/lit/ - Literature

Because /pol/ is spilling over. It's like a cancer

>>13280464
cry moar

>>13280470
Are you literally 12? Underage shits are not allowed on here

>>13280472
seething

I went from Marx to Hegel.

>>13280450
Eternal September + Dunning Kruger is always fun

>>13280450
If you're a guy and white, honestly even if youre a nonwhite guy at this point, and you're still supporting the 'leftwing' progressive mainstream, you must literally hate yourself or just be forced to play along because your social status will get ruined if you don't. 4chan is anonymous and trends towards people who dont care about or have much social status in the first place, so there is 0 incentive for anyone here from that demographic to remain progressive.

I dont think people are really cognizant of how severe the shift in the past decade has been

It started to turn before the election, as part of the same slow and general reaction among that subaltern "irreverent pseudo-anarchist" stratum against overbearing faggoty SJW shit, especially among college-aged men who don't find it easy to absorb the dogmas of the day and "fit in" first and foremost.

It's definitely not Pewdiepie or even the election. 4chan's userbase has drastically increased since the election, bringing in lots of redditshit, yeah, but this only reinforced existing tendencies which in fact began here. 4chan was probably unknowingly pivotal in creating or at least crystallising the generalised "ironic right-winger" discourse, which then caused all those redditfags to be right-wing in the first place. Once those redditfags realise they're in an right-wing constellation, they naturally tend to move toward its core, unconsciously looking for older, more systematic, and funnier thought-leaders.

Prior to these changes the board was more apolitical but its basic vibe was determined by its userbase, which was college-aged men who reached intellectual maturity just prior to the problem of overbearing SJWs (especially in college settings) being pointed out and made consciously explicit. Some of them already chafed at the SJW shit without realising it, and a good many of them were sympathetic to it, probably running in college leftist circles, where being a sincere Marxist or Anarchist usually requires that you learn to tolerate the fucking trannies and other circus freaks who show up to every party, along with all the Democratic Socialist-type leftists who tend to be tranny-friendly day-tripper druggies roleplaying as leftists.

All that happened on /lit/ was that the elements who refused to have their irreverence scolded out of them by normies coalesced with people who genuinely (but latently) prefer "right-wing" ideals to liberal hedonism/individualism/etc., and with trolls who simply hate liberal hedonism so much that they're willing to sign up as Nazis just to fuck with it.

Incidentally, Chaposhit was inevitable, as all the people excluded by this general concrescence (e.g., the aforementioned actual Marxists who would rather tolerate their cognitive dissonance over trannies and normie DemSocs than befriend a neo-Nazi) had to go somewhere. Chaposhit is a weak rear guard action as a result: the impulse to create a 4chan-style but conspicuously non-rightist discourse is smart, but it's still undermined by all the normies and self-awareness lacking faggots weighing it down and making it cringey. Also why Contrapoints will never be effective, he stinks of normieshit and reddit.

people stopped reading actually philosophy and jerked off to siege, now people pay no attention to metaphysics or metaethics and instead open up their crusty collectors edition version of evola

right-wing posting is just a meme like whitehead posting, or Pynchon posting, or any older forced meme. there's no reason to believe any poster on /lit/ has any actual political ideology they believe and act on. its just memes.

What do you mean by right wing?

>>13280544
based and memepilled

>>13280472
Cope

As a centrist, seeing these threads are hilarious. Radicals (who are both wrong) yell insults back and forth at each other with no actual arguments.

>>13280565
*tips fedora*

>>13280565
I spotted one of your neurons

>>13280565
centrist is the most wrong of all though

>>13280450
I was left-wing until they went too far. Now I am right-wing as fuck. There is a good chance I will have to deal with the consequences of right-wingers taking power in the future. We are culling the herd in a sense.

>>13280571
>fusing ideas makes you wrong

>>13280565

>>13280464
or maybe many of the noncomformist young white men who would have been attracted to the radical left just a few years ago, have become attracted to the radical right instead. The left offers no real criticism of the establishment besides more diversity more inclusion, less whitey, more surveillance and corporatisation. I used to be a dirtbag lefty before chapo made it a thing. and let me tell you something nothing build up white identity more than actual contact with the left, that and actually reading books, I realise all the crap that I had been made to read in high school was nothing but prog propaganda.

>>13280581
I'm actually a Christian centrist. Thank you very much

>>13280576
I'm not saying that centrism is wrong, just most wrong. Centrism has the most temporary stage of ideological processing. Left and Right wing thoughts are where the ideologies are crystallized.

>>13280596
>Hurr if you're pragmatic and do research you're the most wrong

This idea is revisionist history promoted by R*dditors. All boards were majority conservative within a few years of /pol/‘s foundation. And don’t try to claim that /pol/ was exclusively stormfront colonists. That website is not nearly big enough to have determined the culture of /pol/. /pol/ users were conservatives and libertarians to begin with and most of them came from within 4chan itself.

>>13280450
SJW’s, jews, brown people, and biased media

>>13280606
the truth isn't known

>>13280464
>left wing racists surprised at increasing racism
>inb4 we're not racist because we changed the definition

>>13280614
>one person replies have sex to some posts
>the meme takes over 4chan
yeah, stormfags totally didn't have any influence over /pol/

>>13280614
4chan used to shittalk christcucks, make life hell for people who abused cats, and cause anarchism all over the internet.

Now people just post pepe and hitler (unironically)

anyone who goes from one end of the spectrum to the other always had a shallow understanding of their own professed ideology to begin with

>>13280505
This tbqh, I defintely got way more right wing after this shit was going overdrive, I've cooled a bit and fairly left on some things now but being a prog and white male is so fucking stupid

The authoritarian Left dominates culture/academia/society.

Inevitably, young people interested in rebelling against the orthodoxy of their day will lean right.

>>13280625
>Now people just post pepe and hitler (unironically)
dear god, the horror

>>13280619
By saying the truth isn't known you're saying that as a truth that the truth isn't known.

/lit/ is a right wing board that reads and unironically agrees with marx

>>13280625
hitler posting wasn't ironic, all the /pol/ memes about jews date back to the 2000s and were circulated on /b/.

>>13280635

>>13280544
I have an ideology, it's anti-ideology, the only true ideology.

You must possess an innate level of self hatred, weakness and insecurity to harbour 2019 left wing views. It is becoming increasingly difficult to do so even for those who have been traditionally 'liberal' their whole lives. the extremity of the '''left''' is imposing an ultimatum upon everyone.

>>13280632
considering the left has always depended on the youth as their main constituents that pretty much means they're dead in the water.

>>13280627
Or you are a working class white man who gets into the left to find out, apparently there is no such thing as being white and working class, and to get really woke you need to go to a good college. also trannies. the tranny mania was what made me quit the left for good. god i fucking unironically hate those freaks, i am not being bigoted, im talking from my concrete personal experience, every last one of them is lacking in any redeemable characteristics whatsoever.

