/lit/ - Literature

>>13049441

NO.

ERUDITE IDIOTS ARE WORSE THAN IGNORANT IDIOTS; GO AWAY.

>>13049441
This isn't Evola, but have you ever checked out the Futurist Manifesto?

You are not going to leech off our board-average 147 IQ, seething /pol/tard

>>13049456
>>13049475
>leftist bigotry at It's finest

Guenon is better, but Evola isn't without merit.

>>13049441
Fucking get out

>>13049441
Have sex. Get some sleep. No more advice is coming.

>>13049441

Information won't do an already malfunctioning brain any good.

>>13049441
Ok look the books from him that should interest You the most are Ride the Tiger, Men amongst the Ruins. He was an inside-critic of both Mussolini and Hitler and continued to be after the war.
He believed in the Eternal Tradition. You might want to also read Guenon to understand the details. To be absolutely short and reductive he was a pre-enlightment thinker, in that the basys of his thought is not in any modernist ideology or philosophy. Fascismo to him was a mean to the end of preserving the Eternal Tradition and his Theory of Races (a pretty secondary part of his thought) is more based on the Spiritual difference than one race and another than to the physical.
More than anything We could say that like Guenon he opposed the "Theology of Progress".
Here I gave You some tidbits, now It's up to You to walk down This road.

>>13049456
>a tripfag that only writes in capslock
>having the right to call anyone idiot ever.

>>13049489
>so much for the tolerant left
very funny, now go to gulag

>>13049827
Nobody ever called You tollerant.
Now get up on the train. Dachau is far.

>these retards don't even meme
someone post it

>>13049942

>>13049959

>>13049489
>it's finest
>it is finest

>>13049441
He has some decent critiques of modernity, but he isn’t the untouchable savior a lot of people would have you think he is. He also had a penchant for weird mysticism.

>>13049973
tl;dr and trying too hard

>>13049982
>but he isn’t the untouchable savior a lot of people would have you think he is
Who in this thread?
Who in This board?
Who ever?

All you need to know is that he tried to LARP as the ubermensch by walking around during air raids and got himself crippled because of it

>>13050028
Pol, the alt-right, etc. I assume that’s how OP heard about it.

He's a magician. Read his books on yoga, tantra, sex magic, ur group magic, alchemy, and buddhism.

>>13050070
this meme is like 8 years old newfaggot retard
>Pol
jesus christ lurk

>>13050070
/pol/ criticizes both him and Guenon harshly.
I really can't say who You refer to when You talk about people considering Evola a "saviour"

>>13049827
literally cringier than /pol/

Evola. Julius. Never read him, have to buy his books from amazon. Prefer stealing.

>>13050278
I find Evola at Half-Price Books all the time.

Evola is /ourguy/

>>13050248
Nah

>>13049489
Read Decline of the West, the Futurist Manifesto, the Doctrine of Fascism and the Concept of the Political. If you want a quick crash course read Mosley's 100 Questions Asked and Answered.

Do not read Evola until you're actually a fascist and are ready to engage with an autistic mysticist who, far from being a foundational (pre or post-war) fascist

>>13050335
>far from being a foundational (pre or post-war) fascist,
...just kind of glommed onto fascism as the closest thing to his particular right-wing ideals. Evola wasn't a fascist, and he wasn't a national socialist, he was a reactionary and his ideas for a "true right" (as opposed to what he disdained, rightists copying tactics from the left) reflect this.

>>13049441
>Tell me about Julius Evola
Why does he wear the monocle?!

Take it from me i’m about as far right as it comes.


There’s better material than evola, his ideas on spirituality are pleb tier and you should study proper esotericism instead and as for his politics there are better sources for that also.


Read him if you want but I don’t recommend it.

>>13049441
Is Evola some sort of meme here?
Also I only find his books written in Italian for obvious reasons. Is /lit/ actually reading them in Italian? I doubt so.

>>13051132
If not all, at least most of his work has been translated in to English.

>>13049441
Step 1. Leave /pol/
Step 2. Read Men Among The Ruins
Step 3. Read Revolt Against The Modern World
Step 4. Read Ride The Tiger

Congrats

>>13051132
Almost all of his works are in english and you can find them pretty easily on Amazon or e-book sites
He isnt a meme but people like OP certainly dont help his case

>>13051130
>study proper esotericism
Which is what

>>13051130
t. schizo anon shilling his pseud spiritualism blog

>>13051381

If you’re studying esotericism you want to think about what you’re actually interested in.


