/lit/ - Literature

>>12931581
I will as soon as you stop calling the Absolute God and syncretizing religions, and for the last time, stop misinterpreting what I've said, my failed student!

Whelp, I should have figured it would only be a matter of time before Mr. Schuon showed up here.

I suppose I can look forward to every thinker I find refreshing, insightful, encouraging and influential to be casually memed and caricatured into a fragmentary shadow of whatever they actually were/are in book, deed and life.

Schuon, I think, has written on technology as tending towards maximal possibility of instrumentalizing human evil.

It is difficult to not feel that is so given the extent and degradation of pornography, the disintegration of serious engagement with ideas and their replacement with ridiculous memes or superficial Wikipedia renderings, the vulgarity of culture in general, the callous thrill with which people watch others get slaughtered on live video feed...

What a horrible time to be alive. Truth was never harder to see.

>>12931718
What is exactly wrong with pornography? Schuon spent hours in meditation watching the female genitalia and painted the Virgin Mary naked, I am pretty sure he also owned lots of pornographic magazines since he was a huge fan of the divine feminine and beauty

>caring about fascist thinkers

>>12931750
Because it's sinful. I know I do not engage in viewing pornography often. I try to abstain as much as I can. I end up watching it mayyyybe once a week, if that

:3

>>12931750
It's a form of adultery, it often involves exploitation, and in its present form redirects the sexual impulse into an abstract fantasy world completely devoid of love, human contact or the possibility of childbirth. It also encourages perversions, which can approach idoloatary in the extent to which individuals pursue certain sex acts as the organizing principle of their lives.

Admiring human beauty in the abstract is distinct from lusting after particular bodies.

>>12931750
Pornography has no dignity and no objectivity towards oneself. It degrades, it's prostitution and fornication and vulgar, it is totally pedestrian and unholy.
A nude statue or painting has dignity if executed correctly, it reminds us of innocent pre-fallen man, virgin and so forth.

>>12931750
You do not seem to get it

The Holy Man can watch pornography, own pornographic novels, and watch them without lust. He understands the divinity in the female body; there is no lust in his gaze, even if there was arousing, erection caused by the images: it it is totally 'innocent' process in the sense that he does not Fornicate in his Spirit.

The degenerate, driven by his Lust and passions, loses a part of himself when engulfing himself with these phantasm images, while the spiritual men only achieve greater heights in terms of ascending towards divinity.

>>12931820
the holy man can watch porn without lust but he would feel disgust and pity instead, and would not waste time with it.

the degenerate/novice will look at a classic greek statue and get aroused and start thinking about genital and fornication.

>>12931581
>the Absolute.
I'm right here

>>12932326
blasphemy.

>>12931718
Are you a newfag? Traditionalists have been memed here for years (including Schuon)

>>12931581
why do all these "European" "converts" to Islam all already very conveniently look like arabs?

>>12931611
kek

Pornography kills the soul

>>12932482
Honestly, this.

How is one supposed to follow this line of thinking? Is there any actual traditional religions left nowadays? My recent experience with Catholicism has soured me on religion in general as religious institions seem to consist only of bourgeois moralism or hippy nonsense. In my country even Islam is packed full of progressives.

There is a tension between the communal nature of religious exoterism and the absolute fucking state of the community that actually follows religion in the west. As I have no means of moving to the east, I am incapable of solving it.

>>12932648
The world is in decay. Religious institutions are not exempt. Normies will be normies, plebs gonna pleb. Of course the masses are going to be disappointing.
You should strive to find the exceptional people within your tradition, and befriend them. Of course they will be a minority, but they exist.

>>12932326
Fichtepilled

>>12932482
That's absolutely false.
There is no such thing as a soul.

Though a lot of porn teaches you fools a lot of wrong ideas about women and sex. Here you are believing in souls, you'll believe anything you see played out on screen

>>12932936

IT IS NO WONDER WHY YOU ARE SO MISERABLE.

>>12931787
And? He asked what is wrong.

What do you traditionalists and perennialists think of Simone Weil? I've wondere about this for a while now.

>Schuon
He's the biggest clown of the Perennialist circus. At least read Wolfgang Smith.

>>12932946
I am oddly the happiest person on this board.
You wouldn’t believe the pressures I’m living with and the fatalistic outlook of the world I hold. Yet, I feel so calm, so happy. Ataraxic, Raeus.

>>12932936
>Degenerate Lesbian who abandons her own feminine nature to lust after other women, vile behaviour
>spends excessive amounts of time on 4chan, browsing, replying, clearly displays introvert behaviour through such actions
>has no belief in human soul, therefore has no self value in one self, therefore has no respect for herself, hence vile homosexuality
Happy sailing

>>12933617
>has to prove to people that she’s happy

>>12933619
All those assumptions, yeesh

>>12933619
Imagine if she becomes a coherent writer and becomes the female equivalent of Michel Foucault

>>12933624
Just thought I’d mention it. How’re you doing anon?

