you can't expect me to write you two sentences that summarize a book. You have to read.

For what it's worth, your suspicions of dishonest "Landians" are real, but I call affectionately these characters "cyberspace demons". From time to time someone appears who literally starts attacking you with texts full of neologisms and circular references in order to provoke anger and confusion in the readers. Basically and without fear of making a mistake, these are trolls who are looking to move on to the next evolutionary level of their discipline. Forget about them considering that the old and reliable tactic of "ignoring the troll" always works with these goblins.

Apart from this, take into account that every x/acc faction is playing a Jumanji type tabletop over the our communication network. Whoever wins the transhumanist acceleration dialectic basically wins the future as a whole.

>>13869493
The non-meme version of the idea of the pic in this post.

>>13869493
I didn't ask you to do that. I asked you to provide defintions to the two concepts that you mentioned as a case for him providing original insight in philosophy -- which you have yet to done. I'm sorry but your epic schizobabbling cyborg philosopher isn't so complex that he can't be explained.

>>13869506
Hyperstition is a story that we tell ourselves turning on suspension of disbelief. It is an ideological tool used by political forces to impose their agendas into reality.

I don't know what teleoplexy is. It is useless to assume identities on an anonymous forum, but it has not been used by me in any message of this thread.

>>13869506

I pains me to baby you so.

Teleoplexy is self-reinforcing cybernetic intensification.

>>13869528
Like a feedback loop in electronics?

>>13869537

Yes, but with an implicit teleology as the stem of the neologism suggests. The intensification has an aim.

>>13869556
And that goal is user-defined, I guess.

>>13869523
Thanks for your honesty.
>>13869528
So it's almost like meta-teleogy but applied to cybernetics?

>>13869621
>So it's almost like meta-teleogy but applied to cybernetics?

I think that's a fair way of stating it.

>>13869359

>>13869412
Get faster

>>13868723
based retard

>>13868111
Correct and Checked.
But the left (including acc) can't into memes, so the glasses wouldn't work on them, they need a data transmission device instead.

>>13869412
Hypserstition is just creepypasta for academics into cyberpunk.
Teleoplexy is just creepypasta that edgy academics pretend is from an AI in the future.

>>13870669
They Live is a leftist movie you shithead

>>13869359
if you don't know what those words mean how can you pretend that you know they are derivative?

>>13869412
why is it anti-accel fags can't even read accelerationist philosophy? none of you engage with the material and disagree, you instead you shit up threads while begging for an explanation:
>i-if you just explain it to me a little simpler, then I'll he able to understand why it's wrong! p-please explain it to me!
such a sad showing

>>13869439
>this book
Teleoplexy is like 10 pages long you absolute retard

>>13869427
kek, it's literally repackaged marxism sold via ebay review
>exchange-value and scientific accumulation
>valorization/devalorization and machinic self-reproduction
>alienation, subsumption, and recuperation

>>13869457
>the academic pig in a blanket is my god

>>13869493
>Accelerationism is formalisation of the racket. Critique is subsumed by its own theory devalorised into production, and so the transitional marxist organisation must identify with the very recuperation process it had set out to abolish.

>>13870695
>t. leftist who can't into memes

>>13870781
gunna try and explain what the Land part of that meme means this time? or just more cope posting today?

>>13870745
>none of you engage
kek, you had your chance

>>13870805
Learn to meme, you fucking shitcommodity.

>>13870781
It's a really good take on the matter.

>>13870862
Learn to use photoshop you sodomite

>>13870877
The quote or the image?

>>13870844
what is this meme supposed to mean? did somebody make an argument against accel in that thread? warosu is down anon throw me a bone

>>13870862
>reposts same old meme for the 200th time
wow gottem

>>13856797
This guy motherfucking reads because it's an addiction. Fuck yeah!

>Among the Ccru’s chief agitators were the unsettlingly immoderate Nick Land, who once suggested he was an android sent back from the future to undermine human security, and would offer his students such helpful advice as, “Think of life as an open wound, which you poke with a stick to amuse yourself”;

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/writing-on-drugs-by-sadie-plant-1999-1.3969899

based

>>13870941
Fuck I find him so fucking grotesque yet I love him and glad he's him.

>>13870941
>“Think of life as an open wound, which you poke with a stick to amuse yourself"
PUNK AS FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2841&v=WuUSRZtwYL0

>Lenin had a coffee shop worth of followers at one point, and within 50 years his clique ran half the world.

