/lit/ - Literature

why do you sound like a pick-me girl

did'nt you know that we've found ourselves superior to normie haters by being normie accepting
nowadays were normie-haters haters

>>13640425
That's actually 2018 meta, now we're hating normies again except we call them bugmen. Catch up grandpa.

>>13640425
this, normies are the real ubermenschen, op is just filled with resentment at their superior knowledge of the harry potter series

>>13640414
Yes, what a horrible timeline. Would that we could go back in time; I'm sure all of those illiterate peasants were familiar with all of the great literary works back then. Yes, of course, the average person in those times was a literary conosseuir.

>>13640434
The peasants having no access to culture was a way better phenomenon than shitty pseud culture existing and being shoved down everyone's throat though

I fucking hate Tao Lin so much. I just got home after a small slam poetry session where our host made us play Tao Lin trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile anti-novelists. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid books and shared his Twitter posts. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no references besides the ones to 2-3 very simple meme lines of dialogue. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into literary fiction because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar channers.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13640443
>What is the entire history of the Catholic Church

>>13640451
Catholic pauper culture was less harmful than modern pop culture. At least it wasn't horribly commercial and dishonest.

I fucking hate Geoffrey Chaucer so much. I just got home after a small fief banquet where our host made us play Geoffrey Chaucer trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile Middle English vernacularists. Even my betrothed wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid epics and studied his treatises. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no epigrams besides the ones from 2-3 very simple verses. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into morality plays because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar satirists.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13640493
Jej

I fucking hate exotericists so much. I just got home after a halaqah where our host made us recite from the works of Ibn Taymiyyah and all the other guests agreed because they were vile salafis. Even my wife wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid kutub and watched the saudi financed documentaries. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into the primordial metaphysical tradition as expounded by the Shaykh al-Akbar Abū ʿAbd Allāh Muḥammad ibn ʿAlī ibn Muḥammad ibnʿArabī because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar fundamentalists.

This truly is the most horrid Yuga

>>13640566
kekd

>>13640566
Holy based

>>13640566
>as expounded by the Shaykh al-Akbar Abū ʿAbd Allāh Muḥammad ibn ʿAlī ibn Muḥammad ibnʿArabī because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar fundamentalists.

I've had girls interested in me on tinder just because i could talk about the series, if you unironically read it after you are 14, then there is a problem, see no reason feel superior just because people like it, its lame as fuck.

>>13640414
My mom bought me a copy of Harry Potter when it first came out because she wanted me to "broaden my reading horizons" because at the time all I was reading was Shannara books.

Was so fucking boring, couldn't even get past the first chapter and threw away. Never read Harry Shitter again.

>>13640431
says the guy incorrectly using an mpc meme word from like 2017. I miss that website

>>13640678
Why does every female on the face of the planet love Harry Potter so much?

>>13640414
You should have excused yourself to stretch your legs.

>>13640566

nice anon, kek... makes me feel a little self-conscious though.

t. aspiring Traditionalist who knows literary Arabic and loves Abdal Hakim Murad

>>13640414
This thread started with the lowest sort of frog trolling, but /lit/ stepped up and made it wonderful.

>>13641025

>>13640458
I do think this is true, but I think the idea of watered-down culture shoveled into the plebs' mouths en masse is far from new, and noticing patterns like that is important

>>13640678
I sometimes read hp specifically to remind me of that childhood mindset of innocence and simple values because it is a kind of reminder of some things when you get in very abstract and confused places in your understanding of life. The simple narratives about having empathy for people, having courage in frightening situations, choosing to fight for good instead of evil, redemption, etc. They're not all that useful in real life but they do remind you of the impulses towards those things that exist within you.

War and Peace is another book I often reread expressly for that purpose, which has a lot more going on than hp obviously, but it's mostly the young people's little personal dramas that reminds me of those things in the book, so there is a similarity. War and Peace is especially good because Andrei and Pierre are both going through all sorts of mental confusions, and they have moments of redemption as well, and then it's contrasted with what's happening with the younger people like Natasha and Nikolai. The part where they make a little play at their forest cottage is absolutely magical, as is the part where Andrei hears Natasha talking about the moon in the room above his.

