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Evolutionary Love

>>13302295
I recall the Dominicans and how they had to go into the cities to bring the good news and win converts. So it is with us and your "sprawl." Godspeed.

>>13302295
>>13302307
>>13302312
>>13302355
Death to christcucks

>>13302359
Why are athiests so violent an unrational?

>>13302359

>>13302295
>the amount of Athiests that life in the city.
funny way of skirting around the fact that this is correlated with education

When will you faggot christians just admit that you ripped off all your interesting doctrine and ceremony from pagans and then just made up a bunch of bullshit because of your retarded obsession with a dead jewish revolutionary?

>>13302444
Nigga, none of the bits that make Christianity popular (turning the other cheek, parable of the mote and the beam, forgiving, the prodigal son) come from paganism.

Good books on occidental spirituality and philosophy as a lived practice?

This is what I've read so far:
>Hermeneutics of the Subject
>What is Ancient Philosophy?
>Philosophy as a Way of Life
>Philosophy as a Rite of Rebirth
>Philosophy and Theurgy in Late Antiquity
>Ancient Philosophy, Mystery, and Magic
>Therapy of Desire
>Philosophy of CBT
>Philosophical Investigations
>You Must Change Your Life


Pic related

>>13302398
>theist
>confident, tolerant, sympathetic
>with a picture of the fucking catholic pope
My sides.

>>13302497
you better shut up before I start a crusade

>>13302295
The role of C*ristianity has always been to separate man from nature. Spiritually and physically. Modern atheism and anti-naturalism is the result of Christianity coming to Europe during the time when we still lived with nature. Fuck Christi*ns and fuck modernism

>>13302359
Muslims look based

>>13302359
This butterfly tranny is actually kinda based....
>>13302387
Superior nature allows for wasting less mental resources on rationalizing.

>>13302295
Tolkien

>no ellul posted
WHAT THE FUCK

>>13302615
>“No matter what God's power may be, the first aspect of God is never that of the absolute Master, the Almighty. It is that of the God who puts himself on our human level and limits himself.”

What a hack.

Nothing in the Bible shows regard for animas or trees, the Qur'an the Hadith are a good basid for this, the Bible is not

>>13302295
That's St Francis of Assisi you chucklefuck.

>>13302646

what is Dominion over all the creatures and things of the Earth

>>13302646
Because it was taken for granted. It was hard to imagine back then the extent of industrialization. Besides it's basically just an extension of Jesus at the market

>>13302488
Looks like a lot of quasi-self-help and pop history. Primary sources, son!

>>13302657
No one said it wasn't

>>13302666
Used to justify your treating nature as a thing to with whatever you please?

>>13302671
Hard to imagine? For God?

>>13302676
Other than the filename?

>>13302295
You do understand that Christianity spread via cities like a plague and that "pagan" is derived from a Latin word that meant "country folk," right?

>>13302699
It's short for ecological christianity

>>13302295
Stop trying to appropriate environmentalism for conservative purposes poltard.

>>13302711
Environmentalism has always been conservative. It's the progressive left that industrialized and urbanized everything. Conservatives want to conserve nature, it's in the fucking name

>>13302732
I honestly don't feel like getting in an internet argument with some incel poltard who's not even going to engage in a good faith debate. white people hate the environment and have been trying to destroy in for hundreds of years. In the 60s environmentalism became popular with white hippy types because it provided them with a rationalization their neocolonialist white instinct to appropriate other cultures, engage in tourism to exotic locations, and virtue signal about driving a Prius. Really though, environmentalism is inherently opposed to whiteness, Capitalism, and western supremacist culture.

>>13302295
What are you talking about? Sprawlers are just adhering to the command to be fruitful and multiply.

Aythesitc regumalation against development defies the will to live from the resources on God's green earth.

>>13302673
I read primary sources first. Also, that is a considerable mischaracterization of the books, pseud.

>>13302760
The right has always been the ones to oppose industrialization. You can't even argue it. Just look at Tolkein or Heiddeger for just a couple examples. There is no such leftist equivolent since . Look at what happened in Communist China, literally the worst offender against mother nature.

>>13302711
>The left is already trying to appropriate environmentalism as their own now that it's the cool thing
fuck off, you are the ones who destroyed the world with globalism and mass industry in the name of "progress"

>>13302760
Unless you're talking about neoliberals (inspired by the liberals of 17th and 18th century) the right has always been environmentalist.
You are being delusional thinking that only the left cares about nature, in fact, the idea of a simple life style on nature is a far away concept for the left, since all their doctrine is based of materialism ideas and and the endless chase for "progress".
The closest thing the left has is the vegan ativism and global warming fight, but the guy that actually started most of these ideas was Hitler. Back then, the communists wanted to seize the means of prodicuction and advocate for better lifes in the cities.

