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Harry Potter General Discussion Thread

Is Voldemort asexual?

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what pace does dabbing have in the wizarding world?

>> No.12553082

>>12552981
I thought Luna Lovegood was supposed to be the asexual one.

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>> No.12553096

>>12552981
Voldemort was buysexual. Whenever he wanted sex he had to buy it.

>> No.12553106

>>12552981
Is Neville a Nurglite?

>> No.12553111

>>12552981
Is JK Rowling a TERF?

>> No.12553131

>>12553111
It makes absolutely zero sense for any feminist to not be a "terf". Years ago before that was a popular term I wondered something like
>how do feminists not find some deranged guy going "I totally know what it's like to be a woman" actually offensive?

>> No.12553139

>>12553131
Transpeople are not deranged

>> No.12553153

>>12553139
Haha

>> No.12553220

>>12552981
Surprisingly no, see: Delphi Diggory.

Source: I've seen the awful play, own the script, and live with deep regret.

>> No.12553350

>>12553153
They're not

>> No.12554347

>>12553082
It's not true, Luna gets married to some fellow.

>> No.12554354

>>12553139
Men that have their genitalia removed are known as eunuchs. They're not women.

>> No.12554367

>>12554354
Being trans is not the same thing as having your genitals removed so they're not eunuchs.

Also, eunuchs only lose their testicles, not their penises.

>> No.12554423

>>12554367
claiming you can have privileged access to the experiences of a class of people from a position outside that class, and that such insight actually places you within that class, is what is bonkers.
it's like me claiming not only that i can kinda know what it would be like to live as a horse, but that through that imaginative leap, i have actually doscovered that i AM a horse. that is obviously false. why it isn't obvious in the case of trans folk is due to propaganda and massive ideological pressure exerted on sympathizers, especially left-ish women.

>> No.12554432

>>12554423
You can change class though. There are some things you can't change but you can change class. If you believe that gender is mainly a social phenomenon that it's totally possible to alter it, and there is room for ambiguity, and movement in liminal space regarding gender

>> No.12554445

>>12554432
>You can change class though.
No.
A man born rich who lives all his life off the wealth he accrued by virtue of being will still ride off of that benefit even if he loses all of his worth.

>> No.12554455

>>12554432
>you can change class
Yes you can become a member of the trans class which is neither female nor male. A m2f will never really know the struggle of a woman.

>> No.12554473

>>12554445
This is an really confusing sentence, what are you trying to say?
>by virtue of being
by virtue of being what does he accrue wealth? Being as in existing? Does he accrue wealth by virtue of BEING RICH? How does he "ride off the benefit" of his wealth even if he loses his wealth?

>> No.12554478

>>12554455
They will if people treat them like women in public. Being treated like a woman and to perceive oneself as a woman is what it feels like to be a woman. Unless you're an essentialist which I am not.

>> No.12554486

>>12554478
what if you feel like an essentialist and people treat you as one?

>> No.12554493

>>12554478
>being treated like a woman in public somehow gives you insight into what having a period or pregnancy is like
hmmm yep you convinced me, no magical thinking here

>> No.12554497

>>12554432
most of the things that trans people seem focused on in their delusion are not socially-conditioned aspects of sexed personality traits.
even if femininity was entirely determined by social context (which it isn't), there is still the irreducible historical factor in that conditioning. 'transwomen' were raised as males, whatever that means. they lack the history that would have given them the requisite experience of being women to actually 'become women' later in their development.
you can't just backload all that wetware, man. doesn't work like that.

>> No.12554501

>>12554445
Based verbose gibberish

>> No.12554503

>>12554486
You don't even need that. To be an essentialist you just have to believe you are. It's like being a Christian. Which brings up another point: there are certain social classes which you can just choose or not choose to be a part of like religious or political affiliations.

