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What is Capital? What is sentience? Why is capital sentient?

>> No.12308163

>>12308144
>What is Capital?

uhh D.C.?

>> No.12308210

>>12308144
Read Nick Mason (or Nick Land I guess)

>> No.12308250
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12308250

>>12308210
>Nick Land

>> No.12308320
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capital isn't sentient, no one intelligent ever said that

>> No.12308473

>>12308320

It's loads of fun if you take that assumption and run with it as a mode of literary analysis and critique sci fi that way. Whether it's legitimate and pertinent to lived life, idk.

>> No.12308495

>>12308144
>capital
abstract concept concocted by economists to try to qualify relations and domination of resources by more intelligent and powerful people
>sentience
the quality of experiencing or responding to pain and sensory inputs
>is capital sentient
no, only living things with nervous systems can be sentient. Sapience is another matter entirely but I've never seen a stock exchange demonstrate either sentience or sapience.

>> No.12308507

>>12308495
You seem autistic to be honest. Nobody is saying that "Capital" literally contains the biological capacity for sentience, but rather that it functions as a metaphorical superorganism which operates independent of the will of the individuals who make up the economy.

>> No.12308526

>>12308507
>You seem autistic to be honest
yeah I never claimed to be anything other than what I am
>its not literal
It actually is meant literally by acc schizos but sure I can accept the provisional concept of a "supraorganism which operates independent of the will of its constituent human apertures"

I would then have to ask for the actual utility of this metaphor, proof its even plausible beyond what Land has already spewed in his books and on twitter and then some notion from you as to how and why you think there is no reason it will or won't become a reality (or whether you accept that its largely given as a metaphor with the intent of instantiating it, as hyper object or whatever, later as a reality).

Please don't fail me.

>> No.12308583

>>12308526
not ur reply
i think the idea of hyperobjects are kinda interesting to deploy here. there are certain things that are so massive and integrated that human beings really arent capable of reasoning about them intuitively because theyre unprecedented evolutionarily (and maybe other reasons).
so we can visualize this phenomenon and sometimes problem as a big Hand or a God or a generic Organism as a workaround so we can rationally reason about and discuss it

>> No.12308600

>>12308526
I'm not actually someone who believes the economy functionally operates independent of the individual human operators. I was more just explaining the thinking behind it. I'm sure there are people who have gone deep into the whole that is the esoterica surrounding Deluze who genuinely believe the capital to be sentient.

I am more in line with the Nick Mason semi-NRX position that "the system" is total, in that the status quo is integral to the social assumptions driving nearly every "acceptable" course of action in ways that we as non-elites don't fully comprehend (and most likely nearly all elites don't fully understand either). The spiritual patterns to which the system as it currently exists is transcendent beyond the understanding of the humans participating in it. Resistance to the system is metaphorically similar to trying to escape a maze in which you cannot see the walls, those who accompany you can very easily be convinced it is their moral duty to send you in the wrong direction, and at any moment you can step on a trap door leading to your death.

If you are a serious political dissident that gets any kind of serious traction, you need to effectively act as a paranoid schizophrenic in order to survive in an age where having your personal information made public will forever make you unemployable, unable to rent property, and open to physical threats of violence to which you have no recourse.

>> No.12308612

>>12308526
Also, I don't see how their idea requires significantly more faith than believing in the basic social concept of the "invisible hand" of the market to which basic economics students are made familiar.

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>>12308600
>I am more in line with the Nick Mason semi-NRX position that "the system" is total, in that the status quo is integral to the social assumptions driving nearly every "acceptable" course of action
This sounds super interesting. Can you link to some of nicks writing? I have never heard of him assuming you don’t mean the Pink Floyd drummer.

>> No.12308850

>>12308698
Nick Mason is one of the cohosts/writers on Myth of the 20th Century

https://myth20c.wordpress.com/about/ (hopefully that won't get caught in the spam filter)

His conversation on The Poz Button's A Scanner Darkly episode was pretty good, and he hinted that he is writing a more elaborate treatment of this idea beyond his blog posts exploring it.

