/lit/ - Literature

>>13722836
So fucking cringe.

This is why I read a simple leather Bible in NKJV. The Bible should not be a tacky activity book.

>>13722836
https://blog.heartsupport.com/lets-stop-pretending-christianity-is-even-christian-anymore-455f8897ba74?gi=df6e91879f95

>>13722865
>i-i'm not like those other protestants

>>13722836
Can’t you fucknuts make a general thread to keep all this mouthbreather shit in?

>>13722933
the true christians are those traditionalist anabaptists who live communally and still dress plain. Rome is babylon

>>13722926
well that was cringe.
>>13722959
blasphemy

let's be honest, both sides are cringe. most Protestants ignore literally everything Jesus taught about tolerance and community in favor of holding to Jewish law and inventing new, utterly bizarre rules, and most Catholics are polytheists-in-denial that perform borderline Satanic rituals. Protestants are glorified Jews, Catholics are glorified neopagans
the true Christians are those that read the NJPS OT once for context and then repeatedly read and reread NT in the original Koine Greek, focusing on Jesus' teachings in particular, and resist all attempts by organized religion to reinterpret Jesus and Paul

>>13723022

The only true Christians were the Cainites.

>>13723093
>Cainites
Unclear if you mean Canaanites or people followed Cain.

>>13722836
Let me guess, you never had to convince zoomers to read the Bible? I always forget that lot is filled with NEETs who don’t volunteer at their church.

>>13723106
I'm always amazed by people who allege to be devout Christians and use 4chan.

>>13723106
NEETs are ostracized wherever they go. church is no exception. getting zoomers to read the bible sounds pretty easy, actually. i would just start shitting on jews and gays.

>>13723101
I meant the Cainites
>>13723106
>thinking kids care about "gross and gory details"
How out of touch are these publishers? How out of touch are you?

>>13723109
Maybe in 2008, but the culture has turned a 180. I'm surprised there are still people who allege to be devout leftists or devout homosexuals and use 4chan.

>>13723138
/pol/ isn't Christian either.

>>13723138
>devout leftists
/lit/ is a communist board
>devout homosexuals
>devout
???
also /hm/ and /u/ exist

>>13722836
you don't know the half of it.

check out this certified protty kino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTChiMC5KDg

>it ends with american-jesus going to the pope and converting him to protestantism

are protestants even human?

>>13722836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

you mean americans?

>>13723022
This
Most Christians devote themselves not to Jesus but to their pastor or the general way of thinking. Whenever you try to talk about topics you always get hit with
>GAYS BAD
>RAPTURE IS COMING SO BE GOOD
>SATANIST
These fucking retards are pulling me away from God more Pokemon cards

>>13722836
>atheists

>>13723209
>>13723212

Former catholic trying to become religious again. Which bible do I buy? I care more about the quality of writing

>>13723353
The bible is not for the lay, it is only for the priest.
Learn Latin for Mass.

>>13723353
Douay-Rheims
RSV2CE
New Jerusalem Bible

Stay away from popular prot Bibles like the KJV and NIV

>>13723353
original Koine Greek
if you absolutely must have it in English, then NRSV is the most neutral choice, having been written by scholars with ecumenical sources rather than by a specifically Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox council
if you don't like the NRSV, then you'd probably do best with either OP's pic or with the LDS edition published in Portuguese

>>13723422
The LDS editions are unironically the best versions though simply for the footnotes if nothing else.

>>13723093
Remember, wherever we go, it is the blood of Caine which makes our fate.

>>13722836
What is a more redpilled alternative to the catholic church. I feel catholics have really gone downhill since the time of the crusades, loosing all contact with their white european roots. Is there a catholic church that's only for white people?

>>13723432
are they really that much better than the NRSV annotations? I mean, these are the same people who think Jesus went to America
>>13723447
friendly reminder that all attempts to make reactionary churches devolve into Jewry, since Jesus taught tolerance and equality and rejecting him just makes you a Jew

>>13723447
Matthew 28:19-20
>19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

White people like you are cringey as hell.