>>13280635
It's a known known that the truth is a known unknown.(unknown knowns are rationally indistinct from unknown unknowns, but functionally distinct to the utmost degree)
Got it Nerd?

>>13280652
incels i think were the big turning point. all these supposedly left wingers who think equality is more important than equity showed that what they really care about is equity when it's for them, which is exactly why people generally leave the left as they get older and more established. there are no actual lefties, just temporary leeches.

>>13280655
As long as there are freaks, lesbians, faggots, wimps, trannies, shitskins, jews, and sluts, there will be leftists

>>13280667
dead in the water means stopped not gone

>>13280662
you were a far left worker who "got into the left?"

>>13280666
it definitely wasn't incels. the biggest sea change in sex relations was MeToo and the concept of 'believe women'. Literally overturning the basic premise of the law in favor of giving women unilateral power to ruin men's lives based on nothing but their word.

>>13280666
seize the means of reproduction

>>13280666
Have sex satan

>>13280544
>Just like Whitehead posting
Are you trying to say that all these rightard threads are being made by a single faggot?
Big if true

>>13280673
leftists are middle class kids who once upon a time couldn't stop talking about the righteousness of muh workers in the abstract, but concrete instances of workers out in the street? they prove invariably dissapointing, or even worse, threatening to their self image as leftists. that's why its better to talk about trannies or the all powerful nazi menace.

>>13280698
I agree with you, and I'm a leftist. If you have a consistent set of beliefs with any kind of rigor to them, you're not going to be buffeted around the political spectrum like a bag in the wind

>>13280582
>the left offers no real criticism of the establishment besides more diversity more inclusion, less whitey, more surveillance and corporatisation
You're either an actual retard who has absolutely no grasp of leftism or an extremely weak baiter. The only reason the former is even a possibility is because there unfortunately seem to be a lot of /pol/tards with a reddit-tier understanding of politics on here lately.

>>13280729
>leftism
le epic socialist bait and switch. Face it nobody cares about class anymore

>>13280729
>The only reason the former is even a possibility is because there unfortunately seem to be a lot of /pol/tards with a reddit-tier understanding of politics on here lately
it's crazy how common this is, even with posters that seem to be versed in right-wing lit

>>13280582
If your reaction to contact with liberals was to turn right and not live further left you were never really committed to it to begin with.
>>13280450
A lot of the left wing of the board migrated to 4+4chan or went to /his/ to fight in a noble but futile popular front war against /pol/.

>>13280684
>>13280666

and it isn't like women are doing better, that's what incels miss. your grandmother had 6 kids, your mother had two, what do you have? a cat and an abortion. liberalism fails even at its only stated goal, letting women have lots of guilt free, consequence free sex. today's young people are so socially retarded and so numbed up on antidepressants they are actually having less sex than they were 20 or even 40 years ago, tinder and all. and besides there's the whole freudian repressed memory side of feminism, are you sure you didn't get raped, are you sure you are truly free? Where once unwritten agreements existed between people- family, love, community, religion also basic manners and politeness- there is now a whole managerial bureaucracy designed to mediate between atomised and increasingly deranged individuals.

Most of the right wingers are either Catholics or trads. I doubt there are any neocons on /lit/

>>13280748
picture

>>13280450
THE EAGLE CANT FLY WITH ONE WING

As a right winger I don't know where else to go. I get censored or dog piled whenever I share my opinions anywhere else and it gets tiring. It's probably the same for other people like me.

the distinction between leftism and liberalism has become redundant and only theoretical. in practice, these two have become ideologically so congruent that it's impossible to draw a line between the two.

>>13280751
I’m a Puritan anti-Kaczynskian race realist fascist

Anyone who disagrees with this post is a reddit tranny chapo faggot tourist.

>>13280505
Indeed, it's becoming impossible to ignore (even with indoctrination) that the progressive march is progressing us right off a cliff.

>>13280764
in short, a deluded faggot

>>13280748
i agree women need to be controlled and directed or they'll debase themselves and others

>>13280729
where is the real non aids left you leftypol faggots keep talking about? Just like rational centrists, i think you are just too naive to realise the truth that all politics are ultimately identity politics. leftists have a term for it, strategic essentialism, if everything I value is under attack,if i feel this ideology is trying to control me, then i'm willing to ally myself with some quite unsavory characters

>Strategic essentialism, a major concept in postcolonial theory, was introduced in the 1980s by the Indian literary critic and theorist Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak.[1] It refers to a political tactic in which minority groups, nationalities, or ethnic groups mobilize on the basis of shared gendered, cultural, or political identity to represent themselves. While strong differences may exist between members of these groups, and amongst themselves they engage in continuous debates, it is sometimes advantageous for them to temporarily "essentialize" themselves and to bring forward their group identity in a simplified way to achieve certain goals

>>13280450
I memed Guenon into common parlance on /lit/ starting about 5 years ago and a bunch of people read and ended up partially or fully agreeing with him and as a result of this many of them began to adopt more positions that can be painted as right-wing or reactionary and they slowly gained widespread traction over the years across /lit/ and the other boards. To the other anons who also contributed, I offer you my thanks.

>>13280450
Actually /lit/izens are left wing.
Sadly post-2016 rapefugees from /pol/eddit have immigrated to all the other boards.

>>13280684
but metoo only happened in the past year, two years at most

>>13280768
thankfully the nature of those people designates them to those boards they hate

>>13280783
Is this bait?

>>13280783
Actually /lit/izens are monastic Cenobites

>>13280780
essentialism is not performative as Spivak implies. it's literally essential.

>>13280801
You have to go back.

>>13280808
YOU have to go back you fucking pretender. Shouldn't it be a sign to you how much you have to lie?

>>13280779
the problem is we(and not only women) are being controlled and directed to debase ourselves and each other. we are constantly bombarded with propaganda that practically orders us to be ''free individuals'' whatever that means, surveilled constantly lest we express dangerous thoughts, told to consume and enjoy, not to worry about the future and not to wonder if the past might have been any better. The incels are just taking the systems propaganda at face value, they probably forgot to take their pills for the week, muh sex is the only thing that matters.

>>13280780
>>13280807
if "essentialism" is strategic, it is not essentialism by definition. its just another machiavellian trick by constructionists

>waaaah I hate trannies so much I became a cuckslave for Israel promoting trickle down economics
People who get memed into voting based entirely on social issues are retarded. Hence why /lit/'s nuright never post anything of value.

>>13280827
the nuright arent really pro-voting at all

>>13280827
>implying i'm a republican

>>13280815
no, essentialism is independent from strategy. you're conflating them together. a group of disabled people are disabled. they may or may not be united by a strategy.