You can for example study Neoplatonism and other Greek thought. Plotinus and proclus are great. Or if you want into the modern occult scene you’ll need to study some hermeticism like in the corpus hermeticum. If you want really modern stuff you’ll need to familiarize yourself with liber ABA, if you want certain forms of paganism relevant texts are easy enough to find as long as its mostly Roman and Greek material you want. If you want abrahamic material study Jewish Kabbalah and proper Rosicrucianism, I recommend aryeh Kaplan for your introduction to kabbalah and as for Rosicrucianism study of a bit of all of the above and some general alchemical texts then read Jacob Bohme.


There’s a lot to western occultism and if you want eastern esotericism that is itself another very massive nuanced field.

>>13050356
What's your opinion on Serrano?

>>13051400
What have you studied that you thought was interesting?

>>13049441
pretty cool guy, got a reputation in italy for making contrarian shitposts against the fascist bureaucracy and the vatican, and when he persisted after being censored multiple times he ended up being taken very seriously by authorities too dumb to understand him. mussolini thought he was a literal magician and was deeply afraid of him, but ended up being influenced by his views on the "spiritual race". the national socialists were cautiously interested in his ideas but kept him on a very short leash.
all of his books are good.

>>13051400
I'd love to get into occultism but from what I've seen it's super heavy on Kabbalah, which ugh no thanks

>>13051406
Pleb

>>13051407

Jewish Kabbalah, Rosicrucianism, tantra, hermeticism proper, thelema, Spare and once all of these are understood in context Kenneth grant and Michael bertiaux’s works.

But really it’s all very very interestingly and fascinating stuff. When I first read Michael and Kenneth grant I thought they were absolutely insane until I understood the context of chaos magic and spare and the context of those through Crowley and broader hermeticism.


They’re all incredibly nuanced philosophies that can hook into each other just as much as you want and give you ample room to have creativity within them. You can be as religious and dogmatic or as rejecting of such as one desires, as rigid or chaotic, meta or sincere, there’s just so much material that it depends entirely on your tastes. You won’t run out of material to read, at least in my experience.

>>13051413
>I'm a xtian semitiphobe who believes in genesis but not its symbolic meaning
Kys

>>13049974
this is good bait, i almost fell for it

>>13051436
I'm not Christian

>>13051413

Hermetic Kabbalah is garbage, hermeticism is good but they ruin it. Try reading some of aryeh kaplan’s work (his book on meditation or his book on the sepher yetzirah and most important his book inner space will really change your conception of Kabbalah)

If you don’t want Kabbalah though that’s fine, just study spare (book of pleasure, zoetic grimoire and so on.) he gives you the tools to make your own model and consume other models if you read him properly and he’s actually although people don’t know this rooted in Agrippa.

After or Hell, before if you want primer study some chaos magic like liber Null.


Kabbalah is an eidetic science in my opinion, it can be replaced if you please.

>>13051433
Seems hard to jump into to be honest. I've read a bit of the meme duo on here and I suppose it was a bit intriguing but I didn't know how to make sense of it.

is there like a particular text you would rec as some kind of intro, can I just download the Jewish Kabbalah and try to understand it? ty for responses

>>13051464

Inner space then sepher yetzirah are probably the best primers, basically just read the material by aryeh Kaplan and you’re gonna know more about proper Kabbalah than 90% of hermetic occultists.


Its really really good material but hermeticism likes to overcomplicate material because of aesthetic more or less.


A lot of the problems of modern occultism and occultists in my opinion is addiction to aesthetics corrupting their intellectual model, which is fine if they’re consciously aware of it but they often aren’t.

>>13049441
>/pol/
get red-pilled for real, bro
(you're being used over there)

>>13051494
thanks m8

>>13051494
What about going a more Eastern route?

>>13051527

I’m bias here, I recommend a shivaite and Zen approach.


Shiva Sutras, the work of abhinavagupta and so on and so forth. Definitely begin with the shiva sutras shiva samhita and abhinavagupta’s commentary on the Gita.


As for Zen, look into the life of master linji and study Benkai, his idea of the unborn is lovely.

If you want Taoism that’s more complicated, obviously than the Tao te ching is nice but you’re gonna wanna study zhangzi for the hardcore philosophical elements and Ge Hong For the proper occult elements. If you can find any material on the baopuzi or daozang I recommend it heavily.


As for Shinto, seems mostly a no-man’s land because its so land locked and isn’t translated enough.


As for other forms of Buddhism, there’s a load of material on Theravada and Mahayana and these are usually much more exoteric in character. They do have esoteric aspects but I find their esoteric levels inferior to vajrayana which is a synthesis of Mahayana Buddhism with Tantra and that is itself a massive tradition.

All in all though I still say the height of eastern clarity is found in linji and abhinavagupta

>>13051552
Don't you need to be initiatied into Vajrayana to do it? There's a temple about 40 mins away from me, been thinking about going but I'm pretty nervous about it

>>13049456
stop projecting

>>13051441
how is it bait?