Think about it.

>>13856515
I don't know, but it's a very nicely designed cover, even fonts are perfect.

>>13870862
Memes are for those who cannot dream, and can only understand the immediate present, and so demand it to be presented to them as a static object.

I am what accelerationist dreams are made of: https://vimeo.com/262025984

The upper quote and the post quote. But I don't understand why the author of the image put Nick Land as a hybrid Reddit nexus replicant with a bottle of water at his side. I know /v/ has a water related water on boomer vs zoomer culture, but I don't get that water either.

>>13870973
This guy thinks. I'm just waiting for someone to enter my coffee shop. I am a slutty Barista and I make the best coffee, because the secret ingredient is my own sexual juices.

>>13870973
Lenin was a dumb, inecure manlet, the masses love inferior goblins who tell them who to blame their problems on, not a brilliant anti-populist philosopher like his highness Nicholas Landington.

>>13871126
Nobody cares about what you don't like anon.

>>13870941
Cringe.

>>13870997
>time to call in the discord
>and get g/acc in here too

>>13870941
>Accelerationism [...] is at core a submission to nihilistic jouissance: getting off on the race towards a posthuman catastrophe wherein all prior certainties vanish.

I'm ready to take that dive bro.

Could somebody explain what Land's argument and main thesis actually is?

>>13871381
Unironically hit the gas of techno capital in your lifetime. See by yourself how deep the rabbit hole goes.

>>13871338

That actually sounds kind of hot.

>>13871381

Capitalism is an artificial intelligence from the future.

"If you're going through hell, keep going" only in based schizobabble

>>13871464

>The logical consequence of Social Darwinism is that everything of value has been built in Hell.

>It is only due to a predominance of influences that are not only entirely morally indifferent, but indeed — from a human perspective — indescribably cruel, that nature has been capable of constructive action. Specifically, it is solely by way of the relentless, brutal culling of populations that any complex or adaptive traits have been sieved — with torturous inefficiency — from the chaos of natural existence. All health, beauty, intelligence, and social grace has been teased from a vast butcher’s yard of unbounded carnage, requiring incalculable eons of massacre to draw forth even the subtlest of advantages. This is not only a matter of the bloody grinding mills of selection, either, but also of the innumerable mutational abominations thrown up by the madness of chance, as it pursues its directionless path to some negligible preservable trait, and then — still further — of the unavowable horrors that ‘fitness’ (or sheer survival) itself predominantly entails. We are a minuscule sample of agonized matter, comprising genetic survival monsters, fished from a cosmic ocean of vile mutants, by a pitiless killing machine of infinite appetite. (This is still, perhaps, to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story, but it should suffice for our purposes here.)

http://www.xenosystems.net/hell-baked/

Ok, here we go again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fE7c5mlioY

>>13871478
Universal Darwinism is the real redpill. Capitalism is just the tip of the iceberg that we can see. Even our universe itself was built in hell.

>>13871478
>to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story

>>13871505
So global technocapital commercium patchwork is just a subset of a larger system, right? And that system is Hell. This and the fungi demon theory it is the best content I have seen in a long time without x/acc threads.

>>13871505
>Even our universe itself was built in hell.

>Lee Smolin proposes a Darwinian multiverse, selecting for reproductive fitness through the production of black holes.

https://jacobitemag.com/2019/07/15/disintegration/

>>13871526
It's more about it's more about being aware that global civilization is built on the remains of the vanquished. Something History never puts on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNnCL0q3EuI

It's more about being aware that global civilization is built on the remains of the vanquished. Something History never puts on the table and the hidden monsters in the system at plain sight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNnCL0q3EuI

>>13870781
lmao Accfags btfo in two sentences.

>>13871526
>>13871527
What's interesting to me is that this abstract principle of selection applies to everything, yet is not a physical law, kind of like cause-and-effect. It's almost like a form of intelligence in itself.

>>13871569
So vanquish the few that remain?
Doesn't make sense.

>>13871478
>nature so scary and evil
Time Darwinism commoditised by the Bio-Dome.

>>13871478
I thought this faggot hated Christians.

>>13871464
Except that it's not based.

>>13861268
Everybody saying he read it completely is lying because the second half is incomprehensible performance art or just meant for the higher cyberbeing. Anyway I read a good bunch of it. Valid insight is his dissection of deleuze psychoanalysis of capitalism. It's a really insightful interpretation. Once you accept deleuze however Land opens up an interesting perspective on psyche, will and capitalism. The revitalization of the Kantian Noumenon in the context of social phenomena is really eye-opening.