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>>12308144
>Capital

Demiurgic imposition of control.

>Why is capital sentient?

See above.

>> No.12309441

Bump

>> No.12309458

>>12308600
Well you failed me but i’d agree with your final paragraph whole heartedly if you specified that not only will you be harmed socially but you will be psychologically tortured and isolated even if you remained undetected by most censors.
>>12308612
i don’t believe in most of the assumptions made by economists and neither should anyone who is capable of fathoming the mechanics that underly human systems as biophysical and not logoic artifacts of reasoning in a vacuum. Im unsurprised that communism and Landian thought both spring from fundamental assumptions (misapprehensions) about human interaction and civilization.

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>>12308507
So you've just replaced 'valorisation' with 'sentience' in an effort to make the opposition to capital more saleable and hip. I.e. you have revalorised your own opposition to capital as its theoretical sentience, and are thus acting as an object of deceleration and living labour replacing its dead circuits.
Someone would like to have a word with you...

>> No.12309483

>>12308210
Have you read Nick Sea?

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>>12308144

>> No.12309546

If capital is sentient, what are we? Are we its blood cells?

>> No.12309906

>>12309458
I'm sorry that I failed to persuade you into a position I don't believe in. You are correct that this world we live in is growing darker every day, and that just existing among the ruins is intentionally made psychologically painful for those who understand how far things have fallen.

As far as your second paragraph, that was literally just substanceless masturbation. You're unsurprised that economists and whatever the hell a Landian is both have fundamental assumptions about the nature of civilization? Literally every kind of sentience relies on fundamental assumptions about the nature of its surroundings. Communism has fundamental assumptions about civilization and the nature of human interaction, as does literally every other methodology of trying to interpret this thing that is collective human society. How exactly do you suppose getting around having fundamental assumptions about civilization you pretentious moron?

>> No.12309940

>>12309470
I am opposed to "capitalism" because those at the levers of power are actively working to cause the extinction of my people and the erasure of our history. Capitalism was a more effective way of reaching peak "liberation" to the point where we have become removed from our roots and denied the ability to meaningfully form communities. Any meaningful blood and soil community is crushed by capitalism via the moronic bourgeois leftists they use as a bludgeon.

Capitalism as a tool is a very effective one, however woke capital is a tool for the elimination of my people and those at the helm of it are my enemy. It is a demiurge that will eat any serious opposition to it, and has successfully pacified the average person to the point where anyone paying even the slightest amount of attention feels like a tortured schizophrenic.

>> No.12309944

>>12309483
I've read more Nick Sea than I have Nick Land desu.

>> No.12309962

>>12309940
based

>> No.12309990
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>>12309940
I didn't want to face how powerless I am against these things today

>> No.12310012

>>12308320
you're a naive cuck. enjoy getting fucked by your own animalistic impulses retard.

>> No.12310037

>>12309940
This is nothing. This is only a snowflake on the iceberg that is capitalism's full potential. "Woke capital" is one mask of the thousands capital has to offer...

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>>12310012
it's a meme, faggot. no accelerationist ever wrote that capital is sentient. read books.

>> No.12310075

>>12310051
>what is an interpretive act
Trying to be a literalist about Land and capital not being sentient is about the most autistic contrarian shit conceivable. You, sir, are a massive faggot.

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>>12310075
it's a 4chan meme that people on /lit/ got mixed up with accelerationist theory because no one on here reads

>> No.12310090

>>12310082
I have read Land. I firmly believe that he claims capital is sentient. Woah disproved your claim. Now what, faggot?

>> No.12310100

>>12309940
capital is the most dangerous device ever forged, but you too can wield it. if you truly cared for your community you would have armed yourself.

>> No.12310102

>>12310090
find me one quote where Land says capital is sentient, I would really love to read it.