>>13280811
it's the have sex posters that think it's about sex, incels are protesting their inequality.

the situation of incels is akin to prohibition in damage to society, the majority of criminals have always been incels.

btw i've had sex in the last 12 months and don't even count as one of the third of men that haven't.

>>13280827
this barely makes any sense

>>13280827
>implying the left takes a stance on israel

>>13280827
XD, comrade! My only regret is that I have but one upvote to give!
Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

>>13280450
Multiple reasons

>nowhere to discuss
A lot of right wingers are disenfranchised from most traditional forms of discussion, and as they tend to gain new knowledge that is considered taboo, they seek places to decompartmentalize. Anon forums are easy and effective.
>growing ideological followers
Neo-Liberalism has already been established for decades as the reigning unconscious ideology. It’s evident that more and increasing amount right wing posters means that they do indeed exist and in numbers that might be comparative to that of the dominate unconscious.
>more relevant ideas to discuss
This one is also due to neo-liberalism being so fleshed out and dominant over the decades. You can’t beat to death racism, sexuality, and the 1% much anymore without getting the same cliche arguments. More exciting discussions which the right wing tends to focus on will draw the bigger threads you’ve tended to see

Continue to expect the meta unconscious to move right.

>>13280815
what's wrong with machiavelianism? you can go all socrates in the agora, talk about beauty and the one to impressionable twinks at the symposia, but every polis needs strategoi, who can command the ship, who can go out and fight, or else it will go under. it isn't like the leftists, the managers and bureaucrats, are tolerant at all of philosophy or western culture, cultural marxism is a jealous god and will tolerate no other gods before it. we can debate finer points of metaphysical doctrine later, now it's the time to find common ground and prepare the defence of the city, and best defence is always an offence

>>13280840
>he majority of criminals have always been incels.
This is untrue, criminals tend to be low-inhibition, antisocial, extraverted, and stupid, which all correleate with higher amounts of sexual activity. Even literal rapists tend to have more consensual sex than average men

>>13280667
Other way around ;)

>>13280567
>>13280570
Ad hominem. No argument present. Posts discarded. There is no reason to be a radical. Philosophy should never be dogmatic. People are trash therefore politics is trash. You have to just ignore it and let human nature pervert it into its many forms. Only knowledge and the logos truly exist and are our teleological purpose. To be concerned with political ideology is to divert from personal pedagogy and indulge in public distractions. The majority of men and women are fools, and it is the majority who compose our government. The state is natural but that does not mean that the state is good or worthy of participating in it. The man who does not wish to rule at all is the wisest. Politics is the struggle for rule, strife composed of personal dogma that wishes to impose itself on a collective body.

>>13280476
based

>>13280857
some criminals sure, but for the most part they live lives destitute of women. the homeless for example, homeless men are essentially celibate, an author infiltrated hoover towns and wrote about it.

>>13280873
That's not centrism, that's machiavellian cynicism

>>13280879
Yes friend but I am not defending centrism. I am simply criticizing politics and political ideology. Centrism does the same by enacting a label onto itself and pushing an agenda much like the others.

>>13280886
centrism is pretending not having an opinion is an opinion and thinks that the status quo is correct so they essentially lean left. centrists are sjws who pretend to not be sjws.

>>13280768
Why the obsession with a feckless socdem podcast? Also the cancer killing 4chan is the influx of boomers and redditors who overran /pol/ in 2016 during the election. And if you refuse to acknowledge that happened you’re probably one of them.

>>13280834
Zur Judenfrage is an extended pub at Bruno Bauer’s expense

>>13280839
>essentialism is independent from strategy
that is my point, they are completely separate things. you can be essentialist who adopts certain strategies (to say there is an essence of blackness and act accordingly) or a constructionist who adopts certain strategies, but to adopt "essentialism" as a strategy is nothing more than a deliberate ruse. if you can claim there is an essence to blackness or not depending on how your day is going, you do not really adhere to essentialism.

>>13280908
I think the strategy is whether or not to foreground and highlight essentialized traits

>>13280908
>being this autistic
nobody cares about this except people who study philosophy most people act strategically, our enemies act strategically, if we want to win we should act strategically and take our enemies at face value

>>13280898
>t. butthurt liberal who came around 2015
4chan has had fringe political views in the majority since way before 2016, neoliberalism has never been the majority opinion on 4chan.

>>13280908
so if i understand you right:
deafness is essentialism
whiteness isn't essentialism

>>13280920
>NOT being this autistic
why are you here? you filthy pragmatist types belong on r*ddit.

>>13280834
Zur Judenfrage is an extended joke at Bruno Bauer’s expense, Judentum colloquially could mean either Judaism or commerce. When Marx wrote “Die gesellschaftliche Emanzipation des Juden ist die Emanzipation der Gesellschaft vom Judentum.” He meant something very different from what it is traditionally translated as.

>>13280450
The last stage is anarcho primitism where the most /lit/ people tell stories by the cave fire after a day of hunting bobcats and eating berries.

>>13280923
Lol I started browsing 4chan in 2011 and started on /b/ you dipshit. What the fuck are you talking about neoliberalism for, nowhere in my post do I mention it or imply that it was a majority opinion here at any time.

>>13280923
this, we were racist libertarians at best.

>>13280896
You aren’t precise enough in your depiction of the left. So just one inch leaning towards the left makes you an SJW? The characteristics of SJW ideology would place them at the very end of this political axis that you are alluding to. Perhaps a centrist is leaning left and is more to be considered a leftist but it’s position on the axis still leaves it far removed from both ends of this axis. Thus, truly making them a non-member of either groups. There isn’t anything inherently wrong with that. What’s wrong is trying to turn centrism into a political affiliation of its own. It doesn’t contribute anything to political discourse or resolve it. Perhaps if centrist ideology acted as a mediator between the two then it would make more sense. But again I hate this idea that one has to have an opinion on politics. Opinion is removed from what is true. Some only seek the truth and politics is a discipline of its own that needs to be studied and has unanswered questions. It is perfectly valid not to have an opinion on how a state should be run when no one actually knows the answer because if they did the history of civilization wouldn’t pan out the way it is. We can only study the political theorists before us and analyze and perhaps refine their ideas instead of trying to re-hash and pick sides as if it is some kind of sports competetion.

>>13280898

>>13280949
libertarians are just coping liberals.

>>13280948
>lol sweaty im actually an oldfag
Just go back, tourist.

>>13280950
again, the centrist supports the status quo and inherently has a bias. the centrist is not real.

>>13280955
>iPhone filename
QED

>>13280955
The difference is pic on the left wasnt making mental atrocities seep into the mainstream media which then the stupidest people fall for.

>>13280948
>started browsing 4chan in 2011
both a newfag and here in time to see the culture, get the fuck out of here liar.

