/lit/ - Literature

>>12426565
It's the least pynchon-y of the pynchons but it's still worth a read.

read the crying of lot 49

Decent beginner Pynchon.
Read V. and/or Crying of Lot 49 afterwards.

It was my first Pyncher, you'll like it probably. Just keep in mind that the conspiracy isn't going to make 100% sense. This is on purpose.

Start with the Greeks

>>12426565
Book bad

>entertainment of a ***high*** order

lmao!!!

Is that hotline miami?

>>12426565
Yeah, it's a great first Pynchon and underrated.

>>12427083
It makes sense if you apply yourself.

just watch the movie

Inherent Vice is good, but Crying of Lot 49 is the better Pynchon and the better starter.

>>12427083
none of the conspiracys he writes about ever makes sense

>>12426565
the movie was fucking terrible. i tried so hard to watch but kept falling asleep or losing interest.

>>12426581
I read that first and I still dont know what the fuck it was about. Dont think I'll ever pick up another pynch book he's just a horny stroke-poster.

Also, ending the book with
>it truly was the crying of lot 49

In my country
-Crying 49
-Vineland
-Slowleaner
-V(80's pirate version which isn't available now)
-Rainbow's Gravity(Failed translation by new and ambitious amatuer publisher, after few weeks publisher made them out of print and abandoned any more attempt to save it)
has been translated, but not OP pic. Should I read it in english?

>>12430185
>I read that first and I still dont know what the fuck it was about.
The book is about reading the book and figuring out what it's about.

>>12430179
list your top five favorite movies of the past decade

>>12426565
You'll probably like it. The characters are interesting, and Pynchon's always great at creating a mystery.

Going into the book, know only that entropy is a common theme of his: don't look for the arcs to converge. Often the initial question's resolution at the end will leave twenty more nagging ones behind.

As a first-go with Pynchon, you can't pick better (imo) because of its brevity. If the style or themes or anything else puts you off, then you've saved yourself the mental troubles of tackling something like V. or Gravity's Rainbow.

>>12427834
just because the high-art low-art barrier was melted away in the last 100 years doesn't mean that we don't get to make approximating value judgements you stupid nigger.

>>12430520

>>12426565
it was my first by him and I found it very enjoyable

>>12430269
>being this insecure when someone calls out your favourite film
It’s really not that amazing desu, definitely one of PTA’s weaker films. I get the choice to keep it narratively hazy and disorientating, but that doesn’t change the fact that there isn’t much progression to speak of. Big Lebowski did that whole “ambling hallucinogenic comedown” vibe so much better

>>12430558
have you read the book?

>>12428631
t.IG Farben

no start with fchking LOT 49

START WITH LOT 49

>>12427083
>Just keep in mind that the conspiracy isn't going to make 100% sense. This is on purpose.
>21st century criticism

>>12430772
lot 49 is trash pynchon said it himself

yes, it's a good book

>>12430779
Is that statement incorrect?

>>12430940
Pynchon has terrible taste.

>>12430940
Untrue. Get the quote.

>>12431020
No. The Golden Fang. The US government. Woah!!!

>>12431283
>As is clear from the up-and-down shape of my learning curve, however, it was too much to expect that I'd keep on for long in this positive or professional direction. The next story I wrote was "The Crying of Lot 49," which was marketed as a "novel," and in which I seem to have forgotten most of what I thought I'd learned up till then.

>>12426565
Yes, IV is the best place to start. It's easily his easiest book. Lot49 is a lot shorter so it may be more appealing as a starting place for Pynchon but it can be hard to follow at times.

>>12431315
>it can be hard to follow at times.
It all comes together in the end. (Except it doesn't).

>>12428631
Haven't read the book, but it makes sense in the movie.

>>12430558
Try watching it more than once

>>12430940
Trash by his standards is still a great book overall. Because it's so short and referenced in GR it's a great book to get accustomed to his style.

Beware of the Golden Fang

>. . . yet there is no avoiding time, the sea of time, the sea of memory and forgetfulness, the years of promise, gone and unrecoverable, of the land almost allowed to claim its better destiny, only to the claim jumped by evildoers known all too well, and taken instead and held hostage to the future we must live in now forever.

>>12432995
fucking drumpf!!!

>>12433166
Nixon actually, do keep up.

>>12433194
that's what I said...

>>12430194
romania??

>>12432995
>'pynchon-lite'
Philistine dweebs

Is this a good starter? Its more modern so my dumbass mind can get the references.

>>12433426
korea desu

>>12434606
It's not as good as his other ones but if it's the one you feel like reading and pic related doesn't change your mind I say go for it. On a sentence-by-sentence level it's a lot easier to read than GR.

>>12434695
Wow fuck thats lame, my library only has BE, ATD, and GR, should i just bit the bullet on GR or start with ATD?

>>12434727
Personally I'd say GR because I found AtD kinda boring by the end .

>>12434727
>Wow fuck thats lame
I think that's the point

>>12434695
Pynchon, one of the most revered authors of the 20th century, sitting around watching anime and playing video games in his 80s is a weird thought.
Can't imagine McCarthy sitting down by a computer and watching all of Cardcaptor Sakura in one sitting but I guess Pinecone would.

>>12434790
His son was born in 91.

>>12434798
You know, that does explain it.
Now imagining Pynchon intruding on his son's room and asking "Are ya winning?" with a shit eating dad grin.

>>12434815
Indeed.

>>12430520
It's a weed joke you retard

>>12434612
You mean pic related one isn't good? Not like I know any Korean; I was just thinking on starting a Gravity's Rainbow translations collection and somehow the idea of having bad translations kills my fantasy.

>>12430721
kek

>>12435688
Yes. This failed so hard :(
At least we've got the world's only and first decent Ulysses translation by the professor who devoted his entire life to it :D

>>12428631
>>>>>>>>>>>>>