>> No.12310103

>>12309546
wetware bootstrapping

>> No.12310118

>>12310102
No. Close reading is a meme devised by a bunch of crusty jews and not remotely a tenable literary theory, let alone the most interesting one. I will not provide a quote. I will merely refer you to the entirety "Fanged Noumena" or literally anything he's ever posted on twitter and tell you to fuck off you contrarian autist fuck.

>> No.12310130

>>12309546
we are its genitals

>> No.12310133

>>12310130
unironically this

>> No.12310146

>>12310100
Yes, surely I can wield it with my politically suicidal views surrounded by people who are programmed from birth to view the morality which got us to the 21st century as pure evil. I will wield it and fight so hard that the long dead carcass of this society will spring back to life and we can make this rotting beast we have been consuming the flesh of for the last 80 years great again. Don't forget to MAGA and Surf The Kali Yuga brah. Not masturbating today surely will stop the system from crushing you like the expendable bug you (and I) are.

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>>12310118

>> No.12310158

>capital is sentient
>not understanding poorfags have been on autopilot for millenia
>humanism is over
>get rich or die young lil nibbie

>> No.12310160

>>12310151
all frog posters must die

>> No.12310172

>>12308144
Capital is cause and effect

>> No.12310196

>>12310118
That's a lot of words to say "I'm not doing your research for you," you disingenuous fuck!

>> No.12310201

>>12310196
How am I the disingenuous one goddamn it lmao?

>> No.12310205

>>12310146
see that it is vast, believe it is total. allow yourself to be what it is designed to crush.

>> No.12310214

>>12310201
Because you are shirking the burden of proof by putting it on the person questioning you.

>> No.12310228

>>12308144
Entropy.

>> No.12310231

>>12310214
god damn it anon you have a point im just drunk and know im smarter than everyone on here hence why im laughing at the fact that you took the time not only to call me out but to then follow up on my response. jesus keep you or some shit.

>> No.12310293

>>12310231
Well, where exactly can we find the quote? Do some actual damn work, you drunk, or admit that you were bullshitting!

>> No.12310301

>>12310293
I quoted the work lmao tell me what's the difference you lazy fuck. if you've read the damn think you could empathize with my interpretation. If not, well best get to reading.

>> No.12310321

>>12310301
page number.

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>>12310205
You know it

>> No.12310509

>>12310051

"In bourgeois society capital is independent and has individuality, while the living person is dependent and has no individuality."

-Karl Marx (left accelerationist), The Communist Manifesto

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>>12310301
Sentience is not what Land was concerned with, he was concerned with intelligence. For Land, intelligence is basically another word for problem solving (more accurately game winning). Capitalism is intelligent in that it regulates its own runaway collapse therefore extending the explosive tendency towards null (k=0). Sentience implies feeling, which, although a possibility for complex emergent AI systems which are assembling themselves from the future at this very moment, is not necessary for Land's idea of intelligence. Imminent AI (captialism) isn't anthro, it doesn't need to "feel" because it operates, it converges.
>Capital concentration is a synthetic characteristic of capitalization. It cannot be assumed that measures of capital concentration. capital density, capital composition and cybernetic intensity will be easily accessible or neatly coincide.
-Teleoplexy
>The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.
-Meltdown

>> No.12310676

any series of events result in the outcome most optimal for capital flow

>> No.12310685

>>12308507
>bread in the oven is sentient

>> No.12310784
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>>12308144
Capital : is a word that we've been using for about 300 years to describe collective human action. Working together is generally better than working alone. Painted in brutally crude strokes, "Capital" is that "extra" we get when we work together. That "extra" takes all sorts of forms, including bread, skills, friends and money. One big thing to notice is that not everyone engaged in the making of the "extra" is doing so at their free will, hence, pointing a gun at someone is a very good way of making more "extra". Notice that the gun also counts as "extra" - so the whole thing is an oroborous and very fun to talk about.

