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please

>> No.12380933

>>12380929
Beowulf

>> No.12380943
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Djingis Khan series by Conn Iggulden. I have read the first book. Am currently at the second one

>> No.12380963

>>12380929
old man and the sea

>> No.12380991

>>12380933
Beowulf is medieval fantasy show wrestling written in poem form, or that is the image I got after reading it.

>> No.12381006

>>12380929
The Holy Bible

>> No.12381194

The Way of Men

>> No.12381206

Nice spooks.

>> No.12381472
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>>12381206

>> No.12381474

>>12380929
My Twisted World

>> No.12381525

>>12380929
Plutarch’s Parallel Lives, Homeric Poems, Aeneid, The Epic of Gilgamesh, Storm of Steel, Sun and Steel, The Prince, Divine Comedy, King Lear and Macbeth, Oedipus Rex+Antigone, Blood Meridian, Arthurian Cycle, Mythological Cycle of the Irish, Vedas (not the Upanishads), OT, The History of the Mongol Conquests, Thucydides Peloponnesian War, Herodotus Histories, Hesiod’s Theogony

That should be good for a while. You’ll branch out naturally from wherever you start, wikipedia is unironically your friend especially the reference links and libgen paired with them.

There is a /his/ mega dump you can find on the archive somewhere in the last few months for books on Rome and Greece, Central Asia, Byzantium, the Middle East, Medieval period, East Asia, Americas etc.

Economics, history, mathematics, politics, poetry, philosophy are really the interests of a mature male intellect more than literature though.

>> No.12381552

>>12380929
You only need a single book anon.
And you know which one

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>>12381525
>Economics, history, mathematics, politics, poetry, philosophy are really the interests of a mature male intellect more than literature though.

AHEM anon I think you'll find them all in accordance with the massaging of the masculine mind
Literature being a necessary retreat and relaxation for it

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Anyone else having problems with pic related? I think Limonov (whether or not share his political leanings) is an interesting character who fits very well for a literary biography, but Carrere is such a shallow author for this.. His writing is nothing special, his prose always has this half-ironic detached tone as if he was just another snob frenchman to the core but was trying to hide it as much as he can. Moreover, anyone else has the impression that he's trying to make Limonov look good despite everything? I feel that at the end of the day the whole book is just a giant attempt by Carrere to drive Limonov back into the comfort zone of a rich, borgeouise, well-educated, leftwing frenchman rather than actually engaging with the eerie aspects of the character. It's as if he has to justify the ugliness of Limonov by constantly reminding us of Limonov's "loser resentment". For instance, when Limonov rejoices the death of of a leukemic rich kid, Carrere writes that of course we should think Limonov was an asshole for that, but that he also believes he would have helped the kid first if there was a way to save him. Why? Can't it be that Limonov really is just an asshole? Why does he has to be justified in being one because he had a certain childhood? Or rather, could he be completely conscious that his past had made him resentful and hateful and just be ok with it?
Or again, the passage about Limonov shooting a machine gun on Sarajevo. Why the fuck is Carrere so concerned on whether Limonov actually killed someone or not? Who cares? Why can't Limonov just be an evil, hateful war lover who has chosen to be like this? Why can't Carrere read in what justifies being the kind of person Limonov probably is rather than trying to justify him at all costs? I love every anecdote about the life of Limonov but all of Carrere comments feel so disconnected and so desperate to drive him back into the good guys and normalize him, as if you either are good, well-read, and essentially unconsciouly leftwing or you are a bad guy. He's not engaging with the possibility of a truly different psychology and has to justify it with the cheap "muh hard childhood" device. I feel like Carrere is an inward coward and a fundamentalist masked as a reasonable person.
What do you guys think? Have you read the book? I had similar feelings while reading his PKD biography, but it got way clearer once he took on a seriously controversial character. I feel like he's really trying to drag into mediocrity and normalize people who are out of his reach in term of psychological complexity.

>> No.12381986

>>12381969

aaaah sorry wanted to open a thread and I posted in the reply instead. Don't mind me

>> No.12382098

the way of superior man and stormlight archive series. Also legend by gemmell.

>> No.12382139

>>12380929
manhood is unironically a huge larp.
Just do what you want in life and try not to be such a sperg about it public.

>> No.12382172

>>12380929
The Bible is sissy shit. Read The Quran instead

>> No.12382212

>>12380929
Stoner by John Williams, the Complete Works of Tolstoy, the wisdom books of the Bible (Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs), Complete works of Hemingway.

>> No.12382299

>>12380929
Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa and Legend by David Gemmell

>> No.12383523
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The Epic of Gilgamesh
Homer
Icelandic sagas
The Sunjata Saga
The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle

>>12380991
The entire story is comprised of monster slaying, battles, and mead-drinking. What's your complaint?

>> No.12383541

>>12380929
If nonfiction qualifies, something by Maurice Godelier

>> No.12383647

>>12380929
plutarchs lifes
plutarchs moralia
anything on virtue ethics
any epics (illiad, aeneid, gita, sagas, beowulf, arthurian, etc)
schopenhaur
nietzsche

>> No.12383748

>>12380929
12 rules for life

>> No.12384239

Read some mountaineering books. Probably start with Into Thin Air or Eiger Dreams.

>> No.12384449

>>12383523
>What's your complaint?
Got no complaints, Beowulf is great.

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>>12380929
Men don't think, they reflect. You really need to get a good chin scratch going with these books.

>> No.12385831

>>12380929
the ego and its own

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>>12383748
This summons the Lobster King

>> No.12386005

>>12381525
What about Oedipus at Colonus?

>> No.12386045

>>12381206
What's spooky is obsessing over the spookiness of words, limiting yourself to inaction as others stride forth into action due to accepting the convenience of language.

>> No.12386635

Gay porn depicts balls quite well

>> No.12386755

>>12380929
Meditations then watch Alex Jones rants on YT

>> No.12387147

>>12382212
>Stoner
>Literally the story of a man so pathetic his only achievement in life was a unknown academic book
I see Stoner as the guide of what not to follow if you want to be in charge of your destiny. Stoner is the epitome of the mediocre man.

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>>12387147
be an overman then

>> No.12387965

bump

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Thinking about my PhD guys.

It's in philosophy. I'll explain; in the classical tradition revenge as an action was taken as a given response to injustice, individuals who didn't partake in revenge were considered kind of ill or perhaps weak/ a pussy.

That all changed after the Christian revolution on western philosophical thought (particularly moral though). Christianity asserts that forgiveness is the primary virtue. In fact Christianity is quite peculiar in that in not only refuses to retaliate against evils but invites more (turn the other cheek).

Many of the virtues that christianity is responsible for positing have been scrutinised at some length throughout modern philosophy, save for forgiveness and revenge,

I wish to investigate the conditions under which forgiveness and revenge are appropriate responses, and ultimately argue for the Greek conception.

i have several arguments to make - an example of one is the following.

A society which promotes/justifies revenge is one in which the cost of defecting/causing harm is much higher. So you are less likely to perform such actions in the first place etc..


What do you think anons? could it be a good piece for a PhD?

>> No.12388041

>>12388029
I don’t think you’re intelligent enough or well versed enough in Greek history or Evolutionary and Behavioral Biology to contribute to our knowledge with this thesis but by all means go ahead, it is an interesting subject.

Your tone and the image you chose made me want to hurt you badly.

>> No.12389328

>>12380929
The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber by Hemingway
Just when you'll become a man, a woman will be there to fuck it all up. Enjoy the read, it's very short.

>> No.12389388

>>12384449
No it isn't. It's garbage.