>>13280956
what the fuck does that mean?

>>13280958
>2011 is oldfag
Lol imagine being this new. Go back to *eddit already.

>>13280960
>>13280966

>>13280967
it means exactly what i said. liberalism is increasing one's freedoms. libertarians are just edgy liberals who can't handle the label of liberal nor anarchy.

>>13280969
Epic reading comprehension, comrade!

>>13280969
he means you tried to drop your status like filthy reddit scum

>>13280582
>The left offers no real criticism of the establishment besides more diversity more inclusion, less whitey, more surveillance and corporatisation.
They're not left you fucking american.

>>13280918
if by "essentialized traits" you mean traits that are considered essential by others but really are just socially constructed, then again this is just ironic constructivism.
>>13280920
shut up fag don't you have a high school model UN meeting to study for
>>13280924
I'm simply saying essentialism is all or nothing

>>13280966
>mental atrocities
4chan is objectively less edgy than it was 10 years ago and there is no argument about this whatsoever. This website used to be absolutely inundated with gore, child pornography, raids and doxxing. Racism and sexism were so omnipresent they were just jokes rather than something to be taken seriously

>>13280967
there is not such thing as a liberal or libertarian or god forbid anarchist order in this planet earth and there never has been. politics is a struggle for domination between different ideologies and ways of life, if you value your way of life and dont want to be enslaved by cultural marxist theory, then yes you should support the radical right, you should be ready to be called a fascist or nazi, that's just the way it is, if the enemy is relentless and unwilling to compromise we should become as radical and as uncompromising as remorseless and as relentless as humanly possible. there is no other way

>>13280978
kay, we were racist liberals then, who hated obama as well as bush.

>>13280988
what does all or nothing even mean practically?

>>13280992
I support natsoc, which isn't really that right. I don't want to become a slave working for an inferior race.

>>13280966
the left is impossing a whole regime of mental atrocity upon society, and anyone who criticises it even slightly is as good as a nazi. society is being subverted at a mass scale by leftist forces, anonymous spaces are the only ones were criticism of this new ideology is still possible, it's not a surprise they'd be against it.

>>13280582
Christ kill yourself.

>>13280450
I've been saying this for a while now:

Newfags are not cut from the same cloth as oldfags prior to 2012. They're not the same bullied underdog geeks/nerds of yesteryear. I don't think those types of geeks/nerds even exist now.

Newfags these days seem to have such disdain for anime and videogames, it's wonder why they visit 4chan at all.

>>13281011
free speech too, don't forget that free speech is now an enemy of the liberals

>>13280996
it means you are either an essentialist or a constructivist. there can be no earnest mixture of the two within one position without producing a contradiction. Spivak's position is merely ironic opportunism.

>>13281011
>the left
It's clear that the corporate forces are doing everything possible to make sure that capitalist system continues running.

You're all so fucking thick but it's obvious that you have no sense of nuance.

>>13281035
then for once in your fucking lives talk about class instead of blacks and trannies you spineless 'socialist' faggots

>>13281019
>They're not the same bullied underdog geeks/nerds of yesteryear. I don't think those types of geeks/nerds even exist now
no, it's a growing group that only seems displaced by the mainstream of the internet.

>>13281035
>all right wingers are muh capitalism boogeyman
you fucking idiots need to stop this, the "alt-right" are the heaviest opponents of capitalism.

>>13280582
Why must people confuse left and liberal

Almost every Lefty I know irl despises liberals with a passion that’d make /pol/ blush

Sage for another non /lit/ politi-shit thread

>>13281055
because Leftists and Liberals run in absolute lock step on the anti whitemale rhetoric that takes up 90% of political discourse at this point

>>13281047
The right and left wing youth probably agree on almost everything but trannies and immigrants

>>13281034
hm ok i think i get what you're saying.
>>13281035
fuck the nuance. give us the real shit.

>>13281039
>then for once in your fucking lives talk about class instead of blacks and trannies you spineless 'socialist' faggots

We're not one monolithic group you jew-cucked faggot.

>>13281073
>ITT: I make up numbers

>>13281074
probably not

>>13281035
I am for the immediate overthrow and destruction of the system by any means neccesary, that is why I have found myself studying radical ideologies, from far left communism, to radical islam to the far right, slowly I have come to the bitter realisation that national socialism remains the only ideology that still brings fear into the little black hearts of the establishment pigs. I have endeavoured to concoct the most blasphemous the most radical and most satanic revolutionary synthesis ever devised, taking for groundwork the works of jim mason and the order of nine angles, and the practical revolutionary example of american icons such as charlie manson, mcveigh, reverend jones, the columbine boys.

>>13281074
immigrants are an easy argument, just allude those brainlets to the fact that it fucks over other countries and keeps the third world the third world. if you weren't allowed to leave your state every state in america would have competing tech companies and the economies would be more equal.

>>13280617
Literally this

>>13280614
Also important to remember many websites deliberately cracked down on rightwingers.

Wherever moderation allows free discussion, the Left struggles. It relies on the muzzling of its opponent to be dominant.

>>13280979
>>13280981
>lol u only came here in 2015
>actually man I’ve been here way longer than that but nice try
>hahah epic ownage u just tried to ‘drop ur status’ on me which means u r literally roddit
Come on now you two I know this is very different from the nested comment system you’re used to but do at least try to follow along.

>>13281106
kys, just fucking die.

>>13280768
There is absolutely nothing wrong with /co/ and it gets a disproportionate amount of hate.

>>13281074
the leftists are on the side of consumerism and conformity, the true nonconformists are on the right, i think the right wing youth of america are the true succesors to the radicals of the 60s and 70s.

>>13281115
t. Angela Nagle

>>13281001
True, the relevant conflict is between neoliberal corporatist crypto-authoritarians and ethnocentric quasi-traditionalist honest authoritarians.

The left/right paradigm is misdirection. OG leftists wouldn't have been ok with selling out their own ethnicity, and the right has just been fueling neoliberalism from different angles (maximized consumption, cheap labour, corporate power, the deification of GDP).

>>13280464
Fpbp

>>13281115
yeah, not to mention all advertisements associating themselves with left wing values.

>>13280614
>This idea is revisionist history promoted by R*dditors.

You know that's a lie right? But you know this and the fact that 4chan doesn't have real archives like other sites means that any bullshit that is constantly perpetuated becomes truth here.

4chan is an SA spin-off and leaned in a similar way to SA until the last 9 or so years as 4chan started leaning right.

anyone read this book? it's literally the inspiration of nazism. however, the author renounced nazism later on. so, it could be a source for interesting right wing thoughts.

>>13281115
>the leftists are on the side of consumerism and conformity

Are you psy ops so that the capitalist system stays in place?