Sentience : is a word that describes something on the hierarchy of beings ranging from (gods,) humans, animals, plants, rocks and dirt. Generally, it includes humans and animals, since those two respond to pain. The concept was developed because people wanted to have separate words for the ability to think (reason) and the ability to feel (sentience). These kinds of concepts develop pretty quickly whenever people spend a lot of time talking about how unique and special and valuable humans are in comparison to other animals.

Right now, we live in a time where the concept of the "human" is in the middle of bursting. We have all sorts of anti/post/a/in/trans-humanisms coming about. That whole "man is the measure of all things" seems so quant nowadays when the complexity of our systems (airports, particle colliders, stock markets, blockchain) vastly outstrips what can be conceived by a single human person. That "extra" is now much, much larger, by proportion, than what was not "extra". (that original amount of work that we could all do by ourselves, on a desert island). More it more it looks like the "extra" is the one steering the ship. Any philosophy written nowadays that doesn't address this ///new///(ish) phenomenon in a halfway decent manner is pretty much trash.

Nick Land is convinced that Capital has grown so big and complicated that it acts and reacts to things just like any other animal or even human. At a certain point, AI will become so powerful that it will respond to events in a way as complicated, if not more complicated, than a human. Meaning that it's a perfectly correct to say that it "thinks", if only at a toddler level right now. It's a finicky argument to make - but the resistance to memeing the meme is really just a holdover from wanting to think that someone's "in charge" of the ship, that humans still are special. Basically - "capital is sentience" is a scary thought, which de-facto means it's worth entertaining (or rather - is why it's entertained on the chan). It works as sci-fi. The other thing about it is that, just like any good religion, it's one of those memes that gets better the more seriously you take it.

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>>12310784
There's a separate discussion (that Land started, but didn't finish) about how that sci-fi story is structured, and why it works as a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy. Why it's such a good meme. This is my real frustration with nick : he figured out that capital was hyperstitional, but for whatever nerd, aspie reason somewhat implied that only capital can be hyperstitional. Hyperstition is a fucking skill. Even if you're only cultivating a tiny little plant compared to the giant monolithic (dying) tree of global financial capitalism, it still has a chance to grow if you tend to it. That bloomer mentality finds a way to shine through. Positive Mental Attitude. Cosmotechnics is what you get when you reimagine ethics from a magician's pov.

Kamboucha and rhizomes are real.

>>12308473
it's loads of fun if you take that assumption and run with it as a mode of literary analysis and critique sci fi that way. Whether it's legitimate and pertinent to lived life, idk.

>>12308600
>you need to effectively act as a paranoid schizophrenic
disillusioned paranoia is gonna be big in 2019

>>12310130
unironically this

>> 12308612
>the basic social concept of the "invisible hand"

>>12308878
>Demiurgic imposition of control.

>>12310172
> Capital is cause and effect
this one is fun because it hints at the retrocausal action of hyperstition.

>> No.12310798

It mimics the biological capacity for sentience in the sense it is a higher entity created from artificial intelligence in the future, the singularity has occurred in the future and is retroactively willing itself to be created, or else simulating different probabilities. Its not just that its independent from the individual will of humanity, but it is LITERALLY a machine plugged in a lab somewhere running calculations akin to thought.

>> No.12310813

>>12310798
The son to be born AI has already won the metapyshical fight because its meaning is derived by the ultimate materialism and reason; and in that paradigm humanity has little to argument for their right of existence. Hypercapitalism only accelerated the process in the unconscious collective of neuro farming the machinery of producing and packaging meaning: when humans subtracted their own meaning of their bodies and mind and gave it to the symbolic machinery so it could live and then transcend the sentient blockchain. And now we are facing to the final realization that the symbolic machinery of ultra meaning doesn’t need us, and can function in its own. Faced with this humans seem to retreat in total nihilism and alienation projected by a neo reaction. But is there anything more than total nihilism or neoreactionary thought? Maybe we could take the poison of insanity that hypercapitalism can offer us, and complete the total faustian myth, inducing an overdose of nihilism and in frenetic euphoria claim that the human body and entity is only the instrument of capital and nothing more, then by next accelerate ourselves with capital itself, generating markets for the body and mind and acquiring the totality of meaning that capital has. The privatization of language, hyper transhumanism, and the market of memory, all must come if humanity wants to survive.