>> No.12554514

>>12554497
Not all trans people are raised under the standards of their assigned gender. Maybe they were raised with female labels, but I know some women who were primarily raised by macho fathers and that's kind of messed with their own perceived gender identity because they grew up as tomboys and kind of identify with masculinity more than femininity in certain respects.

>> No.12554523

>>12554473
I meant 'being born'

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>>12553139

>> No.12554550

>>12554523
Oh, what if he's born rich, but immediately displaced and winds up in an orphanage? Not common, but wouldn't that change his class, intellectually and materially. In other words by what are you measuring "social class?" Is it a state of mind, is it just whatever group you're affiliated with?

>> No.12554554

>>12554514
yes, quite a bit of social behavior is learned. this is trivial. as a kid i wore my mom's bras sometimes when she was at work because they were soft and smelled like her and i missed her. my adolescence, however, was 'normal' because i did this in private and didn't have an enormous ideological machine to churn me into something i am not.
sex is not the sum of learned social behavior. it is, among other things, a biochemical process that changes over time. you can manipulate *some* variables in this process to bring it into alignment with a different one. but not *all* or even *most* of them. the result is typically long-term harm to the organism, to the PERSON being manipulated.

>> No.12554622

Have you read the latest sort-of-okay fanfiction /lit/?

/works/10413771 on ao3

>> No.12554638

>>12554554
What if they believe in their gender but nobody else does? Is that manipulation? Isn't it manipulative to tell somebody that something they believe about themselves is a delusion, often to the point of committing suicide, when they would've been happier living as a different gender?

>> No.12554718

>>12554638
i think gdd should be treated as the mental illness that it is, a personality disorder. like people with, say, schizophrenia, i don't think people with gdd should be discriminatd against or treated as anythimg less than human. but their disease should not be made out to be something other than what it is. courses of treatment will vary case to case, but there should be treatment.

>> No.12554724

>>12552981
Harry Potter isn't real.

>> No.12555005

>>12554622
thanks for the rec you complete faggot. Is there slash? ao3 has a lot of that shit

>> No.12555044

>>12554367
A eunuch with no penis is still a eunuch. We didn't need all this new terminology, we already have explanations for all these things. If a man wants to get his balls removed and become an eunuch, let him, but he can never call himself both an woman and sane.

>> No.12555051

>>12554445
Don't tilt at the windmills lad

>> No.12555058
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I don’t personally have a problem with Harry Potter. It was an imaginative piece of fantasy, sure. But holy shit the fucking fans. Jesus god they’re the worst. Now I didn’t read the books because I was too old but I eventually saw the movies. If you can chew your way through the first two (fuck they were terrible) then the others are coherent. But what’s worse is the fan base. An entire generation of fuckwit thirty year olds ruining my dinner with talk about what fucking imaginary house they got sorted into. Then cue the girls showing off their tattoos, whether elder wand or deathly hallows symbol, in the end they’re hung up on a goddamn children’s book. It’s almost enough to put you off your bourbon. But then when you don’t jump into the collective enthusiastic cloud yourself they start asking you shit. “What was your favorite book/movie?” And it’s then you have to make a decision. It’s either something to imply feigning interest or indifference, either of which will leave you subtlety pushed from the conversational flock since you’re not “down with the HP” then to be accosted with “so what do you like?” A baited question for them to shit over whatever different answer comes as a reply. Goddamn these millennial fuckers. If I was that stupid I’d eat ass and read wizard books too. And fuck JK for selling out her own IP on Twitter in an attempt to stay relevant. Stop painting he picture bitch, you’re ruining it.

>> No.12555077

>>12554478
Putting on blackface and larping as a nigger doesn't make you a nigger. Putting on a dress and pretending to be a woman is not the same as actually being a woman. It's all make-believe.

>> No.12555084

>>12555044
It's not new terminology. A trans woman is not the same thing as a man who's been castrated in his youth, which is what a eunuch normally is.

