/lit/ - Literature

>>13622764
Change it to far lefties assassinating innocent working class and proclaiming to end the patriarchy and I’m in

>>13622777
That's idiotic and paradoxical. Is your point "yeah idiotic and paradoxical, just like the left huehue"?

The first person to be killed is a Jeff Bezos like character. The richest man in the world. The poster child for capitalism.

The next day the first video is posted to Facebook, Youtube, 4chan and other platforms demanding a redistribution of wealth through the implementation of a global universal basic income to allow all individuals to live the lives they desire “rather than in service to the bourgeoisie, making work optional rather than exploitative” or the killings will continue. Of course no one complies, billionaires begin fleeing to their boltholes, and the assassinations continue.

I’m thinking the first page would be a description of the first body being found decapitated to evoke the French Revolution with EAT THE RICH written in blood on the wall above it.

It would be difficult for this organisation to gain access to such a wealthy individuals abode however, what with all the security they would have in place, so perhaps an old school assassination with a sniper rifle would be more appropriate. But that has less literary resonance to me. What are your thoughts?

But the far right is the one that’s had mass shooters and crazies trying to assassinate those in power? Why not write out what happens if the alt right wins? Then you’ll be seen as a prophet in a few years. Why not accelerate?

>>13623016
>Trying to assassinate those in power

Like who? Most of the right are cucks for the elite and do what their rhetoric insists I.e. killing off immigrants and non-christians

>>13623016
>But the far right is the one that’s had mass shooters and crazies trying to assassinate those in power?
Have there been assassination attempts by the alt-right? I thought they just shot up innocent civilians. I suppose I want to show how absurd people's concerns about the radical left are compared to the threat of the right given that this sort of thing doesn't happen. But there probably are people on the left this extreme.

>>13622777
Unrealistic. Those tumblrite socdem idpol dumbasses don't have the work ethic to do anything except complain; only real communists could conceivably start a movement or organization which has any real effect on our day to day life, as we can see they have in the past

That would be a gross misrepresentation of the far-left though

>>13622823
I'd suggest reading up on actual Marxist theory before starting to describe the system of thought of these supposed communists; no Marxist advocates for UBI as UBI does not abolish capital, it only moves it around

>>13623016
The far right have only been incels that shot up innocent people

>>13622764
Nobody in the real world would understand what the fuck you were talking about.

>>13623210
This is why I said far-left instead of Marxist or communist, they are neither, although they sympathise with Marx's conception of class struggle. They don't want to seize the means of production they are merely in favour of equality of opportunity and radical wealth redistribution and will stop at nothing in achieving this end.

>>13622764
>>13622823
Ok, but only if you make pic related your main character.

>>13623221
Really? Killing rich powerful people is a pretty normie fantasy I would imagine. Different political groups in America has been talking about what op wrote for decades

>>13622764
Only if it's revealed it was a right-wing organization the whole time false flagging as leftists to push society away from self-destructive leftish policies. Everyone loves "chaotic good" villains.

>>13623209
>Implying the far-left is monolithic
What makes you think this is a gross misinterpretation of the left? I agree that the majority of the left would find such a proposal abhorrent if that's what you mean.

That you would want to write that now, when both the far left and far right in America are placid simulations of what they were in the 1910s and 1970s, is amusing. Just read some of the literature already out there about far left terrorism, like Doris Lessing's The Good Terrorist.

>>13623234
If anything he would be the leader of a far-right group set on destroying the postmodern neo-marxists once and for all.

>>13623253
Just read the plot summary, interesting stuff. I still prefer my idea however.

>>13622764
Sounds like a novella not a short story

>>13623225
That's retarded, if they want that so badly they could just protest and campaign for it if the organization is decently sized. It's coming into the mainstream now what with Yang, Bernie, Warren and AOC people are going to realize that some form of social democracy is necessary for the survival of capitalism farther into the 21st century

>>13622799
>Is your point "yeah idiotic and paradoxical, just like the left huehue"?
Unironically yeah

The left attacks the working class in the name of patriarchy in real life, that’s why it would be worth reading.

>>13623134
>>13623159
>>13623217

>An avowed Donald Trump supporter in southern Florida was charged on Friday with sending pipe bombs to critics of the president, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

>Thirteen of the devices were mentioned on a federal criminal complaint. A 14th device was reported by the billionaire Tom Steyer, who has called for Trump’s impeachment.

>Cesar Sayoc was arrested at an auto parts shop in the city of Plantation on Friday morning. His white van, which was covered in stickers celebrating Republicans and denouncing the president’s opponents, was parked outside.

>Asked why most of Sayoc’s alleged targets were Democrats, Sessions said: “He appears to be a partisan.” A court filing said the stickers covering Sayoc’s van included “images critical of CNN”, the TV station frequently derided by Trump, whose New York studios were the target of two bombs.

>The packages found on Friday were sent to two senators, Cory Booker of New Jersey and Kamala Harris of California; to James Clapper, a former director of national intelligence. Steyer, a donor to Democratic groups, said an additional suspect package addressed to him was intercepted in Burlingame, California.