>>13280614
You do realize 4chan was around for

Why does Chapo Trap House trigger every right wing person on /lit/? Is it because they view them as a threat or something? I can’t view /lit/ without some loser crying about how Chapo is poisoning the well or some shit. Calm down, they’re just dem soc’s who shit talk.

Seriously, it’s a podcast, calm down lmao

>>13281130
>written in 1923
the nazis had already started by then.

>>13281137
theyre pathetic and easy to make fun, that's why they 'trigger'(are made fun of on) lit

>>13281133
respond to >>13281124 please, tell me how lefties aren't capitalist sheep. maybe it's not you, but it's who you associate with, the baizuo

>>13281143
the formation of nazism is a continuum not a punctuated point of the history anon.

Honestly, so much of the rise of right-wing thought on 4chan seems to have come precisely from the sort of edgy contrarianism that has always marked 4chan. That's not to say that it's not genuine. What I mean is: when Obama was elected in 2008, progressivism was everywhere, and a kind of left-libertarian streak was dominant in American, and more broadly Western, politics. 2008-2016 was what one might call the "heyday" of 4chan; it's when the vast, vast majority of current Anons joined the site. As Obama's presidency continued, 4chan's natural contrarian tendencies drove interest in right-wing thought.

The trouble is, we ALSO all remembered Dubya, and the Bush Administration, and we all fucking hated them. Even today, every right-winger on this site hates Bush, Cheney, and all the other neocons.

So we asked ourselves: "Is there a way to be right-wing that doesn't involve becoming a neocon?"

And that led us to discover de Maistre, Spengler, Evola, Guenon, etc.. And so, here we are.

>>13280666
gamergate ruined this website and it ruined the internet

>>13281152
>And that led us to discover de Maistre, Spengler, Evola, Guenon, etc.. And so, here we are.
this actually happened on the internet in the early 2000s, culminating in things like Unqualified Reservations being launched in 2007

>>13281150
it can't be the inspiration if the nazis have already gotten together you dip. if anything it's the other way around.

>>13281156
On the broader internet, yes, but I'm trying to talk about specifically what happened on 4chan. Although I'd agree that Moldbug and the rest of the early alt-right crowd played a part in 4chan's transformation as well.

>>13281159
ok dude. this guy named the third reich. if you don't think that it's an inspiration for nazism, then idk dipshit.

>>13280782
this photo is so depressing
i feel as though, even if you are right wing, you must despair at this photo... THIS is the state of your movement? A bunch of petulant low-IQ charlatans. Embarrassing...

>>13281174
Why would you think a handful of jews and good goyim peddling at most neoconservatism are the 'right wing'

>>13281169
I don't. you could say the inspiration for natsoc goes back to schopenhauer with his naming of the northern races as superior and the general volkisch movement of the 19th century, or the protocols of the learned elders of zion, written 1903.

>>13281174
good thing we're not pundit obsessed appealers to authority like the left or that would be pretty bad.

>>13281196
>>13281181

you seem triggered

>>13281206
Good one.

>>13281206

>>13281174
Not all of us are wedded to those jokers. Those of us who are Catholic certainly aren't.

>>13280450
>posting on an anonymous message board
>'gee why is this board so popular with racists and pedos'
>a mystery that will never be solved

>>13280464
fpbp
>>13280565
At least the nazis have Wagner and Hugo Boss. What the fuck do centrists have? CNN?

>>13281137
because they think they are edgy but they are not, they think they are so cool because they make fun of neoliberal boomers, like that wasn't the easiest thing in the world but won't go near the real holy cows of the left like trannies. I'm 18 year old and chapos are like boomers to me, i don't believe in civility if you are against me I will destroy you. you a tranny? you TS man? I just want to make clear I consider you and enemy, and I'm willing to fight you, if you ever come close to me I will fight you I WILL beat you up.

>>13280505
White men are being shut out from contemporary literature. You might think this is long overdue. Fine. But where should these men go? Should they disappear? Should they never talk about books again? Should they never read again? Should they never write again?

How do you quash the creative spirit of a people? Especially those people whose ancestors are the backbone of Western literature? The answer is simple: you don't, because you can't. The impulse remains.

So what happens when these men are systematically nudged from traditional publishing? From talking about old books written by their own? Do you think they won't notice the shift? What do you think their reaction will be? Do you expect them to join those who'd quiet them forever?

Of course not. What happens is /lit/, and the culture of /lit/. Naturally it slants rightward. Given today's situation, only masochists side with the left.

>RIGHT WING LARPERS VS LEFT WING LARPERS

Lmao the internet is the greatest thing made to pacify you dolts desu. God being bougie these days must be such a fucking trip

>>13281329
>only masochists side with the left.
don't forget the sadists

>>13281355
>*hits pipe*

>>13280450
>not radical centrist misanthrope
shame

I'm not sure how people can be liberals after Dostoevsky, if nothing else, the man made a forceful argument for tradition, and against utopianism and rationalism, which are the two primary ingredients of liberalism.

>>13281382
>not esoteric hitlerist national socialist revolution waging unrestricted warfare on the zog machine system

>>13281386
People are stupid and love to delude themselves. You'd think there wouldn't be any Marxists left in the world after the fall of the Soviet Union, yet there are a bunch of them.

>>13281035
>be a white guy
>call yourself a socialist
>realize your ideology has been entirely coopted by capitalism
>can't turn any argument back to class without being labelled a racist, sexist, etc.
>repeatedly told to shut up
>told to clap when corporations make token shows of "inclusion" and fly the rainbow flag
>totally emasculated
>only place to show BIG LEFTY MUSCLE is on an anonymous chapbook-stitching message board
>"uh um there's a BIG difference btw LEFT and LIBERAL, ur all so fucking thick"

Step away from the computer, take a long walk, and sort out your self-hatred

>>13281074
its not left vs right but rather cultural marxism backed by all major corporations vs anyone who opposes cultural marxism. If i previously sympathised with leftism is because i thought, unconsciously, it was the best vehicle for the (western) cultural values the left and its capitalist allies are now working to destroy.

is leftism inherently and irreversibly coopted by capitalism? has neoliberalism succeed that much?

>>13280513
Thanks for contributing. Didn't expect this thread to go anywhere.

>>13280650
Joel?

>>13281431
>is leftism inherently and irreversibly coopted by capitalism? has neoliberalism succeed that much?

Undoubtedly. Consider how far the argument's moved from workers' rights. If you're older than 30, you might remember a time when "globalism" was the perennial target of left-wing street protests. Gatherings of the G8, G20, etc.: hoards of leftists shouting to end the globalist menace. Unions fought immigration, and fought Chamber of Commerce Republicans who lobbied for immigration, because immigration lowers the cost of wages.

Look where we are today. Look how fucking SUNK we are. There is no left. The left is dead. Neoliberalism won.