My dad always told me the opposite of protestants is contestants. I never truly understood what he meant until I saw this thread.

>>13723447
This is true. Catholicism is the religion of Filipinos, Africans, Latinos intent on syncretising it with their indigenous pagan beliefs, money launderers, and paedophiles.

And like faithful Catholics in this thread have pointed out, the destiny of the Church, Christianity in general, has always been multicultural liberal nihilism so you are really barking up the wrong tree trying to find a "reactionary Christianity".

>>13723496
>going against Scripture
Funny how protestants love to send missionary work to all those groups you just listed. Go ahead and try to convince anyone that Christianity is a 'white mans' religion.

>>13723496
Catholics predicted society going to complete shit

>>13722836
>religionists
As cringey as always, but in new and interesting ways.

>>13723505
>Go ahead and try to convince anyone that Christianity is a 'white mans' religion.
My whole point was that it isn't? Are you thick?

>>13723509
Makes sense those closest to the rot would see it coming before anyone else.

>>13723476
Just ignore all the cross references to the LDS-specific scriptures, and they are still very good

>>13723519
>durr da catholics are EEEEBIL
protestants want to believe they can get into heaven without doing good on Earth.

>>13723545
this must work both ways, so obviously you can't get into hell without doing bad
righteous atheists and pagans in heaven confirmed

>>13723093
the only true christian died on the cross

>>13723509
ironically it was the Catholics who ushered in the degeneracy

>>13723655
Glad you posted this ironically and not unironically

>>13722836
i have a copy of this IRL
will dump if bored enough

>>13723703
please, it sounds hilarious

>>13723708
Ok

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>>13723792

>reading anything else than the OSB in english

daily reminder that the serpent was the good guy

>>13723798
And the best one

>>13723757
>they opened the Horror Door
kek what the fuck

theres is one for "girlz" too

>>13723810
Americans were a mistake

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>>13723761
>he became like the Incredible Hulk
>it was lights out for the bad guys
>>13723777
>it doesn't mean little hospital
>>13723801
>(rap:)
>>13723810
>faithgirlz

>>13723816
Worked by the Babylon Bee

This really takes me back to the 90s when you could just add a reversed baseball cap and a skateboard to something to make it cool.

>>13723816
how is this even possible? do they have no self awareness? don’t they see the absurdity and incongruity of what they do and the religion they supposedly follow? my first reaction was sadness, but now i feel like laughing hysterically

>>13723813
now imagine having it translated to other countries. i discovered it this through a brazilian edition

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>>13723839
the transparent profiteering is quite infuriating

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>>13723848
I think we can count this as sexism

>>13723854
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>>13723857

>fast forward 3k years into the future
>be an orthodox catholic arch-librarian tech-inquisitor arch
>find this

>>13723853
>scapegoat means “escape-goat”
>tfw I look this up and it’s true
i genuinely thought they were just making that up

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>>13723867
pls stop i’ve had enough

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>>13723661
I was unironically saying it ironically

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>>13723899
All I plan on doing for now, may do some more tomorrow

>>13722836
pff, get on my level kid

>>13723862
>hey, want to play go fish with some tarot cards?
>no way! I'm trusting my future to God
>??? please leave my house
>>>13723879
are you fucking kidding me
>>13723887
>Kentucky Fried Rebels
I'm going to kill myself
>>13723904
thank you for your service

>>13723848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t76dllHhcrw
Water? Soap?

>>13723832
Babylonbee is satire like the onion, but i wouldnt be surprised if they actually did something like this

>>13722836
Protestants are basically catholic lite. They dont really stick to the scripture.
Proverbs 9:10
>The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

>>13722939
Generals are the death of a big board. They'll inevitably turn into identityfags circlejerking
You DON'T WANT generals

>>13723650
true but what about early christians and gnostics?