>>13623867
>they could just protest
It's a small fringe organisation. Protesting would be pointless in that it would never cause billionaires to redistribute the their wealth. And I agree that social democracy is gaining more mainstream support which is heartening, but forgiving student loans and implementing single-payer healthcare would be considered paltry in comparison by this organisation when juxtaposed with what they seek to accomplish.

>>13623929
So, one guy?

good ol' brigate rosse and baader-meinhof gang

Man I can't wait until we can use drones and remote work to significantly cuck the economic effects of protesting.

“Jesus Christ”
“Yeap.”
The flash from forensic photographer’s DSLR briefly illuminates the room.
“Haven’t seen anything this fucked up since ‘86”
“Some Dahlia level shit.”
“No one touched the head?”
“Everything’s untouched. The only person in here was his wife. Still hysterical.”
“Yeah, no shit.”
Her wails erupt once more from the downstairs foyer.
“Think that’s actually his blood?”
“If they were willing to decapitate him I don’t see why it wouldn’t be.”
“Fucking hell.”
“Yeap.”
“The forensic team took a sample.”
The cries become louder.
“Someone get her out of her.”
“On it.”
“Eat the rich.”
“Rousseau”
“What?”
“Jean Jacque-Rousseau. ”
A quisical glance.
“I-I majored in political philosophy.”
“You didn’t major in forensics?”
“Double major.”
“So what does it mean? Fuck rich people?”
“When the people have nothing to eat, they will eat the rich.”
“So this is about… inequality?”
“I… maybe?”
“This guy… Roo…”
“Rousseau.”
“Yeah. Rousseau. What’s his deal?”
“Uh, he was a philosopher of the enlightenment. Wrote during the French Revolution.”
“I guess that explains the decapitation.”
“How?”
“You know, the French Revolution?”
“Some of us were getting laid in high school, Massey.”
“Fucking hell. Do you know what a guillotine is at least?”

>>13622764
Change this to far-lefties and far-righties forming a coalition to revolt against capitalism by forming autonomous terror cells that target key tech and media CEO's, developers, and HQs, as well as government buildings and explicit neoliberal politicians.

>>13624096
Yes. I like the rhetoric of a guy in a guy fawkes mask saying "We are neither right nor left. We are progress." It has echos of national socialism.

>>13624135
>being a leftist and hating capitalism makes you a communist, but it's totally not okay to hate capitalism as a rightist because that makes you a nazi.

>>13624179
That's not what I said at all. My point was that National Socialism combines nationalism, typically associated with the right, and socialism, typically associated with the left, maximising populist appeal.

>>13624245
>socialism good
>unless national socialism
>therefore nazi

>>13622799
It's not :idiotic and paradoxical" that's actually what the left does. They love the working class but not the working class that opposes them. There, solved it for you.

>>13622777
Genial idea

>>13624255
National Socialism is literally Nazism. Thanks the self-portrait.

atlas shrugged?

>>13623899
okay retard

>>13622764
sounds like pulp, only if theres a white guy named tyrone and luts of crude vulgarity

>>13624255
Do you not know what the word Nazi is short for?

>>13624490
Yeah, pulp is what I'm going for.

>>13623899
doesn't rightists around here celebrated the lasts mass killing and that guy shoting that mosque in the name of gods know what?

>>13622823
started and commie pilled.
Okay I havent but this sounds fun

>>13624090
Silence.
“How did they get in?”
“You assume multiple assailants?”
“You’re saying you're entertaining the possibility that a guy singlehandedly broke into a gated community, bypassed the security system of the fucking richest man in the world, and had time to kill him, literally cut his fucking head off, and write some French philosophy bullshit on the walls in his fucking blood, without waking his wife?”
“...Yeah?”
“I think you should've stuck to studying guillotines.”

Later.
“Do we have the security footage?”
“No.”
“I thought they were sending it over.”
“They did.”
“And?”
“There’s nothing on the tape.”
“What?”
“IT says it could’ve been a hack.”
“Bullshit.”
“It’s all in the cloud these days. Apparently.”
“You expect me to believe we’re dealing with homocidal computer scientist philosophers?”
“It’s politically motivated. It has to be an organisation of some sort.”
“Whoever they are, they’re sophisticated.”
“Since when is decapitation sophisticated?”
“You know what I meant.”

>>13622764
>assassinating wealthy individuals
that sounds like justice, not terror

This sounds like the baseline plot for an ultra-chad Tom Clancy-esque protagonist to fuck your character's shit up completely. Would read if you included that.

>>13625267
Done. He gets murdered horrifically once the reader accepts him as the protagonist.

>>13622764
Put in near the end that they're actually being bankrolled by foreign companies and intelligence agencies who are benefiting from the panic and are filling in the power void.

>>13622764

Instead OP, let's just openly discuss the assassination of Jeff Bezos in this thread. Let's stop with the euphemisms.

>>13625303
>it was Soros all along

>>13625344
Great, now we're all on the watchlist.

killing people doesn't fix problems. bezos made his money because he offered a cheaper product.

write a book about how greed destroys humanity.

>>13625451
It does of this organisation successfully blackmails billionaires into redistributing their wealth, does it not?