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>>13302831
>When white nationalists start to loose the argument and the look retarded so they start using dog whistles and talking about "progress"

Whiteness = Capitalism = Consumerism = Genocide = Environmental Destruction = Conservatism

>>13302856
>no arguments
>trying to win by cope
Women suffrage was a mistake indeed

>>13302856
>Everybody I dont like is a white supremacist
Fuck these butterflies

>>13302873
>no arguments
He or she doesn't need "arguments", capitalism and "white people" have already destroyed the planet.

>>13302888

Good, except the Christian girls are somewhat immodestly dressed.

>>13302891
>He or she doesn't need "arguments", capitalism and "white people" have already destroyed the planet.
So did communism (Mao sparrow hunting) and other races (Native Americans putting fire on trees)
So what's your point? Should we exterminate the human kind?

>>13302856
Look at the Soviet Union and China. Literally communism and both have little regard for nature.

Here you are, anon. I'll say a prayer of blessing for you as you seek the righteous path.

You stupid fuck, OP. The prologue of the Bible instructs man to rape the Earth.

From Genesis chapter 1:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

>>13302923
>cherrypicking and ignoring NT
This is your mind in woman

>>13302923
>Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it
Sounds like a healthy and balanced cycle. It doesn't say "just kill everything lmao"

>>13302904
>>13302911

Native Americans never did anything to the environment. Only white people have on any significant scale. Of course, there have been times in history where Asians or African or Native Americans have harmed the environment, but this is generally only because they have to or have been coerced into doing so by colonialist white powers.

For example, India uses a lot of coal because most gas and renewable is used by white, who use their militarizes to control foreign lands and seize their resources so that other countries can't use them. 99% of the time when a brown or indigenous person is "harming" the environment it is because they are facing some sort of disadvantageous socioeconomic situation that they were put in by whites. It's also no really fair to compare whites with brown people because whites are foreign invaders whereas brown people are indigenous natives, so they can't really "harm" or "pollute" their environment in the same sense, since they're actually a part of their environment.

>>13303029
Dumb racist

>>13303029
>letters of father anchietta to brazil
He describes that native americans literally used to take some of the trees and burn just becauss lol, fire lmao.
And that's one reported event, imagine what others would do.

Can uh... Someone talk about CHRISTIANITY?

>>13303067
Not going to talk about christianity with a woman who has no self respect or mindset to speak about it
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>>13302444
Checked.
Christcucks are scared of nature. This is advocating sin.

>>13302666
Checked.
Christian God confirmed satanic.

>>13302789
Imagine discussing tradition while conforming to the left/right paradigm...

>>13302888
Christcucks really cannot fucking meme.

>>13303126
>t-thats not true
Larp moar

>>13302935
Muh nt
Still 2/3 Jewish

>>13303126
Cope

>>13303135
Not an argument

>>13303128
Sinning again.

Back to your endless prayers cuckboy.

>>13303141
Sinning again.

Go worship your idols.

>>13303142
>christianity is bending over
Everytime

>>13303142
>>13303149
SEETHING

>>13303149
See >>13303151
Git gud

>>13303151
Reddit memes.
Reddit religion.

Go ask G-d for gold.

>>13303158
>Reddit spacing.
>Reddit speech.
Go back to play Skyrim, Tyrone

>>13303155
Yet another sin.
Why are Christians such hypocritical faggots?

>>13303165
>pagan telling others what christianity is

>>13303158
>reddit spacing

>>13303151
Epistemologically and rhetorically speaking, I don't understand the criticism in this pic. Even if you don't believe something it make perfect sense to appeal to the beliefs of someone else in making an argument. It's called having a theory of mind. Also, how the fuck are you going to perform a reductio if you can't take on someone elses perspective, so to speak.

By the way, I don't support immigration or anything, I'm just confused because you pic seems to be suggesting that this rhetorical strategy is either logically fallacious or morally questionable.

>>13302666
Christians eternally BTFO

>>13303211
Christcucks can't into logic.

>>13303211
I don't see nothing wrong in using the perspective of your audience to actually make a compeling argument. The problem is, most of the time when this happens it is by a twisted view, not like when you talk to a feminist that supports lots of shit just to contradict herself afterwards, but as taking a quote out of context and just say "yo, you cant do that, not christian enough" even though Jesus basically said "be chill, but not so chill" as it is showed in the bible when he expells the merchants of the temple and calls jews sons of the devil.