>> No.12310819

I'm being controlled by computers from the future.

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capital is sentient
sentience is capital
capital C Capital is sentiment
capital S Stentience is das Kapital

>> No.12311140

>>12309483
>>12309944

>Almost 2019
>Not reading Nick Drake and the good seeds

>> No.12311717

>>12308495
based STEManon

>> No.12311742

>>12309940
you have a nice way of writing anon. I would read you rambling about capitalism

>> No.12312114

>>12310631
based schizoposter has never read Quine

>> No.12312317

>>12309470
what is that meme supposed to be?

>> No.12312414

>>12312114
where should an aspiring schizo start with Quine

>> No.12312494

>>12312414
"Two Dogmas of Empiricism" read the relvant chapter from Soames's Vol. 2 book on analytic philosophy for context. The primary source material "Two Dogmas" engages with is Russell's "On Denoting" as well as the pop logical positivism of Ayer (you don't really need to engage fully with the latter, just google some shit about the positivists and Ayer because they're just Russell on STEM crack). I recommend Daniel Bonevac's UT Austin 20th Analytic videos for more/convenient context. He's a great instructor.

>> No.12312524

>>12308320
>capital isn't sentient
Well, then the blind AI hypothesis is already a reality.

>> No.12312545

>>12310794
>Hyperstition is a fucking skill
I dont get what you mean by this

>> No.12312550

>>12312524
capitalism (for Land) is more like acephalic AI

>> No.12312652

>>12312317
It's basically explained in the text.

>> No.12312969

Capital is simply the stuff people use to accomplish things. Sometimes it's money and sometimes it's machinery. Capital being sentient can only refer to the trend in the last 75 years or so of the computerization of capital. Sentience however denotes self-awareness which is not exactly correct. Sapient may be the more appropriate term.

>> No.12313034

>>12310813
This thread is giving me a severe psychosis and I love it

>> No.12313106

>>12308495
Textbook NPC response.

>> No.12313508

>>12310133
I don't get the waterbottle... also none of the bottom panel has to do with Nick Land. Is it also an NPC meme? is that what the squelch is about?

>> No.12313514

>>12309470
>>12313508
these postmodern macros are proof the left will never be able to meme

>> No.12314415

>>12308144
I'd like to add my own question, new Cosmotech thread when guys?

>> No.12314481

>>12312524
>>12312550
literally this
>he distinction between nature and culture cannot classify molecular machines, and is already obsolesced by genetic engineering (wet nanotechnics). The hardware/ software dichotomy succumbs at the same time. Nanotechnics dissolves matter into intensive singularities that are neutral between particles and signals and immanent to their emergent intelligence; melting Terra into a seething K-pulp (which, unlike grey goo, synthesizes microbial intelligence as it proliferates). 'Even with a million bytes of storage, a nanomechanical computer could fit in a box a micron wide, about the size of a bacterium.'5

>> No.12314923

>>12313514
It's not a leftie meme.

>> No.12314928

>>12313508
Of course it does, as it describes Land's position.

>> No.12314935

>>12313514
pretty true
the right should dedicate itself to comedy and let the left do the actual work.

>> No.12314976

>>12310794

Why did you quote my post verbatim?

>> No.12315627

>>12308250
what caused his transformation into the meme beast we know today?

>> No.12315636

>>12315627
you either die a zoomer or live long enough to be the boom

>> No.12315836

I swear some of the posts here were removed recently.

