/lit/ - Literature

>>13648644

>>13648644
>their superiority lay, not in their physical strength, but primarily in their psychical
Unironically what did he mean by this?

>>13648644
no freddy, im pretty sure their superiority came from their ability to beat the fuck out of someone

>>13648848
The spirit reflects the body it emerges from.

>>13648644
Nietzche works is some fancy homo-erotica.

>>13648644
I realised that civilization is for cucks after read the Conan adventures

>>13648644
Only a non-barbarian like Nietzsche could glorify the barbarian. Talk about unrealistic

>>13648906
>German/Polishman
>non-barbarian

>>13648848
As in, their ability to think clearly, allocate resources properly, direct men to perform certain tasks and to certain stations at the right time and correlative with their skills, basically the will to power directed towards conquest and developing a kingdom

>>13648644
he took the cripple pill tho

>>13648905
An AI-Barbarian society is the future

>>13648905
>>13650108
The cyborg assassin is an infinitely cooler ideal.

>>13650134
cyborg fuhrer

>>13648644
Conan almost always has a bit where he points out that the "civilized" city dwellers treat each other like garbage, but Hyperboreans with one set of clothing will give food, a blanket, and a place near the fire to a stranger. There's the clear-headed allocation of tasks but also a morality unpolluted by theology.

>>13648848
Emotional and mental strength.

>>13648876
The body reflects the spirit, too. We can spot criminals pretty easily.

>>13648848
He can't recognise their physical strength because he was an urbanite weakling so he has to pretend there's some hidden mental strength of the barbarian so he can larp as a strong "master" despite being crushed under the same immense socio-civilizational machinery as everyone he thought of as "slaves"

>>13650781
absolutely seething slave morality cuck

woops

>>13652935
meant for
>>13652900

>barbarian pill
sorry, took the pilgrim pill instead. peace be with you.

>>13648914
>>13652900
>>13651099
None of the examples given modern man is incapable of. Through a level of organisation that would have given Freddy a seizure, we took command of the very Earth and explored all the tiny lights in the sky that we used to think where avatars of some God.

Nietzsche cucks are just mad that they are part of the teeming, useless masses who can't get over themselves long enough to actually contribute to humanity, so they draw inspiration from escapist fantasies from the early 20th century because that's apparently more sophisticated than Minecraft.

Reading is directly contrary to being alpha.

>>13653065
One of the worst cases of fighting a strawman I've seen on this board lately.

>>13648644
I took the Robert E. Howard pill when I was 15 and I'm still recovering

>>13653101
>Barbarians are superior man, ooga uuga, pretty light is in retrograde

God is dead, so lets replace him with poorly thought out pseudo-mysticism while other people use modern nutrition and exercising techniques to become more physically superior to any other human beings in history.

>>13653141
Nietzsche isn't Ragnar Redbeard, he doesn't dream for a return to the past or consider the advent of new techniques and technologies a bad thing and seeks their destruction like some edgy anarchist; he only laments the values and virtues that have been lost and forgotten in the process. A Nietzschean embraces power in all forms.

>>13653141
a vandal would absolutely shrek any modern, it would be the fall of Rome in microscopy

Barbarian master race reporting in

Neechee has a good point. It's always the Barbarian who destroys another civilization so they must be doing something right.
p.s. Arnie's accent is so thick in the first one kek

>>13648644
>history is just whatever conforms to my monistic and reductionist philosophy

>>13652900
This.
https://youtu.be/rgJzRkRly5Q

>>13654287
Did barbarians listen to hair metal and take roids?

>>13653141
>other people use modern nutrition and exercising techniques to become more physically superior to any other human beings in history.
Daily reminder a female mine worker in Nietzsche's lifetime could lift more than /fit/ on T

this is the ubermensch

>>13648644
I understand where he's coming from but what really is "the barbarian caste"?
Barbarian is just a derogatory term Roman and Greeks used. The German tribes that replaced Rome as the new masters of Europe in late antiquity/early middle age where culturally different from the Romans, but not really less civilized and didn't think of themselves as barbarians. They even became Romanized quickly enough.

Remember, both Romans and barbarians were in the business of putting people through the sword, they were pretty similar in this.

>>13655121
It's a Hollywood movie, sweatie.

>>13655197
Arnold Schwarzenegger is an ubermensch in real life.

>>13655241
How so?

>>13655251
He created his own morality and pushed it on others so hard that he created modern bodybuilding. Not only that but he created the action hero and he became governor of the wealthiest, most relevant state in the US. He is a man who dominated both the physical (bodybuilding) and intellectual (film and statehood) worlds.

>>13653141
>modern nutrition
Basedbean oil
mickey d's
twinkies

Because Nietzsche is a fucking dumbass

>>13655385
Arnold is based. When I see that picture of him on his bicycle when he was young, that is all I wanted to be.

>>13648644
Where to start with the Conan books?

ANCIENT MEN CONQUERED CITIES

PUT THEM TO THE SWORD AND FIRE

MEANWHILE

(YOU)

GO TO WINE BAR WITH GF AND ENJOY TASTEFUL BANTER

YOU

ARE

GAY

>>13656651
What are you talking about? He was ahead of his time

Book related

>>13653065
big reddit post right here, sorry you won't get any gold for this one

>>13656942
You'd be surprised what a pain in the ass it is to get all the Conan stories in one collection. This one is the best one I have found, but Amazon are nigger loving queers and don't offer the kindle version any more, which I have. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NALZ23Z/

Avoid paying for it if you can, pirate bay has a few different ebooks that are listed as complete collections, but many of the collections published are formatted all shitty, or don't have all the stories, or have some other real pain in the ass problem. The Amazon link I posted here is the best one I've found, but Amazon are filthy kikes and took down the e book format so don't pay them if you can avoid it. b-ok might have a good one but they are running slow as fuck for me right now. #bookz probably has a collection too. It's not easy to get a well produced collection of all or even most of Howard's Conan stories, unfortunately.

>>13656942
Forgot to mention, there's no real long storyline in Conan though, you can start with pretty much any short story and it will make sense. I prefer to read things in chronological order of publication though.

>>13657456
>>13657469
should i start with the Robert Howard books or did any other authors do it better?

How are the Robert Jordan books?

>>13656645
not everyone is americ*n

>>13648644
>barbarians conquer gay faggy millet eaters
>impose their way of life on them and subjugate them to some degree
>side note: they manage this because they are more complete physical beings, more in and off the world, yet beholden to themselves more than other men - this is the basis of OP's quote
>this frees up time for the "barbarians"
>the increase in leisure time allows for them to pursue intellectual interests
>cultural output becomes more abstract
>barbarian conquers split into a aristocratic and priest castes
>priest caste maintains religion, attendant morality, spiritual corralling of population
>aristocratic class concerns itself with the management of material concerns, arts, and finally maintains a connection through to its "barbarian heritage" through practice of war, and physical fitness for its own sake.
>The Knightly Orders that spent their days practising for war typifies this in its most concentrated form
>these distinctions start to decay and disappear with the onset of nihilism

This was, roughly, Nietzsche's account of master morality. It was not meant to be historical, but archetypal. Nietzsche did not want a return to master morality, although he did consider being a master better than being a slave. Ultimately, the Master is tied to the Slave and this limits him. In seeking to go beyond these limits, among others, Nietzche dreams of the Ubermensch - who is not one of the Barbarians or a return to that form, but something beyond man and for whose values are fully generated with itself. Any person claiming to be the Ubermensch is a fag. It isn't here yet, it might not ever be.