/lit/ - Literature

>>13282234
Kantbot is based and generally has very hot takes.

>>13282234
I’ve only got a periphery knowledge of him, but nobody can be taken seriously until they’ve written a book. Twitter intellectuals are irrelevant.

>>13282234
He strikes me as very un-Kantian but not because of this (this is based).

>>13282234
>What are your thoughts
stopped reading there

Kantbot's not a literary critic, though. Kantbot is more like our generation's Kierkegaard.

>>13282273
Blasphemy

I'm really liking his new podcast

>>13282317
What is it?

>>13282322
http://shoutengine.com/TEKWARS/

>>13282253
Half of them have already written books. Kantbot is probably the only one whose book will be worth anything.

nobody cares about your e celebs

That looks quite based

>>13282387
E-celebs are going to complete the system of German Idealism.

>>13282387
E celebs are the future stupid. Bronze Age Mindset will be read 100 years from now

>>13282277
Whatever, I'm not exactly sure if he's our Kaptain Kierk or not, all I know is that he's not our Harold Bloom because he doesn't review books or comment on literature. Not really, just every so often and not seriously.

Speaking of e-celebs, what exactly is BAP up to?

>>13282398
no it wont and thats also not a long time

I can't bring myself to hate trans people because there are legitimately some whose brains have not fully masculinized and are legitimately women in men's bodies. There's a typology of these, google it.

The ones that bother you, that are generally white internet-dwelling neets, are the autogynephiles. They dominate internet trans communities. I think AGP is a combination of OCD and compulsive sexual behavior. There's case studies on this.

>>13282409
>no it wont
It already is.

>>13282415
>whose brains have not fully masculinized and are legitimately women in men's bodies
This can be seen in babies?

>>13282273
He’s like Bloom in that he’s obsessed with the romantics (the German ones in kantbot’s case) and how he makes outlandish, poetic and unoriginal claims without ever actually making any genuine points. That’s all like Bloom.

>>13282437
Also, he’s a fat Jew.

>>13282409
>no it wont
If Might is Right can be released in 1890 and still get memed about today, BAP can do the same

>>13282437
>using “poetic” as an insult
I want /sci/ to leave

>>13282450
Aww I know, I hate when science gets in the way of my sophistry.

>>13282234
Man, I've been saying this forever. Trans people, whether they consciously know it or not, believe in some kind of spiritual/immaterial "gender" that seems to exist as some kind of Platonic idea outside of our world, and your material body can manifest itself as the opposite gender of this idea. But inquire further and all these pro-trans people are hardcore materialists. So where does this "gender you identify as" come from? If it's socially conditioned, that means you can't be "born as" your preferred gender, and also that would make it possible, in theory, to "cure" you.

>>13282415
>legitimately women brains in men's bodies
this doesn't mean anything. there may be people with a brain more similar to the other gender's average but that doesn't make it an official female/male brain that has some kind of inherent link to the other gender's body structure.

>I can't bring myself to hate trans people
I don't hate them but I do respect them less because they're the type of people obsessed with society's categories. And then instead of deciding to put those boxes behind them they try to crudely reassign themselves to another box and declare that the boxes are official and everyone needs to treat them according to their new box now

>>13282458
Science isn’t even real nigger

>>13282384
Has he said he’s even writing one?

>>13282466
Not an argument.

>>13282362
Thx

>>13282469
Yeah. I think he said he’s almost done.

>>13282479
V cool. I hope he has the sense to use his real name and present himself professionally. He has a lot of potential.

>>13282472
Did you think I was trying to make one? Do you think I believe in “arguments,” Mr. Molyneux?

>there is no way to empirically measure gender
>except for, you know, dysphoria, but let's ignore that for the sake of my biases

>>13282482
His real name is out there already. Edward Waverley.

>>13282484
QED.

>>13282490
Think that might just be another pen name

>>13282494
KYS.

>>13282495
Ah, played right into his hand!

>>13282489
Dysphoria is not an empirical measurement you nitwit

>>13282489
Is life as meaningless as the depressive says it is? As terrifying as those with anxiety disorders think it is? As populated with pink elephants as schizophrenics might suggest it is?

>>13282437
I thought Bloom was obsessed with Shakespeare.

>>13282509
>Is life as meaningless as the depressive says it is?
yes

>>13282511
He is, in a performative way and in acting like this he is aping the English romantics.

>>13282506
do you experience gender dysphoria? and if not, how do you know that when, by your own words, you can't empirically tell?
>>13282509
>medicate the depressed to make them happy, ending the delusion
>medicate the anxious to calm them down, ending the delusion
>medicate the schizos to purify their awareness, ending the delusion
>medicating the trans to change their physical sex, ending the delusion

>>13282514
Listen up Ligotti, just because YOU don’t have a chin...

>>13282519
One of those medications is not like the others

>>13282525
and it's anti-depressives, since they don't automatically make you happy

>>13282516
Weren't the English Romantics obsessed with Milton, though?

