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Should I start with 1984 or Animal Farm?

>> No.13266609

>>13266588
They're both awful

>> No.13266631

>>13266588
1984: When authoritarian regimes go wrong
Animal farm: When revolutions go wrong


Both are good books and only tankies detest Orwell.

>> No.13267017

>>13266588
Animal Farm is the better book. 1984 is more of a political thesis then a novel.

>> No.13267075

I’d say 1984

>> No.13267574

>>13266588
Start with Homage to Catalonia

>> No.13267612

>>13266588
I have that edition it's really nice. As is the book.

>> No.13267621

>>13266588
1984
>>13266609
nope
>>13267017
nope
>>13267612
yep

>> No.13268763

>>13266588
Animal Farm is shorter, but I'd recommend you 1984. It was my first book read.

>> No.13269048

>>13266609
Based

>> No.13269053

I bought Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave new world as a bundle. I'm reading Brave new world atm and like 1/3 of the book is some kind of comments from 2 dudes or something. Should I read them? They are kinda talking about his other books and about the time and stuff. Anybody knows what I'm talking about? Sorry to highjack the thread but I didn't want to make a thread for this.

>> No.13269295

>>13266588
Brave new world
>>13266609
Really? Explain to me how they are. I think the ideas within them are incridbly important

>> No.13269353

obviously We by Zamyatin. everything else is just a copycat

>> No.13269474

>>13266609
Fpbp

>> No.13269505

>>13267017
1984 is great--romantic and atmospheric. Animal Farm is alright--gimmicky and heavy handed, favoured by the asexual nerd and the simpleton.

>> No.13269511

>>13269353

>> No.13269512

>>13269295
Brave New World sucks.

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13269515

>>13266588
daily reminder that both novels are good in their own right and the only people who talk down on them are young people who still believe that being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian is equivalent to having a real personality or real opinions

>> No.13269527

>>13269515
>disliking something that happens to be popular automatically makes you insincere and contrarian

>> No.13269541

mild spoilers in this post

1984 is unrealistic based on the assumption that the masses are really, really dumb, and will always remain so.

People generally don't like it when an authoritarian regime prevents them from having physical sex or kills their family members or friends.

Dictatorships always fail because the more people you kill, imprison, or oppress, the more rebels you create.
still, its kind of an interesting read, and a bit depressing.
I feel like it would be more realistic if it was a tiny island dystopia where everyone was heavily medicated.

Brave New World is basically "hey lets control everyone based on their IQs", as if capitalism doesn't do that on its own and much more efficiently.

I would say Animal Farm is the most enjoyable to read, followed by Fahrenheit 451. 1984 can be skipped unless you're trying to teach students about the dangers of government surveillance.

>> No.13269546

>>13269053
Read it if you want to, it is not relevant to the actual book but it helps to understand the author and his mindset when writing it.

>> No.13269573

>>13269541
based all the way up until you implied Fahrenheit 451 isn't a total meme

>> No.13269668

>>13269546
I'm afraid to spoil myself something so I probl read it after the book

>> No.13269848

Any interesting dystopian novels you can reccomend ? (From the top of my head) i've read 1984,animal farm,We,bnw,farenh,Anthem,the giver,the children of men,the running man,battle royale,clockwork,never let me go...maybe some hidden gems ?

>> No.13269874

>>13269848
The Hunger Games
The Fault in Our Stars
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Dianetics
Dark Star Rising: Magick and Power in the Age of Trump
The Handmaid's Tale

>> No.13269914

>>13269848
I got dune in my backlog so maybe that ?

>> No.13269964

>>13269874
Completely forgot about the handmaiden's tale. Was keeping that one for a time just like this and forgot about it. Thanks for the remainder anon
>>13269914
I'll give it a try. Altho it seems a bit more on the sci fi side. ( watched the move on vhs )

>> No.13270014

>>13269541
people are really really dumb tho

>> No.13271261

>>13266588
the republic

>> No.13271395

>>13269541
Perhaps stupid, but I always kind of assumed dystopian novels were supposed to be at least a bit exaggerated to make a point.

>> No.13271403

>>13266588
read Isaiah Berlin's essays, they are reasonably understandable, you get a quick rundown of the 18th and 19th century and enough philosophers get name dropped that you eventually will know where to go from there