/lit/ - Literature

>>13549803
The Holy Bible

>>13549803
Imperium

>>13549803
Daodejing

>>13549819
This but ironically and almost entirely just to piss people off.

>>13549803
Simulacra and Simulation

>>13549897
>>13549819
Billions have read this...hardly wise or estoeric

Investigation on the process of Logolysis

Unironically read “mediations on the tarot” each page is packed with dense wisdom, one of the greatest books ive ever read

If you want something more pedestrian maybe the masnavi

>>13549803
The Avatamsaka sutra. It's an absolute monster of a sutra, clocking in at more than 1500 pages.

>>13549928
But if all these people had truly read it, if even one of them had understood it completely, the world would be changed. Most people are lucky to read even one sentence of the Bible in perfect clarity. And yet, we can see by such a wonderful outpouring of faith, that even the dim reflection of its beautiful truth is enough to water to world.

>>13549803
>Finnegans Wake

>>13549803
The speeches of Adolf Hitler

The Passion According to G.H. by Clarice Lispector

The Angel of the West Window by Gustav Meyrink

>>13550046
Good choice.
>>13550028
Not looking for layman.
>>13550089
I'm not interested in the thoughts of Jews in Tudor tier English. Whenever someone say 'THY LORD' or anything I cringe. If the Bible was abstracted from what it is then it would probably constitutte an explanation for Logos.

>>13549897
The Tao Te is unfortunately not translated properly. To properly understand it one has to know the Chinese language.
This rule applies also to any sacred book written in any other language.

>>13550242
Best translation?

>>13549928
Billions have read it. Thousands have used excerpts from it to justify their actions. Hundreds have truly understood it.

>who has understood it
Those who have lived it

>>13550273
What is the best part of the bible or tao?

>>13550154
Meditations on the tarot isnt layman at all, if you aren’t hard into this kind of stuff it isn’t for you

>>13550273
Based

>>13550379
tarot...really dude?

>>13550046
Absolutely based. Mahayana sutras are on of the most profound texts I have ever encountered. You should also check the Diamond Sutra and Vimalakirti Sutra if you haven't

>>13550402
Why are you asking for suggestions if you aren’t willing to read? I’m not saying the tarot is deep mysticism, I’m saying this book is. Focusing on the most superficial element, the title, is a pretty good hint that this type of literature isn’t for you. Maybe do a bit of research on the book or better yet actually read some of it?

>>13549803
the avesta

>>13549803
The Rose of the World by Andreyev
Baltasar's book of Wisdom
The cloud of unknowing
A general account of bonding
The Philokalia

>>13550423
Dont have time to read bad books, Sum it up?

>>13550457
based

>>13549803
this

https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

>>13549911
Just reading this now. Not sure what I think of it yet. Definitely more mature than Systems of Symbols, and it's almost prophetic at times, but I think it's gonna need a reread.

>>13550418
>>13550046
Translations you’d recommend?

>>13550460
doesn’t matter then, brainlet

>>13550485
Ah come on man, you recommend me a 600 page book and you won't tell me what its about?

>>13550252
Sadly there isn't. The issue is that Chinese is an analytical language, one character can have multiple meanings. Sometimes multiple meanings apply at the same time which gives the book two truths at once. Plus some characters are not translatable because they serve as a substitute for punctuation. Most translations focus on making it an artistic poem that rhymes when it is just a dry instructional prose. Passages that literally say:
>If you do A, then B happens.
>If you do C, then D happens.
are translated as
>Always we must do A, and not C,
>for there is nothing good in D and B is best.

>>13550492
Sad to hear, I did find some wisdom in the englsih translation. Cant say ill be learning chinese anytime soon

But I'm the one who's mentioned
>Plotinus' Enneads
90% of the times.

>>13550402
> Interested in literature
> No credence to symbols
>>13550460
> Reads through others' words
>>13550488
> Is intimidated by size

You really are a brainlet

>>13550530
Only a brainlet would read 600 pages without any reason to do so. Perhaps give me some.
>>13550525
based choice

>>13550516
It is just the age old debate on translations in general. You either translate everything word to word focusing on pinpointing the precise meaning. Or you just do a free translation, while preserving the meaning.

Both should provide the same result but it all depends on the type of work.

There is similar case with the Bible especially the Old testament. In the Hebrew language, which is also analytical, the letter "wa" is among other things used as a connector "and" in a sentence, but it is also used as a punctuation marking the end of the sentence.
There are many sentences translated like this:
>And this happened...
>And that happened...
>And Jesus said...
which is sadly incorrect. Doesn't change the meaning of the work. To be sure however, one would still have to read it in the Hebrew language, because if you don't, you will have endless debate about why it is written in Genesis:
>And God said: Let US make a man
When the Hebrew Elohim translated has a meaning of "those who are under an oath" said.

>>13550633
>"those who are under an oath"

strange

>>13550650
https://archive.org/details/keytohebrewscrip00prosrich/page/xxiv

Third word

Carlos Castaneda’s body of work.

>>13550478
The only complete English translation that is available is the one made by Thomas Cleary. It's far from perfect, but it's more than nothing.

>>13550741
I dont doubt you. Its difficult to find Jesus real teachings too.

>>13550786
Even if they were found, people are still at mercy of the translator, who may or may not have a certain agenda, or his understanding may be limited.

This is why language learning is encouraged.

>>13550402
>He doesn't know the Tarot deck is Hermetic and the lost key to all worldly wisdom.

>>13549803
Finnegans Wake

Sotos' work from the early 2000s onward has been pretty helpful to me I suppose. Very niche selection of people who would actually benefit from it unfortunately.

>>13550913
Σλιτ γιορ θροουτ

>>13549803
The Wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach
Proverbs

Tao Te Ching

>>13549803
Gathas (Piloo Nanavutty translation)
Cologne Mani Codex

>>13549803
nothing ... it's all just bullshit man

>>13549803
The more "esoteric" something tries to be, the less wise it is. Actual wisdom is simple and obvious-sounding, like
>be kind
>save your money
>keep an eye on your health
>find one person to love instead of fucking around
>help out in your community if you can
Kind of like Peterson's "clean your room" stuff, but unfortunately he bit the capitalism bug hard.

The Lankavatara Sutra

>>13551383
that's not wisdom? thats sociology

Chad coming through

Currently reading the Devi Gita.

>>13551383
bluepilled as fuck

>>13551383
Read more

>>13549803
Mein Kampf

>>13549819
Lmao

>>13550089
Okay, let us know these unimaginable depths that no one else has figured out.

>>13551383
>Actual wisdom is what approved society figures tell me to do