/lit/ - Literature

Venus in Furs
Now fuck off

>>12409312
most of what tanizaki wrote

Ulysses, for the last time, Leopold has a domina mommy mistress and is also a kind of servant to his unfaithful wife

bump

I'd also like to know this, post femdom passages please

. . .

My would be novel to be honest

>>12409312
finity, by John Barnes

>>12409312
Valerie Solanis, the SCUM manifesto

at least i don't think it's erotica. she'd probably be pissed to learn someone did.

The thing about femdom is that dominant females don't really exist. Deep down every woman wants to be manhandled by a father-figure caveman. They don't take sexual pleasure from humiliating men; seeing a weak little man crawling around on all fours makes their pussy dry up

>>12413083
no dont say this pls, i dont want to be a spineless slave, only a submissive boy to a Mommy GF and i'm sure there are women out there who desire that dynamic. i've read of girls online who do like that, and want to be motherly to a good boy

>>12413083
That's the whole point dumbass

>>12413083
I've heard there's statistics about homosexuals being more submissive than heterosexuals generally. Simplified submissive men are repressed homosexuals or have non-hetero tendencies. (In many cases) I also wonder if submissiveness is related to childhood trauma or low self-esteem.

>>12413195
this is such bs, i just love motherly, dominating femininity instead of the 18-year-old, babygirl, submissive femininity that most men like. young girls, in age and character, just arent attractive to me. but girls my age, who are dominantly loving and suffocate me with care, that's what I love.

>>12413218
i could have summed this by saying that while many men like the submissive femininity, wherein she calls him "daddy", i like the dominant femininity wherein i call her "mommy"

1982, Janine is your spice

>>12413083

Pretty much.

>>12413233
Checked, based and mommypilled

>>12413503
no

Naomi

>>12413901
Doesn't this book have cuckoldry?

I'd rather read a wholesome romance with a dominant female honestly.

I hear this is a classic of the genre. Get the Oxford University Press edition if possible with an introduction by Nick Land

>>12413083
This is the hardest redpill to swallow as a submissive guy. At least homos get a pool, albeit a much smaller one, of potential dating partners. All that submissive guys have are paid whores who secretly despise you, or fat insecure women who have found their niche within the femdom scene because it allows them to find a mate, even if it doesn't do much for them sexually.

>>12414838
You’ve got to go for an older woman

>>12414846
I suppose they'd probably enjoy the experienced vs inexperienced dynamic (and so would I) and that would be a surrogate for a domme, but ultimately it would be doomed to fail because those sorts of things are only ever intended to be flings, never to last. I don't think I'd ever fall in love properly with an older woman.

>>12413195
>Simplified submissive men are repressed homosexuals
> (In many cases) I also wonder if submissiveness is related to childhood trauma or low self-esteem.
can confirm

wait no

Literature is legitimately terrible for femdom, write your own porn.

>>12413931
Then you won't like the latter part of Venus in Furs

>>12414838
Please don't say these things, anon. I'm submissive to the core of my very soul, and believe that there are many more dominant, Mommy women out there today, but that our societal propaganda of "man must be manly, women must be girly" has indoctrinated them out from their true desires to dominate. Either way, I will never change what I am inside unless it changes by itself. But I have rightful reason to believe that there are indeed Mommy's out there, judging from 4chanonettes alone, who comment saying they'd like to take care of a sweet boy, and also the rest of the internet where similar remarks are found. Breastfeeding among heterosexual couples is definitely a thing, and something which I think is only becoming more popular within relationships.

>>12414906
>true desires to dominate

You're deluded if you think this is true. It's overwhelmingly clear that the majority of women are sexually submissive, an even higher proportion than the amount of men who are sexually dominant. Weirdo freakos like us must either conform and pretend to enjoy being dominant or live a life of solitude and cuckoldry - that was the key message in Venus in Furs.

>>12414906
>, judging from 4chanonettes alone, who comment saying they'd like to take care of a sweet boy,

Bro those are just old men. I make posts like that all the time on /int/.

>>12414906
You'll be fine anon. Just find a girl you like, and let her mommy you overtime.
>>12414941
There's tons of domes for men like us out there. They just don't openly advertise their dominant nature. Focus on character building and finding a good girl, and the rest will naturally follow.

>>12414941
>>12414944
No, please...you don't know how crushed I'll be if this were really true...girls do like to take care of men, for young and immature girls it's the macho men who mistreat them, but for emotionally mature ones it is the sweet, shy, submissive guys who they know will love them to the moon and always take care of them and respect them like no other man will. That's exactly what I'd do - my girl would be my world, I'd love her so forcefully she'll never feel inferior as a woman again, she'll be so showered in love that all her female problems will fade and she'll see that loving a boyish boy, not a manly man (who are typically the woman-abusers of the world), was what she sought most above all. She will also have her maternal instinct triggered by the sight of my submissive self, and love to take care of me in a Mommy-manner.

I can't ever "become" dominant. This is all I have to offer. If it's not good enough, then I'm romantically destitute. If I can't have this, a dominant lady, I don't even want to live, let alone pursue love. I haven't read Venus in Furs, but my gosh, what an absolutely tragic novel it is, if it speaks on this subject and concludes what you have said it to. This isn't right - there's no reason men should be dominant, and women submissive - there's no reason at all, dominance and submissiveness are of neither gender in nature, both having unique forms to themselves when expressed by each sex.