>> No.12555086

>>12555005
no, the author has written slash before though
it has no romance, but it's not like it's the best of all time either, just a new and a readable thing with things happening

>> No.12555097

>>12554718
But trying to cure it by getting people to conform to their assigned gender tends to yield worse results (suicide, actual crippling depression, etc.) than indulging the person and treating them the way they want to be treated.

>> No.12555109

>>12555084
A transwoman is a eunuch that thinks he is a woman. That's all. As for whether it's new terminology or not it depends upon how subjective you want to be about newness.

>> No.12555119

>>12554432
Regardless of whatever rhetoric you're enraptured by, it makes absolutely no sense for feminists to put up with literally a man going "yeah that's right, hey me too right girls! I totally know the struggle of being a woman!"

>> No.12555124

>>12555109
Some trans women have dicks. You're just using the word eunuch wrong.

>> No.12555127

>>12552981
Good analogy. I'll use it next time she's shilling for open borders for Britain.

>> No.12555131

>>12555119
Being a trans woman also isn't the same as claiming to have experienced girlhood as a child.

>> No.12555135

>identify as a trans boxer
>beat the absolute piss out of women

Has this been done yet?

>> No.12555138

>>12553111
No, she's just dumb and emotional. I doubt she understands any of this.

>> No.12555161

>>12554554
Lol fag

>> No.12555173

Lol,
XX female
XY male

Just because you’re confused doesn’t mean I’m hateful

>> No.12555191

>>12555173
Yes it does

>> No.12555200

>>12555191
Stay mad kid

>> No.12555204

>>12555131
It's not the same as anything. Various mentally diseased groups on the fringe have to beg for permission from blacks and women to have victim representation. Its honestly a miracle that it even worked and every feminist isn't a "terf". In an alternate reality trannies got BTFO so hard by women they all mass an heroed.

>> No.12555222

>>12555097
i don't think the evidence bears that claim out. as i said, treatment needs to be individualized. i don't think reconfiguring the entirety of society to enable the delusions of a very small subset of the population is an effective or even feasible option.

>> No.12555223

>>12555204
>I'm right in an alternate reality where all the people I disagree with killed themselves
What are you talking about?
Anyway I can't think of many groups as large, organized, or substantial as trans people who are being denied a platform solely on the basis of feminists not liking them. What other mentally ill people are being denied space by black people and feminists? Are you talking about the two people in existence who have claimed transracial identity

>> No.12555237

>>12555222
That previous comment is my reasoning behind the trans-gender suicide rate which is very high. I think it would be lower if we treated trans men like men and vice versa. I mean what's the harm? What's the worst case scenario if we "enable" trans people

>> No.12555249

>>12555237
Trannies are fucking annoying. You'd know if you ever met one. They deserve to be kept in houses and never let out like dogs, as slaves. They shouldn't be allowed to have free-will out in the real world because they're delusional. And if a tranny can't be sold off, they should be shot and killed.

>> No.12555255

>>12555223
>getting assblasted over an easily understood joke
Look dude you can pretend to not understand that feminists have no reason to play along with some delusional men, it doesn't really matter because "terfs" exist.
>the two transracial people
There are millions of wiggers and they are a universal joke to everyone but their assosciates

>> No.12555275

>>12555255
>millions of wiggers
Not every white guy with dreadlocks considers themselves transracial. Almost all of them don't. That's a false equivalency

Also, not assblasted, just thought it was a dumb joke and a weird fantasy

>> No.12555285

>>12555237
similar to the harm in encouraging a schizophrenic in their delusive beliefs. you don't tell someone that genuinely believes that there are agents out to entrap and murder him to take countermeasures against those imagimary agents. that could lead to serious injury to the patient and others, if they have violent tendencies.
again, treatment must be individualized. this may involve allowances for 'gender expression' that alligns with the patient's swlf-perception. it might not. that's up to the attending physician.
denying there is any problem, however, and even normalizing and generalizing the internal conflicts of these mentally ill people is not a good idea.