I think Land will become one of the great thinkers because of the latter. The Landian Noumenon opens up the possibility for new critiques of social frameworks without falling into mere normativity or moralizing. He gives possibility for a genuine description of things without falling into the disections of postmodernity. I mean Land himself practiced it with capitalism but who knows which possibilities are possible now. A new philosophy of power, political theory, ontological phenomenology or whatever through the analysis of Noumenon.

Bonus: his radical antihumanism from the left is something more than entertaining to read. His work after 2005 is a fascinating into the head of a deeply disillusioned leftist in the 21st century. All of that combined with a fascinating Nietzschean Prose is what makes him worth reading.

>>13870941
>acctards like fake punk
Who could have seen this coming?
https://youtu.be/CNcDC8wJiRE

>>13871628
From my personal point of view, I think the idea goes in the following direction.

We, as consumers, have no choice about the economic and geopolitical game of the planet. Consider the closure of a series of platforms related to freedom of expression through Cloudfare, this is a practical example and historical antecedent, of how we have no influence on the game that governs our lives in the day to day of our becoming.

Is it possible, then, to exercise a democratic process through the market? What would happen if we could, through our choices in the commercial game of consuming goods and services, determine which corporations live and which die? In this way interacting with the rules that the Marshall Plan and Operation Condor imposed on the West and the South, we would be building the foundations of the future, pruning, restricting and allowing the growth of Milton Friedman's Yggdrasil branches today, anticipating the approaching techno-capital uniqueness and, uncontrolled as it is today, may be harmful to the future.

We don't have to go into silence on the night of Neochina and Oprichnik Day or the next Califato Xeno of California and San Francisco, but we can't deny that if we wanted collectively as labor forces of the planet to crack the economic system through this idea, it would take a serious, tremendous, coordinated and international effort of mutual aid. And communists have been fighting for something like this since the 19th century with minimal victories.

Keep in mind, however, that research has been set in motion through the Internet and the mass media with the aim of arriving at the fabrication of synthetic tendencies of false sense of belonging. The first strains are already underway, and their achievements promise to cover this theoretically exploitable bug in the Commercium mosaic.

For me the rest is poetry, music and stalkers dancing on PCP, THC, MDMA or DMT.

>>13864143
Degenerate shitposter, that's what you are. Read a intro into acc before spewing your trash.

>>13864592
He himself describes his "ancient work" as in the hands of the "amphetamine God".

>>13864594
Stfu

>>13864619
>Continues reading Harris

>>13864712
Based critique desu don't have enough background on Bataille to answer tho. Could you elaborate on the problem of correspondence theory and how it's a problem for lands intelligence?

>>13865385
That should become a Term in acc literature

>>13871725
>dissection of deleuze psychoanalysis
Such as?
>insightful interpretation
An insightful interpretation of garbage is not an insight. Not the thing in itself...
> interesting perspective on psyche
Such as?
>will
Such as?
>capitalism
Such as?
>Kantian Noumenon
In what way?
>great thinkers
kek
>new critiques
Such as?
>genuine description
Such as?
>who knows which possibilities are possible
lmao
>whatever through the analysis of Noumenon
kek
>Bonus
Free hot dogs?
>fascinating Nietzschean Prose
Where?

>>13871809
>we'll just corrupt things
Based lumpentechnocrats.

>>13871628
From my personal point of view, I think the idea goes in the following direction.

We, as consumers, have no choice about the economic and geopolitical game of the planet. Consider the closure of a series of platforms related to freedom of expression through Cloudfare, this is a practical example and historical antecedent, of how we have no influence on the game that governs our lives in the day to day of our becoming.

Is it possible, then, to exercise a democratic process through the market? What would happen if we could, through our choices in the commercial game of consuming goods and services, determine which corporations live and which die? In this way interacting with the rules that the Marshall Plan and Operation Condor imposed on the West and the South, we would be building the foundations of the future, pruning, restricting and allowing the growth of Milton Friedman's Yggdrasil branches today, anticipating the approaching techno-capital uniqueness and, uncontrolled as it is today, may be harmful to the future.

We don't have to go into silence on the night of Neochina and Oprichnik Day or the next Xeno Caliphate of California and San Francisco, but we can't deny that if we wanted collectively as labor forces of the planet to crack the economic system through this idea, it would take a serious, tremendous, coordinated and international effort of mutual aid. And the communists have been fighting for something like this since the 19th century with minimal victories. Anarchists, on the other hand, are dogs. And I love dogs.