>>13640434
peasants do not deserve literacy. pearls to swine.

the modern day YA bugperson is just a spiritual peasant whose education was wasted on them

>>13640451
Every prediction they made a out the dissemination of literacy was vindicated in the end. Just look at all the heresies that have been revived by ignorant protestants, all of the personality cults and cynical hucksters. The vast majority of people don't have the moral fortitude to responsibly use literacy

>>13641050
nice twitter mee mee

>>13641102
Literally correct, yes, but they did inarguably take charge of shoving a pseud culture down the throats of the plebs for over a thousand years, for better or worse

>>13640719
It's still up. You just have to pay the pleasuregeld

>>13640414
>>13640444
>>13640493

New pasta?

>>13641025
shut up fag

>>13640458
>"horribly commercial and dishonest"
>sentimental authenticity-pleb
Taste comes from the Tongue, anon.

>>13640566
Based

>>13640414
25 to 30 years ago these people would have had a trivia about sports and would have made fun of you for reading any books at all like a freaking nerd.

>>13641037
>frog trolling
How I wish it was frog trolling. It was a genuine blogpost, I typed it on the bus because my head was buzzing painfully with cheap wine and I had nothing better to do.

>>13640493
Based

>>13640994
because its made for children

>>13640414
Liking Harry Potter doesn't make you a bugman.

>>13642560
Look at this fucking pleb who thinks that he'll be so cool if he says something contrarian. Hurrr durrr look my opinions are so unusual hurrrradurrrr Sneed haha amirite, epic win bro

>>13640443
>MOOOM TELL THEM TO STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE!!!!!

>>13642596
In fairness saying contrarian things to look cool is 75% of the fun on /lit/.

Is there a bigger sign of a brainlet pseud than to make friends who you don't share interests with and then complain about "muh wrong generation" when they start talking about things they like

>>13640443
Based. Fucking plebs ruined everything. Not only would we not have normie culture but the culture we would have would be far better than even the best of today.

>>13642630
This, OP was just asking for it

>>13642610
>NOOOO YOU JUST CAN'T DISLIKE SHITTY CONSUMERIST CULTURE IF I LIKE IT STOP IT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENJOY AWFUL BELOW-THE-CURVE IQ TRASH!!!! DISLIKING MY EPIC FANDOM AND CAPESHIT SERIES IS LITERALLY WHAT HITLER WOULD DO!!!

>>13642008
Is there really any difference? Only the mediums vary, the levels of intellectual engagement and mindless groupthink are exactly the same.

>>13640414
Bend over for me.. let's make make some magic.

>>13642782
what made you like this

>>13643481
Autism, anon. It's always autism.

>>13643481
and what made you waste your life on this hellhole of a site if not autism and inceldom? what a stupid question to ask.

>>13640434
>I'm sure all of those illiterate peasants were familiar with all of the great literary works back then.
Back when only an elite minority were literate, the ability to read was highly valuable and those who could read made sure to make good use of it. Nowadays when even the lowest strata of society can read it has no value whatsoever. Modern man would rather read garbage than something that requires effort to interpret. People even 100 years ago were complaining that the newspaper was replacing the book. Public education was a mistake.

>>13640414
Should've slaughtered the wretches.

>>13640493
>my betrothed
lmao
it's the little things

I fucking hate Thomas Pynchon so much. I just got home after a small occult meeting where our master made us play Thomas Pynchon trivia quiz and all my brothers agreed because they were vile schizophrenics. Even my Other wanted to do that because she's read all those secret books and undergone the rituals. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no astrophysics information besides some from 2-3 very simple fields. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into classicist pre-WWII modernism because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar mysticists.

This truly is the most horrid chronotope.

>>13640443
> peasants have no culture
whelp, guess we'll have to replace them with various peoples who have diverse cultures then

>>13640414
I fucking hate I just got home. Even my girlfriend wanted to. Later on she got genuinely upset.
I knew that there was no point.

>>13643754
This truly is horrid.

>>13643754
>>13643780
It's unironically better prose than most of the board's

>>13640443
This. Mass literacy and public education were a mistake.

>>13640434
>implying this is not what /lit/ wants

>>13643572
Nobody's forcing you to associate with plebs or read their books you fucking whiny cunt. Plebs will always like pleb entertainment; get the fuck over it.

>>13640414
You got 2-3 questions correct? I have bad news...you're a normie.

>I'm so smart! We live in a society

>>13644687
>Implying you haven't read the first book as a kid and don't remember some of the stuff from it

>>13640414
The books are shit, but the movies, specially Half Blood prince, are rad.

