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>this shit won a hugo award

lmao

>> No.12438717

It was ok, I do not see a problem.

>> No.12438719

why'd you include a picture of the author as well?

>> No.12438736

Judging by the picture of author in your post, you haven't read the novel, your problem is not with writing and you should go back.

>> No.12438750

>>12438719
Op might be part of the /pol/ subhumans that tried to sway the Hugo and Nebula toward proto fascist authors, hence he would be a racist and also hate women.

>> No.12438774

>>12438736
Op is a gamergater of sci-fi !

>> No.12438775

>doesn't read the novel
>posts on lit about how shit it is because leblackpeoplecantwrite.jpeg


Yikes!

>> No.12438783

Time to go back to /pol/, OP.

>> No.12438795

>>12438775
Funny how sad it is, ain't it?

>> No.12438805

>>12438750
this is the gayest post I've ever seen on 4chan

>> No.12438810

>write shitty novel
>use initials for pen name to make it more vague
>fish picture of niggress off somewhere it won't be reverse image searched
>submit to agents, including image of negro and a line or two about my struggles as a strong black wimminz of color
>???
>profit?

>> No.12438812

>>12438711
The Hugos went to shit in 2001

>> No.12438814

look, are we gonna keep bitching about this shit or are we gonna start posting dick pics and rating each other's?

>> No.12438824

>>12438711
Why do people get triggered by SJW shit so much?
Do you get triggered by kids or downies getting awards too?
Just ignore it.

>> No.12438829

>>12438805
Can't handle the truth kid?

>> No.12438830

>>12438814

you first

>> No.12438833

>>12438711
The series has won 3, actually.

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12438842

>the name of magical people in the novel is an anagram of "negroes"
>when they get angry people, they are likely to ""involuntarily"" injure people around them
>the locals hate and distrust them and refer to them with derogatory term "roggas"
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.12438852

>>12438830
Nah bruh I'm shy. It's only 6" anyways and has fordyce spots all on it.

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12438854

>>12438842

>> No.12438866

>>12438854
what is this sonic fanfiction jesus christ

>> No.12438868

The Hugos should be split into two awards: The Real Hugos, and the NIGGER Hugos. The latter Hugos would be only for niggers

>> No.12438869

>nigs on your canon
>nogs about whyyyfollll

>> No.12438871

>>12438868
Wait, and women. Niggers and women

>> No.12438878

/pol/ pol everywhere these subhumans are desperate (and laughable).

>> No.12438883

>>12438878
Just because I hate niggers doesn't mean I post on /pol/. Don't stereotype me.

>> No.12438891

>>12438878
if you think >>12438854 deserves to be published, let alone an award, you need to neck yourself.
if you are incapable of seeing that it won a reward simply for diversity brownie points, you are a mouthbreathing retard.

>> No.12438894

Sage this is not /lit/

>> No.12438910

>>12438891
I actually read it retard! I was the first to reply that I read it and did not see the problem, you have not read it, you are the problem mate.

>> No.12438928

>>12438894
based

>> No.12438936

>>12438910
He didn't ask if you read it, you dumb nigger. He said if you think it should have won a Hugo you're a retard.

>> No.12438941

>>12438891
Go back to jerking off to Ben Shapiro or Richard Spencer you pathetic subhuman poltard.

>> No.12438952

has a nigger ever wrote a book worth reading? the answer may surprise you

>> No.12438959

>>12438936
Read you moron; I wrote that I had no problem with it: this means I had no problem with it winning a Hugo. You are so hellbent on being a subhuman you cannot even read and understand a simple thread.

>> No.12438967

>>12438959
Yeah, and therefore you're a retard.

>You are so hellbent on being a subhuman
Nah, I'm not black.

>> No.12439003

>>12438967
>Greentech
>Admits implicitly being a racist
>Has not read the book

There we have it : a board and a poltard

>> No.12439015
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12439015

>>12439003
N I G G E R

>> No.12439018

>>12439003
>using the word racist in 2019
just say 'unduly prejudiced' or some similar phrase, brainlet

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>>12438814
be gentle

>> No.12439035

>>12438829
The proto-fascist author is better than the best nibuh-noggin author to ever live, and the proto-fascist author in question (Vox Day) fucking sucks ass at writing.

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>>12438711
Basically all science fiction is shit. Perhaps this is more shit than the others, but its still just comparing excrement.

Read Shakespeare, read Dostoevsky, read Kafka, read Flaubert, read Joyce, read Tolstoy, read Melville, read Dante, read Milton. Don't take time for this feces.