Why should reality be set so cruelly, wherein men who love and desire nothing more than the dominant brand of femininity, can never experience it? And are expected to caricature a monolithic model of a man, in order to be loved by another? This is not fair, at all. Please. It can't be true, and I think our world only makes it seem like the binary above is the only scenario for reality to be like.

Amerika by Kafka has a relevant scene where Karl wrestles with a girl.

>>12414906
stop posting this image, people like this don't exist and it's painful to hope they do

>>12415165
hey friend can i ask a question

are you physically weak? i dont mean to be rude by asking that but i used to be into gemdom and gfd when i didnt work out and now i feel much more comfortable and less vulnerable and it made me likes gfd and femdom way less

>>12415165
>my girl would be my world, I'd love her so forcefully she'll never feel inferior as a woman again, she'll be so showered in love that all her female problems will fade

>>12413083
Women will like being dominant if they adore you and you say you like it when women act that way, you will end up having regular sex, but they love being what you want, so really, love will cover you in every part

>>12413083
You've been listening to too much Nick the spic fuentes my dude. The fact of the matter is what you described is most girls, but not all by any means. Some girls like variety and different dynamics. They might want to be "fucked by daddy" one day, and make you beg for it the next. They might want to do all the work one day, and lay there like a dead fish the next.

a lot of dude bros don't have the cognitive capabilities to imagine sex any other way than just "IM GUNNA WRECK IT" so that's just what most women settle for.

>>12415496
Yeah, theres women who like making men cum like women that'll peg you

>>12415233
We have to hope, anon. Else what's the point of us existing, if we're to be loveless our whole lives?

>>12415263
I'm of decent build, but don't work out, so yes I'm physically not strong. But no, my submissiveness is from my soul, not my body. Even if I got jacked, I'd still desire a Mommy GF.

>>12415392
Are you making fun of me? You don't know a thing about what it's like for us submissive men, so please don't make our lives even more upsetting.

>>12409312
Are there seriously no books of this kind, at all? Of Mommy-girlfriends and submissive boys, like a shotacon except without erotic content, and also boys a bit older in age? No books about caring babysitters taking care of boyish adolescents, or anything at all like this? Literally no clean femdom books in all of existence?

>>12415690
I don't know what the point of existing is, so far I have not found love and to be honest I don't believe it exists.
What keeps me up at night is that I might never live up to my own expectations, not love.
I've never felt unobligated love from anyone outside of my family.

>>12415769
>I dont believe in love
>My family unironically loves me

>>12415690
Seriously anon, you need to stop beating yourself up. I'm speaking to you as one sub male to another here.

We both love women, and we both want one to sweep us off our feet and take charge of us, but that isn't going to happen by just angsting over how you haven't found one yet. Go out and enjoy life and if you meet the right girl things will click and you can take it from there. I understand that finding your mommy is your goal, but you need to occupy yourself with another goal and another for, of happiness in the meantime. Women don't like a man without his head together, regardless of if they're a domme or not.

I say this because I've seen your posts over the last few days have become pessimistic lately, when they started out with so much optimism and praise for the gender we love.

You're making me genuinely worried about you anon-- I don't like seeing a fellow women lover suffer.

>>12415710
The best stories of this kind I've seen have all been greentexts and fics.

I have often seen people grouped like that on the common outside our gates on Bank holidays. Most often the man has a handkerchief over his face to shade him from the sun, and the woman squats beside him and peers through the undergrowth to see that the children come to no harm as they play. It has sometimes seemed to me that there was a significance about it. You know when one goes into the damp, odorous coolness of a church in a Catholic country and sees the kneeling worshipers, their bodies bent stiffly and reluctantly, and yet with abandonment as though to represent the inevitable bending of the will to a purpose outside the individual person, or when under any sky one sees a mother with her child in her arms, something turns in one's heart like a sword, and one says to oneself, "If humanity forgets these attitudes there is an end to the world." But people like me, who are not artists, are never sure about people they don't know. So it was not until now, when it happened to my friends, when it was my dear Chris and my dear Margaret who sat thus englobed in peace as in a crystal sphere, that I knew it was the most significant, as it was the loveliest, attitude in the world. It means that the woman has gathered the soul of the man into her soul and is keeping it warm in love and peace so that his body can rest quiet for a little time. That is a great thing for a woman to do. I know there are things at least as great for those women whose independent spirits can ride fearlessly and with interest outside the home park of their personal relationships, but independence is not the occupation of most of us. What we desire is greatness such as this, which had given sleep to the beloved.

>>12416301
Wow, such a kind response. I have a hunch you're the same anon I talked to in those xenofeminist threads, who always had eloquent summaries of the state of our culture under patriarchal capitalism, and what it does to each of the sexes. Regardless of who you are, I do appreciate your sincerity here in commenting on my comments, and their pessimistic turn. I will keep myself in better spirits. I'm actually leaving this site either tonight or tomorrow, anon, in relation to getting myself out of this rut I've presently stumbled into. So I may never speak to you again. But I just want to tell you to please take care of yourself, and to pursue what is true to your soul. Like me, you love women more than anything else in the world, or at the least you love them dearly, and desire desperately to submit yourself to one. Don't give up on this, and for as long as you have the natural fantasy for it, stay true in pursuing it. Take care dude, I love you. I hope your dreams come true, friend, at least one of us should see our fantasies come to fruition, and I sincerely hope it's you.

>>12417085
You figured out exactly who I am. Take care out there, anon. I hope we can both find our happiness. Just know that whatever you're doing, you'll always have a friend in me here if you need one.

I love you too, my man, and I'll miss you.

>>12409312
nigger you gay