/lit/ - Literature

is it actually death you wish for, or merely the end to the terror of death?

why were you hugging the fridge?

>>12549569
The existentialists

>>12549569
Thanks OP, it's posts like this that make me realize I'm not nearly as miserable as I could be.

>tried
reading Wiki articles doesn't count you unintelligent waste
if you desire death so much, stab yourself in the neck, do it without a moment of thought and you'll no longer need to spend all your time wishing

>>12549594
I desire an end to living would be more accurate, the idea of death is appealing but I will most likely fear it when it arrives.
>>12549597
Starved of human contact, just kinda happened when I went to get some water. I enjoyed it desu. Felt nice to hug something even if it wasn’t alive or soft.
>>12549599
Any specific recs? I’ve only really read Dosto, Sartre and Camus.
>>12549618
Glad to be of service.
>>12549627
Edgy

>>12549569
are you a cishet guy?

>>12549645
of course, and would I be wrong in assuming that you believe yourself to be the furthest thing from edgy?

>>12549645
>Any specific recs? I’ve only really read Dosto, Sartre and Camus.
Not him, but read Kierkegaard. Repetition is short, great, and seems to pertain to your situation.

>>12549645
why are you starved of human contact

Platonism won't help much unless you supplement with the Neoplatonist, otherwise Plato's works are incomplete.

Also, read about Pali Buddhism and Vedantic Hinduism. It may help.

>>12549686

I'm not going to lie, i did time because I was running around a mall spraying people with a spray bottle filled with my own semen. I'm a sex offender now and am actively trying to acquire a squire to instruct, but I've been repeatedly rebuffed by armed citizens and am basically now barricaded in my housing development.

>>12549656
Yes
>>12549669
Yes
>>12549678
Thank you, I’ll look into it.
>>12549686
I don’t really know, it’s just the way I am I guess. Never really been able to connect with another soul in any meaningful way.
>>12549696
Those sound helpful, thank you anon.

>>12549707
Okay dude you have to work at it. Sorry a paternal figure never taught you how to do this. Literally make an effort to talk to anyone anywhere you go.

>>12549696
lmao this is awful advice, no. youre better off with this >>12549678 or Nietzsche

>>12549707
then why isn't my solution to your liking?

>>12549719
I don’t really have a problem with talking to people. I can hold conversations fine and usually make people laugh, I’m not super quite or shy either. I just never seem to hit at anything more meaningful or substantive.
>>12549733
Whoops sorry I meant “no”. My mistake.

no books will help you until you will not help yourself faggot. Learn to be not so pathetic as to have at least a minimum of your possible autonomy and think by yourself.

>>12549741
Have you ever asked somebody a more meaningful or substantive question? Balls in your court dude you dont have to be subserviant to other people’s level of discourse.

>>12549727
Why do you think that it's awful advice? If OP has suicidal tendencies, then developing a metaphysical viewpoint could definitely help, since it makes the physical world less serious and significant. Also, Pali Buddhism is particularly helpful since it gives you tools to deal with suffering. Modern Buddhist movements are admittedly pretty bad and have lost the way. You have to go back to the origins.

>>12549754
That’s true, I guess I hadn’t really thought about it like that. I’ll try to do this more often if I get the opportunity.

>>12549727
Buddhism is based and there’s lots of relevant wisdom in Hindu philosophy imo

>>12549763
why the fuck would he need a metaphysical system when he can just deal immediately with his psychological problems? you realize you sound like a snakeoil salesman right?

>>12549569
I see this question often, and often I pass it.

A self-help book (whether it's unintentional or intentional) to drive out the nasty thoughts and give you an epiphany that you desire life is situational. Bringing out this desire to live is easy, people will recommend books all day long and you may read them all, but it will seem purposeless and this drive is squashed by a lack of direction or goal. The way I've found past this is to experience life outside your house: go to a local coffee shop, or diner, and read the book there. It's brutally cliche perhaps but do it, sitting in a dungeon will make you bitter. Take time with your books too, racing to absorb everything will exhaust you. Try to apply the symbology of the book to your life if you can, feeling a personal connection with the material gives a stronger feeling of change within yourself.