>>13051616

That’s what they claim but not fully.

The tantraloka claims one can initiate into Hindu tantra via use of raktadevi/Raktakali as use of her mantra and the like daily eventually causes visions of her along with dream.

Similar procedure is possible and done also in Buddhist tantra using Vajrayogini, for this purpose you should study their forms of dream control (Tibetan yogas of dream and sleep.)

If you can directly communicate with vajrayogini in dream that is initiation for vajrayana. Short of direct deity interaction you probably will need a teacher. Unless you supplement Buddhist tantra with Hindu tantra anyways.


Theres book on both which spill decent amounts of secrets.

>>13049441
>I’m here from /pol/

And now, you're in my cringe comp
>:)

>>13051130
>I'm as far right as they come
Trash
>better esoteric than evola
Lies

>>13049475
More like 115 IQ

>>13049974
It’s isn’t a contraction of it is, it shows ownership of the “it,” like saying the dog’s collar.

>>13052174
>wakes up to see what americans have been posting meanwhile
but of course

In This thread:
>someone shitposts with an old formative /lit/ meme
>lefty newfags don't understand it and make asses out of themselves
>the meme is posted: people should stop being retarded now right?
>LOL NO! They double-down.
Helicopter rodea are too mercyful for the commie scum. They should be lynched.

>>13051747
gib book namez anon

>>13051747
you've given quite a wealth of stuff to look into, thank you very much.

>>13049441
As both a /pol/ack and someone who actually reads, I can bet money that there's not one worthwhile post in this entire thread before even reading it. But to answer your question. Evola was a Traditionalist. This is a religious field more so than political. Although, he (not necessarily all Traditionalists) does come with heavy ramifications on political issues, and does have political writings. You can probably get the gist of him by reading the Wikipedia article on the Perennial Philosophy, and imagining him as a caricature of your average Traditionalist. If you want to go a bit deeper, without committing, then read the Essential Guenon, and you'll have a decent understanding of the Perennial Philosophy. If you actually want to read him then see pic related.

He's most appealing to the Third-Position because he didn't convert to Semitic Islam. (Guenon, Schuon, etc were all Sufis; to this day you have people like Nasr) He was also politically active, while Guenon - himself a critic of democracy and communism - felt that you should just wait the yuga out. This is where you start seeing the split between Guenon and your run of the mill Traditionalists and Evola. Evola puts emphasis on Heroism. He sees value in fighting, in war. I think it's in Revolt Against the Modern World where he says that not everyone has an immortal soul, and that "Traditionally" it was reserved for Heroes - Greek demigods for instance, while the average person became Manes. This is quite the attack on traditional Traditionalism, and especially on those who adopted Abrahamic religions. You can almost compare Guenon and Evola as archetypes of the Brahmin and Kshatriya. One perfectly content penning himself up in his house, attending ceremonies, hiding out of fear of black magic. The other, action oriented, and ready to wage the outer Jihad.

every time he comes up i cringe at the thought of americans trying to pronounce julius

>>13049456
>however, those plebs, kikes, women and niggers sure need their rights!
It's all about power for you narcissistic cunts, isn't it?

>>13053796
This is how I pronounce Julius https://youtu.be/htTWAWZETDI

>>13049456
/thread

>>13049456
> doesn't write in anonymous
> judge people from no information at all

Reddit may be a more suitable place for you

>>13053482

If you’re already familiar with basic Buddhism and basic Hindu tantra the The Concealed Essence of the Hevajra Tantra Isn’t a bad place to look.

>>13049489
Obviously you're new here. /lit/ is equally as retarded as most other boards, they try to hide it with a large vocabulary but they fail.

>>13049490
Guenon is a carpet dealer, and Evola bought one.
Orientalism is disgusting, Guenon and Evola are shit.

>>13052195
get a load of this guy

>>13053339
>>political bants on 4chan
>u-uh, excuse me everybody, you need to cut it out right this minute! or there will be helicopter rodea
kill yourself

>>13049489
>leftist bigotry: It is finest
damn right it is

>>13049583
>basys
>>13053339
>mercyful
what is this

>>13053811
bold of you to post this here. also phish is based

>>13054478
You obviously can't read since I deliberately excluded elicopter rides from your destiny.
>we are only pretending to be retarded!
I'm not. I'm actually retarded and I want to beat you to a pulp, then skin you, then beat you to a pulp again.
If i were in you, I'd run.
>>13054487
I'd run quick.

>>13049986
>discernible talent
what an obnoxious phrase

>>13054540
>If i were in you
yes daddy :3

>>13054525
It came out really well with the horns https://youtu.be/6jCqpM9lKgI

>>13053783
This is a stunningly terrible post on multiple levels

>>13054458
orientalism doesn't mean anything