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>>13547197
Leftists are fucking garbage manifested. They can't compete so how could they possibly create a competitive ideology is my question..

>>13547197
by appealing to the facts

>>13547197
They conveniently set aside the fact that the Glorious, French, and subsequent atlantic revolutions were all bourgeoisie revolutions, just as they set aside the fact that nationalism originated as a progressive force that was put in service of liberal revolutions against monarchy.

>>13547225
They have a dumb world view. The leftist walks around this earth thinking that they are the pinnacle of human intelligence for believing in equality and that all times before were under the dominion of stupid brutes (without even a single thought about how the transition occurred no less). They’re just too narcissistic to ever actually understand anything. You shouldn’t hate the left winger, you should pity them.

>>13547247
You should note that their belief in equality is firmly rooted in egotism. They have to be equal because they can’t be inferior.

>>13547197
Kek

>>13547197
>left
>right
>history
>capitalism

Cool story bro

>>13547197
It's common knowledge that the revolutions of the previous centuries were bourgeois revolutions, and Marx and Engels don't mince words about the fact that capitalism is the most "progressive" force ever seen on planet Earth.

>The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

>The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm

>>13547248
The mind of the Leftist is far more subtle than that, and we should differentiate between far-left socialists, who are generally animated by feelings of deep ressentiment and antisocial desires for violence that have been channeled into the only permissible object of hatred- the fascist, and progressives, who are animated by a religious desire for sanctification through the doctrine of absolute equality and repentance for the sins of their people, who they still see narcissistically as the only actors who have any agency in world history. The groups have crossover but are distinct.

You could write tomes about the psychological dispostions of these people as embedded in particular historical contexts, but it's all rather tedious.

The main point to be drawn is that these people will not engage in debate, because their motives are not understanding or the betterment of the world, they may very well have these impulses, but they are occluded by other pathologies. Not one of these people will engage honestly on the subjects our culture has deemed too taboo to even be allowed to discuss, only hysterically condemn, and silence opposition, they are zombies who cannot understand the concept of truth, only the manifestations of their turbulent unexamined emotions, and their panicked need to not be excommunicated from polite society for being seen as related to hatethink.

The only reasonable answer is to mock them and conduct discourse on whatever platforms don't censor, such that the coming generation has even a chance to see truth instead of being indoctrinated into their cults. But this is likely not going to work, and the only actual path towards ousting them is violence, just as they ousted the ancien regime with violence, and just as violence generally rules, but soft power does have its place.

There are maybe people alive today capable and willing of going down that path, but I am not one of them, I am beyond tired of the ceaseless horror of the human drama, and can find solace only in religious thought that extends beyond this disgusting quagmire of lies and evil.

>>13547287
>a chance to see truth instead of being indoctrinated into their cults. But this is likely not going to work, and the only actual path towards ousting them is violence, just as they ousted the ancien regime with violence, and just as violence generally rules, but soft power does have its place.

t.not a glownigger but this is what I always thought it would come down to for change to occur. I'm fine w participating in the civil war if they want it. I'm a midwit warrior. I'd rather participate in history than just observe it desu...

>hysterical
>narcissistic
>panicked
>zombies
>indoctrinated
>ceaseless
>now, back to my "Pepe" folder... there is a new Disney trailer I haven't responded to with a smirking frog yet...

>>13547302
If you're a psyop, you legally have to say you're a psyop, r-right? You can't... l-lie? Right? Not in a free speech zone, r-right?

>>13547302
I am too religious to want to wage war against anyone, maybe that is just weakness on my part. I feel it is better in a way to save your soul and die than to murder others, damn yourself, and prosper.

I feel wrong often even condemning Progressives and their ilk because hatred is no way to be, and helps nothing. I know they have good in their hearts too, but I think they are so confused that they commit immense evil.

The thing is though that evil kind of commands this world, I think right wing governments were better than what we have now but they were still marred by evil, and when you attack anything you kind of become what you hated. That is how Progressives ended up how they are, they thought their condemnation was righteous and so they indulged in sadistic and narcissistic impulses that nobody told them was wrong, having no religious or moral instruction of any real sort. Many on the right are fall prey to this as well.

I wouldn't condemn men who fought to make a better a world, but I can't do it myself, when my own judgment and actions seem so flawed that any possible movement I took except loving and healing was basically just an egotistic impulse driven from Satan, even if I thought it was righteous because I was deceived.

I cannot ever reconcile this issue in my mind, the evil of violence, and the reign of violence on the world that presents the only possibility of good that isn't God, how can we make good exist in this world without comitting evil while creating conditions that would be conducive to it?

even if our actions really do bring about the good, what do we do to ourselves by allowing the lust for violence to take us over, because we cannot really kill selflessly, it takes an exertion of will that only desire can bring, it allows us to indulge in our worst impulses under the guise of righteousness. Christ taught this, and it is in the Jewish commandments as well, the Buddha saw the same thing, it springs up everywhere in the lights of humanity.

>>13547329
CIA and other 3-letter agencies lie ceaselessly. I question whether they're able to tell the truth at all or does it make their faces crack. But no for real I have a fuck ton of banned books on glownigger plans..

>>13547197
They wrote a book about it. Go read it if you’re so curious.

>>13547225
Compete in what

>>13547329
Sure

>>13547197
You are a little baby. Ask the REALLY important question:

Why is it, that after 200 years of revolutions, revolutions designed to rid us of aristocracy and level off concentrations of wealth and power, we now find that those two things are more concentrated than ever in the 21st century?

>>13547457
Neoliberalism

>>13547457
Completely unrelated but Neon Halo would be one hell of a book title.

>>13547457
fuck off foucault

>>13547457
And that's a good thing

>>13547197
Why would they need to cope? Marx voted in favour of free trade because he knew that capitalism was one of if not the strongest process of disintegrating established hierarchies in our possession. Obviously a lot has changed since then, but there's never been any doubt amongst better-informed leftists– the bourgeoisie have always been the most "revolutionary" class, strictly speaking. All posts like
>>13547225
>>13547239
>>13547247
>>13547287
are really just big dumb strawmen that can only talk about leftism in its generality rather than grapple with the actual ideas it promotes. If you see a posts that starts with "The leftists are [insert crude insult here]", feel free to disregard it because it's so general as to be meaningless. The right-wing of politics is able to distinguish differences of opinion within its own wing, so why can't it do the same for the left?

>>13547197
Who did you think thought of that criticism you are using OP?