/lit/ - Literature

>>12846333
>Any works of literature or normal books
Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper

>>12846333
Is he angsty/existential to any degree?
Welcome to the NHK definitely

Fat people who eat garbage food and play video games all day won't read anything you give them. He's doomed.

>>12846351
no, he is not angsty. I don't he is even remotely existentialist, because that would mean he wants to give meaning to the world, despite it having no intrinsic meaning. he doesn't, he just destroys his body and soul day in day out

>>12846371
>
he does have the attention span to read a book here and there.

>>12846351
im not giving him a fucking manga

>>12846333
unironically peterson's 12 rules for life

Also give him a card and sign it by telling him to wash his dick

>>12846333
Your friend is completely justified though.

>>12846392
It's not a manga, it's a light novel with adaptations, and it's one of the most highly rated on this board so I recommend you tone down your weeb hate

>>12846458
no he is not

>>12846333
>Nietzsche
>antidote to nihilism

You didn't understand Nietzsche.

>>12846333
Is he a material determinist?

>>12846375
eyy, who are you to deny his meaning? it's subjective and deeply personal. I'll tell you with utmost conviction that a world in which 2004-2010 WoW didn't happen is a world in which I wouldn't want to live. it was a unique and exciting time in history and I pity those who didn't experience it.
as for his body, he could be doing it to ensure he doesn't make it to old age. nothing wrong with killing yourself slowly and enjoying your time while awaiting the end.

unironically orgy of the will

>>12847735
It is quite evident that you did not.

>>12848641
That'll probably just make him kill himself.

>>12847735
It's the antidote to the filthy fucking casual version of nihilism. Because it would be the real version of nihilism.

>>12846333
>friend

we all know you're talking about yourself anon

still open for suggestions fellow chads

>>12846333
There is a 1:100000000 chance there is a book out there to wake him up. Something has to actually happen to him. He has to hit rock bottom. He is probably not even aware of the fact that he is alive. He needs a tragedy...

>>12849843
>>12849843
he already hit rock bottom. no working experience whatsoever, he is 25. he got his studies subsidized 4 times, but never passed the first semester. his family is in shambles and his dad doesn't pay alimony.

for some people depression is a spiral, it never gets better.

>>12849892
Obviously still not rock bottom. He needs a breaking point. He probably needs to attempt suicide.

>>12849905
well, he was talking once about how he wanted to kill himself. I'd say that pretty close

>>12846333
Oblomov

>>12849892
If he can still afford his games and his fast foods, he's far from the bottom.

>>12849906
Still not enough.

“The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night.”

>>12849914
he leeches from his brother and friends

>>12849928
If he's lucky, they'll cut him off and he'll be one step closer to rock bottom.

Gotta agree with Franklin.

>>12849913
ill check it out anon

Existentialism Is a Humanism (Essay)

>>12847735
nah bro i think that would be you who did not understand neitzche

>>12846333
>antidote to nihilism

Kek

Daniel Day Lewis as Nietzsche anyone? I think it could work as a biographical film.

>>12850094
Another pic

>>12850094
>>12850099
Considering that he looks like this normally I think it could work.

>>12850052
are you retarded?

>>12850107
>>12850107
u wot m8?

>>12850107
oh just underage

>>/out/

>>12850130
or maybe a piscetarian cause Daniel Day Lewis wojld be a good caste for NeetZcher.

>>12846392
In reality, you aren't going to give him anything that will achieve what you want for him. You can't expect a person that cares nothing about their life to read a recommended book.
You literally cannot change a person, change comes from within.
Moreover, you're asking for a book to fix a symptom within his life.
Even if he were to read a book you gave to him, and it were somehow exactly the book he needed to reverse the way he thinks, he would still need to act on changing his life; it's very unlikely he doesn't know what he needs to do to improve either way.
You should always have the best interests for your friends, but it sounds like you don't actually like this person. Either accept him for who he is or abandon him.

>>12850255
I'm pretty harsh, but that's because it's pretty frustrating sometimes to see him like this.

I honestly believe a good book can be a mover for change.