Preaching to the youth is very difficult when the boys and girls ages 0 to 18 dont go to church (their parents dont either). They then never go to church and never become believers. It is a complicated topic, consider, for example, that most sermons a pastor gives are meant for people with actual life experience. Themes include forgiveness and responsibility, which are for the most part meaningless to a child. I know that very well personally, when i was that age around 12 or 13 I thought I understood what my pastor was saying and the message he was giving. Then I started sinning for real and when I went to church everything became meaningful, it was completely different. So how do you get kids to have at least SOME interest in reading scripture?

>>13723022
>Protestants ignore literally everything Jesus taught about tolerance and community
So you're saying protestants are fucking based

>>13724269
>So how do you get kids to have at least SOME interest in reading scripture?
I dont think its possible in this cultural climate except very small close communities.

>>13724269
I mean, if a little nigga is going to read a book, they'll read a book. If you want to talk about the rituals behind them, sure. Are you going to start using a decanter for your wine every day simply due to the ritual of it?

>>13722836

whoever made this bible is going to hell for making the bible gay

>not being a taoist
Lmaoing @ ur lifes

>>13723447
If you're seriously committed to some fictitious "white European" identity you're better off being a neopagan larper. You'll be cringy as hell and you'll experience no real spiritual development but at least other people will know to stay away from you.

>>13722865
nkjv is altered to promote the false doctrine of works salvation, simply just read the regular inspired kjv instead. The nkjv does far more than just get rid of the "thees and the thous"

I understand that the makers are really just trying to get people to read scripture and while they're intentions may seem good, they're really not. Not everybody should read scripture. They're not equipped intellectually and they don't have teachers so they're probably going to come away with some bad ideas that do nothing but endanger their souls.

This shit has more to do with them being Americans than them being protestants desu

>>13724342
Demonstrate whatever you're referring to.

>>13724343
>. They're not equipped intellectually and they don't have teachers so they're probably going to come away with some bad ideas that do nothing but endanger their souls.
What do you mean?

What do you want? There's nothing anyone can do about it. These translations are owned by prive companies and the older ones like the KJV are public domain. Anyone can publish whatever the hell they want. And I don't think that's a bad thing, but it means that people publishing stupid shit isn't particularly indicative of anything.

>>13724353
I'm talking more about the protestant tendency to isolate scripture from tradition when studying which leads them to repeating the exact same heresies that have existed throughout history. It's not enough to merely read the bible in order to understand Christianity.

>>13724362
>private companies*

>>13724365
Which tradition? Catholicism isn't the only ancient church that can trace back to Christ. No matter what you do you're making up your mind individually about what Christianity is.

>>13724326
Source?

>>13724374
I think Catholicism is the only true Christian tradition for a number of different reasons but the biggest is that the Gospels record Jesus establishing a Church and priestly hierarchy on earth and giving them the power to bind and loose, which essentially means that they have the power to teach Christian beliefs and that they can't assert false beliefs dogmatically since what is bound and loosed on earth and bound and loosed in heaven. Jesus then gives Peter the keys which in reference to ISA 22 and symbolizes the office of stewardship in Davids kingdom which was dynastic, so this means that Peter is given the office of stewardship in Jesus' kingdom on earth which is his Church. Apostolic succession is also established in Acts and is also evidenced throughout the early Church fathers like Clement, and because this succession is protected by the Holy Spirit, it will last until Jesus returns. The protestant reformation represents a complete break away from this tradition and is thus invalid and not true Christianity.

>>13724405
You missed my point. You have your argument, Eastern Orthodox have their argument, etc. I as an individual have to evaluate what you are saying and come to my own decision. Perhaps I will decide all of you are wrong. No matter what you have chosen you yourself decided what Christianity is.

>>13724424
If all you're saying is that the Catholic tradition can be either right or wrong, then isn't that a little too obvious to bother stating? It's not like the Catholic and Orthodox can both be right. Somebody has to be wrong and I have good reason to think it's the Orthodox because they can't account for the evidence for the papacy.

