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/lit/ - Literature

>>13603951
>fanged noumena is a book cuz it hurts my feelings
Lmao shut up stupid ape ass nigger

>>13603932
Don't know if you think you are a leftist, if you do, you may wanna reconsider what you just wrote, becouse it's all wrong

>>13603932
Holy christ Anon, that shit reads like Timothy Leary wrote that while tripping on that bad "brown acid" from the Woodstock daze.
Trump is actually a Dem trojan horse that infiltrated the republican party (initially, as a joke), but the farce was taken as reality by politically delusional people, and the joke became reality. Trumps only goals is to push things so far beyond the norm that the Overton Window becomes the Overton Grand Canyon.

>>13604853
>Trump is actually a Dem trojan horse that infiltrated the republican party (initially, as a joke), but the farce was taken as reality by politically delusional people, and the joke became reality. Trumps only goals is to push things so far beyond the norm that the Overton Window becomes the Overton Grand Canyon.
Centrist conspiracy theories are literally the dumbest shit
>inb4 muh pied piper
The pied piper strategy literally just meant making the most retarded republicans running get the most airtime on CNN and msnbc coverage where the Clintons have a ton of pull and it also included ted Cruz and Ben Carson, it wasn't some "anointment" of Trump by Hillary

>>13603932
>off-topic post has been up for 10 hours now
Mods, do your jobs

ENCAMP LAND
BEFORE HE GO NUCLEAR

>>13605431
Wot m8

>>13605383
Pied piper strategy was also indicative of just how fucking clueless Hillary Clinton was about her strengths, Trump's weaknesses, and what American voters wanted. Trump was the only *tolerable* candidate that stood a chance at shaking things up running in the GOP that year. Nobody came even close. And Hillary Clinton was an unfathomably weak candidate--Trump wouldn't have stood a chance against Obama. With that strategy, all she did was fuck over herself and her establishment cronies.

>he thinks that the prez can actually make a difference
ISHYGDDT

>>13605575
OP's point is that with Trump as president he literally embodies every worst nightmare or liberal college feminists who previously kept to the campus and thus forced them into the streets. I feel like the pussyhat shit and the #metoo movement show that in a sense this is true but all of that shit is just liberal activism at the end of the day so I doubt it will make a difference or "accelerate" anything like op says

>>13605592
as if the president even matters. look at American culture in early 2009 and what it became by early 2017. almost 100% unrecognizable.
>left-wing president: activism intensifies
>right-wing president: activism intensifies
really makes you think about accelerationism.

>>13605550
>Pied piper strategy was also indicative of just how fucking clueless Hillary Clinton was about her strengths, Trump's weaknesses, and what American voters wanted. Trump was the only *tolerable* candidate that stood a chance at shaking things up running in the GOP that year. Nobody came even close. And Hillary Clinton was an unfathomably weak candidate--Trump wouldn't have stood a chance against Obama. With that strategy, all she did was fuck over herself and her establishment cronies.
It really is amazing that someone who is conniving and cunning enough to have half of her inner circle murdered, cover for all her pedo friends for years, and collude with the media to steal the primary from Bernie Sanders (and then get him to cuck out and endorse her) didn't have the foresight to think "maybe I shouldn't alienate both the average person and the left-liberal activists who might have actually voted for me by being the most unlikable person ever"

>>13605600
The only real activism that happened outside of college campuses was black lives matters rallies during the Obama years, Obama pretty much obliterated the antiwar movement and let the FBI infiltrate occupy and strangle it in the crib.

Whereas with Trump America's been more like France where there's literally protesting happening every week and now the Dems basically have their version of the Tea Party happening. Like I said none of it is really radical and it'll probably all go away once Trump is out of office but if you don't see a difference in both the scale and content of activism happening now compared to the Obama years idk what to tell you m8

>>13605609
people are spending time protesting Kavanaugh and shit. big deal. that's not the "activism" i care about, because it doesn't change anything. meanwhile, all of this social justice bullshit had been simmering during the Obama years and had become mainstream by the middle of his second-term. I don't see much of a difference in terms of cultural impact between 2014 and today. but the difference between 2019 and 2009 is like night and day.

>>13603932
Good post, though essentially identical to Zizek's reason for saying he would've voted for Trump.

Do you think that things might've been different if Bernie had run instead of Hilary? or is Trump the fire that must refine us before we can effectuate radical change?

>>13603932
Acceleration is by far the dumbest philosophical strategy I've ever heard.
It's contingent on the presuppositions to be true:
>your current worldview is a correct and universal assessment
>the acceleration will lead to a collapse endpoint
>the endpoint will produce a desire outcome
If any of these suppositions are wrong, then you failed; most likely making your life and the lives of others worse off because of your actions.