>> No.12439047

>>12439018
This is /lit/ newfriend, here words carry meaning, plus you have an opinion on a book you didn't ever bother reading.

>Checkmate

>> No.12439049

>>12439039
wrong

>> No.12439061

>>12438941
Um sweety just because we recognize that niggers are fucking retarded doesn't mean we like Ben Shapiro or Dick Spencer.

It's NOT OKAY to stereotype us, so, um, sweet pea, y'all bettuh finnuh shut yo fuckin' mouf or I'll file a LOLsuit against you for being so prejudiced and hateful.

>> No.12439065

op here. i did read it. it was alright. just noticed the author was black when i finished it and wanted to trigger some faggots.

only thing i didn't really like was how the main character fell in love in a pirate and had a mmf threeway. could smell the author's dusty cunt reaching out to me.

i did like the whole slavery theme.

>> No.12439073

>>12439049
Nope, right. (ur gay)

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>>12439047
>words carry meaning
>uses the most devalued word of the 20th century (besides fascism) unironically

>> No.12439103

>>12439033
8/10 would devour ravenously

>> No.12439116

>>12439076
You really are not even trying newfriend because even a moron can see that I also wrote "proto-facist" .
You have the intellect and arguments of a goldfish you subhuman poltard. Do you need an emoji to sooth your insecurity?

>> No.12439126

>>12439116
>so schizophrenic he expects other to keep track of which anonymous posts are his
>cant spell fascist correctly but insults others' intelligence
kino

>> No.12439144

>>12439116
>some reddit nigger has made it his personal crusade on a saturday afternoon to shout at random racists on /lit/ and nobody is even noticing

lmao

>> No.12439149

>>12438719
Because she's a black African nigger and the Hugo Awards are just arbitrarily handed out, just like every other dumb trophy, by the people on some Hugo Award committee, and the people on the Hugo Award committee are very, very likely to just automatically pick a femorrhoid or darkie so that they can have the prestige of their trophy.

And the real kicker is that not only has she won one, but she's won three consecutive best novel awards for books in the SAME, STALE SERIES. And the Hugo Awards just does this all the time. JK Rowling won a best novel Hugo for the fourth, yes, the FOURTH tired iteration of her obnoxious and awful Harry Potter series.

This is not surprising given that this is a trophy made up so that the same people who think that Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein, and Bradbury are the best writers ever could give out their own trophy to the bland shit that they like.

>> No.12439165

Gamergate, gamergate everywhere!

>> No.12439184

>but wiminz
>But nignogz
>Ma fweedumbs
>Murrrrrricaaaa

Gr8b8m8

>> No.12439213

>>12439039
This. Fucking newfags.

>> No.12439256

>>12439039
If you have time for reading Turguenev, your life's too long.

>> No.12439286

>>12438868
Didn't know Harlan Ellison posted here

>> No.12439290

>>12439165
>>12439184
are you ok

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>>12438842
top kek

>> No.12439347

what book should have won this precious award?

>> No.12439759

>>12438711
WE

>> No.12440050

>>12438711
Friendly reminder that Vox Day called her an half savage because He's a master of understatement.

>> No.12440298

>fault reminder: because I am an insecure immature special flower I can blame others for my failures.

>> No.12440319

>>12440050
You do understand that your bloodline needs to end the sooner possible you subhuman piece of shit.

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>>12438829

>> No.12440342

>I am afraid of women and skin pigmentation, I have the moral high ground, this novel does not warrant a Hugo,not my opinion, just science.

>> No.12440370

>>12440328
>He's right, quick I must meme!

>> No.12440372

>>12439073
ur gayer tho

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>>12439116
>facist
my oh my oh my

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12440392

>>12440342
>>12440319
>>12440298
>>12439184
>>12439165
>>12439003
>>12438910
>>12438878
>>12438829
>>12438783
>>12438750
>>12438719
>>12438736
>calling people racists on 4chan

>> No.12440404

>70 posts
>27 IPs
Yikes!

>> No.12440419

Three simple questions to those criticising the award:

1- Have you read the book?
2- Have you read ANY of the other nominees?
3- If so, which would be your pick, and why?

I know 90% will probably stop at the first question (me included) so there's that lmao. The book honestly sounds like standard fantasy fanfare, but people are just butthurt for the obvious reasons.

>> No.12440422

>>12440419
Yeah I've read it the book is bad race pandering shit. Her being a nigger makes her obsessed with being a nigger, so the book becomes a shallow roman a clef about race.