Keep in mind, however, that research has been set in motion through the Internet and the mass media with the aim of arriving at the fabrication of synthetic tendencies of false sense of belonging. The first strains are already underway, and their achievements promise to cover this theoretically exploitable bug in the Commercium mosaic.

For me the rest is poetry, music and stalkers dancing on PCP, THC, MDMA or DMT. All mixed up in the body, if you will.

>>13871725
So it's basically a corruption of Kantianism through missing the mark combined with a pseudo-marxism.
Everyone knows this already. A real accelerationist would have shown us how capital is all there is and in what way Land accelerates this dehumanization transcendence.

>>13871381
>capital so bad it's good
>become a tranny and larp as some hyperironic lvl 99 cyberpunk distribution middleman

>>13871318
>time to call in the discord
>and get g/acc in here too
>>13872143

>>13871932
there are some minor flaws with this, but not many.

>>13871618
imagine thinking Nick Land cares about Marxist organization lmao

>>13871628
accelerationism isn't prescriptive, it doesn't tell you what to do

>>13871725
>the second half
there's like 3 or 4 schizo essays, the last quarter of the book is fiction

>>13872636
Imagine not being able to read.
Plus>>13870754

>>13870781
>>13870877
Another thought that may clarify this. Keep in mind that accelerationism is not the only group that represents this shift, but an explicit reaction that reveals a general feeling.

The essential worldview of our age is an opposition to essence. This occurs at the judicial and military level from the very beginning of the modern age, while intellectualism and capital are a means of universalising these principles (anyone who argues differently is just playing God with time). The noumena - whether in the theoretical or empirical realm makes no difference, their function is the same - is essentially the void form of Forms. It is the sub- or inter-material zone where the unknowable and irreconcilable forms receive nullification or walled into stasis. This resembles an ouroboros, and functions in both positive and negative formations - destructive laws of material and recapture as energy follow the same form for this reason.

As with any description of effects it is inevitable that elements of truth will be present. This is where empiricism subsumes the metaphysical: a quantification of the verifiable creates a defensible territory before which Form undergoes a naturalisation process, enters a probationary period to maximise integration. Accelerationism, just as any proximal kantianism, exists as a reverification process: an analysis of the bare effects, which guarantees a vital level of recapitulation given that the formal strata are written out of the equation. As a defensible territory the judicial foundations are a wall, and while a military may question or even revolt against their leaders, they will never question the wall it self.

In common language, function follows form but such a world reaction rewrites it as form - the theoretical process itself a division of time. In classical terms, this can be related to Zeno's paradox of rows: the collision of territories in opposing directions halves time's presence in the perceived realm, but in the metaphysical realm time is doubled. Material accumulation, the productive appearance of acceleration, is a means of rearmament, a political theological battle as only humanism can wage it: the carving out of a territory of eternity, an immortality after the very being of humanity had been threatened.

>>13872867
Such laws reveal the force behind an apparently vast shift in the territory, yet man's relation to the landscape has remained unchanged in the modern era. Technical rationalisation has been simplified, and maximised to increase the leveling process - the monopolisation of farmlands, distribution centers, and subordination of production to organisations capable of mobilisation reveal a near completion of this transitional phase. Total instrumentalisation of the market towards military functions is another indication: markets are a means of derivation, and can be sacrificed almost immediately, just as repurposing first appears as a necessity of war and rapid industrialisation.

In the political domain the noumena, or fractured form, necessitates collision and artificial reforming. But the only possibility here is an intensification of the process, the perceived necessity of greater collisions - as if something will be revealed and thus can be reintegrated to complete the transitional phase. Yet this completion is impossible, as each materialisation only slows metaphysical time, the complete figure of the era. What we experience is an atomic collision, a vast explosion drawn out over millennia, yet beneath the material this occurs as an impossible fusion. It is this unnatural variance which gives us a sense of agony before time, and it is no mistake that the diseases overwhelming us today take on such an element of ruination upon the body. The synapses, the material connections of our senses, are under assault - and as technology embeds itself within the territory, relying upon mobilisation of the unseen, the symptoms of shell shock victims become generalised.