>> No.12555287

>>12555275
>wiggers
>dreadlocks
So do you just never visit reality or what

>> No.12555311

>>12555223
>>12555275
There are also
>don't I look Japanese I'm 13/18ths Japanese you know
Tiers of weeaboos and they are also a laughingstock to everyone else. If weeaboos and wiggers decided to team up and demand political legitimacy and representation would you take them seriously?

>> No.12555321

>>12555287
>>12555311
Furthermore significantly more wiggers have been "socialized into the black identity" than the handful of "trans kids" who's parents should be flayed alive

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>>12552981
>(((peckham)))

>> No.12555519

>>12555086
that's fine, I read a ton of hp/naruto fanfiction, so anything i haven't seen before I like.

I was just finding some mildly dark stuff to reread anyway. What is your favorite?

>> No.12555522

>>12555135
Yes. Fallon Fox

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>>12553131
This. Transgenderism is almost always self-diagnosed bullshit. As Germaine Greer said, it's male privilege without male obligation.

>> No.12555586

>>12553131
I feel bad for trannies. I’m skeptical of the convenient gender essentialism that says a person is “pre-wired” with a male brain in a female body or vice versa, but I don’t doubt the influence of foetal hormonal, neurological sex characteristics and other shit on the expression of transgenderism. The sheer variability in human sex characteristics, like testes in XY people and shit, makes me more sympathetic to people who don’t fit neatly into Le binary!! Again, its not simple enough to say “oh they have a ‘female brain’ therefore they are female even though they have a male body”, partly because who the fuck know what a female brain is, homosexual men’s brains are said to be ‘feminised’ in some ways without inducing gender dysphoria, but I don’t think it’s beyond question to think of transgenderism as a kind of intersexuality of the nervous system.

>> No.12555592

>>12555519
usually just hp, although shadow of angmar is probably my favorite and it's tolkien, never watched naruto
other favorite things that come to mind, you probably already know them: black comedy by nonjon, accidental horcrux by the Imaginizer, the boy who lived by santi, elysium for the sleepless souls, the dtrange disappearance of sally-anne, wastelands of time by joe6991, forging the sword by myst shadow, and the natural 20

wbu? any recs?

>> No.12555599

>>12555586
I don't really care about what you think is "possible" and it doesn't matter if true. Being a weird effete outcast male who was picked on by the football team doesn't mean you understand what it's like to be a woman who was ogled every day for 4 years/harrassed/date raped by some guy/willingly fucked the entire football team.

>> No.12555607

>>12552981
Go to tumblr bitch

>> No.12555611

>>12555586
Oops I meant testes in XX people*
>>12555599
I don’t think trannies as a rule claim to understand what it means to be raised as a female or whatever the fuck. There have been biological girls raised as boys who in adulthood decided to identify themselves by their biological gender, do they not have any claim to womanhood?

>> No.12555623

>>12555592
Honestly I've never read lotr, I only watched it as a kid, so I've never read any of its fanfiction.

I'm familiar with all of your recs, though I'm not a fan of black comedy, just got bored of the humor after a while, and never finished elysium. I love accidental horcrux, was actually rereading it lately. I hope chrysalis or whatever the sequel was called updates. Hit the ground running is very similar and good too.

I'll try not to just recommend some of the most famous ones, because you're probably familiar with them too. Though I do enjoy reading Carnivorous Muffin, even if I think Lily and the Art of Being Sisyphus really lost the plot a long time ago and is better for its spinoffs/should only be read in installments, not all the way through. Some rarer fics I really enjoyed: Fur das grosser wohl, Scorpius Malfoy and the Improbable Plot, The Comfortable Wound by Reera the Red, Blackpool by The Divine Comedian.

