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Anonymous Mon Mar 4 00:02:35 2019 No.12699675 [Reply] [Original]

Categorical imperative sounds like some commie shit t b h. Every philosophical ideology that puts the collective values above the individual values should be put to fire and swiftly forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 00:04:07 2019 No.12699679 >>12699675 Categorical Imperative is literal autistic behavior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 01:04:46 2019 No.12699949 >>12699675 Sick misunderstanding bro, you really got kant

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 01:07:06 2019 No.12699956 >individual values Retarded Randians shouldn't be allowed to post on /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 01:18:34 2019 No.12700000 >>12699679 autism is the next evolutionary step of mankind

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 01:21:45 2019 No.12700009 >>12700000 Quints confirm >>12699679 Kant was literally autistic. One time he tried to hold his pee for as long as possible to see if he could get rid of the desire to pee.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 02:57:26 2019 No.12700273 >>12700009 >One time he tried to hold his pee for as long as possible to see if he could get rid of the desire to pee. Source? I tried to do this once myself, I have a constant urge to pee now

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 03:04:31 2019 No.12700287 File: 523 KB, 367x219, 1551651426496.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12700000

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 04:07:16 2019 No.12700414 >>12700000 The gods have spoken!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 04:09:31 2019 No.12700421 >>>/his/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 04:09:44 2019 No.12700422 >>12699675 Fucking Okay bud. Go to bed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 04:19:56 2019 No.12700438 >>12699675 Kant's a bourgeois liberal fuck, go read his essay on perpetual peace. There's no collectivism in his ontology

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 04:22:20 2019 No.12700452 >>12699675 I fucking hate Americans.

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 07:43:48 2019 No.12700964

>>12699675
>collective values above the individual values
You haven't read Kant. The categorical imperative affirms an individual moral agency that doesn't rely on the dogmas of collectivism. Even if you disagree with it, the framework of the imperative is a means towards a philosophy of self-governance, not submission to a cause.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 08:54:30 2019 No.12701146 >>12699675 The categorical imperative has nothing to do with collective values or individual values. It's metaphysical.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 08:56:16 2019 No.12701153 >>12700273 How long did you last?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 09:00:05 2019 No.12701161 >>12701153 not even a day, I drink a lot of tea so it was hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 13:34:03 2019 No.12702204 >>12699675 >Baptized Emanuel, he later changed his name to Immanuel after learning Hebrew.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 13:40:22 2019 No.12702234 >>12699675 >reason isn't the most individual thing of all EGO cogito ergo EGO sum, pleb

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 13:51:16 2019 No.12702304

>>12699675
Nothing could be further from the truth. Utilitarianism, now THAT is commie ethics. The virgin utilitarian will harvest you for organs because muh greatest good for greatest number. Meanwhile the Chad Kantian will reject the notion because he recognizes how horrific it would be if you made that sort of behaviour into universal law.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 13:53:35 2019 No.12702317 >>12702304 all deontologists need to be hanged, lol muh universal law, what is this facebook? virtue ethics is where it's at. take care of your own house nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 13:55:25 2019 No.12702330 >>12699949 Except that's what Kant meant with the imperative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 14:01:37 2019 No.12702361 File: 168 KB, 727x682, 827.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Philosophy is fucking gay. i can't believe I wasted 3 years studying the thoughts of literal autists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 14:51:44 2019 No.12702695 >>12702330 [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 16:08:26 2019 No.12703094 >>12699675 The secret is reading Stirner first and then reaching the categorical imperative on your own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 16:13:38 2019 No.12703119 >>12700000 Epic

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 16:14:07 2019 No.12703123 >>12700000 j'invoque Deleuze pour l'exorcisme

Anonymous Mon Mar 4 19:57:09 2019 No.12704540

>>12702317
>and so it was, that after millennia of philosophical thought, speculation and intense inquiry into what the absolute moral framework might be, it turns out that a bunch of dudes from thousands of years ago got it right and everything since then was wrong
Virtue ethics is the most retarded tautology and I can’t believe the extent to which /lit/ still circlejerks this shit. We get it, you started with the Greeks and never found the courage to move into anything else

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 20:04:31 2019 No.12704568 Give ONE (1) argument against the cat. imperative that isn’t just ‘it would be annoying to live by’.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 4 20:25:11 2019 No.12704697 >>12704540 >It came after so it must be correct >let's reify moral principles instead of just learning how to embody them spontaneously in ever-shifting social contexts Ok

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:37:31 2019 No.12706219 Americans really are the trash pile of human society

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:41:59 2019 No.12706241 >>12699675 the individual is a meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:42:59 2019 No.12706244 >>12700000 Quints of truth right there

Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:45:26 2019 No.12706255

>>12704568
Why must I give a fuck about my moral principles being applicable on a massive scale? What exactly dictates that morality should be ubiquitous? I don't believe in the equality among all men, I don't believe in the inherent worth of all men, so why should my morality reflect these values?

Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:50:16 2019 No.12706273

>Now in such a way a world of rational beings (mundus intelligibilis) is possible as a realm of ends, and specifically for all persons through their own legislation as members. Accordingly, every rational being must act as if it were through its maxims always a legislative member in a universal realm of ends. The formal principle of these maxims is: ‘Act as though your maxim should serve at the same time as a universal law (for all rational beings)’.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:58:21 2019 No.12706298 >>12706255 Kant assumes that all people are logical and in some way intelligent, which is his biggest mistake, considering people like you exist

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 01:58:30 2019 No.12706300 >>12704540 Just because people have spent a lot of time on something doesn't make it more true than other things By that logic Catholicism is the truth since people have been defending its whacky theology for 1700 years

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 02:07:01 2019 No.12706322 >>12706298 So, I'm right and Kant is wrong? Glad we agree.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 02:17:18 2019 No.12706352 >>12700000 witnessed

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 5 02:19:33 2019 No.12706363 >>12699675 Kant literally said that after killing the Elector of Brandenburg with a headbutt tho, context matters here. They had been drinking but he knew what he did was wrong, so he made it a teaching moment. You gotta read more bro

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