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13786429 No.13786429 [Reply] [Original]

Why do midwits love this novel so much?

>> No.13786441

>>13786429
the midwits are the ones that don't give it an honest try and to feel better about being a lazy retard pretend it is trash and goes on ranting about how only pretentious people like it

>> No.13786445

>>13786441
t. midwit

>> No.13786446
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13786446

the prose

>> No.13786448

>>13786441
>t. midwit
>>13786429
Same reason why they like DFW. Because it has a reputation for being complex and they associating with it and claiming to like it will make them appear sophisticated. Protip: it doesn't and people can see right through it.

>> No.13786468

>>13786441
>don't give it an honest try
The fact that you think Ulysses is hard to understand and the people who criticize it haven't genuinely tried to appreciate it is why you are and always will be a midwit.

>> No.13786474

>>13786468
you probably haven't been here very long

>> No.13786479

>>13786474
What makes you say that?

>> No.13786491

>>13786479
the fact you think ulysses does not intimidate a lot of readers and that lots of readers don't drop it.
75% of posts bashing Ulysses are made by people who have not read the whole thing.
And I never said it was hard to understand, as you stated. not taking your bait any longer, good day

>> No.13786519

>>13786491
good day

>> No.13786523

>>13786491
midwit

>> No.13786721

>>13786491
it's 2019, books aren't intimidating anymore, you can google anything you don't understand. These epic confusing referential novels haven't aged well.

>> No.13786814
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>>13786491
The only reason I dropped Ulysses is because I checked it out from the library and realized that I wouldn't be able to make it through the entire thing adequately within the period I had it checked out. One day I'll just buy the damn book, but not today. Also, are there any editions that I should be wary of?

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>>13786721
>google

>> No.13786987

>>13786446
AHH THE PROSE

>> No.13787001

>>13786814
>One day I'll just buy the damn book, but not today.
That's the spirit fren

>> No.13787039

>>13786429
It makes sense. Brainlets hate it because they can’t understand its complexity, and big brains are autistic to enjoy its playfulness. It takes a really relaxed kind of intelligence to enjoy this masterpiece

>> No.13787145

>>13786721
>These epic confusing referential novels haven't aged well
the absolute state of /lit/ kek

>> No.13787260

>>13786814

I read the 1922 edition from world classics. Pro was that it had notes explaining confusing bits and errors introduced in the original printing. Con was that those were buried in a sea of endnotes that become more distracting than helpful.

1961 edition is good, maybe just get that and look up info as needed. Avoid the Gabler edition, it introduces bits from manuscripts that Joyce left out of the final printing.

>> No.13787823

>>13787039
This, it's a pretty comfy book when you know what's going on.

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>>13786721
>you can google anything you don't understand
>implying people care enough to google (on yahoo) for stuff they don't understand

>> No.13787924

>>13786429
Was the entirety of Circe just them getting high? I’m confused

>> No.13787935

>>13787823
>>13787039
M I D W I T S
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>> No.13788015

>>13787924
They're shitfaced; the ending of Oxen is them going to a bar to continue drinking. It helps to know that the style of the Circe chapter was modeled after Flaubert's weird play/novella thing The Temptation of Saint Anthony which is why it is so hallucinogenic.

>> No.13788025

I read it, I didn’t love it. I didn’t even get it. It’s probably the most difficult novel ever written that can still be understood by a casual reader. I probably understood less than 10% of it and I don’t pretend otherwise. I’m gonna read it again in the next year though. I’ve done a lot more reading since then and my reading muscles are much stronger now

>> No.13788115

It's literally just fun

>> No.13788128

>>13788015
Thanks :)

>> No.13788151

>>13786721
> you can google anything you don't understand
Most of Joyce's references are not glossed on any website or have conflicting interpretations. Even with a guide you still need to put in the effort to comprehend the entirety of the book. Ulysses is more than "le references xD"

>> No.13788305

Ulysses is a solid 10/10, but it's nothing compared to the WAKE

>> No.13788987

>>13786814
If you're considering hardcover, Everyman's Library is a nice edition and good version of the text. For paperback, the Vintage Classics is good for reading and Oxford is good for analyzing the different editions. I wouldn't recommned Oxford or any 1922 text if you're distratced by typos, but if you made it through this setnence you should be fine.

>> No.13789072

>>13786429
super cringe OP

>> No.13789201

>>13788115
Yeeeees this :)