>>13280782
People like you are worse than tripfags. I see people try to claim that they managed to meme a thinker into relevance here all the time, and they're almost invariably demonstrable liars.

>>13280984
They certainly seem to think that they are, and do does everybody else.

>>13280513
>Also why Contrapoints will never be effective, he stinks of normieshit and reddit.

Don't forget: Contrapoints is also viscerally repulsive. He's the living embodiment of neoliberal corruption, perversion, excess. Can you imagine any self-respecting communist siding with that thing? He'd be the first to the gulag.

>>13280746
You could not be more wrong. 90% of leftyposting on /his/ is from Reddit. Dubchan is a sump for /pol/ rejects.

>>13281468
this. and if youre a lefty siding with today's brand of leftism i got bad news: youre a stooge to its hegemony bud

>>13280614
No, you're retarded. The overwhelming majority of 4chan's culture was defined by the technology sector (libertarian whites who threw in with Ron Paul and inevitably ended up disillusioned).

/pol/ was fairly libertarian for a long time even in the lead up to the election (it was obviously a minority position by then, but unabashed Nazism wasn't well-developed beyond Hitler memes, not the way that it is now). You can go look at Stormfront archives, they made coordinated efforts to post pasta to the board in an effort to take it over. This is also around the time that there was an influx of boomers (though that is more attributable to the election than anything).

Lots of boomers were radicalized by WN in the 1990s on the ground level. David Duke himself was a state representative in Louisiana. The economy got better and people stopped caring as much. Then 2011 happened and it was only a matter of time before the motorcycle gangs, wignats, drug dealers, truckers in Eastern Washington, militias, and organized white nationalist groups began to grow. The young people on Stormfront were almost invariably Europeans or Boers (it's a common misconception that WN ideology moves from America to Europe, because we think of the KKK in the American South, but there are tons of organized nationalist groups in Europe, and they started organizing significantly earlier than the Americans due to easier availability of cheap education and the pressing issue of the migrant crisis - these groups were forming as early as 2011). The American posters, by contrast, were mostly these boomers who had been radicalized by groups like the National Front in the 1990s.

>>13280624
What did Anon mean by this?

>>13280625
This is actually an improvement (unironically)

>>13280643
There was always fat people, retard, and nigger stories (or at least there has been since as long as I've been here), but those didn't have the genocidal enmity in them that they do today. It was just part of an anarchic realization that you could say what you really felt without repressing yourself. It's taken on a different character now.

>>13280640
Those are NazBols and they are mostly on Twitter as well as any thread that tangentially mentions Russia.

>>13281514
It's pretty easy to push White Nationalist propaganda when the mainstream press is openly shitting on white people and you can't even defend yourself. What do you expect?

>>13281514
so the boomer meme is true after all

>>13280450
Just left overs from the peterson zizek debate

>>13280728
>If you have a consistent set of beliefs with any kind of rigor to them, you're not going to be buffeted around the political spectrum like a bag in the wind
Maybe if you're low IQ.

>>13281543
>the internet starts at peterson vs zizek
imagine being this new

>>13280450
If your distinction made 90% of people on 4chan redditors, is it a good distinction?

how about "people grew up"? honestly when you go out to the real world you either work and hit reality face first or deny it and blame capitalism.
if you're over 23 and a leftist you're a retard in denial, newfags that were 14, 15, way back when are finishing college and entering the workforce, they already got fucked by affirmative action and now their hard earned salary is going to get taxed into a lower class income to subsidize refugees lifestyles

>>13280768
I don't really like the image. Ironyfags predate the Reddit incursion. Same with the underage meme. I guess frogposting and attention whoring is accurate, though, but again, not sure how much that's a Reddit exclusive thing.

>>13281549
No, just this wave of lit stupidity

>>13280898
Based.

>>13281550
Yes, GG did a number on this place

Probably around the time the Alt Right started trying to take over.

>>13281555
if the jobs themselves don't go to someone undeserving. probably the most annoying thing about multiculturalism and feminism is the untalented and undeserving people getting promoted through it, like a black narrator with a shitty narrating voice or the female only engineer team that killed a bunch of people.

>>13280898
>the cancer killing 4chan is the influx of boomers and redditors who overran /pol/ in 2016 during the election

Correct, but you're missing the most important ingredient: phoneposting.

Phoneposters are serially low-effortposting, fucking literal niggerbrains. They use the website like Twitter, scrolling through for things to "like" or "dislike" by posting the lowest possible effort, 1-3 word response to it, like "edgy." It's a twitter chatroom to them, not a discussion forum. Fucking GAS PHONEPOSTERS NOW. SMASH THEIR FUCKING HEADS IN.

>>13280970
>just turn your brain off
This was from /tv/ to Reddit not the other way around.

>>13281581
Dude, this website is designed to be accessed by phone. The rise in phone posters simply means most of us can't stay away from this madhouse :)

>>13281592
>this post

>>13281571
>>13281570

maybe it's the left started to take over society at large and all niches of human activity and subcultures, facilitated by capitalists that realise its easier to manage an ideologically homogenous society. the modern left is not even marxist, it is a mixture of therapeutic discourse, slave morality, a christian like missionary zeal- they must believe what we believe, and a politics of the interest of the bureaucratic managerial class.

>>13281084
>ITT: Leftynigger buries his head in the sand but still acts exactly like the Redditor he is pretending he isn't

>>13281019
They exist on wizchan.

>>13281137
Did anyone even mention them ITT or is this just bait?

>>13281595
Yes but that doesn't mean you have to turn into a nazi just to get back at a couple of trashcan kickers, grow up and have sex

>>13281152
>>13281156
Good posts.

>>13281594
I try

>>13280565
nice b8 m8

>>13281155
Insofar as it gave rise to the archetypal frogposter (low IQ, no friends, "Kekistan," dubposting), sure, but that was just one step in a much longer process.

>>13281073
>tfw trying to convince an otherwise smart marxist friend, on the basis of his own principles and things he has already agreed to, that importing ten trillion niggers who only care about access to cheap consumerism is bad for local labor politics
>tfw trying to convince him that all the trannies using his movement as a "Big Tent" for jacking eachother off is killing camaraderie
>tfw trying to show him that all the best organizers in his movement being systematically attacked and ostracized (because they were white males) by the weakest, most feckless members of his movement is bad for his movement
>tfw trying to ask him why he thinks his globalist internationalism is being eagerly promoted by capitalists as well

It's weird that there are still people who use 4chan, or any imageboards for that matter, who aren't reactoids considering that you'd have to really hate yourself to use imageboards if you aren't a white reactoid dude. And as someone else said in the thread, if you're a white guy there's not much incentive to be a progressive type.