>>13641159
They did not, though. Folk Art has always existed and was very strong through the middle ages. It was only as Humanist monarchies started trying to create a unified national taste through the popularization of "high art" that both high art and folk art started to become consumable rather than performative.

So we've gone from Bloom posting to making pastas to defend Rowling's honor. I think it would be best to go read something instead.

Hey /lit/ I normally only browse /tv/, /v/ and sometimes, when I want something new to listen to, /mu/, but I just bought mason and dixon cause I haven't read a book in an embarrassing amount of time and wanted to fix it. This also inspired me to visit this board.

Fuck me, I thought /mu/ was insufferable about what people enjoyed.

>>13644792
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CRITICIZE THIS MEDIOCRE ATTEMPT AS FANTASY YOUNG ADULT FICTION!! TRUE INTELLECTUALS LOVE SLOW BURN WIZARD MOVIES, YOU ARE A HATEFUL PSEUD!!

>>13644815
no they're not

I fucking hate Thomas Pynchon so much. I just got home after a small house party where our host made us play Pynchon trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile bugmen. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid and overwritten books and watched the Simpsons episodes he's in. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into modernist fiction because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar redditors.

>>13644881
Kill yourself you stupid fucking virgin

>>13645043
no

I fucking hate Game of Thrones so much. I just got home after a small house party where our host made us play Games of Thrones trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile bugmen. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid books and watched the movies. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into wholesome fantasy because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar redditors.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13640425
this guys is so far behind the times he doesn't realize we've moved on to hating the normie-hating haters

I fucking hate T.S. Eliot so much. I just got home after a small house party where our host asked us to recite poetry and all the other guests started spouting Modernist jibberish because they were vile bohemians. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid anthologies and watched the films. Later on she got genuinely upset because I couldn't remember anything besides two lines from Gerontion. I knew there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into the Fireside Poets because I'd instantly get booed by these vulgar poseurs.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

I fucking hate Dostoevsky so much. I just got home after a small dinner party where our host made us play The Brothers Karamazov trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were slapdash comedians. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read that ghastly rigmarole and takes his amusing scenes seriously. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into James Joyce because I'd instantly get booed by those claptrap journalists.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13640414
All this but replace all instances of "Harry Potter" with "Finnegans Wake"

Harry Potter is comfy man. My dad read me the first one before I could read much when I was about 5 or 6. I grew up reading them until the last one came out when I was in 8th grade. I was obviously reading higher reading level pulp fiction like Jurassic Park and what not but I still like the series in a nostalgic way. They were your friends you could visit anytime. I think that's all they are to anyone who had them as children. Obviously I don't go so far as to get a fucking triforce tattoo but I still have fond memories of OoT.

>>13645175

>watched the films

top kek

>>13645215
vivid hatred is currently flashing through my mind

>>13642008
That’d be ok I like sports

>>13645222
I fucking hate Finnegans Wake so much. I just got home after a small house party where our host made us play Finnegans Wake trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile bugmen. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all that turgid book and visited Dublin. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into literary fiction because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar redditors.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13641102
That says more about Catholicism really, Orthodoxy never had this this issue

>>13641096
It's my first day on /lit/, as recommended by /biz/. What does YA mean? I keep seeing it

>>13640414
Harry Potter has ruined a generation.

Kill me but I actually like Harry Potter. It’s comfy

>>13640414
How do people like you come into existence? I grew up reading Harry Potter. I still love the books, and I also read and love many classic literary works. Why do people force themselves into a false dichotomy?

>>13645951
Young Adult fiction

>>13645307
based

>>13645019
low effort and cringe

>>13640443
>>13643710
Peasants had their own culture much better in some ways. Poorfag culture and mass culture (based off raping the corpse of European aristocratic culture for profitable nuggets) are unrelated to it and much worse. Probably the saddest thing of the modern world.

>>13644799
I literally haven't. The phenomenon occurred just a little too late to interest me. My younger cousins all read the whole series. But I haven't seen any of the movies or read any of the books. Same goes for Lord of the Rings, which was extremely popular (again) around the same time.

>>13646901
Well, that's fine, and it's normal that people bit older than you have read some of the books and/or watched the movie, which is why they know something ("something"). The real issue is gender studies majors who read Buzzfeed as their only source of news, draw parallels between HP and politics, and don't know how to cook or behave in public yet know answers to 95% of questions in HP trivia quiz.

>>13641599
what is mpc

>>13645215
gigerkek very nice

>>13647142
Can't agree with the last sentence more.

