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>>12732882
No jungle.

>>12732882
That and trap music

>>12732882
post-punk

>>12732882
Yes. Btw to be considered a true intellectual nowadays you've got to guzzle cum like Foucault, so I hope for your intellectual reputation you suck dick.

>>12732882
It's trash.
t. actual musician

>>12732915
you're not an actual musician

>>12732917
Why would I lie?

>>12732882
Anime OSTs are the only acceptable music period

>>12732882
No that's Jazz and Philip Glass.

>>12733070

>>12732882
Jazz.

>>12732882
>I only listen to classical and breakcore and I can assure you I am quite the intellectual.

Wrong board, Einstein.

>>>/mu/

>>12733078
I still don't get this. Jazz is the least impotent thing I've ever heard.

>>12733078
Based

>>12733096
You’re handing over your masculinity to the performer.

>>12733078
>it was made by blacks so its bad
>shit how do i justify this
>w-well, it SOUNDS like it's for eunuchs even though drawing specific interpretations of non-lyrical music is fucking retarded

>>12733096
For the retards:
https://youtu.be/WB6Ix1sw0iI

>>12733124
>thinking Adorno was a racist

post-punk hardcore is the only acceptable choice.

>>12733124
No

The only acceptable jazz
https://youtu.be/9ID70ulTkus

>>12733140
It's just post-hardcore. Post-punk is a different thing altogether.
https://youtu.be/ILZ-Jn-GIgQ

>>12733088
I want the opinions of intellectuals rather than teenagers who listen to trap rap.

>>12732882
Classical music, Gregorian chants and anime & video game OSTs are the only acceptable genres

>>12733142
What 'primitive inclinations' or 'bestial tendencies' does this excite?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoPL7BExSQU

>>12733142
You just proved my point. He was a racist hack who refused to see the beauty of Jazz because it was invented by black people.

Uncle Ted core

https://youtu.be/RaQ-sdtdUcI

In the United States alone
An animal is killed
Every six seconds
In the name of scientific experimentation
A holocaust the likes of man has never known before
Is taking place right before our very eyes
It's up to you and I to put a stop to it
It's up to you and I to make a change
It's up to you and I to ... Liberate!
Vivisection --- It's scientific fraud
Exploitation --- gone on too long
Unjustified murder --- It's systematic slaughter
Liberation --- a means to an end

>>12733199
Niggers make sit music.
That's not racist.

>>12733185
This.

>>12733217
>Niggers make sit music.
>That's not racist.
You should print this on posters and put them up on campus tbqh

>>12733217
Except Jazz is the most beautiful music ever invented, rivalled only by classical.

>>12733191
What did Miles Davis mean by this?

>>12733211
And
https://youtu.be/bYa9bYBeJFs

>>12733228
Imagine believing this.
https://youtu.be/TuzfMR-7v1I

>>12733142
i disagree. however, it is true that most forms of Truly American Art -i.e. jazz, abstract expressionism, classical Hollywood- were sociopolitical constructions aimed to serve as a foundation for American high culture as opposed to the European one.

A real intellectual sees the value in all types of music and realizes their preferences are due to taste and familiarity, not quality.
Every genre has some type of artistic brilliance.
t. Masters degree in classical piano performance

>>12732915
Musicians are usually the poorest judges of music. For most, the performing really rots their critical abilities.

>>12733238
So if I find some shitty classical music it would prove that classical music as a whole is shit? Retard

>>12733240
European high culture is a sociopolitical constructions aimed to serve as a foundation for Christendom's high culture as opposed to the pagan or Eastern one.

This is simply not /lit/ related

>>12733265
sheet music books are literature, therefore the thread is on topic.

>>12733191
You can't tell? It's a machine crying out in pain for a return to devalorisation.

>>12733243
this and not this. when you progress to musical appreciation you begin to realize that everything has an artistic value. however, as you get further into the patriciandom, you get tired of patterns and tropes (not genre specific ones, as in your sophomore years, but the abstract and philosophical ones) and start lurking for the truly masterful works, which often lead to unorthodox paths in musical comprehension.

>>12733243
KYS pseud
https://youtu.be/T312s1oIwXM

>>12732882
Yes, this is the only type of music you are allowed to listen to from now on.

>>12733300
Weaboo prepostironic ASMRcore?

>>12733257
No, you're just wrong because jazz tends towards such empty trash. It is empty trash at its core.
It's pop music with the pretensions of the academy and without the spirit of good pop music.

>>12733142
Is that an actual Adorno quote or are you just attributing to him something something said by Evola?

>>12733261
Gay. European culture is as indebted to pagan traditions as much as Christian, if not more so.

>>12733300
anon was talking about understanding tjat every genre having a different appeal, not that every song ever is good.

>>12733362
Adorno was famously anti-Jazz

>>12733142
"The American's intoxication in "jazz" music does not reach its full completion until the music is accompanied by singing that is just as coarse and obnoxious as the music itself. Meanwhile, the noise of the instruments and the voices mounts, and it rings in the ears to an unbearable degree… The agitation of the multitude increases, and the voices of approval mount, and their palms ring out in vehement, continuous applause that all but deafens the ears."
The applause of music. Jazz cunts eternally BTFO.

>>12733383
So what's the appeal of Yoko mumblewhispercore?
He also said brilliance.

>>12733383
>Adorno was famously anti-Jazz
Hew was, but that didn't sound like something Adorno would say.

And my suscpions were correct. It's actually a quote by Sayyid Qutb,

The only good Jazz is played by whites that jazzfags hate because they only consider atonal wank without melodies to be true Jazz.

>>12733283
That discussion is kind of beside the point I was going for. You don't have to listen to masterpieces all the time. Even genius gets old eventually. There's nothing wrong with a walk in the park.

>>12733424
You are so fucking wrong.
I love Brubeck, Getz, Jobim, and Paul Desmond, etc.
But how can you ignore the genius of John Coltrane, Duke Ellington, pre-70s Miles Davis, the Adderley Bros, Ahmad Jamal, etc.?
Sure many of them lived fast, drug addled lives, but their contributions to music even outside of the world of jazz cannot be ignored.

>>12733461
>But how can you ignore the genius of John Coltrane, Duke Ellington, pre-70s Miles Davis, the Adderley Bros, Ahmad Jamal, etc.?
They have no tunes, it's just sonic chaos to me.

>>12733238
>implying this is not a highly advanced 40-minute spiritual masterwork, expressing an earthy, honest beauty in musical terms that must entirely fly over the ears and heads of mouthbreathers like him

Don't post next time, or try to use your brain before you do.

>>12733461
>Duke Ellington
I give this guy a pass, I like his stuff. The other ones not so much

People who compare it with pre 20th century classical music are just deluded

>>12733484
Imagine believing this.
Jazz may be defended from a few positions, but not from a point of mastery or beauty. Jazz is not beautiful.

>>12733484
>implying this racket even has a direction let alone comes close to a masterpiece
Even noise music has some direction to it. This is just a nigger tripping out, which isn't necessarily bad in itself but it will never be a masterpiece. It's not even a good example of the nigger tripping genre.

>>12733530
>the nigger tripping genre.
surely Sun Ra is the epitome of this

>>12733461
>>12733483
Me again, here's a "jazz" tune I legitimately like but I doubt it even counts as real jazz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrAWX9IfGhc

Why are jazz fags so insufferable? I won't even compare them to their sister fags because I'm hoping they will keep away from a thread for once.

>>12733498
>Jobim
>not so much
>implaying Girl From Ipanema isn't one of the smoothest jams of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KpIV57PSeo