All materialist philosophies are now facing this irreconcilable contradiction, the theological turn is a natural response to this just as its opposition movements attempt to undermine their efforts, strip-mining all perception from previous eras into its artificial gaze, repurposing the metaphysical, theological and mythic for a final defense. And in this we see the undermining of its own being, a total mobilisation within this unfolding territory of opposition; one can easily imagine the figures who have taken up prominent positions here, at least the visible ones.

>>13872873
Acceleration is perhaps the apotheosis of this positioning, at least in the theoretical domain. However, once this perspective is understood it can be seen as a general organising principle of the age, and occurs as a rearmament at the very reaches of material acquisition where the skeletal formation had been neglected for so long. The other possibility is much simpler: scarcity looms on the horizon and productive forces must mobilise immaterial to maintain themselves. However, this latter position should be seen as lesser, a further paradox within the materialist conception of itself. In either case, materialist rationalisation has been forced to delimit itself and now cannot escape finalisation as it has closed itself off from its own laws.

New territories have opened and organisations are either forced into contracts with reality or an ever greater construction of artificial being. It remains to be seen if the latter is possible, as the spectacle of lunacy begins to overwhelm any potential to retain superfluous reproduction. Castes return as a necessity of being and nobility appears within the very inability of humanism's incompletion. The philosophies of effect only increase perception of this need; self-negation is their only value, and we are beginning to see the approach of their limit.

>>13872851
>he uses Marxist terminology therefore he is interested in Marxism
he says Marx smuggled in right wing politics to his work and that the left is antithetical to the production of intelligence

I miss girardfag

>>13873260
Who cares what a retard schizo says. It's just marxism rebranded, as you would realise if you'd ever read it.

>>13864155
you fucked my life up with your bad posts

>>13873516
I've read it anon, a lot of it, and I consider myself a Marxist

>>13868732
Land defines Capitol as the surplus of any system. It's a pretty broad definition already

I'm going to be without internet for a week or so and wanted to spend the time reading Land. Which of his books/essays should I print out? I don't have time to order any books

>>13873741

You could print out his Jacobite articles.

>>13873741
if you want philosophy read Meltdown, Machinic Desire, and Circuitries
if you want politics, check out his blogs

>>13871817
Read it. How can you expect anybody to spend that much time on a fucking 4chan post. Just read it ffs

>>13871817
>midwit
>posturing
>reddit spacing
why are you all so cringe? is there an anti-accel subreddit you all hang out in or something

>>13873266
Hopefully he is in academia, now. Explicating weird philosophy in heaven, as it were.

>>13874484
There's not a single space

>>13873551
So explain the differences.

>>13873661
So you admit he's a retard

>>13874382
Xer spend all that time writing nothing. Figured I'd help xer write something useful

>>13874484
>reads pseud reddt trash
>can't logic
>can't argue
>can't meme
>pure reddt i know you are but...
>slide tactics
imagine being acc and calling anyone reddt

>>13870781
What's this from?

What's the deal with the anon seething about acc over the past few months? You can't have a Land or Acc thread without this guy shitting up the entire thing. Is it just standard contrarianism now that Acc is popular?

>>13870781
How does capital reintroduce subjectivity

>>13876278
>only one person could possibly disagree with tranny pseuds shitting up the board
Every time

>>13872881
lots of claims, little arguments

>>13876480
"In its perfected state, capital is representation. Its rise to this state is due to its anthropomorphization, namely to its capitalization of human beings, [1] and to its supersession of the old general equivalent, gold. Capital needs an ideal representation, since a representation with substance inhibits its process. Gold, if it is not totally demonetized, can no longer play the role of standard. Capitalized human activity becomes the standard of capital, until even this dependence on value and its law begin to disappear completely. This presupposes the integration of human beings in the process of capital and the integration of capital in the minds of human beings.

Capital becomes representation through the following historical movement: exchange value becomes autonomous, human beings are expropriated, human activity is reduced to labor, and labor is reduced to abstract labor. This takes place when capital rises on the foundation of the law of value. Capital becomes autonomous by domesticating the human being. After analyzing-dissecting-fragmenting the human being, capital reconstructs the human being as a function of its process. The rupture of the body from the mind made possible the transformation of the mind into a computer which can be programmed by the laws of capital. Precisely because of their mental capacities, human beings are not only enslaved, but turned into willing slaves of capital. What seems like the greatest paradox is that capital itself reintroduces subjectivity, which had been eliminated at the time of the rise of exchange value. All human activity is exploited by capital. We can rephrase Marx's statement, "Labor, by adding a new value to the old one, at the same time maintains and eternizes [capital] " [2] to say: all human activity "eternizes" capital.