>>13643572
Memes books have been popular since the time of the printing press if not before.

>>13643514
Personally I got here because of an interest in higher mathematics.

>>13640414
Vile, turgid, vulgar, horrid...wc

>>13643572
>>13641096
Based and Ubermenchpilled. The aristocratic and elitist stance are the only correct ones to hold.

ARISTODEMUS: He fucking hates rhetoric so much. We had just wandered to a resting-place after a symposion where our host made us recite speeches and all the other guests agreed because they were ignorant poets. Even Alcibiades wanted to do that because he had memorized all those arguments and watched the debates. Later on Alcibiades got genuinely upset because Socrates knew no rhetorical devices besides the ones with 2-3 simple manual trades. He knew that there was no point in reminding Alcibiades that he's only into allowing Truth to seize his vessel because he'd instantly get put on trial by those noble orators.

APOLLODORUS: This truly is the most harmful age.

>>13640414
I fucking hate Thomas Pynchon so much. I just got home after a small wacky circus party where our host made us eat banana pudding dressed as clowns and do a trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile degenerates. Even my shemale girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid books. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into cartoon funnies from the tely because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar /lit/ards and /tv/

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13643705
>>13645019
>>13648581
So... who wins?

>>13643481
Not him but pic related. How can one sift through shit and find nice things when an army of retards is in your way due to capitalist corruption? Only the sheep will be advertised to. 4chan has always hated normalfaggots for good reasons.

Think about it faggot. The garbage pervades so much it inhibits the mental health of the non-retarded. Call being intelligent autism though, go ahead, because the strawman tactic totally works (on sheep).

>>13645008
>wtf I love obvious bait from random namefags!

>>13642630
>Is there a bigger sign of a brainlet pseud than to make friends who you don't share interests with
you're forced to do this though

>>13647971
>Antiquity
>even the fucking plebs could recite the Iliad
>modern world
>harry potter is the highest level of literature for most people

>>13640689
How was shanara though?

My 40-years old female relative who is avid reader thinks Harry Potter is best shit ever, despite having read most of western canon. She is also a huge lefty, blood type diet advocate and thinks Hunger Games is accurate representation of what would happen after societal collapse.

>>13640414
>finnegans wake

>>13640566
holy kek

>>13645307
Can you imagine having friends that are obsessed with great literature as much as bugmen are obsessed with capeshit and Harry Potter? My life would be complete, and I would hold on to them with dear life. I don't know a single person who reads classics except Austen and a few other mediocre British authors that have been unaccountably venerated.

>>13650020
Pls b my friend
The only people I have had decent convos with in my life apart from my brothers are a Marxist Egyptologist and some Italian guy I met in a bar in Porto once.

>>13640414
Honestly, why do you spend time with people you hate? I doubt fucking Harry Potter is the thing that is getting you riled up enough to make a blog on 4chan.

>>13650533
I feel him though, it's been the only book I've heard being discussed by any of my friends the past months, and even by four different friend groups it has been brought up. A literal cancer.

>>13640431
>still calling them bugmen

>>13650585
There seem to be enough of you here who loathe Harry Potter. Why not just find friends who share your passion for not liking this particular series? There's bound to be other contrarians with an inflated sense of taste in your area!

>>13640414
It's a children's book with a slightly above average plot and story. There's tons of plot holes in it. Like time travel, absolute hypnosis.
Only the riff raff can't handle that truth. Their book is held together with glitter glue and duct tape in regards to the plot.
If Harry Potter universe were real. It would not play out like the book, and that's why the author failed the series and the followers are brainz goblins.

>>13646667
because the culture of the majority, of the lowest common denominator insists on parading something trivial and low quality as sacred. It's like idol worship, or insisting that a shiny ball of dung is the same as a polished sphere of marble. Disliking things because they're common isn't commendable because it hinges on evaluating a material based on its reception (a cucked and faggy way to go about things), but being able to judge things is part of having a soul. Judging the Hary Potter (C) franchise as disgusting is a sign of Pneuma.

>>13650727
Why not just find a subreddit who shares your passion for defending this particular series? There's bound to be other NPCs with no taste whatsoever in your area!

>>13640414
I fucking hate Kantianism so much. I just got home after a small luncheon where our host made us critique the conditions of the possibility of knowledge of the categories of understanding and all the other guests agreed because they were vile Fichteans. Even my wife wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid grundwerkes and attended the lectures. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple amphibolies. I knew there was no point reminding her that I'm only into Leibniz-wolffianism because I'd get instantly booed by those vulgar indifferentists.

