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About to read this. What should I expect?

>> No.12692323

*braaaaaaaaappp*
*pffftttttttsss*
*blprrffff*
*plop*
That's what you should expect anon.

>> No.12692344
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>>12692323
So no one read this book I’m guessing?

Just a bunch of pseudo Plato readers in here? Anyone who actually appreciates philosophy is gone?

>> No.12692395

>>12692344
Pretty much, feel free to cry.

>> No.12692495

Read somewhere (Guide for the perplexed series, I think) that it’s more about metaphysics than Metaphysics.

>> No.12692547

>>12692313
Boredem, autism and ancient logic (mainly boredem and autism, however). There's little if any artistry to the Organon, you may as well just read the SEP page.

>> No.12692553

>>12692547
It’s okay. I mostly read scientific texts in my time anyway. This seems right up my alley.
>>12692495
I doubt that is true. I read that it was mostly about logic. Just read the first chapter, seems I’ll be dealing heavily with syllogisms.

>> No.12692703
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12692703

Aristotle dedicated 70 pages in this work to what Wittgenstein later on solved with a few symbols in less than a page.

>> No.12692720

>>12692703
Fuck, that's just humiliating. How did Aristotle react when he read that?

>> No.12692727

>>12692720
He looked kinda dead.

>> No.12692796

>>12692313
Syllogism

>> No.12692807

>>12692703
I’m sure that Aristotle dedicated 70 ‘pages’ to a problem that was solved math equation style by an analytic later on.

You want to know how I know you’ve never read Aristotle?

>> No.12692956

>>12692807
I've read Aristotle's Prior and Posterior Analytics. I remember them being the about the rules of a syllogism, and the ways through which false premises lead to false conclusions, and different kinds of true premises lead to different kinds of true conclusions. The contingent-necessary and universal-particular distinctions might have made sense in Aristotle's mind, and were indeed defended quite well by people like St. Thomas Aquinas and Immanuel Kant, but I can't say I know of any truth that is perfectly necessary, nor any universal truth which is anything but the combination of particular truths stated as if they were to be representative of the same facts, when in truth, they are all different in terms of the exact set of circumstances through which they come into being, which is why even though something might seem to follow a general, previously observed pattern, it is under all cases unique in terms of what it has made it so.

>> No.12694006

>>12692703
>analytic
>philosophy

The Tractatus is dogshit.

>> No.12694016

>he fell for the "start with the greeks" meme
anon, I...

>> No.12694017

>>12694006
Would you mind telling me why you believe this?

>> No.12694735

>>12692703
>conflating propositional calculus with first-order syllogistic logic
As an analytic autist I can tell you're full of shit.