>> No.12555624

>>12555599
>I don't really care about what you think is "possible" and it doesn't matter if true.
as an aside, this tone here, this tone of 'i am being an asshole but it is righteous because i am aggrieved', if I had to choose a single representative aspect of our culture at this stage, it would be this

>> No.12555670

>telling my wife about the tranny IDF
>she tells me her older sister hated her for a year because she grew boobs first and will never have a wet dream or have her voice crack and trannies are retarded
kek

>> No.12555692

>>12555611
Honestly man I'm not going to engage your bullshit constant pleading. Fuck trannies, I don't feel badly for them like I don't feel badly for mosquitos or pedophiles. And really all of you "well I personally believe it's possible they ARE women even though they aren't and socialization IS relevant excepting when it isn't and biological differences never have mattered" is bullshit, and we both know it. You may not admit it even anonymously which is pathetic, but the emperor is naked.

>> No.12555699

>>12552981
Remus a best

>> No.12555700

>>12555624
That's cool. He's just saying "you know (thing that is obviously bullshit but you know if you hit this bong it's like possible yo)". My telling him is doesn't matter if it's true is a courtesy. It's not. Fuck trannies. They are inherently revolting and will have to live their lives bitching about that. Too bad. Cry about it.

>> No.12555730

>>12555623
you don't need to know lotr to enjoy shadow of angmar, it's hp gets dropped into the universe with no possessions, has to use mythopoeia to survive, not during the time of the movies
>never finished elysium
hope you at least got to the big reveal, it's what makes the whole thing memorable
accidental horcrux/chrysalis guy has mental issues and it seems he run out of plans at some point, I'll continue reading but I don't expect much
black comedy I read a few years ago, but I remember it being way better structured and polished than most fics

I'll check out those recs, one or two ring a bell but I don't think I have read them in their entirety. Oh, and Dragon from Ash is a nice elder scrolls fic, author knows his chim.

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>>12552981
if i had bellatrix lestrange on my team there's no way i could be asexual
goth girls are hot

>> No.12555761

>>12552981
Is there any literature dedicated solely to quidditch?

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>>12552981
>On the misogynist thinking which puts a rapist in a women's prison
Just deserts.

>> No.12555770

>>12555730
I'll check it out then, sounds fun. I'm enjoying the HP fic you recommended earlier, so I'll check out the other one too. I think I should probably go back to Elysium because honestly that doesn't ring a bell.

I don't remember black comedy that well, but I remember it being polished, just not particularly funny to me, so I dropped it. I looked for recs that are rarer, since I know how annoying it is to see the same thing recommended over and over and over again. I'll warn you that the last two are both about Regulus Black to a significant extent (with two very different styles of writing and characters though). Fur das grosser wohl was very fun, though unfortunately also very unfinished. I don't think the author had much of a plot in mind, but the idea was interesting. The Scorpius one is just funny. I just scrolled through some of my bookmarks/favorites and picked some that I'd read recently. I don't think I've ever read a serious nextgen fic that I actually liked. What type of stuff do you normally read?

>> No.12555822

>>12555097
Don't lie you fucking nigger. You lying piece of shit.
Tranny suicide rates remain steady at around 40% before and after transition. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness which leads to other mental illnesses, which remain before and after transition. Transition and "treating them the way they want to be treated" does not solve their mental health issues. In some cases it intensifies them.
If you wanna help these people don't boldfaced lie about facts. You're a goddamn piece of trash.

>> No.12555853

>>12555692
>Honestly man I'm not going to engage your bullshit constant pleading.
Like um are you for real wow I’m just not going to engage wow...
I didn’t say anything you attributed to me. I didn’t say trannies are in fact women, neither did I say biological differences have never mattered. You seem upset. Why didn’t you respond to my example of a girl raised as a boy who decides to identify as female in adulthood? There have been many people raised as a gender that was *not* their biological one—it was a common medical in the 20th century, where they would castrate boys whose penises were “too small” or girls whose clitorises were “too big”. Since your argument is largely that trannies are arrogant for “assuming they know what its like to be a woman”, why shouldn’t the same be said of these people who have been socialised one way and then decide to revert to identifying with their biological sex? I have a feeling you are annoyed at the ambiguities this highlights.