>>13724405
Your argument is based on the keys being something different than the power of binding and loosing, which is false.

>>13724441
I'm saying that what you are accusing Protestants of doing -- coming to understand Christianity "on their own" -- is also what you are doing. You're supposedly in submission to some greater authority, but you yourself decided to submit to it because in your interpretation it is the correct authority.

>>13724405
>Jesus then gives Peter the keys which in reference to ISA 22 and symbolizes the office of stewardship in Davids kingdom which was dynastic
>Isaiah 22:20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah:
>21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.
>22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.
>23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.
Huh that seems like something that could refer to the Papa---
>24 And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father's house, the offspring and the issue, all vessels of small quantity, from the vessels of cups, even to all the vessels of flagons.
>25 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall the nail that is fastened in the sure place be removed, and be cut down, and fall; and the burden that was upon it shall be cut off: for the Lord hath spoken it.
Hmm...

>>13724443
I think I've seen this argument before. It relies on a particular interpretation of the King James Version to the exclusion of the Septuagint or any other translations to come to the conclusion that the keys were also given to every other apostle. Even if we ignore the fact that this still disproves Protestantism, it's entirely unfounded. I think the text is pretty clear that only Peter is given the keys and that the keys themselves are distinguished from the powers of binding and loosing. If they were the same it would be completely unnecessary for Jesus to state that Peter and the apostles are getting the powers of binding and loosing and also getting the powers of binding and loosing. He would be repeating himself.

>>13724445
No this doesn't follow. I'm not making myself an astro physicist simply because I come to the more fundamental conclusion on my own that change is an actual feature of the universe. I'm not teaching myself the ins and outs of true Christianity and all its dogma by using my ability to discern which Christians are actually Christian.

>>13723022
stfu ignorant

>>13724457
I don't know what you're saying. If have something to say then just say it. Don't be indirect and make me play detective in order to figure out what your position is.

>>13723209
We had to watch that in religion class

>>13724462
>I think I've seen this argument before. It relies on a particular interpretation of the King James Version
Look the fucking pronouns, please. They're plural when he gives the power of "binding and loosing" in Matthew 18. They're plural in English and they're plural in Greek. That's how the language works and it shows he's speaking to multiple people.
>to the exclusion of the Septuagint
To the exclusion of what? The Septuagint is a translation of the Old Testament. We're talking about the book of Matthew.
>or any other translations
Because modern translations lack second person singular/plural distinction regarding pronouns. You don't have any idea what you're talking about on a linguistic level.
>to come to the conclusion that the keys were also given to every other apostle. Even if we ignore the fact that this still disproves Protestantism,
And? Who said that I'm a Protestant?
>it's entirely unfounded. I think the text is pretty clear that only Peter is given the keys and that the keys themselves are distinguished from the powers of binding and loosing. If they were the same it would be completely unnecessary for Jesus to state that Peter and the apostles are getting the powers of binding and loosing and also getting the powers of binding and loosing. He would be repeating himself.
He gives the power of binding and loosing to Peter in Matthew 16 and to all of the apostles in Matthew 18. What do Keys do? Think for just a moment --- they lock and unlock things. The same sort of language is used in Isaiah 22:
>And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.
Bind/loose shut/open lock/unlock. Keys do something. You act like they're just a meaningless symbol. What power do they symbolize other than what is actually given in the text?

>>13724467
Isaiah 22 states that Eliakim (who is given the keys) will be showered with worldly goods and then be cut down and fall. It's a prophecy about how he will come to power and then fall into sinfulness and be cut off. It's not about the Pope.

>>13724475
What do you do on protestant religion class?

>>13724476
I am not reading this. Show me the respect I give you and write properly.

>>13724480
That's one way to look at it but it ignores the more fundamental reality of what those keys are and what it means to be given them.