>> No.12440439

>>12439149
All literary prizes these days are attempts to virtue signal for sponsor endowments.

>> No.12440444

>>12440422

Honestly, this kind of criticism sounds just like the people who say Tolkien was racist lol

>> No.12440449

>>12438711
NIGGER

>> No.12440454

>>12438775
The Hugo's have been kiked for years. Gays, trannies and sword fighting with cocks is the only reason it won an award. You're welcome to list any other black authors who've written good fantasy but we both know you can't

>> No.12440460

>>12438842
lol holy shit is this real?

>> No.12440478

>>12438711
>>this shit didn't win a hugo award

>> No.12440481

>>12440454

Charles R. Saunders, Octavia E. Butler, Samuel R. Delany.

>inb4 bashing them for no reason

>> No.12440485

>>12440392
So what he does make a point.

>> No.12440503

>>12440454
Samefagging much?

>> No.12440569

>>12440503
um no...

>> No.12440609

>>12440481
Samuel R. Delany.
>His work includes fiction, memoir, criticism and essays on sexuality and society.
lol nope. Also he's more gay than black.
Octavia E Butler
>in Kindred, Dana, an African-American woman, is transported from 1976 Los Angeles to early 19th-century Maryland. She meets her ancestors: Rufus, a white slave holder, and Alice, a black freewoman forced into slavery later in life. In "Near of Kin" the protagonist discovers a taboo relationship in her family as she goes through her mother's things after her death.
And that's not even the psyonic vampires story.
Charles Saunders
>Two novels and a lot of essays about racism in fantasy and why niggers don't read sci fi.
Great pick
You sure got me.

>> No.12440616

>>12438711
Lets be honest here. The book is trash. However, it's important to have more representation so it's good that she won. /pol/ can fuck off btw.

>> No.12440617

>>12438711
America was a mistake. Prove me wrong.

>> No.12440627

>>12440370
lol nigga you gay as hell
gas the kikes etc.

>>12440616
kek you suck at baiting, not even worth the image

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>>12438711
I hope Chuck Tingle manages to win one day

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12440642

>>12440627
>/pol/ thinks that everything that doesn't agree with their worldview is bait
Every time...

>> No.12440651

>>12440616
Why is it important to have more representation?

>> No.12440657

>>12440642
nice tumblr gif tranny

>> No.12440664

>>12440616
This is cancer to culture. Worse than cancer, actually. Giving underserved awards just because of the writer's perceived race. It's basically the equivalent of being a literal Nazi, but you reward certain labelled people instead of killing them. America is a degenerate country.

>> No.12440676

>>12438842
Sounds pretty based

>> No.12440686

>>12440651
To have equality of course.

>>12440664
>wanting equality is the same as nazism
Yikes...

>> No.12440704

>>12440686
>wanting equality is the same as nazism
Forcing equality is the same as forcing genocide. Any social chance that needs to be forced does more harm than good in the long run. Progressive people have in fact more things in common with the Nazis than they believe. I know you come from plebbit but please be redpilled before posting here, please.

>> No.12440705

>>12440686
Wanting equality is worse than nazism

>> No.12440717

>>12440686
Equality is a pretty broad and simplistic term. Can you be more specific? Do you mean every book should have equal representation for every race, gender, eye color, height, disability, weight, iq, etc? Or do you mean something else?

>> No.12440718

>>12440651
It helps darkies get with pretty white girls

>> No.12440719

>>12440704
You have been reading to many right wing conspiracy theories. There is no "forcing equality", because it's compensation for historical injustices and to compensate for white privilege. I'm going to ignore the fact that you use nazi term like "redpill" and so on. Be better.

>> No.12440724

>>12440719
What injustice did swedes do to blacks and Arabs then mr smart?

>> No.12440726

>>12440719
Whites have suffered historical injustices too though

>> No.12440728

>>12440719
>There is no "forcing equality", because it's compensation for historical injustices and to compensate for white privilege.
How about you give some justification that isn't pure ideology.

>> No.12440729

>>12440724
Swedes might not have done anything, but they still carry white privilege from the actions of American whites, British people and so on.

>> No.12440741

>>12440719
>There is no "forcing equality"
Giving awards to underserving nigger authors and artists is exactly that, forcing equality. If equality comes from a non-organic source, it'll do more harm than good in the long run.
> because it's compensation for historical injustices and to compensate for white privilege
Are you actually condoning white guilt? Cringe. You don't owe anything to these people, if that's what you've been brainwashed to believe. Neither you are guilty of anything. It's depressing that many spineless and shitty people think like this. It's backwards and pathetic, to say the least.