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>>12555853
Literally didn't read. This is pathetic. Fuck trannies. In two years you'll be saying shit like this about pedophiles if you don't snap out of it. Trannies are being used to normalized children consenting to life altering sex changes and sexual exhibition via jazz jennings and desmond as we speak. Fuck you anon. You are definitionally a useful idiot.

>> No.12555887

>>12555867
Distracted from a sober analysis by temporal and speculative political worries. Dumb Semite moralist..

>> No.12555896

>>12555770
>What type of stuff do you normally read?
Actually I haven't read fics in a while, since updates dried out and I forgot, but I recently noticed that time travel fic and got the itch to read hp stuff again. Wait, also when life is strange 2 came out I decided to play the first one, and tried to find something cool to read in that universe, but only managed to read a bunch of garbage.

Normally in fics I just want something that doesn't make me physically cringe, and as an added bonus is not a retread of the canon. It's probably easier to say what I don't read than what I read.

>> No.12555900

>>12555853
socialization does not exhaust sex determination, neither socialized personality nor the biochemistry underlying behaviors and other processes. you are starting from a false premise and drawing stupid conclusions.

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>>12555887
yikes my dude

>> No.12555947

>>12555900
When you say neither socialisation nor biochemistry ‘exhaust’ sex determination, what do you mean? I’m not trying to make the metaphysical claim that trans women ARE women, which I find specious. But the argument that a tranny has no ‘right’ to identify as a woman for lack of female socialisation or experience is just another kind of spurious. If we recognise that an XY person who was castrated at birth, raised as female and given hormones might have some inner-spark or some shit that makes him decide in adulthood that he is “really” a man has some claim to legitimacy, I don’t think it’s far-fetched to say the same for an XY with “female brain chemistry” or some shit.
>>12555905
>Le shaggy meme!!
back to Facebook

>> No.12555982

>>12555947
again, these are such rarified cases that it's basically irrelevant. the political demand of transexuals is not only recognizance as a protected class on par with homosexuals or blacks, but that everyone participate in the loe that their delusion is actually true. that is unacceptable.

>> No.12556006

>>12555982
Yes, I agree. But my political disagreements don’t FORCE me to have a permanent 24/7 grudge against all trannies and disavow everything related to them. I’m a faggot, which has made me prefer the idea the personal is not subordinate to the political—the idea of homos as nothing more than an easily bribed political or consumer bloc nauseates me.

>> No.12556037

>>12556006
okay.

>> No.12556054

>>12556037
bitch

>> No.12556057

>>12555124
Eunuchs can have dicks. See >>12554367
If you've got a dick and balls you're a man baby!

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>>12555947
Yikes. Trannies are sub human genetic garbage at best if your pleading unsubstantiated hypotheses are somewhat accurate.

>> No.12556125

>>12555058
Couldn't agree more. I read the books because I was a teenager when they came out. They were entertaining. It's not like I was an avid reader back then, so for a series of books to grab my attention was quite a feat.

However, I did what most people do with their childhood interests; I grew out of it. There is still a bit of respect I have for HP, but none of it is shared with the hordes of fans that still live their lives based off of a childrens book.

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>>12555200

The transgender defender wants yous, and we're giving them to it...

Oh well fuck it. It was sunny out today...

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JK Rowling and her spawn of fanatics may try to keep the series relevant by hackneyed post-hoc constructions that Dumbledore was gay, Hermione was black and He Who Must Not Be Named was asexual, but that does little to dress up one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>> No.12556201

>>12554445
Is this a poem?

>> No.12556242

>>12556201
Honestly no idea why I was writing like that

>> No.12556255

>>12553096
*rent

>> No.12556260

>>12553131
Trannys are the blackface of women.

>> No.12556263

>>12556242
based

>> No.12556950

>>12555896
fair enough, I go through phases of complete obsession every year or so where I read like 100 fics in 10 days then drop it for another year, so I'm fairly up to date on what's going on. It's a trashy hobby but it's nice to see someone else that's into this kind of thing

>> No.12557005

>>12552981
Can we get back on topic guys? Is Voldemort asexual? Surely Mr Filch is asexual.