>>13724487
I'm going to explain it fully one more time. I'm going to use the Douay-Rheims translations since you shouldn't have any problem with that. The first instance of "binding and loosing", spoken to Peter:
>Mt. 16:19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
Note that pronouns are "thee" and "thou." These are singular forms of address, meaning Jesus is speaking to one singular person, i.e. Peter. This singular/plural distinction is lost in modern English so a modern translation will not reflect it unless it is included as a footnote.
The second instance of "binding and loosing," spoken to the Apostles:
>Mt. 18:18 Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.
Note that the pronouns have changed from "thee/thou" to "you." In older English, "you" (and "ye") are plural forms of address, meaning that more than one person is being spoken to. The power of "binding and loosing" is being conferred upon multiple people, i.e. the Apostles generally.
Lastly, the power of "binding and loosing" is the Keys. That is what Keys do. Keys lock and unlock, they bind and loose. The same sort of language is used in Isaiah 22, which you referenced:
>Isa. 22:22 And I will lay the key of the house of David upon his shoulder: and he shall open, and none shall shut: and he shall shut, and none shall open.
Shut/open, lock/unlock, bind/loose. Keys symbolize the authority of fixing something in place or unfixing it. This power is conferred not solely upon Peter but upon all of the Apostles as a group.

>>13724487
>what those keys
They're a symbol of temporal authority.
>are and what it means to be given them.
It means you'll fall into sinfulness and be condemned by God.

>>13724484
It was so long ago, I can't even remember. We had a list of passages we had to memorize and make flash cards for, we read through most of the new testament with commentaries, guest speakers would come in, and we had to spend a lot of time with this senile pastor who was so bad at editing his presentations that it was actually artwork: every word had a different font size and he would randomly underline, bold, and italicize words. I have to say that the teacher's didn't really understand what they were trying to get across and I didn't learn much

>>13724509
I've seen this before and as I've said, I'm not going to except and English rendering of the grammar as an authority. It's an absurd way to argue which is why nobody has accepted it throughout history. The notion that Peter alone is given the keys is historically uncontroversial for this reason. The real conflict between the east and west is what those keys mean.

>>13724530
>I'm not going to except and English rendering of the grammar
I meant to say I'm not going to accept any English rendering the grammar as evidence.

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>>13724533
>I've seen this before and as I've said, I'm not going to except and English rendering of the grammar as an authority.
Then look at the Greek.
>Mt. 16:19 kαὶ δώσω σοι τὰς kλεῖς τῆς βασιλείας τῶν οὐρανῶν kαὶ ὃ ἐὰν δήσῃς ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἔσται δεδεμένον ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς kαὶ ὃ ἐὰν λύσῃς ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἔσται λελυμένον ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς
σοί (to thee) is the dative of σύ, which is a second person singular pronoun (speaking to one person)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/σύ
>Mt. 18:18 Ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅσα ἐὰν δήσητε ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἔσται δεδεμένα ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ kαὶ ὅσα ἐὰν λύσητε ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἔσται λελυμένα ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ
ὑμῖν (to you) is the dative of ὑμεῖς which is a plural of σύ, meaning that more than one person is being addressed.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ὑμεῖς#Ancient_Greek

>>13724554
Are you going to address the fact that nobody historically believed what you do, that all the apostles were given keys?

>>13724563
It's not an unusual interpretation and is the Orthodox position.

>>13724568
The Orthodox don't equate the keys with binding and loosing.

>>13723832
>he got babylonbeed

>>13723138
>I'm surprised there are still people who allege to be devout homosexuals and use 4chan
For a male there's like 5 boards dedicated to homosexuality. For a female, many more.

>>13722836
>Become Orthodox
Orthodox study bible is the best bible.

10,000 protestant sects, every one is "right", but every one interprets the book their own way.
>Just do what the apostles did, join their church

>>13723109
To help convert people to Jesus' ways, you must dwell not in the churches, but in the alleyways where sin and immoral men congregate
-Adolf hitler

>>13724589
Why did they separate again?