>>13281602
what's wrong with being a nazi? it's the only genuine way to be truly anti establishment and be a real human being. I believe there is a life beyond meaningless tinder sex and being forcefed leftist prolefeed one is not allowed to criticise while culture is abolished. If you are white and have an artistic romantic temperament, you will by necessity turn to the right, whereas only a few years ago you would have been a leftist.

>>13281609
Hey, we got to get a lot of ad revenue pulled from Gawker and frankly that's all that matters

>>13281619
>what's wrong with being a nazi
A lot, check out Gravity's Rainbow.

>>13281602
>grow up and have sex

This kind of condescension is unironically why I became a Nazi

I don't like your social shaming and I don't like your ugly little mind and I don't like how you subordinate truth to social acceptability and one day I will kill you for subjecting me to years and years of having to see your disgusting kind control this demented upside-down society for as long as you somehow managed to control it

>>13281631
>This kind of condescension is unironically why I became a Nazi

lol

>>13281609
showing your newfaggotry, dubsposting is going on a decade older than gamergate faggotry

for real, no jokes: stay on reddit please

>>13281602
nah. If other races get to be ethnocentric than Im going to be too

>>13281631
>I don't like your social shaming and I don't like your ugly little mind and I don't like how you subordinate truth to social acceptability
And yet you call yourself Nazi, curious

>>13281646
Other "races" don't have quite the record of racial discrimination, incel.

>>13281631
>This kind of condescension is unironically why I became a Nazi
>literally admitting that you became a nazi because you got cyberbullied on laotian pizza boards

>>13281655
Libyans are enslaving blacks literally right now you clueless twat

>>13281655
..Who do you think we bought African slaves from?

Africans.

>>13281630
all the icons of the leftist counterculture of the 60s, people like Pynchon, Burroughs, Ginsberg, R Crumb, Zappa are personas non gratas amongst the modern left. why could that be?

>>13281536
I'm not saying it wasn't a natural result, I'm just saying that there was a process of colonization. Duke didn't like 4chan at first because it used to raid Stormfront (because, again, despite what retards here will tell you, the site was still defined by shock value back then - think Chanology rather than /pol/). Once some guys made the case that 4chan was an open platform, they started moving here. Now Duke is a Twitter shitposter.

I think they called the program BUGS. It was basically just a GUI for boomers to copy and paste text to 4chan or other message boards (and in hindsight could have been a honeypot), but it was part of a trend towards their migration.

>>13281130
>Implying material conditions didn't cause the rise of fascism in Germany

>>13281655
Nice bait

>>13281667
Probably all the shitposting on pol

>>13281684
Hey, prove me wrong

>>13281679
Those Stormfaggots have no idea what they're doing. I knew a bunch of them in real life and it's serious grandpa on the internet syndrome. I have strong doubts that any of them accomplished anything. They're the epitome of retard boomers.

You could easily tell the stormfags on /pol/ because they were the ones who didn't get or participate in the humor at all, again just posted like grandpa on the internet. Weirdly tonedeaf, weirdly out of touch and out of place, yet still bizarrely racist to the point that it seems more butthurt than funny? You got yourself a Stormfag.

Nowadays it's impossible to tell though because /pol/ is completely overtaken by middle-aged retards from twitter who have no idea how to use it. I know of multiple middle-aged women who browse /pol/. For every one of those, there are probably 50 Facebook normies who are harder to detect. The overall effect is that the board is lost to white noise. The only thing stemming the tide are the foreign posters, who are still authentic 4chan but increasingly drowned out by your Kekistani aunt Patty.

>>13281655
says the guy who never had a candid chat with a chinese person

>>13281382
At this point I've stopped caring t b h. My life goal at this point is to save up enough money to move to Alaska and live in a cabin where I don't have to deal with other people.

>>13281691
Racisim is more than just edgy shitposting on pol, retard.

>>13281700
>>13281685
Stop posting from your fucking phone and go back to Revleft.

>>13281701
dilate

>>13281700
Agreed. Racism is Han Chinese chauvinism when dealing with Africans, South Americans, Southeast Asians, Indians, etc. Historically speaking, their racism — whereby foreigners, including whites, were quite literally regarded as lesser beings — met and often exceeded the level of contempt that Europeans showed the races they conquered. Racism is universal.

>>13281731
It's also white teenagers and manchildren shitposting about minorities on Mongolian basket weaving tapestries, but you don't see me kvetching about it oi

>>13281019
I'm autistic about and get obsessed with things that bore people but I also hate most anime (five centimeters per second was good) and try to avoid sulking online. I do have trouble keeping friends longterm, I guess, but other than that you'd probably class me with your newfags (though I did get here in 2013).

>>13280492
Or perhaps it's more like, with the confidence that the mainstream has their back morally / culturally, lefties lazily fall back to this sort of "have sex incel" retort when challenged on their worldview, which is cathartic in the short term but delegitimizing in the long term

>>13281685
>>13281630

all the cultural referents that encouraged you to be a leftist in the first place are now denounced by the left, while the things you were taught to hate like massive corporations, consumer culture and the military industrial complex now shill for leftist ideas. don't you feel at least a little confused?

>>13281742
you have literally been kvetching about it you colossal retard

>>13281751
anime weebsite, bub.

>>13281692
>I know of multiple middle-aged women who browse /pol/
I see them on Frogtwitter and they are invariably not even white, just Castizos. I still try to convince myself that it's just larping, because if even women are noticing the problem, it's likely worse than I would have estimated.

Definitely feel you on the grandpa on the internet syndrome. It's gotten markedly worse recently.

>>13281760
no I'm just stating basic facts. not my fault you're getting DESTROYED by them

>>13281766
the 'white nationalist' hispanic demographic is bizarrely large

>>13281774
latinos are white

>>13281643
I know it predates GG, what I'm saying is that the sort of retard who throws in with the Kekistan meme also tends to have an enormous frog folder and compulsively checking dubs (I personally have over 400 just of Apu, so that by itself doesn't make someone a retard, but taken in context, there usually tends to be a cluster of traits). These are also your retards talking about meme magic who still haven't realized that we aren't winning anymore.

If you go watch some of the footage from HWNDU, you get a fairly good approximation of the sort of retard I'm talking about.

>>13281762
None of the boards I've liked have ever had much anime on them. I am a newfag, though, so take that for what it's worth.

>>13281774
if they taught of themselves as white pettit bourgeoisie is actually quite a downgrade to become another intersectional victimhood group. our age's obsession with identity is actually a symptom of the loss of identity as represented by religious beliefs and a geographically grounded community, nowadays you are either subsumed into the progressive intersectional blob or you are a white nationalist, this leads to bizarre situations.

when did we get /int/ and stuff like country flags?

just wondering if the constant "banter" between nationalities/ethnicities/continents on flag boards gave birth to these developments, or if it's the other way around and they just keep fueling each other

>>13281801
/int/ used to be one of the best boards on the site if not the best because it was constant bantz, rivalled /sp/ in raw shitpost culture

I think generals ruined it

>>13280582
Old (50+) ex-Leftie here. The Left is the establishment now, and it cannot abide even the least criticism. That is a big part of what drove me to the right, that and the fact that I am white and I do not hate white people. 30 years ago that was not a problem on the Left, but today it makes you some kinda neon Nazi. So be it, then, it is better than hate, especially hating myself.