As far as books go:

Fiction: A Clockwork Orange

Non-fiction: Thus Spoke Zarathustra (unironically a nice follow-up to Bronze Age Mindset)

>>12549792
> caring about mental health and not spiritual health

Fuck off, pashu scum.

>>12549764
I’m a pretty social guy, but I often have a deep anxiety about interactions and often express the same dissatisfaction you are. Just dont forget somebody at all times is directing the course of conversation, usually arbitrarily. Just as anybody has the ability to strike up a conversation about anything (any of the dumbshit you hear people talking about on the streets all day), you equally have the ability to introduce something substantive and meaningful into a conversation and see how your interlocutors react. I’m not suggesting you go out like Diogenes or Socrates and purposefully nut on people. I’m just suggesting the principle of charity along with your own natural abilities to communicate effectively can help you get to where you want to be a lot more easily than you think. Social conventions are kind of out of whack right now anyways considering the increasing diversity/globalization of our enviornments.

>>12549816
Nigger I’m a Nietzschean don’t get me started on spiritual health. Take your life denying pajeet philosophy and shove it up your ass.

>>12549824
> Nigger
> Nietzschean

cringe and bluepilled. don't worry you'll turn 16 someday and realize Nietzsche was a brainlet retard. until then enjoy being a weak GAYtheist loser.

>>12549837
all this ressentiment. stay mad faggot.

>>12549569
You should read Riddley Walker

>>12549824
> pajeet philosophy
> life-denying

ever heard of tantra, dummy? it's more life-affirming than anything nietzche could even fathom. he was literally a myopic, low IQ syphallus ridden beta virgin begging some thot to marry him and going crazy from seeing a horse beaten like a pussy (for all his rhetoric on strength). he was worse than that kid who shotgunned his face on livestream. enjoy worshipping that beta faggot.

>>12549840
> ressentiment

>>12549569
Do theater, anon. It'll solve your problem.

>>12549862
>>12549865
the snakeoil sure is strong today.

>What are some books that will make me stop
People are like
>is there anyone who will teach me how to live easy life with the minimal effort from my side?
even if people recommend them really good books which help you to escape mind traps or just give you a very different direction of thought, such people have hopes that this book will solve, like, everything, while they are doing nothing. And of course no book will do, so in the end they get upset.
Such people read tons of books just to live the life described in the book, to have an illusion of change without an actual change, trying to fulfill the emptiness of the void in their soul without actual desire to remove this emptiness completely. Self-help book writers are very well aware of such kind of people and they constantly milk their money.
You can think you may help them, but as long as the minimum effort requires to reach the goal, they are helpless.

>>12549984
>even if people recommend them really good books which help you to escape mind traps or just give you a very different direction of thought, such people have hopes that this book will solve, like, everything, while they are doing nothing. And of course no book will do, so in the end they get upset.
This I can agree with. The rest of your post is reaching imo.
>just to live the life described in the book, to have an illusion of change without an actual change
If they are changing the way they live their lives, even if it's mimicry at its' core, is that not real change? Their actions will be different even if their thoughts do not follow.
>trying to fulfill the emptiness of the void in their soul without actual desire to remove this emptiness
Doesn't the effort of spending hours reading a book and changing the way they live their lives imply the genuine and honest desire for improvement? Same for your next point. Doesn't this qualify as "minimum effort"?

Your initial point is valid imo but I feel like you're painting with too broad a brush and inferring too much.

>>12549824
Nietzsche
>anti-vedic
>literally makes the premise of his book the refutation of zoraster

what did he mean by this...

>>12549645
I think you need human contact the most.
Which age are you?

>>12549698

read yogavasishta by venkatasendana

>>12549803
Good post. Why do you recommend Clockwork Orange specifically tho? I haven’t read it in a while but I don’t see how it’s relevant to the OP.

Go on a high ropes course or something like that which simulates grave danger

>>12549569
Just kill yourself for god's sake, you tedious retard. Put yourself and everybody who comes across you of their misery.

>>12553056
Read this anons diary desu. It would make even the bravest souls off themselves.

Kill yourself and you will regret it. Dont kill yourself, and you will also regret it. Kill yourself or dont, either way you will regret it.