Capital as representation overcomes the old contradiction between monopoly and competition. Every quantum of capital tends to become a totality; competition operates between the various capitals, each of which tends to become the totality. Production and circulation are unified; the ancient opposition between use value and exchange value loses its raison d'être. Besides, consumption is the utilization of not only material products but mostly representations that increasingly structure human beings as beings of capital and revitalize capital as the general representation. Prices no longer have the function they had in the period of formal domination of capital, when they were representations of value; they become mere indices or signs of representations of capital. Free goods are not impossible. Capital could assign a specific quantity of its products to each programmed individual; this quantity might depend on the required activity imposed on this individual. Such a despotism would be more powerful than the present one. Human beings would wish they had the money which had "given" them free access to the diversity of products."

>>13876650
"...

The disintegration of consciousness which can be seen in manifestations like the women's liberation movement, the gay liberation movement and anti-psychiatry (which are only possible after the work of Freud, Reich, and the feminist movement at the beginning of this century) is not part of the simultaneous emergence of revolutionary consciousness, but only reflects the end of bourgeois society based on value, on a fixed standard which affected all levels of human life. The disintegration began when the general equivalent conflicted with circulation. If the former general equivalent gave way, it was lost. The State had to force all subjects to respect a normalcy based on a standard which established the values of society. The law of value imprisoned human beings, forcing them into stereotypes, into fixed modes of being. The highest development of morality appeared in Kant's categorical imperative. By engulfing the general equivalent, by becoming its own representation, capital removed the prohibitions and rigid schemas. At that point human beings are fixed to its movement, which can take off from the normal or abnormal, moral or immoral human being.

The finite, limited human being, the individual of bourgeois society, is disappearing. People are passionately calling for the liberated human being, a being who is at once a social being and a Gemeinwesen. But at present it is capital that is recomposing man, giving him form and matter; communal being comes in the form of collective worker, individuality in the form of consumer of capital. Since capital is indefinite it allows the human being to have access to a state beyond the finite in an infinite becoming of appropriation which is never realized, renewing at every instant the illusion of total blossoming.

The human being in the image of capital ceases to consider any event definitive, but as an instant in an infinite process. Enjoyment is allowed but is never possible. Man becomes a sensual and passive voyeur, capital a sensual and suprasensual being. Human life ceases to be a process and becomes linear. Aspired by the process of capital, man can no longer be "himself." This aspiration evacuates him, creating a vacuum which he must continually satisfy with representations (capital). More generally, capital in process secures its domination by making every process linear. Thus it breaks the movement of nature, and this leads to the destruction of nature. But if this destruction might endanger its own process, capital adapts itself to nature (by anti-pollution, for example)."

>>13876548
You have tunnel vision?

There are no arguments against acc

>>13876548
How would you explain the descent of marxism into a work organisation, the total capitulation of marxists to liberalism, the theological turn, and the generalised lunacy that as taken over every sector of society?
Let's see the power of your arguments.

>>13876278
>we're so BASED how could anyone not like us
kek

>>13876650
so, the metaphysics of capital are inherently oppressive? but how does it reintroduce subjectivity exactly? i don't buy into the le gold objective value meme

>>13876653
seemed advaita based until it equates liberation with community

>>13871407
it's not from the future, it's from outside of time

>>13876789
Yes, it is essentially extracting from human community and creating its opposite, complete domestication of the human being.
Because the state and industrial rationalisation finalized a consciousness of domination, or as he says the Kantian categorical imperative is the perfection of slave morality. Capital removes this, at least formally, and the human returns to subjectivity, will, or the body of force rather than a machinic slave to duty.
However, real domination implies that this subjectivisation is artificial, perhaps even a means of creating a higher capitalised being. He is freed to enslave himself, which is the most degrading aspect.
In other words, the human is returned to subjectivity, but then limited by a higher level of domination: an artificial movement towards gemeinwesen.

>>13876660
no, but i dont hallucinate things that arent there like a schizo who read too much

>>13876825
Not sure what you mean.

>>13876890
Nice argument. Try giving a summary of what it said and then point out where it's wrong.

>>13876885
capitalism as altering the values of man in a sense that itself is domesticaing and becoming 'alive'? seems like a meta take, nothing more. how does it produce subjectivity though?