>> No.12557064

>>12555867
>In two years you'll be saying shit like this about pedophiles if you don't snap out of it
retard

>> No.12557075

>>12557064
It's already happening mr ostrich

>> No.12557083

>>12557064
you said trump lied when he said democrats wanted 9th month abortions in the debate against hillary, but if governor coonman didn't conveniently have his yearbook discovered we would all be talking about his post-birth abortion bill, where the baby is kept "comfortable" while the mother decides if she wants to kill it or not, everyone said trump was bugging out stretching the truth, but here we are

>> No.12557150

Can I get a quick rundown on why exactly a fraction of a percent of people cross-dressing or being so mentally unhinged that they chop off their own dick has suddenly become one of the most serious, contentious issues western civilization has ever seen
Like ten years ago did any of this shit exist? Did anybody give a shit? I was only 11, I genuinely don't know, but I feel like it couldn't have. Is it going to be a passing trend?

>> No.12557153

>>12557075
You are unbelievably retarded. Leftists make a huge stink about the concept of "consent," and children are incapable of consenting.
>>12557083
First, "I" said no such thing. Second, one guy's journal is not evidence of what "democrats" think.

>> No.12557276

>>12557150
as a topic of national interest it is very new
but it came up with gay lib and all that, although it was marginal even in those circles

>> No.12557309

>>12557153
I'm not going to go and find the pictures of "desmond" and various other examples of these abused kids paraded around as "proud and brave trans kids". You're most probably already aware of them. What do you think will come from this line of reasoning that kids can permanently mutilate themselves on a whim? We will probably also see a push for the voting age to be lowered to at least 16 soon because kids are retarded and teachers are activists. Bet.

>> No.12558138

>>12552981
>Jk lawling is a terf
Wew lad

>> No.12558213

>>12557150
1. The democrats needed a civil rights platform to run on after gay marriage
2. The social engineers wish to shape our language according to their ideology (because culture is downstream from language) and the trans issue is just a way to get control over our language (per law and on the big internet platforms)

>> No.12558231

>>12558213
The only person I'll ever vote for at this point is the tortured soul of Eugene V. Debs bound to a giant robot running on the campaign promise of burning Washington to the ground and leaving no one alive

>> No.12558264

>>12553091
To this day one of the finest posts on this board

>> No.12558285

>>12558264
Being butthurt is a point now?

>> No.12558330

>>12558285
It's a marvel of polemical character attack with a happy ending

>> No.12558346

>>12553091
fucking wew

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>>12553139

>> No.12558391

>>12554445
>No.
open console and type showracemenu
cmon man

>> No.12558398

>>12558285
Kys retard

>> No.12558477

>>12552981
Voldemort is a nigger!

>> No.12558484

>>12558398
I take that as a no.

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>>12558264
ahem

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>>12558264

>> No.12558845

>>12558670
I completely forgot about this. Jesus I was in highschool when i first read this.
I have to feign shock and disgust whenever anyone shows me what they consider a disturbing or shocking video or photo, because I've seen pretty much everything. 4chan completely changed my world view, I admired Fritzles' building skills when i first heard the news.

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>>12558666
xxX_based_Xxx

>> No.12558894

>>12557005
>Surely Mr Filch is asexual.
no, but he just can't get laid. i mean he has pretty bad personal hygiene
he probably abuses his cat

>> No.12558895

>>12558845
It's just fiction dude.

>> No.12558904

/lit/ should be called an asexual faggot's blog. enough with your bullshit. go seek attention somewhere else you fucking moron

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>>12554497
I don't think transgenders think they can fully replicate the gender experience like you claim they are.

>>12554554
>as a kid i wore my mom's bras sometimes when she was at work because they were soft and smelled like her and i missed her
Sounds hella gay