This truly is the most horrid best possible world

>>13648156
Incredible post

>>13650727
I'm not saying it's bad taste, I'm just saying it's sad that it's such a monoculture. I thought diversity was our strength?

>>13640414
>waaah waaah mommyyyy im speeshuuuul mommy you always said i was speshiuuuuuul why dont the other kids think im special mommy waaah

I've never read Harry Potter or watched Fight Club for the same reason. The fans were incredibly obnoxious and cringy when they came out and I don't want my soul associated with it.

>>13640434
>I'm sure all of those illiterate peasants were familiar with all of the great literary works back then.
And yet they'd still be more interesting than talking about the latest manchild fascination.

I fucking hate continentals so much. I just got home after a small house party where our host made us play french philosophers trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile bugmen. Even my girlfriend wanted to do that because she's read all those turgid books and watched the documentaries. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no answers besides the ones to 2-3 very simple questions. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into analytical metaphysics because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar deconstructionists.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13648860
You sound like the most bitter cunt in existence. Fandoms are horrible wastes of time yet you still ended up worse than the worst of Tumblr.

>>13647242
My Posting Career, it's a BBS forum for the most fart huffing of reactionaries

>>13650020
you're so cool and unique

>>13653124
You sound like an autist who takes every word with complete sincerity.

>>13640414
>have a girlfriend
>she's a fucking retarded normie
>worst timeline amirite gais
Choke on a dick you fucking faggot

>>13654248
Why is all incel rage the same?

Literally every single one says the very same things and phrases his arguments in the same way. It's ridiculous.

>>13641096
bro, you're a spiritual peasant unless you've got millions of dollars. no bother pretending you're more just because you read fancy words on a piece of wood.

>>13648156
Nice.

>>13640414
I fucking hate Lev Tolstoy so much. I just got home after a small nameday party where our host made us play a Tolstoy trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile slavicists. Even my babushka wanted to do that because she's read all those humongous russian novels and studied Tolstoy's religious pamphlets. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew none of those complicated russian names besides Anna Karenina. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into Shakespeare plays because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar tolstoyans.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13654558
much better

I fucking hate reading so much. I just got home after a small book club gathering where our host made us play a literature trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were vile . Even my Cybils Award winning niece wanted to do that because she's read The Great Gatsby and studied Bukowski . Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew none of those real fucking basic shit. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into Game of Thrones shows because I'd instantly get booed by those vulgar bibliophiles.

This truly is the most horrid timeline.

>>13640414
People who hate harry potter are the fedora tippers of literature. You are vile. I am disgusted by your thoughts.

>>13640414
i still can't figure out how to "be myself lol" and stay in touch with those normies. I just cannot act like I'm into whatever shit trend they're spouting currently. Our minds are literally not on the same wavelength, and I well never feel comfortable around them knowing that they don't understand me and I don't understand them.

but honestly, normie is too general and vague a term. just call them intellectually average people.
Although I've been surrounded by autists and genuine 130 IQ+ bright kids all my life, so I'm probably too out of touch to comment on it in any useful way.

>>13640414
I fucking hate Saint Thomas Aquinas so much. I just returned to my domicile after a tiresome soiree where our host made us play Summa Theologica trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were well educated scholastics. Even my soon-to-be betrothed wanted to participate because she's read all the Summa and the Catechism and Scripture and she even started with the Greeks. Later on she was genuinely upset because I had displayed such hubris and disdain for those works which are good and true and beautiful and without moral error. I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into left-handed hermeticism and reddit because I'd instantly get booed by those vile papists.

I fucking hate Haruki Murikami so much. I just got back to my apartment in Tokyo after a small house party where our host made us play a Murikami trivia quiz and all the other guests agreed because they were confined to the conscience realm. Even my older mistress wanted to do that because she's listened to all those forgotten jazz records and had the historical flashbacks. Later on she got genuinely upset because I knew no psychologists besides t 2-3 very simple thinkers . I knew that there was no point in reminding her that I'm only into literary fiction because I'd instantly get booed by those mentally ill bugmen.

This truly is the most horrid dream.

>>13654632
Add something after "vile" and replace "vulgar" with something more fitting, like "pretentious", and it's a solid 8/10 pasta. Otherwise, 6.5/10

>>13652381
Fight Club actually has its moments.

>>13642439
fucking EPIC