Will Jesus help me if I'm a lazy sack of shit who deserves everything bad in life and who wants to kill himself?

>>13724589
Why is the NKJV version so good in your opinion?

>>13724623
yes but you need to accept him

>>13724574
They do. See picture. Source is The Papacy and the Orthodox by Siecienski (Oxford University Press).

>>13724630
I read Mere Christianity, and a lot of the book made sense and even surprised me in some ways. I just have no idea where to go. I'm a horrible person, I'm socially anxious, I'm a leech on everyone I know.

>>13723800
say sike right now

>>13723509
I've read the full messages and it also predicted historical events such as the martyrdom of a 19th century president of her country, with the exact place of where it happened.
Stay stong.

>>13724637
It is the love that God has for every person that he sent His son Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. We all deserved punishment yet those who humble themselves before God and ask for forgiveness, turning away from their old lives and choosing to follow Jesus instead are forgiven. Go talk to your local pastor too.

>>13724757
How should I know which church to go to? I haven't even read a single page from the bible yet.

>>13723447
I've been looking for the same thing
I found a FSSP Latin only church which keeps most brainlets away
But negroes still show up cause it's in the nigro neighborhood
Not many though

>>13724815
Maybe if you attend it enough you'll eventually become a Christian.

>>13723614
Nice bait.

>>13724795
I'm sorry anon but I don't know anything about you or where you live to give you a church reccomendation. Start reading the Gosple according to Luke. I'll be praying for you.

>>13723022
>ignore literally everything Jesus taught about tolerance
Yeah? Really? So what *did* he teach about tolerance?

Maybe it was his 'bread to dogs' parable, or the pearls and swine one?

>>13724822
>being Christian means liking niggers
Oh brother

>>13725061
Even if you consider them your enemies it is your duty to love them.

Ah, feels good to be a Baptist. I can read my simple leather bound kjv in peace, while protestants go down the rabbit hole of weirdness, Catholics worry about their grand poobah being a fag, and orthodox burn incense while getting yelled at by some church elder in a discount nun dress

>>13725067
Oh I love them, and I want them to live long and prosper in their own countries on their own continent

>>13723022
>true christians
Several centuries of war and schisms to determine what a true christian is and the solutions was this simple, terrific

>>13724795
I also suggest checking out the book of Acts in the Bible as well, Saul to Paul is a pretty interesting story and uplifting in my opinion. I also cannot give any church recommendations, but keep the idea of church in your mind as you delve deeper into the faith.

>>13723767
>Yum, yum.

>>13724795
don't forget to put a big donation into the basket they pass around when you go to church

Protestants:
>I don't have to struggle for my salvation!
>Why not?
>A guy in a stupid hat told me I didn't

>>13724795
Go learn some church history to get the gist of influential movements and what kind of impact they've had in history and then compare this with how Christianity had been traditionally practiced since the earliest centuries to most of history. This could help give you a better sense of direction.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrI5U0R293u9uveijefKyAA/videos?app=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsDOemNbjo&app=desktop

Personally I think people are capable of finding spiritual fulfillment in a variety of places even if they aren't the most authentic or ideal based on the fact that there have been many people who were able to devote their lives to their belief of choice and do so faithfully for a likley significant reason.

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>>13723614
>righteous atheists and pagans in heaven
Justin Martyr made some interesting arguments about this, that the Logos was what enlightened pagans in their searches for Truth that paralleled Christianity and that it's unclear whether they should be considered damned for rejecting God.

>>13725581
Says the person whose leader wears a fish crown or likely a fedora.

>>13725637
why is God such a prissy faggot that he has to eternally damn people for "rejecting" him. is he stuck in an adolescent stage? this is some high school drama tier shit

>>13725645
Said the disbelieving skeptic who has trouble tolerating other peoples' beliefs.

>>13725661
what are you talking about?

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>>13725643
Nope, Orthodox. Also Jesus, Paul and James never wore stupid hats

>>13724619
>le fallacious discourse wrapped up in ironic garbage
Please go back to r/chapo

>>13725645
Neither I nor anyone else are going to go through your r/atheism rigamaroo.
Find a less-gay use of your time.