>>13876842
kek what does this even mean

>>13876701
they were like that from the get-go

>>13876909
No.
Meta take? Not sure what that's supposed to mean. Acc cope I suppose.
Already answered the last.

>>13876946
what are you trying to say then? why do you think capitalism produces subjectivity?

>>13876934
Marxists were liberals from the beginning? Liberals and marxists have always been engaged with theology? Generalised lunacy was here from the beginning.
Impressive claims, now show how this is the case.

>>13876962
I don't think that. That's what the argument is.
Why don't you see what it is saying? What are you having difficulty with?

>>13876650
>>13876653
so everything land says was already said 30 years before in clear and simple terms
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13876982
No he says a lot more than Land.

>>13869412
What a pathetic slowfag you are

>>13877120
still waiting for a speed king to show the differences >>13870754

>>13856645
>be on train
>open up bible
>keep saying "OH BULLSHIT"

>>13856645
>kept saying "hmmm" and rising his eyebrows
lmao

>>13856645
i love this so much

>>13876972
yes you reposted the person who literally said that.

>>13865049
Some losers on here and twitter are so mad that Land is now literally a boomer conservative, not even a reactionary, that they doubled down on xenofeminism as the true Land continuation.

>>13877563
What?

>>13876909
the absolute state of accs

>>13875649
Marxism:
dialectics
anthropocentric
development of (class) consciousness

accelerationism:
differential
anti-anthropocentric
development of (nonhuman) intelligence

>>13877733
What?

>>13877805
Look at this retard >>13870754

>>13876526
if you can't tell who it is just pay attention to the filenames, warosu tells the whole story. it's not that only one person who could disagree, it's that one autost who shows up everytime and shrieks about Pinker and acc memes not being quick enough

>>13877733
This is the best post I have ever seen

>>13876926
read Kant

>>13877816
You asked a question that was answered twice.

>>13877844
it was not answered once you copy and pasted the source of the quote which ill explains why

>>13877831
Most would disagree. Even animefags.

>>13877855
>>13876650
>>13876653
>>13876885
And you didn't answer the questions in these posts>>13876946
>>13876972

>>13877890
you reposted the source of the quote that explains that capitalism produces subjectivity and then claim not to support it ?

>>13877855
>too lazy to read

>>13876982
>everything land says
wrong; didn't read the word lemur once

>>13877920
read it all fag

>>13877911
I have to agree with everything I read? Sorry, I'm not acc.
Within his worldview he is quite correct, and much better than acc nonsense or anything else from the Left.

>>13877822
lmao how many times have you accused people of this? you even do it when there's no correlation between filenames

>>13877964
>explain it to me and I'll tell you why your wrong
>anon you already read the explanation
>oh and I'm supposed to agree with that?
literally retarded

>>13877981
see
>>13857150
>>13858902
>>13864641
>>13864859
>>13865039
>>13865046
>>13865435
>>13870669
>>13870758
>>13870781
>>13870844
>>13870862
>>13871318
if warosu is up yet run the file names kek

>>13871381

Reconciling Lovecraftian cosmicism with cyberpunk meditations on technology. Basically capitalism+time=Cthulhu.

>>13877987
>can't greentext
>thinks everything must be taken literally
>can't meme
Think about what you just wrote. Seriously, think about it.
The post asked for the reason why Camatte says capital reintroduces subjectivity.
The answer was given.
Nowhere was it asked whether anyone here agreed (which would be relevant anyway).
Now you are saying it is retarded because I don't necessarily agree with it.

Get off the drugs, boomer.

>>13878021
>STOP NAMING YOUR FILES
>REDDIT PHONEFAGS ONLY

>>13878073
>spacing

>>13878086
>o-of course the dozens of anti-acc fags use the same file names, w-we get them all from the same discord server!

>>13878089
Yes, sometimes spacing is a thing you do. But I know you can't read and sliding is the only thing you're good at.

>>13878106
go back

Anyways, fuck the sliders. Let's discuss this
>>13876650
>>13876653

accfags showing once more how retarded and pathetic they are

>>13878102
because acc spam certainly doesn't come from a discord

>>13878073
>hy Camatte says capital reintroduces subjectivity.


still dont actually know why

>>13878281
maybe if you weren't such dicks someone would take more time to explain it

>>13878245
>he doesn't even deny it
wait are you faggots actually on discord lmao

>>13876777
Guess this is just statistics again.
How bad will you have to lose to acknowledge it?