It's the strategy of losers who has no better alternative because their ideas sucked and no one bought into them. You may as well be a quisling.

>>13605619
Okay but your point was that there's been no difference. Now you are saying there has but it doesn't matter which I agree with

>>13605620
The only way Trump could trigger an actual uprising that could fundamentally change things is if he gets reelected and the inevitable economic crash happens early in his 2nd term

I don't see that happening though because the markets been pretty resilient even with the trade war shit and Trump will probably take a knee in 2020 and then the economy will crash early into whatever dem wins and the media will blame it on the Left thus starting the whole cycle over again

>>13605685
Accelerationists who actually understand the philosophy and aren't just meming don't have a "desired outcome" beyond reaching a singularity point which none of them really articulate. I feel like you've misunderstood the theory by getting all your info about it from 4chan shitposts

>>13605708
No I understand it, I just don't think you do.
You have no proof that a singularity point will emerge.
For all you know, it's never-ending abyss or hits a stagnation point where accelerating effects require more-and-more effort that become asymptotic i.e. a stagnation.

Again, I want to stress that you can't prove a singularity WILL occur. It's a guess. A gamble.

>>13605741
>Again, I want to stress that you can't prove a singularity WILL occur. It's a guess. A gamble.
So is literally all political philosophy?
I could say the same thing about communism, fascism, social democracy, liberalism etc

>>13605752
At least those are more grounded in applied reality.
Hoping for huge events to occur based on linear extrapolation of trends is silly and pseud-pilled. For all you know we're headed toward a tech stagnation as we hit the boundaries of our physical limitations; all the low hanging fruit has been plucked and we can't make transistors smaller than atoms.

Take your techno-goggles off and ask yourself what has really changed in 20 years? Slightly smaller phones? Slightly faster computers? Glorified automated cruise-control?
You're fell into hype and techno-fetishism. Familiarize yourself with the counter-arguments than just by into this pseudo-metaphysical bandwagon. Then make your decisions. Just remember that Capital can be dumb too: fooled into buying junk-bonds, sub-prime derivatives and tulips.

https://blog.piekniewski.info/2018/05/28/ai-winter-is-well-on-its-way/

>>13605805
>capital can be dumb too
That's part of the program u dip

>Literature

>>13605828
Do you people think literature just means novels that Harold bloom enjoys?

>>13605815
Accelerate it some more buy dumping all your capital into Ben Goertzel's shitcoin scheme. Watch as your capital can pull a disappearing act and magically vanish out of thin air!

>>13605862
Seriously though, watch this interview and every time Goertzel uses the term 'AI', replace it with "magic".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qfB8clUIaY

It's a scam. One big fucken investment scam taking shekels from wealthy tech-illiterate rubes.
I'm looking forward to the Dot Com Bubble 2.0 popping.

>>13605862
>>13605887
>accelerationism is a scam
Lmao this is the worst take I have ever seen on this board take your meds boomer

>>13605431
Chinese government is working on it as we speak

>>13605990

>>13605990
>one week
he dead

>>13605887
AI doesn't need to be conscious to eat us alive. Why are armchair philosophers strawmanning AI by free will arguments? Machines don't work that way, yet can wield immense autonomous power. Should read more Kafka.

>>13606127
Dafuq you reading? Where did I talk about AI "consciousness" and AI "free will".
I don't believe there's gonna be AI at all, just expert systems using heuristics masquerading as AI for increased investment.

>you should read more [x]
you should think for yourself and articulate your own thoughts rather than constantly defer to others.

>>13606150
>Where did I talk about AI "consciousness" and AI "free will".
You didn't, your "youtube argument" does.
>expert systems using heuristics masquerading
It's not the 1970s anymore, these are no longer explicitly man made decision trees. Ok, Kafka is too hard. I guess we need to stick to youtube to support an argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9OHn5ZF4Uo

>>13606195
Who are you arguing against here? Seriously?
What does Kafka have to do with anything we're talking about: perhaps you can "narrow it down" to state your point rather than nebulously non-dropping something you read in high school.
Maybe take the extra effort and demonstrate how Kafka is applicable to the topic at hand. Or perhaps I should go read Kafka's entire body of work hoping to decipher what you're point is...
>It's not the 1970s anymore
No it is. These techniques were pioneered in the 1960s and 70s and haven't really progressed that much outside side of some new architectural attempts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_machine_learning
This is nothing new, just another round of chucking investment at hype; which will lead to another AI Winter just like in the 70s, 80s, and 90s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter

Also, you have to be 18+ to post here anon.