>Christians

>>13726174
not an atheist, nice try

>>13725645
It has to do with God’s nature of holiness. God can’t interact with any sin because he would stop being holy, so the only way people can commune with God now is through Jesus Christ who paid the price for our sins (death) for us, since no other sacrifice was sufficient.

In other words, eternal separation from God is by itself eternal damnation, because once you’re dead, there’s no going back.

>>13724530
>>13724554
My knowledge on early modern English grammar may be a little shaky still so I don't know how anachronistic this may be but here it goes.

I also say to thee that thou art Rock: and on this rock I will build my convocation: and Hades' gates shall not overpower it. I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of the heavens: and whatever thou mayest have bound on the earth shall have been bound in the heavens: and whatever thou mayest have loosed on the earth shall have been loosed in the heavens.
https://biblehub.com/text/matthew/16-19.htm

Alternately one must not overlook the likelihood of this dialogue having originally been had in Aramaic. Here's a rendering I based largely on Syriac translations.

I also say to thee, that thou art Rock: and on this rock I will build my congregation: and the gates of Sheol/Sheol's gates shall not overpower it/prevail against it. To thee I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and all that thou shalt bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven: and what thou shalt loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.
http://dukhrana.com/peshitta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Matthew+16:19&source=ubs&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25

>>13725670
Oh, please. Stop pretending like your church is so different from Catholicism. I don't think ours or Orthodox hats are 'funny' but it's ironic prots are willing to call our hats 'funny' looking when nearly every painting of the 'reformers' have goofy looking hats as well.

>>13723496
Catholicism is the cultural soul of Europe. Europe started to die culturally when a arrogant/greedy people that were "too holy"/too "illuminated" to take valor of the Papal authority.
Capitalism, the most important product of the XVI's great cisma and principal cause of the slow cultural death of Europe, is just a more distilled form of protestant materialism, really.
And you don't comprehend Christianity, anon. Outside view can not comprehend the action of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Meaning of the Word.

>>13725103
Baptists saying they aren't Protestants is one of my top five biggest pet peeves.

>>13722836
Why are protestants so obsessed with such a brainlet concept as the gospel of weatlh?
Like, jesus was a hippy and these niggas try to paint him as some sort of tireless carpenter that worked all day long.

>>13725103
Baptists are the exact type of faggots to pull this shit though. Every Baptist I know (and I live in the south, so that's a lot) is an obnoxious cunt endlessly prattling on about youth groups and mission trips and how their pastor is so hip and cool for wearing jeans and playing drums in a fuck-awful Christian rock band

>>13723353
Compare some of them and decide for yourself:

Genesis 1 English Standard Version (ESV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=ESV&interface=print
Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=KJV&interface=print
Genesis 1 New King James Version (NKJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=NKJV&interface=print
Genesis 1 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=NRSV&interface=print

Matthew 1 English Standard Version (ESV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=ESV&interface=print
Matthew 1 King James Version (KJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=KJV&interface=print
Matthew 1 New King James Version (NKJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NKJV&interface=print
Matthew 1 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NRSV&interface=print

>>13723771
>especially if they were bringing Pizza.
Jesus is not bringing Pizza, this makes no fucking sense

>>13723369
The absolute state of Cathcucks.

>>13723447

So you want your religion to be a race-based nepotist cult? So basically exactly like Judaism?

Sounds real redpilled

>>13723813
No, evangelicalism was a mistake, thank God the rest of us are normal. Try finding any of this for a Lutheran, Catholic, or Episcopal.

Stay mad Pedro.

shameless test

>>13722836

A spoonful of sugar makes the catechist go down.

Like vitamin gummies.

What's your real problem OP?

>>13722836

A spoonful of sugar makes the catechist go down.

Like vitamin gummies.

What's your real problem OP?