>>12933628
Your panties, remove them

>>12933617
>finding it odd to be in a situation of happiness
Stopped reading there. You are fucking miserable. This is a symptom of shitposting and grasping for social connection in a Thai Lettuce Chopping Sweatshop.

If you’re a person who outright denies all non-empirically proven claims, you’re a materialist and there is no reconciliation of this matter without watering some ugly contradictions.

Grow up, Butterfly.

>>12933634
I’m not bad actually, no point asking you, because you’re happy right?, so what ya reading snow bunny

>>12933641
No, I’m just communicating that I am under the same old pressures and hard times as in my 20s yet now I am calm and light about it all. My future, all of our future, is not even assured. Maybe this is bravery, maturity, a proper frame of mind or diet. I’m here to help you poor poor “souls”
I’m the one who has grown up here. And you brats hate me for it.

>>12933644
A bunch.

>>12933666
Well you have no anonymity on 4chan, and that’s the point, it goes to show that you seek attention, in the same breath it could be seen as rebel behaviour and confidence, but you’re vile, and the second one, Narcissism, no self esteem because there is no such thing as low self esteem, nonsense, addiction to instant gratification, there is never a waking moment when you’re never on here, what do you receive from it, an inner stroke? An inner Pucci stroke?, don’t you find human interaction valuable?, clearly not, Cleary not

>>12933666
Oh boy. You are deluded. Let’s analyze this.

>No, I’m just communicating that I am under the same old pressures and hard times as in my 20s yet now I am calm and light about it all.
Are you refgering to mental illness? Everyone experiences pressure throughout their lives in some form. Some, those not dealt a lucky birth, have more visceral pressures than others. You are not a special snowflake.

>My future, all of our future, is not even assured.
Yes, that’s why people make conflict in the present over ideas of “the future”. This is a known phenomenon. The only thing that is assured are the nody of facts that surround you as a function of your past, and you ability to construct the present to the best of your ability. This is something that humanity consistantly has issues understanding.

>Maybe this is bravery, maturity, a proper frame of mind or diet. I’m here to help you poor poor “souls”
Is this a messiah complex? Souls that know they need help strive first to help themselves. There are burdens of others that need not be carried. Those who are masters of their burdens go down in history as world renowned greats. Trying to become this on 4chan is strange, but is probably the result of a global culture of technological praise over human connection. In general. We are more concentrated on the internet than we are on one another.

>I’m the one who has grown up here. And you brats hate me for it.
If you’re still here posting under an internet pseudonym, you have not grown up.

>>12932936
>there is no soul
>if I can't eat it or fuck it its not real!
modernism is brain damage.

>>12933617
>>12933666
Fuck off buttershit. Could you be any more pretentious, you stupid fuck?

>>12931581
Why wouldn't I ignore it? I can never meet it anyway so why should I give a fuck?

>>12934532
pray that you may be strong against the tyranny of the senses

>>12933644

>>12934547
Hahaha keep these coming

>>12934539
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION OR I'LL LITERALLY KILL YOU YIU FAGGOT I'M NOT KIDDING I'VE READ KIERKEGAARD AND I'M A KNIGHT OF THE FAITH NOW SO I'LL FUCK YOU UP WITH THE FURY OF 10000 CATHOLIC PRIESTS.

>>12933687
I’m here to show you out of this sewage mindset, vile one.
>implies he’s not even human
Poor dear.

>>12933688
Oh well, you tried.

>>12933872
Show me the soul

Fucks sake, why does every thread nowadays devolve into orbiting the fucking tripfag? This board is getting dumber by the day.

>>12934554
That’s all there is, anon, that’s all there is...

>>12931820
What is divinity and don’t use god as a crux of your argument

>>12931770
Unironically correct. Anyone who uses "fascist" as a pejorative owns a fursuit.

>>12933628
effectively "yikes" as a response, how surprising

>>12935210

>>12937211
Are you asking me to address the accusations?

>>12937293
STOP DERAILING EVERY FUCKING THREAD YOU POST IN, ITS RUDE, HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT FOR OTHER POSTERS. STOP BITING EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF BAIT ANONS THROW AT YOU.

>>12932377
Most converts to Islam are actually gingers.
We discovered that 76 per cent of white British converts to radical Islam had red hair. In the Daily Mail archives, 69 per cent of white Brits lured into jihadism or the orbit of an extremist preacher were ginger. The number was similar for the Mirror and the Telegraph. The Guardian yielded a full 100 per cent redhead rate for the stories we sampled.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2014/09/09/ginger-jihadis-why-redheads-are-attracted-to-radical-islam/

>>12931770
You dont have to be a fascist to shit on democracy

Schuon is interesting but I find him too "religious". I prefer the hyper lucidity of Guénon or even the heroic spirit of Evola.

>>12937495
Maybe they’ve seen the Afghani “gingers”

>>12933628

Women make the more radical Greek Theological ideas very plausible. Like women being the reincarnation of evil men or "the soul that has not seen the truth will never be reincarnated into human form".

>>12931750
Do you genuinely not know the difference between eroticism and pornography you fucking fag?