>>13625448

Why don't you want to conspire for the assassination of Jeff Bezos, anon?

>>13622764
No, because I've already read it by reading the news and browsing the web daily.

i've always thought it was funny that the left has no magnetic ideological death meme the way the right does, considering the fact that left-leaning academia literally came out of tenure-culture making the psycho thinkers (of the time) immune to getting fired.

i think a story like this would be neat if you could convince the reader that far-left groups did have something like that, which attracted individuals who were far left-leaning and socially isolated. instead of killing their friends, coworkers, whatever, they fixate on the rich, probably with some fun ironic stuff about gun rights in the US (some aspect of the assassination is embarrassing or shameful to gun proponents).

>>13622823
Sounds cringe bro. Nobody wants to read a hamfisted moral story. An underlying moral message is fine but the story should actually be good and not some leftist's turner diaries.
Other things to consider:
>jeff bezos is very liberal and so are the majority of the american elites
>socialism doesnt work

>>13624490
Gravity's Rainbow?

>>13625466
billionaires don't have enough wealth, if you take it all you can run america for 1 year without taxes, then all their money runs out.

lets say they have 10 trillion dollars (they have more like 1.2, but lets say theyre hiding a lot more). so you take 10 trillion, well america spends about 5 trillion per year and the deficit is growing. the rest of the world spends a lot more than what you have left over, but say you stretch it thin. now its 2021 and you have no more billionaires and the same problems as before.

>>13626257
B-BUT MUH JUSTICE

>>13622823
>kill the richest man alive, who was using his wealth to bring humanity to space
>to fund consumerism
Nice

The thought makes me feel placid and bored

>>13626257
During those couple years of spending the HTC vive and oculus guys probably became billionaires, so we can off them next

Sounds alright although I’d be more interested in reading it if it focused on the imagined assassinations of the real life billionaires, would give it more edge. Kind of like Libra in reverse.

>>13622764
>far-left terrorist organisation that begins assassinating wealthy individuals
Ah, just blame the rich people.
One stone crumbles and another takes its place and the temple holds its form for a thousand years or more.

Now this is massively based

枪杆子里面出政权

>>13626257
Taxation wouldn't stop. The country would contine to run as normal and on top of that you could redistribute trillions of dollars.

>>13626356
Not to fund consumerism, alleviate poverty. People are starving to death while he builds those rockets.

>>13625663
>hamfisted moral story
Hardly. It's extremely morally ambiguous. They are doing something good from a utilitarian perspective but reprehensible from a Kantian one. I'm not advocating for such a thing, I'm exploring the idea because it makes for an interesting and provocative story.

>>13625663
>jeff bezos is very liberal and so are the majority of the american elites
Yeah, bezos is actually pretty cool. But he is still hoarding wealth, underpaying his workers, and has yet to sign the giving pledge.
>socialism doesnt work
I never said it did.

>>13626513
It's more that, from the perspective of this organisation, that money could be better spent elsewhere.

>>13622764
>far left
>harming billionaires
Who do you think funds them? They don't bite the hand that feeds.

>>13627213
>who do you think funds them
neoliberals and republicans

>>13626743
it's just not enough money. the problems are structural, the government spends too much money on war and not enough on public works and the education and health care systems are corrupt and bloated. it's a question of priorities, americans don't care enough about each other to form political parties that would use actual scientists and engineers to create a 10-20-30 year plan for rebuilding america and creating a new energy grid. they'd rather argue abortion, gun control and lobbying.

>>13626750
Who's starving? People in south sudan and somalia? Let's hope we have enough billionaires to assassinate

this terrorist organization should be started by 4chan

>>13624625

Yup. Also right wing trump nuts that did the last two mass shootings. Also Trump was laughing on stage about shooting mexicans.

>>13627213
The far left are the only ones challenging corporate hegemony, but ok.
https://berniesanders.com/anti-endorsements/

>>13623016
NPC

>>13624090
>>13625169
This isn't a story.
This is dialogue.
It's like it's a script for a movie, manga, comic book or similar.

>>13627300
>it's just not enough money
A few hundred billion redistributed to the impoverished would be more than just a drop in the bucket.
>the problems are structural, the government spends too much money on war and not enough on public works and the education and health care systems are corrupt and bloated. it's a question of priorities, americans don't care enough about each other to form political parties that would use actual scientists and engineers to create a 10-20-30 year plan for rebuilding america and creating a new energy grid. they'd rather argue abortion, gun control and lobbying.
I don't think it's because American's don't care, I think they're just ushered towards arguing over abortion, gun control, and lobbying by the public discourse. But otherwise, I generally agree with your point. However a novella about a level headed political party emerging that actually used rationalism and empiricism to radically reform the American government isn't as deliciously salacious as a terrorist organisation taking a blunt force utilitarian approach to global inequity.

>>13627344
As wealth and education increase we will see a downward curve like with Asia. The Bill and Malinda Gates Foundation has good data on this.

>>13627435
>Implying stories can't be told through dialogue.
Description is overrated.

>>13622799
welcome to the reality, people can hold paradoxical sets of beliefs enjoy your stay