>>13303216
Pope Francis is a herectic and must be burned
>>13303222
Wasted trips
Pagans are not much better, they stick with what Varg says and "lmao, christcucks"

>>13302666
>Is there any greater hubris than Christianity? Besides thinking that a god would give a fuck about you lowly mortals, you get up and spend about three hours getting ready to spend the day entirely within His gaze. Curling your fine locks; slowly inching on exquisite leggings; plucking away at the unsightly; adorning an intricately sewn and soft pair of felt shoes so that the earth remains undisturbed by your fleeing feet; closing yourself within layer upon layer of corsets and featherings to keep all forces and elements at bay while attracting the fancy of the piercing eyes of the world; spritzing your skin and hair with the eternal glaze of a prism; a second layer of leggings and tights to show off your gleamingly placid contours in relaxed poses; a wide-brimmed hat with the sweeping peacock lines of the ethereal; and finally a veiled nightshirt to keep any remaining inclement weather from betraying your fair skin, and especially adding the gravity of the world to those bouncing curls.

>Yes. Yes. You are so fine and beholden to the heavens, an earthen vessel which G-d would love to take in his kind hands, kissing you gently. He will slowly remove all those layers of linen and silk, revealing the blossoming curves of you, the Virtuous Man. A spider woven into His web. And once naked in the light beyond this cursed earth He will ravage your gentle body without making you feel like a whore.

>He will even watch as you spend another three hours piecing together your assemblage of the finest knitwear, just waiting for that gentle jiggling of the buttocks as you tighten your corset. As you gracefully walk back into the earthly delights He will drape your curtain over your pallid shoulders; for You are the Veil of Maya and Logos.

>>13302459
No one ever said that, nor that those cuck stories were good.
>>13302444
>>13302666
>>13303222
These fucking digits.

>>13303234
HAHAHAHA cope
Pagans literally created logic, you dumb cunt. Meanwhile Christians have to struggle to understand the very worst of the Greeks.

Islam makes much more sense than any other religion because it actually detests degeneracy, I fucking hate degeneracy myself so I really hope the Muslims win

>>13303251
Not nordpagans though, hellenistics
>Meanwhile Christians have to struggle to understand the very worst of the Greeks
They literally conserved and spread greek philosophy, your point is invalid
Not to mention the pagan traditions were reported and kept by christian clerics, so yeah...

>>13303256
At this day and time, me too

>>13302666
/thread

>>13303244
Checked.

>Christianity is not merely the death of God, nor an unfolding recreation within His corpse, it is an exhumation; a harvesting of His organs as talents for Asclepius in the eleventh-hour of the war of Man against the gods; a scorched-earth legalism of necrophilia with the cadaver's limbs; an appeasement to some unnameable force. Ineffable execration of everything beautiful, every eternal law—to which it is then reformed in stone, the graveyard of natural law.

>This is why the Church exists eternally in retreat, within the petrified justice of its founding, forever reliant upon tentative alliances with its enemies. Natural law undone through apostasy, Christianity is the defilement of creation, disgorgement of Christ's exit wound, the world-weariness of the resurrected, the Holy Ghost of blood spatter pattering on the sarcophagus.

>The Christian Saint befouls every sanctuary, entombing humanity and the law of gods into a deepening pit. Pan is declared dead only so that Aphrodite is forced to reveal herself in judgement. And here the Crucifix becomes the mark of the World Wound, every sanctum crossed out, so that humanity will either submit or have to contend with the monstrous gods released from Orcus. The sarcophagus expands its walls as Christianity attempts to condemn Aphrodite to the plight of Io.

>God reveals nothing but His treachery, He is not content with meager resignation of the warring gods, the fallen angels, capitulation and eternal exile are akin to a pardon for him. No, he wants his enemies to rise as dark spirits, chthonic forces feeding on all that remains in opposition to Him. He desires neither the death of the gods nor consumption of their power, He wants to maim and mutilate them—force them to hobble along in his shadow, eternally in His image. Branded as a warning against all who may oppose Him in the future. He wants to entomb himself within the corpse of the world.

>There can be no other interpretation of Christianity, its apotheosis erupts from the forges of Hephaestus, the lame one. A world of abysmal law enchained to iron-forged gods, and falling to the forces it fails to nullify—the Christian God attempts to sunder and disgorge the heavens, the material devastation nothing compared to the loss of understanding of eternal laws, of dominion. Each saint reduced to the piety of automatons, acephali.

>If there is a theological meaning to the Book, it has, until now, escaped revelation.

>>13302888
I wonder in what for families these athiests came from

>>13303335
Proddies, no less

>>13302502
This. But it's still better than atheism in this day and age.

Screencap

NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, IF YOU ARE CHRISTIAN YOU NEED TO SUPPORT INDUSTRIALISATION.

LIKING NATURE IS OUR THING, STOP STEALING OUR PAGAN SUBCULTURE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>13303585
Actually transcendentalists like Emerson linked God with nature. Even provided some logical proofs.

The Koran has some great passages about the movements of trees and birds with God that have stuck with me to this day :3

>>13303585
Yikes.