>>12846515
rofl. it's cringe and shitpilled

>>12846333
Seems like you're trying to get a book for a person just like me. Is he religious?
Also you're a good friend if you're trying in his behalf.

>>12851157
he ain't religious. he's a complete nihilist.

thanks

>>12850939
LN is better than manga and anime

>>12846333
Notes from Underground and Siddhartha

>>12851687
All 3 should be experienced since all of them vary in one way or the other, but the anime is the way to go for sure.

>>12852947
I wish Japs would get off this website.
No one cares.

>>12852941
2nd this

give him thus spoke zarathustra. that shit is the best self-help book in existence.

>>12849915
>>12849939
I fundamentally disagree. Man is inherently good. He just needs to see and feel a better alternative. Fear is not a good motivator. Only love can save us

>>12846333
>my friend is a fat fuck, who eats trash and plays video games all day. He does this because he is lazy and because he is a self-identified nihilist baby, so he doesn't see the point of anything.
And?
>I want to get something for his birthday, hopefully, to undo this enchantment.
Oh...

What do you owe him?
What do you think he owes you if you do fix his life around?
What do you think he will give you in turn for fixing his life?

>>12853164
He is in a dead sprint from bad feelings. The only salvation is good feelings, and he's found everything he needs to permanently get rid of all those bad feelings and nasty thoughts. Get him to face hell, the man in the mirror. Convince him that he is staring into heaven if he doesn't fix his shit starting right now. Get him to understand he will look to that instant as the one that changed his life.

Fucker never worked hard for a damn thing. Put his face to the coals and blast that fucker as long and as hot as it takes for him to fight for his life back. If I didn't have a literal chad sit down and talk to me in the coffee shop that day, I would still be that man you see before you, but only worse.

"You can walk away with anyone's number, why are you talking to 380 pound me?"
>Maybe the reason you are so spiteful is because you don't want to be helped.

What the fuck does that even mean, how could he say that to me, what did he gain out of ruining my day what the fuck? Turned, very gradually, to "he only wanted to help me and said it in a way that would keep me thinking about it for months after saying it"

>>12853459
See, that's the spirit I abhor. That if you suffer then something good will come. That if you are left without something to force you to act you become idle.
That's the mentality masters force on to slaves to be obedient and content

>>12846333
"asking for a friend" eh?

You can't cure Nihilism unfortunately. There's only various methods of cope. You can try new age religions; the aliens are fashionable these days.

what are you, his wife? get a hobby fag

>>12853489
>That's the mentality masters force on to slaves to be obedient and content
And he will be a fucking slave until the day that he decides to Lord over himself. you have to make being a slave hell for him. Being a slave is rewarding now, make it hell burning so deep he can't remove that smoldering charcoal from his flesh. Make him become his own master. This was what N failed to realize before insanity, masters make masters through slaves. I chose to reply instead of dismissing you for a reason. I worshipped myself the master as I was quintessentially the slave. It's another comfort to distract from the dread that is nihilism. Nothing comes of this life or any, but you have done nothing in the transition to make it better.

the magic of nihilism is that a pheonix once again engilfed in flames rises again from the ashes.

if he is true nihilist then he has come to the great noble truth in the empherial nature of symbols and ideas.
get him some cool books on occultism.
suggest jung-man and his symbols
leary-9 circuit model of consciousness
robert anton wilson prometheus rising


tons of books on hacking,phreaking, social engineering, social psychology.

since semiotics is primarily taught in buisness marketing/advertising/PR i suggest getting some books on that.
Edward Bernays is the go to guy in advertising.


Maybe a book on decentralization, or understanding blockchain, crypto.

failing that look up some philosophers in phenomenology

also highly recommend a book on Dialectical Behavior Therapy(DBT)
or if you can find a book that slips a bunch of that shit in.

failing that just look up the iron pill and berate him for being a failed nihilist as he has not transcended his habits to become an ubermensch.
he says he's a nihilist but he seems to have some pretty solid and concrete habits that he justifies with reasons that make absolutly perfect sense to him.
he isnt a nihilist, he is defeated by it.