>>13281774
Agree. This goes back to the whole thing about how you can make an Irishman fight a nigger if you tell the Irishman that he's white. Latinos (Filipinos in my experience but I would imagine Latinos in general) love machismo. Look at Duterte. So when you have a guy like Trump using CivNat positions, of course he attracts some Latinos, who are then accused by white bread college kids of being Nazis, and then end up starting to internalize some of that, just like how the whole NazBol movement got traction - all of us were Russian bots, and then some people started to look towards Russia admirably.

>>13280582
>The left offers no real criticism of the establishment besides more diversity more inclusion, less whitey, more surveillance and corporatisation.

>>13281816
passive aggressive faggot

>>13281809
>neon Nazi

PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A THING

>>13281731
Progressivism is a religion and its central devotional act is denouncing white ethnocentrism as the ultimate and original evil

>>13281816
Imagine cropping a 4chan post to look more like a tumblr post

please stop replying to this thread you're sucking away all the posters from all the other good threads

>>13280984
They are the only left that gets on T.V.

I went far right as soon as I realized that I wasn't actually transgender and would never be a woman. Maybe not far right, but definitely strasserist or NazBol

>>13281846
>>13281820
lmao gottem

>>13281825
Fashwave

>>13281805
/sp/ is indeed behind many memes and macros that we take for granted today. i don't think it's too crazy to suggest that the first sparks of this site's perpetual race wars occurred on there in some inflamed tournament thread, where there were one too many
>italians
>white
posted

>>13281805
you are 100% correct
t. helped create the indian designated shitting street meme

>>13281876
thank you for your service

>>13281876
You broke the Pajeets, they post like 300 cuckspam threads a day on /pol/ now

Diead to lefty scum

>>13281039
Class is too limited to use as a manipulative tool, even the Marxists gave it up since no one in the more well off Capitalist countries gave a shit about it once their standard of living got high enough, now it is all about intersectionalism...
Socialism is never an end in itself, it is a tool used to dertroy and tear down society so that new rulers may come to power.

>>13281879
>>13281881
ahh those were the days, pals

>>13281766
>not even white, just Castizos.
Hispanic women and men are redpilled as fuck.

>>13281001
>Slave for inferior race

How are you this stupid

>>13281876
>helped create
Dude, just STFU. You didn't create anything, you're just some tryhard faggot from Reddit who wants to be able to pretend he's played a significant role in *anything* by exerting the most minimal effort possible - that is, reposting a meme he had nothing to do with.

>>13281901
For themselves. Chinks are race woke. That doesn't mean I want to live among chinks.

>>13281096
Living in the US is not a human right LOL, no matter how loudly or often the MSM says it is. The times are changing, the pendulum has been pushed very, very far and it is starting on its inevitable return swing. Inevitable.

>>13281115
I agree.

>>13281909
yeah you caught me cowboy i'm guilty

>>13280505
It's not so great for white women either who refuse to play along. Frankly I am terrified of how much support Islam is gaining in the west. That and legally allowing trannies into women's rest rooms and change rooms and crisis shelters. The left is too soft on crime and anti gun - women need to be able to protect themselves.

>>13281196
> /pol/tards
>Not bootlickers

You sure about that

>>13281810
>This goes back to the whole thing about how you can make an Irishman fight a nigger if you tell the Irishman that he's white
i never understood why irish people weren't considered white
is it because of their looks or their behaviour?

>>13281934
post feet right now

>>13281468
I am over 40 and I never thought I would see the day that so called anarchists and socialists would be out on the street protesting in favour of globalism, war, and the policies of the Democratic Party. They call me a right winger now but I am still antiwar, antiglobalist, and I refuse to hate myself just because I am white. The left left me, and if they insist on attacking me because of my race I will fight back by any means necessary. So fuck them.

>>13281955
Couldn't be either of those :^)

>>13281468
>>13281493
can the left even protest immigration that comes in the form of refugees? like doesn't the humanitarian aspect trump everything else?

>>13281648
Yeah, makes you think, doesn't it? Nazis aren't what you expected, now are they?

>>13281989
if the irish don't look white then neither do the english

>>13281655
Izzat so?

>>13282015
englishmen are dysgenic jughead looking motherfuckers for real

>>13281476
Im literally Guenonfag though

>>13280582
Based.

OI OI'M WHOITE INNIT

>>13282040
KEK

>>13282040
i sincerely cannot understand why brits (and frequently slavs) adopt that hairstyle of just combing everything forward. you're always gonna look like you've just crawled out of a sewer pipe

>>13280698
Good point.

>>13280729
>>13280984
define 'left', then.
Left-right came from French Revolution thinking - left meaning people are innately equal, right believing in natural hierarchies. Reality demonstrates daily people are not innately equal. Equal rights under the law is not the same thing as equality btw. And certainly not equality of outcome.

>>13281035
Monopoly capitalism, not free enterprise.
LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

>>13282059
maybe they think they're emulating the roman look

>>13282043
>>13282040
>>13282015
why are you picking the worst examples it's obvious there are freaks and outliers in every race ...

>>13282041
I reiterate.

>>13281039
Sure. People who are lower class have poor impulse control are kinda stupid, have disproportionately high drug or alcohol problems and lack the ability to plan for the future. Those negative traits are passed through families-a combo of genes and environment.
That the left is blind to this reality is why their policies fail. In fact the leaders often know they will fail so they take on posing as a person who can fix these protracted social problems in order to enrich themselves or have a guaranteed career.

>>13281825

>>13281957
I'd have to cut my toenails first :(

>>13281995
When 'refugees' are crossing oceans or traversing a dozen countries to get to the one with the most generous social assistance they are not refugees.

>>13280853
Based image

>>13281774
Castizos have predominantly European blood, it's not surprising that many would rather hitch their wagon to whites rather than accept invetiable dilution into the fecund mestizo population.

>>13281781
nope
castizos = mostly white
mestizos = a tiny bit white at most, not enough to qualify

Ive always been decently right wing. But i now have a respect for Mosley, mussolini, and other far right guys after reading their works. The only side i haven't looked into is Japan sadly. I need some recommendations for that to be honest.

>>13280930
>it wasn't true anti-semitism
...I'm done...

>>13281619
Based post

>>13280582
This board really went to shit huh

>>13282893
Don't worry, I'm still here, and rest assured that I am very, very smart. You're welcome.