>>13303681
>Why, yes, I am in fact a Christian, how did you know?

>>13302295
Absolutely these: "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution"

>>13303711
checked
Christians will never learn.

>>13302295
>1000 years ago
>cities full of Christians, word heathen comes from Heath dweller or countryside person
>today
>cities full of atheists, people in countryside considered simple and dumb for being christians
Like pottery

>>13303863
>>13303126

>>13303900
And the digits just keep coming.

>>13303900

“Believe me, for I know, you will find something far greater in the woods than in books. Stones and trees will teach you that which you cannot learn from the masters.” - St Bernard of Clairvaux

>>13302488
The Sayings of the Desert Fathers

>>13304132
>Desert
>green

>>13303311
Cheked

Source to that?

>>13302295
Christianity is fully anti-ecology. What the fuck are you on about?

>>13302459
Christians are fucking delusional and think jesus was the first person who was ever nice to anybody.

>>13303379
And I suppose rat poison is preferable to botulism poisoning - or perhaps we can abandon this paradigm of choosing the slower of two poisons?

>>13303234
>Pope Francis is a herectic and must be burned
Big cope. Another cool feature of christianity: constant, and I mean CONSTANT desire to physically attack and destroy any and all ideas or people that are not 100% aligned with their own personal head canon of what the dead jewish revolutionary is or isn't, or did or did not teach.

>>13303263
>Not to mention the pagan traditions were reported and kept by christian clerics
This is similar to saying pagans should thank a rapist for not murdering them as well. You people are so, so sick.

>>13302760
Have you ever been to China or India?

>>13302762
Sprawlers aren't adhering to any command, they're just following their base appetites/loins.

>>13302888
>Paintings, models, stock photos
>Actual people in reality
ರ_ರ

>>13303263
>They literally conserved and spread greek philosophy, your point is invalid
They burned everything.
Why do you think the meme islamic golden age was a thing?

All that late antiquity culture and knowledge bailed out from europe and into the middle east. Christianity true form is that of a cult, it's paganised semitic mythology.

>>13302888
Who's that violin girl?

>>13302888
>Implies christian values arose from christian tradition.
m8, "christianity" is European folkish traditions through a christian lense.
>pic related.
Christianity, unfortunately, is as semitic pagan as it is European pagan,

>>13302295
For those actually interested in furthering their Faith through an ecological lens, you can start with the ecotheology series by Rev. Richard Cartwright Austin. Specifically the first book, "Baptized Into Wilderness".
I would just be careful that the reverand sometimes assigns attributes to the Lord that the Bible might not necessarily back up. So if you are more fundamentalist and take the Bible as the be all end all you may not enjoy these books.
You can find them on amazon but I borrowed them from my university library.
If you don't readily have access to the books, try reading anything on John Muir for a start.
God bless!

>>13303237
Whoever wrote this was surely a faggot. Obsessed with sex and lost on what God even is. Silly faggot Jews.

>>13302295
im an atheist with a few acres of farmland that i use to grow food for homeless and poor people free of charge
god isn't real but the teachings of christ remain valid in most aspects. loving your neighbor isn't exclusive to christians, just good people with compassion for living things. i treat living things with respect because life is all we have and it should be fostered and cherished in order to maximize happiness and well-being. if you need a God and the fear of sin to make you be a good person you're not even a real Christian in the first place

*inhales blunt*
check out:
>Fr. Tom Barry
>Fr. de Chardin
>Fr. John O'Donohue

>>13306025
>Whoever wrote this was surely a faggot. Obsessed with sex and lost on what God even is. Silly faggot Jews.
>projection, the post.

>>13304289
Not sure. Was posted on here a while back.

>>13305935
>So if you are more fundamentalist and take the Bible as the be all end all you may not enjoy these books.
lol

>>13306976
I googled it, threw me a /lit/ thread, but it 404`d, says it's archived but it isn't in the archives?

Well, there's 'Laudato si'' by Pope Francis.

>He "describe[s] a relentless exploitation and destruction of the environment, for which he blamed apathy, the reckless pursuit of profits, excessive faith in technology and political shortsightedness."

>Pope Francis points out, technology is viewed as "principal key to the meaning of existence" and asks the world to "resist" its "assault".

>>13302295
Believing God just because everybody else does is not a genuine believe as a consequence of understanding him. I'd say true Christians can only exists among educated urban populous

>>13302444
BASED

>>13302923
Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

>God will destroy them which destroy the earth.

>>13303852
Adoption is the answer in this case. Divorce would also be permitted

>>13302923
>26 And God said, Let us make man in our image,
> Let us make man in our image
>man in our image
>our image
>our
Why is that in the plural?
Our?
More than one god?

>>13306045
Christian atheist?

>>13308390
Because it's translated from a semitic language and the translator kept the plural.