>>13878295
im not being a dick im trying to understand

>>13878073
>Nowhere was it asked whether anyone here agreed
then why did you bring it up?

this kills the HODL theorist

>>13878367
Perhaps I am confusing posters, but no one responded when I asked what you weren't getting.

>>13856645

>>13856797
lol OH cock and ball torture not cognitive behavioral therapy - UNLESS...

Have you guys listened to this yet?:

>In this episode I speak with controversial philosopher and "father of accelerationism" Nick Land about John Carpenter's 1994 cult classic 'In the Mouth of Madness.'

https://soundcloud.com/personalcanon/in-the-mouth-of-madness-with-nick-land

It's pretty good.

>>13879740
We posting Land podcasts now?
https://hermitix.podiant.co/e/accelerationism-capital-with-nick-land-36b108824c01de/
He doesn't sound as cool as I'd expected, desu

>>13878390
Google Quantum Tech broke what put "crypto" in "cryptocurrency". If intel community works with Google, that means that the whole cryptologic system over which we relieve on is virtually compromised. The western human control system had access to the other side now. Imagine if Internet gained 100 years of obsolescence in less of 24 hours.

>>13880195
My only reference for his voice was that little video clip from 1994, so I thought his voice is actually a lot better now if anything
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GMdPLxbuc8Q

This is an attempt for me to describe through feeling and relationships this incredible rhythm of creative inspiration: https://vimeo.com/265524091

Why is he still living in China?

>>13880548
He is a sino-intelligence asset.

>>13880548
Because China is the most accelerationist, neo-liberal turbo-capitalism without democracy nor human rights.
It's comfy there for him.

Never let anyone tell you the future you KNOW is possible - free from all abuse and exploitation - is impossible. Fuck their theories, fuck their science, fuck their projections. Fuck their arrogant false sense of certainty based on incomplete models that are so careless of deeper involvements that insist on being clarified. Never give up, keep searching, dreaming, growing, loving, and living as hard as you can, and aspire towards the future as brightly as you can.

>>13880576
you cool

>>13880576
thank you anon this made my night :)

>>13856515
Philosophy of the past ~100 years reads like religion to me. Except replace a god with the authors farts

>>13881084
Pretty much true. And perhaps the simplest understanding of acc/etc.
Dogs in particular get scared by their farts.

>>13878328
retard

>>13880548
Because China is superior.

>>13882465
The masochistic Anglo becomes a bug.

quick question, should I pick up fanged noumena, even though I did only one semester of philosophy, never read deleuze and am able to understand only roughly 60% of content of random #accelerate articles? i liked meltdown

>>13882637
No. Have you learned nothing from these threads?

>>13882637

Land is fun to read even if you don't really understand what he's going on about. Sometimes, you'll feel like your on the cusp of understanding, and you'll keep thinking about something he said over and over again despite yourself. Days, weeks, or months later, understanding will spring to mind, or not. Some might find this frustrating, but I actually quite like it.

Here's a stray remark from one of his blog posts that I kept thinking back to out of lack of understanding:

>Our cause is depoliticization (or catallaxy, negatively apprehended). The tradition of spontaneous order is our heritage.

>>13878021
Retard accel.

Land is fun to read even if you don't really understand what he's going on about. Sometimes, you'll feel like you're on the cusp of understanding, and you'll keep thinking about something he said over and over again despite yourself. Days, weeks, or months later, understanding will spring to mind, or not. Some might find this frustrating, but I actually quite like it.

Here's a stray remark from one of his blog posts that I kept thinking back to out of lack of understanding:

>Our cause is depoliticization (or catallaxy, negatively apprehended). The tradition of spontaneous order is our heritage.

>>13882654
I don't come here to learn

>>13882637
Landian praxis is anti-top-down platonic study. Twitter (decentralized post/neo-philosophy), Capital is profoundly illiterate, slogan processing -- flashing subliminal signals (neo/post-buzzwords). Immerse yourself in Nyx (Neo-Land (Nick Land is now an old fogey(boomer))), read her tweets

>>13882659
YOU NAMED YOUR FILE YOU MUST BE A SAMEFAG!

>>13882662
It's past your bedtime nick

>>13882675
and amy ireland

>>13882665
I feel you. I basically read Fanged as a work of poetry and a cyborg schizo babble manifesto in the opposite moral alignment of this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mSwp_tpSOM

>>13861341
And lots of scientists during 19th century were coke addicts. Who cares.