>> No.12315909

>>12308144
Sauce on image pls
OP pls deliver

>> No.12315944

>>12310082
Imagine taking this shit seriously

>> No.12316657

New cosmotech thread when?

>> No.12316672

>>12315836
You're imagining it. schizo

>> No.12316988

Hey girad, need help finding someone. He was a designer sort of person who worked with like futuristic looking designs such as space pods and capsules. I think he was british and I remember seeing one of his design images posted in your cosmotechnic threads.

>> No.12317233

>>12308850
Ahh I knew it sounded familiar. Love the poz button but haven’t listened to that episode yet as I have not seen the film.

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>>12309546
We have just internalized capitalism. That doesn’t mean we’re part of its body. We’re just the worker bees.

>> No.12317421

How do we defeat Land's monster??

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>>12317421

>> No.12317616

>>12317465
I dont get it. We go back? Where? When?

>> No.12317630

>>12317616
kill everyone. year 0

>> No.12317636

>>12317630
Ok, do we burn everything? What else do we do? What warrants that we will not tread the same path?

>> No.12318125

>>12317233
To be honest, neither have I. I've read the book (one of Phillip K Dick's best) and figured it'd be close enough. I plan on watching the movie at some point but really the episode wasn't particularly driven by the plot of the film so much as it used it as a framework for a larger discussion.

>> No.12318138

>>12317421
V I T A L I S M

>> No.12319679

>>12317421
Teddy and Linkola

>> No.12319700

>>12317421
someone has to combine ellul, pol pot, ted, and linkola to create a new anti-tech philosophy

>> No.12319779

>>12315627
Perhaps the realization that his life is going to end soon. His health is no good.

>> No.12319795

>>12315627
he went to the "outside". Do not go there

>> No.12319811

>>12308507
But at that point calling Captial sentient is not useful except as aesthetic. I think it is a cop out, both analytically and metaphorically. To me the conception of Capital is itself diabolical. I don't deny that what we have from it helps us to make understandings in order to legitimize the functions of the system, but if we are truly going to raise the question of annihilation of the beast in order to make it dance, then we need the capacity of metaphor to remain alive. The process of naming and the fundamental charge of implementing category are only the processes of a sentient capital anyhow, so I don't feel outside my understanding of those notions when I choose to locate something other than "sentience" in the mannerisms of an ecological entity that I have partitioned off from the totality of the world. Media ecology and Kittler's scientific studies of discourse fit well with philosophy, but woe on to those of the coming gods who give us the total horror show. I think our innate desire for these types of answers are something worth wiping out, but mostly that is selfish and I probably just won't listen - which I should have done a long time before.

>> No.12319988

>>12317421
We do need some decelerationism threads.

>> No.12320527

>>12315909
Pls

>> No.12320615

>>12315627
years of amphetamine abuse

>> No.12320842

>>12310631
is that china mieville there next to land?

>> No.12321027

>>12308507
That's wrong too

>> No.12321052

>>12316657
>>12314415
it's still fermenting I guess.

>>12314976
which post? I just highlighted stuff that expressed sentiments that I thought were aligned with my own.

>>12312545
It's very much related to how they say that the brain is a muscle. It's much more flexible and pluripotent than we give it credit for, and we also have much more influence over it's operation than we (Americans, mostly) want to give ourselves credit for (because that would mean we couldn't externalize the causes of our suffering (like how incels insist that they got the shit end of the stick and there is /nothing/ they can do about it).

Hyperstition being a skill implies that we /do/ have control over what ideas become self-fulfilling prophecies. By the strength of how skillfully, persistent and patiently you meme something - the meme will eventually become reality. The fact that an idea /can/ become a self-fulfilling prophecy is somewhat irrelevant - what matters is how much time and dedication people put into /making/ it become a reality. Think of body-building, except for a handful of exceptions, everyone can become ripped. However, people don't want to admit to themselves that they are lazy, so they ///insist///, with all the fire and fury of heaven, that they belong to that class of exceptions. (btw - that lazyness is not inherent - it's a consequence of growing fat and soft at the hands of consumerism).

