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Was he a fagot for committing suicide?

>> No.12540424

>>12540375
No, he was too pure and had to leave.

>> No.12540435

>>12540375
there was a medication issue
he was medicated all the way—who knows what revenge it will take on you
same thing happened to William Styron with beer

>> No.12540440

>>12540424
I'm tempted to leave as well.

>> No.12540450

>>12540440
me too

>> No.12540455

>>12540440
>>12540450
Are you two pure?

>> No.12540460

>>12540375
he stopped taking the anti-depressants he had been taking for decades because he thought they were giving him stomach problems. he had a very bad reaction to the withdrawal and he spiraled.

>> No.12540493

>>12540455
as the driven snow underneath your galoshes

>> No.12540501

>>12540493
then be as the snow, and melt

>> No.12540516

>>12540435
>>12540460
I posted this last "why did DFW kill himself" thread.
DFW was depressed from age 16, he tried a lot of different meds and eventually settled on Nardil in his 20s.
He got sick after eating at a Persian restaurant and it was thought to be an interaction with his Nardil, he was entering middle age and Nardil can cause hypertension which is a major concern for middle aged men, he went to a new (academic) psychiatrist, who misrepresented Nardil as archaic and "dirty," without presenting the full benefit/drawback list to the family for them to decide.
They got him off nardil and before they could figure out some adequate replacement ya boy hung himself. This is the danger of stopping the depression medications that are helping you, but it really is the psychiatrist's fault for not explaining to the family that they actually had a lot of options like continuing the med and watching bp, or starting some kind of ACEI, or even more slowly phasing out of Nardil while trying other meds.
Reminder that psychiatry used to be one of the easiest medical specialties to enter and is now getting pretty competitive, up there with anesthesia and rads. The system realized how much money a smart psychiatrist saves the rest of them, so they started getting smart kids into the field. Every year it's gonna keep getting better, you should see the psych gunners of 2019, this shit is nuts. So feel free to go see a psychiatrist and feel safe following their instructions, but also feel free to get a second opinion or ask for more information.

>> No.12540539

>>12540501
my only notes on Paul de Man are about the mute woodcutter in the woods and the snowman

In “Autobiography as De-Facement” (1979), de Man refers to a mute woodsman, created by the English poet William Wordsworth in The Excursion (1814), who lives in complete isolation because he can neither hear nor speak. Wordsworth provided the reader a perspective on this figure by referring to the face of the Sun—moving above him—as representing a grace that redeems life. For de Man, however, the woodsman—who cannot know even the sounding waterfall in the woods, which to him is no more than a picture—embodies humanity in its abysmal loneliness.

De Man instead took his own view of the isolated woodcutter, humanity’s representative, and, as he wrote in a controversial phrase at the end of the essay, “death is a displaced name for a linguistic predicament.” His woodsman is like Stevens’s snowman, “the listener, who listens in the snow,”
And, nothing himself, beholds
Nothing that is not there
and the nothing that is.

>> No.12540557

>>12540516
thanks
see a nurse practitioner, but thanks for the hope

>> No.12540575

>>12540557
Good NPs are good, if you turn out to be beyond their scope they'll make sure you see someone who can handle you. No problem there. Good luck friend.

>> No.12540632

>>12540516
... many smart people choosing psychiatry than past time is not equal to psychiatrist is safe now...

>> No.12540659

>>12540632
psychiatry has always been bretty safe, risks are reasonable for the reward, psychiatrists are more and more competent now.
Fuck off tom cruise.

>> No.12540663

>>12540375
Yes a faggot

>> No.12540699

>>12540659
Psychiatry as a field is at risk of being completely invalidated by any breakthrough in neuroscience. It's the modern equivalent of witch craft.

>> No.12540741

>>12540699
thought the genome was going to rewrite the DSM

>> No.12540750

>>12540699
if someone’s drowning, throw them the best you’ve got

>> No.12540755

>>12540659
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299662/
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/big-new-study-confirms-antidepressants-work-better-placebo/
https://qz.com/1212804/researchers-are-still-working-to-prove-that-antidepressants-are-more-effective-than-placebo/amp/

don't just read title, read full article of it. consider all the adverse effect of SSRI. this is pure joke.

you know this is /lit/ where everyone sucks dick to foucault and deleuze, right? have you ever read any of them? do you know how they define mental disorder and schizophrenia?

>> No.12540758

>>12540699
sure bud

>> No.12540766
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12540766

>When a philosophy major tries to talk about science and doesn't accept nuanced solutions to complex problems
pretty much meets expectations t bh
>>12540755

>> No.12540775

>>12540755
they said society defines mental illness, but it’s real, anon

>> No.12540815

>>12540699
>any breakthrough in neuroscience
If you knew what psychiatry is you'd know that any breakthrough in neuroscience just becomes a breakthrough in psychiatry. Don't confuse psychiatry with psychology.

If we really do totally revolutionize neuroscience, most likely neurology and psychiatry would fuse.

>> No.12540820

>>12540766
>nuanced
nice word choice, STEMfag
that sure will be such a nuanced solution when whole pharmacodynamics is fucking infancy level and being (you) decided to pretend not to know even though replication crisis and the problem of active placebo are right there

>> No.12540829

>>12540820
triggered lmao

>> No.12540888

I got a book from the library called Captured: Unraveling the Mystery of Mental Suffering because there's a whole chapter on DFW in it. The actual book looks like pseud nonsense but I'll see.

>> No.12541021

>>12540888
reading this now—thank you, anon

>> No.12541361

>>12540888
very interesting
drugs, madly driven to excel by his relationship with his mother, the medications issue

>> No.12541366

>>12540516
fuck off pill merchant

>> No.12541374

>>12540829
u would be triggered too if u were still capable of feeling u medicated robot person pill junkie p zombie fuck

>> No.12541435

>>12540888
think if you read that chapter, you won’t be angry with him for doing it
the “Captured” metaphor—not sure about that
makes for a good story though

>> No.12541452

>>12541374
still feel on meds, at least in my experience
dehumanizing is very primitive of you

>> No.12541504

>>12540440
We all are.

Who is up to a collective farewell? You know, going out with a bang?