>>12846333
Honestly Epicureanism is what got me out of my edgy nihilist faze, focusing on maximizing my own happiness thru self discipline and friendship for hedonistic reasons seemed like a reasonable yet edgy philosophy.
Might just be me though.

>>12846333
You lazy fucker won't even acknowledge the truth blasting you in the face. You can't even tell the truth about your own situation and have to displace it on some "other" to absolve yourself from guilt. You write in pain when I use your own master against you and I gain nothing but pleasure in knowing you have failed when I haven't

>>12853565
not op, but thats what he is. if he is being lazy and gluttonous then he is hedonistic already.
the fact that he labels himself a nihilist is merely his cognitive dissonance between his lifestyle and how he views the world.
i.e. he says hes a nihilist becuase it was a reaction to justify his shitty choices so he doesnt have to feel guilty for 'not living up to expectations' that now that he's heard about nihilism is all arbitrary anyways.
i.e. a huge fuckin cope.

if you want to change his views on nihilism and you are so concerned, recommend trying to let him see the value in you.
then with help he can see and accept value in everything. be a good friend to him, hangout with him. dont judge him for the choices he makes, just always make sure that he has a different option and doesnt have to take that path if he so chooses.

invite him to join you for dinner that you cooked,
no homo

people dont change by telling them what they SHOULD be doing.
people change , when their hearts are open.

>>12853553
Lol, I filled the emptiness I found in the world with epistemology as well. Makes me feel a little better someone out there considers me a "true nihilist" or whatever.

>>12853613
My point was that epicurus demonstrates that sloth and gluttony are actually antithetical to true hedonism and says that the only pleasures actually worth persueing are pleasures you get from accomplishments and relationships. Imo its a great first step for getting out of shitty hedonism.

>>12853663
epicurianism can still be shot down
nigga prolly chatting with zoomer edgelords on xbox live
and getting virtual accomplishments in a virtual world that might be a simulation.
he might be persuring a relationship to a tinder thot or a diakimura in hi bedroom.

i agree that to escape nihilism one must find what they value in life and chase after it with relentless passion.
if he plays video games then kick his excitement and interest up to ten.
comvince him to get a buncha pals together and make a video game company.
or do a buncha video game shenanigans on the town.

if he likes junk food
kick it into high gear,
do ridiculous feats.

you need to get him in spinal tap mode about his shit.
turned up to 11.
sorta like microaccelerationism.

go big or go home.

though if this guy is a sperg you may risk a nerd gasm, freak out, or possibly a full blown manic episode.
but for you thats usually the fun part or reward.

>>12848613
>I'll tell you with utmost conviction that a world in which 2004-2010 WoW didn't happen is a world in which I wouldn't want to live.
based.

>>12848613
>I'll tell you with utmost conviction that a world in which 2004-2010 WoW didn't happen is a world in which I wouldn't want to live. it was a unique and exciting time in history and I pity those who didn't experience it.
>mfw

>>12848641
Lobotomy would be more recommendable.

>>12853528
>>12853459
You must have an impressive collection of katanas.

>>12853733
>You must have an impressive collection of katanas.
Never started, but I'll look into ot now that you mention it

>>12853414

Objectivism is a meme anon

>>12853595
>imply its' you who isn't a failure

this r e a c h proves you're coping lad

Well butterfly I'm not going to be able to post all day, I just hope when you see this you realize that I hope you have a great day <3

I love the influence you have on my life, and I know I'm impacting yours. You have never denied it, so I fully believe you're saving yourself for me, and as you are a virgin, frankly, I expect it.

Thank you for being there. Thank you for saying such nice things to me. Thanks for getting aroused at my imposter

>>12848792
>>12850048
I think you guys don't even know what nihilism truly means.

>>12855536
It's the view that one or more categories of life are empty of meaning. But, I agree that Nietzsche isn't an "antidote" for it. There is no such thing as a philosophy that serves as an antidote for such a thing; overcoming nihilism comes entirely from yourself. Nietzsche could definitely assist you in overcoming it, but he isn't going to overcome it for you. He himself did overcome it, however.

>>12854997
:3

SlickMick is that you?