>>13282528
Don't look up post op trans suicide rates

>>13282519
i experience the belief that you're an intellectually dishonest tard who wants to play with semantics instead of make coherent claims about reality and that you should kill yourself. if you could change physical reality to accommodate my beliefs i'd really appreciate it

>>13282533
>being surprised when transphobia causes people to kill themselves
>>13282539
thanks for admitting that dysphoria is empirical, have a nice day

>>13282550
the fact that you should kill yourself is empirically true yet you haven't. are you suggesting that our asinine definition of 'empirical' might not correspond to reality or say anything about people who use the word in a less retarded way? that's very upsetting to me so i'd appreciate if you could hurry up

>>13282560
no, no, you misunderstand, my definition of "empirical" is "blue, specifically the hex color #007FFF". I have literally no idea what you're going on about at this point, but it's definitely not related to my argument

>>13282550
>transphobia causes people to kill themselves
But buddy don't you remember saying the surgery makes them automatically happy? And if it's not being accepted by normative society that causes them to kill themselves why aren't black suicide rates higher?

>>13282570
>someone in a vacuum who is in a body they do not feel dysphoria towards is happy
>therefore taking that person out of the vacuum and putting them in a hostile environment will not change their happiness

>>13282569
fuck off nerd. me and that guy are arriving at empirical truths by thinking about our feelings so please just hold off with your nerd talk until he's killed himself

>>13282528
C’mon now, you know just as well as I that it’s the last one, look at the pattern

>>13282581
>me and that guy
anon, that guy is me
>>13282583
anon, I think you've mixed up the words "first" and "last". I'm sure this was no fault of your intelligence but instead your English tutor, since you're obviously ESL. consult him or her and point out that "first" actually refers to the cardinal number 1 and that "last" actually refers to the greatest cardinal number in a set

>>13282591
>anon, that guy is me
then why haven't you killed yourself? do you need to encode the truth that you should into a color? because i just encoded that truth into every color. they all say you should kill yourself

>>13282597
you know, I've been considering suicide for a few weeks now, but since you seem to think it's a good idea and I don't trust your opinions, I guess I won't kill myself after all

>>13282600
>already considering suicide
>thinks gender dysphoria is empirical truth and should be acted on
i still like my odds

>>13282612
I mean, you have good odds, but not as good odds as they would be if I weren't cis. hey, idea, do you think I should undergo a transition to give myself dysphoria to increase my odds of killing myself?

>>13282591
Boring sense of humor. I hope this thread makes you a little less happy

>>13282624
it actually has. it always makes me a little bit depressed to see people being mean to my community. though I am glad to see that my sadness has made you happy :)
wait, if I'm now glad, then you're now sad since your hopes were crushed, which makes me sad in empathy for you, which fulfills your hope and makes you happy, and then we're stuck in a loop

>>13282641
I’m starting to notice a trend in the way trannies banter. I’ve seen it a lot. It’s a very distinctive style and it has a lot of what I just called “boring sense of humor.” It sort of goes like this

Anon: You are stupid
Trannie: Yes...I am stupid. But wait. What would “stupid” even mean? If we take stupid to mean “me” then wouldn’t it not even mean anything since I don’t mean anything? But if I don’t mean anything, then I do mean something

>>13282649
It’s like when women try to be funny but they’re not. Shit maybe they’re women after all!

>this frightens the tranny

>>13282649
I already said I'm not trans, so I'm just going to assume your embarrassing post is projection

>>13282519
>do you experience gender dysphoria? and if not, how do you know that when, by your own words, you can't empirically tell?

That doesn't make it an empirical measurement...

>>13282618
>hey, idea,

God u must be insufferable irl

>>13282690
no, it doesn't, my point is that the idea of dysphoria shouldn't have ever been thought of in a universe where it can't be empirically experienced
>>13282698
that's correct, but irrelevant to my argument

>>13282680
But are you sure you’re not trans? Browse egg_irl a little more, Alice

>>13282707
>that’s correct
Protip stop self-deprecating, makes you come off as weak

>>13282234
I agree with the first half but what is the epistemological mechanism by which Kantbot can gain access to their interior misogyny, insecurity, jealousy, etc.? Can trans people not be aware of this but Kantbot can?

>>13282719
my god, you're right, my bisexuality has actually just been dysphoria in disguise all along!
>>13282732
ok

>>13282738
the difference isn't that he has absolute certainty. it's that he uses words to mean things

everybody go listen to TekWar Podcast NOW

>>13283273
Upload it pls.

>>13284035
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>>13284062
He's a literal retard. Everything he has to say is formulaic. He just looks up 19th century criticisms of behavior and shoehorns it into a modern context

>>13284135
The man found a novel means to squeeze humor from old texts and contemporary trends. Your response is to shit on it? What a bitter creature

>>13284039
It’s all for free on Apple Podcasts. I greatly enjoyed the episode with Shawn and the Logo ones were good too

I really like Kantbot. I wish I could be more like him desu.

But I'm just a lowly wagiecuck posting from my office desk.

I can never keep up with the people in this scene because of all the e-drama and infighting.
Even the Catholic circles are absolute cancer.

>>13284062
that's actually pretty based and redpilled desu