>> No.12440742

>>12440729
So by that logic do Kenyans carry black culpability for the rampant crime committed by niggers in the states?

>> No.12440748

>>12440729
This has to be b8. Genuinely consider suicide if you're serious.

>> No.12440754

>>12440719
Any "injustices" done by white people in the past were more than repaid by the good deeds that went along with them, like bringing civilization to people who otherwise wouldn't have developed any for another thousand years.

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>>12438719
>>12438736
>>12438775
>>12438783
>>12438795
shit man, even one of those went for the "yikes"

>> No.12440770

>>12440754
>civilization is inherently a good

l m a o

>> No.12440773

>>12440742
I'm not going to respond to your racist post.

>>12440741
Institutional white privilege makes it harder for POC authors to get published and get awards. So affirmative action fixes this. So it cancels itself out.

> Are you actually condoning white guilt?
White guilt is warranted. White people have oppressed POC throughout history and that has of course also affected the dependents of those POC (and POC are of course still oppressed in the west). So affirmative action for that oppression is just to compensate POC. It's not an act of violence. It's an act of justice.

>> No.12440786

>>12440770
Hey, I'm more than willing to give up the ill gotten gains of my ancestors if all the niggers are willing to go back to living in mud huts in the African bush.

>> No.12440789

>>12440773
>dependents
*descendants

I'm used to typing on my Israeli keyboard so there are some typos.

>> No.12440793

>>12440773
> POC authors
There's no such thing as a non-colored person. And it's actually easier for non-whites to be published nowadays. Nigger stuff just sucks major dick. It's not harder because they're niggers, it's harder because they suck at literature.

>> No.12440799

>>12440786
Modern civilization is unsustainable anyways so that's what is gonna happen regardless. Everyone is going back to the mudhut. And that's a good thing

>> No.12440801

>>12440773
>White guilt is warranted. White people have oppressed POC throughout history and that has of course also affected the dependents of those POC (and POC are of course still oppressed in the west). So affirmative action for that oppression is just to compensate POC. It's not an act of violence. It's an act of justice.
Seriously consider suicide if you think this.

>> No.12440803

>>12440773
>throughout history
Blacks oppressed themselves far longer than whites did. Or do you think white people invented slavery?

>> No.12440808

>>12440793
>And it's actually easier for non-whites to be published nowadays
No it's not. POC authors have to get though obstacles that white authors don't have to deal with before they ever have to worry about whether or not they'll get published. You're racist because you're intimidated by powerful POC.

>> No.12440812

>>12440773
Then why didn't they need affirmative action to get into and eventually be over represented in some sports? I guess because that's something niggers actually do well. Unlike anything involving literature

>> No.12440830

>>12438711
has anyone even read one page of this book? or is this going to continue being a meme thread?

it's actually pretty good, as good (and better) than anything else published in the field those years

>> No.12440833

>>12440808
Obstacles like becoming literate and using proper English.

>> No.12440835

>>12440830
What's so good about it?

>> No.12440837

>>12440808
>POC authors have to get though obstacles that white authors don't have to deal with before they ever have to worry about whether or not they'll get published.
I'm what you'd call a "POC", you colossal faggot. And frankly "POC" is a rather retarded term to refer to non-whites. Literally segregation era tier. Or worse. Also nigger literature is terrible, not because it's done by niggers but because it sucks. It blows. It's subpar. By niggers I'm referring to Black Americans, make no mistake. Also, I'm not racist, I just tell it like it is, sorry if that hurts your little SJW ego.

>> No.12440855

>>12440837
I'm 1/2 Sub sub-Saharan African and 1/2 Ashkenazi, so I have more authority to speak about this than you have.

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>>12440855

>> No.12440864

>>12440835
it's a sort of a post-apocalyptic story featuring an oppressed race of people who can control the earth's energy; examining many current day issues (climate change, racism, sexual identity) in a sci-fantasy setting

while the racial metaphor is quite heavy handed, stylistically it departs from sff-mould being narrated in second person with a neat twist incorporating that into the end of the first book. it certainly isn't a masterpiece, then again nothing else in the years it won hugos was, so it completely deserved the award if anything for being atleast slightly original

>> No.12440877

>>12440864
>story featuring an oppressed race of people who can control the earth's energy; examining many current day issues (climate change, racism, sexual identity) in a sci-fantasy setting
That doesn't sound original at all.

>> No.12440880

>>12440855
I don't give a fuck about your genes. I'm not white and thank God and His holy Grace I'm not a nigger, but I have as much authority to talk about this as you have. Culture belongs to everyone and literature is up to debate and discussion. And nigger literature is terrible and doesn't deserve the acclaim it gets. I blame Hollywood.

>> No.12440886

>>12440864
Pfff. The copy of the copy of the knock off of the plagiarized story. Funny that when niggers do it it's seen as wonderful. Like when a kid begins to write.

>> No.12440889

>>12440793
I mean, when your ancestors literally had no written language for thousands of years while other developed nations around the world did for many millenia, what can you do?

>> No.12440892

>>12440762
>Underage beta lobster

>> No.12440899

>>12440877
it is more original than most anything published in long-form sff, it's also much more literary: almost no sff author writes in anything other than a bland third-person limited style

>>12440886
if she is so bad, then sff as a whole is a diarrhea dump

>> No.12440906

>>12440889
>Imagine criticising a piece of sci-fi you never read because you are a failure at living.

>Profit

>> No.12440915

>>12440899
>sff as a whole is a diarrhea dump
true

>> No.12440950

>>12440915
What is your take on scared manchild loosing their shit because the best novel of SFF that year was written by a black chick?

>> No.12440963

>>12440915
That is worst then any ssf for sure, ain't it m8?

>> No.12440969

>>12440950
what is your take on human scrab beetles swarming over this half formed turd of a novel as a way of owning the nazis?

>> No.12440983

>>12440969
My take is that novel was /lit/ and you should fuck off to pol because you are a subhuman.

>> No.12441014

>>12439149
>bradbury

Read his short stories rather than just Fahrenheit 451. Even Borges liked The Martian Chronicles

>> No.12441021

>>12441014
You're assuming I have not read Bradbury's works in full.

>> No.12441034

>>12441021
If you have and you still think he's shit then you have no ear for prose.

>> No.12441036

>>12440485
No, he's not making a point and is interpreting the thing that is very obviously going on (giving brown people arbitrary trophies so that brown people can feign substantive talent) in the way that the Hugo Award givers fully intend it to be interpreted by NPCs (that recognizing this fact just means that you are "afraid" of ever-talented brown people, and are in fact just jealous).

>> No.12441055

>>12440481
>inb4 bashing them for no reason

This goes both ways because literature is completely subjective. You can just look up any black authors of fantasy, claim that they're good, and then counter that any perceived deficiencies in their material is for "no reason", when in fact you picked these people out for no reason other than to buffer an unfalsifiable argument, unfalsifiable because there is not quantitative and universal measure of talent in literature.

>> No.12441078

>>12440864
>If anything for being atleast slightly original

The concepts of climate change, racism, and sexual identity in literature are unoriginal, the main social analogy of the series is based on an immoral anti-white slander (that the squalor of blacks in the United States is not mostly because of their own decisions), and three books in the series have consecutively won, further discrediting the theory that originality contributed literally at all to the consideration of why she was given the award.

>> No.12441106

>>12441055
This post is confusing. You admit that Literature is subjective but you castigate that anon for glossing over 'deficiencies'?

>> No.12441128

>>12441036
>Réeeeęéeeëeeeeē
Yeah kid keep telling yourself that she won multiple Hugo because she was black/woman/reptilian/Jew/she/Antigua .
Cry me a River.
>I am not really an asshole, I just suck as a human being.

>> No.12441191

>>12441128
>being critical makes you a bad human being

>> No.12441282

>>12441191
>Being critical .........
Try # prejudiced
>Bad human
Nope, you just suck at it.

>> No.12441470

>>12440983
I thought subhumans were blacks

>> No.12441481

>>12441282
Everyone’s predjidiced

>> No.12441521

>>12441055
This guy (>>12440454) said
>The Hugo's have been kiked for years.
What about black authors who won the Hugo almost 60 years ago?
Was it kiked back then as well?

>>12441014
>Bradbury
>good
yikes.

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>>12440983
>>12440642
>My take is that novel was /lit/
based trannys

>> No.12441567

>>12441521
No black author won the Hugo for best novel before this gorilla

>> No.12441571

>>12440392
>>12440762
these

>> No.12441856

bump. great book.

>> No.12442089

tfw some entry-level bait gets tons of replies

this place is gone

>> No.12442326

Christ, white people are pathetic

Minority-majority cannot come fast enough