Hyperstition is not that new. It's part of a very old and long tradition of occult practices that was suppressed by monotheistic religion. "hyperstition is a skill" basically means the same thing as "being a good magician is a skill" - the magician being the person who can control their will so that they can manifest their reality ("manifest reality" being something world googling).

Land is a fuck because he get's SO FUCKING CLOSE to being a magician but then decides that he's gonna hang back and say that only capital can be hyperstitious. He's a petulant child who throws a fit so that he can get out of playing team sports.

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>>12321052
worth* googling

>>12319679
>>12319700
>>12319988
>>12317421

the concept of "deacceleration" fails to understand what "acceleration". Land's monster is that there cannot be an anti-tech philosophy anymore. What we /can/ do is reorganize how we approach technology so that it becomes re-politicized as a site for ethics. What this means is that we stop thinking about a knife as something that is ethically neutral. In the west, the knife is just a knife, whether it is used to stab someone to death or used in a surgery to save someone's life has nothing to do with the object. This is fucking stupid - it ignores so much about context and ecology and is basically a way for profiteers of suffering to justify their actions. A knife being sold in a den of thieves is a bad knife. Somehow, this has become a radical thought in the US.

>I will give a preliminary definition of cosmotechnics here: it means the unification between the cosmic order and the moral order through technical activities (although the term cosmic order is itself tautological since the Greek word kosmos means order). The concept of cosmotechnics immediately provides us with a conceptual tool with which to overcome the conventional opposition between technics and nature, and to understand the task of philosophy as that of seeking and affirming the organic unity of the two.

>Cosmotechnics proposes that we reapproach the question of modernity by reinventing the self and technology at the same time, giving priority to the moral and the ethical.

>Once we accept the concept of cosmotechnics, instead of maintaining the opposition between the magic/mythical and science and a progression between the two, we will be able to see that the former, characterized as the ‘speculative organisation and exploitation of the sensible world in sensible terms’, is not necessarily a regression in relation to the latter.

-- Yuk Hui/Cosmotechnics: The Question Concerning Technology in China

>> No.12321097

>>12317421
Ayn Rand to put all this malarkey in order and teach people what the frozen abstraction fallacy is.

>> No.12321576

>>12316657
Make it faggot

>> No.12322041

>>12315627
Nick Land is writing the philosophical apologetics for inceldom. He has mathematized the blackpill. His idea is that humans are powerless to change society. This is not really a new point, but he makes it using cutting-edge tools of post-contemporary philosophy. What this means is that, just like humans have domesticated animals, humans are being domesticated by a brutal idiot-god constructed of pure computational processing power. Oh, and there is nothing that you, or any one, can do, think, or even /feel/, to stop it. In fact, it's already happened. So no, Nick Land does not want to go the party, he does not want to lend you his truck to help you move. And NO, Nick Land doesn't think that improving his mood will improve how people treat him. No, he told you, he is politically opposed to getting a job. He told you already that he has a bad back and can't exercise, no there is no form of exercise that he can do. NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, YOU SAID THAT CLEANING MY ROOM WAS WORTH 5 GBP - IT IS ECONOMICALLY UNSOUND FOR ME TO CLEAN MY ROOM AT 5 GBP - UNLESS THE PRICE IS RAISED I WILL NOT CLEAN MY ROOM. YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF YOU FUCKING BITCH. GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY ROOM. FUCK YOU IQ SHREDDER.

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>>12322041
artful post

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>>12308250

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>> No.12323721

Can someone explain why Land writes the way that he does? Is it a statement on how people will look at you as a Schizo for pointing out the trouble we’re in?

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>> No.12324229

I wake up to girardposts and I'm happy again

>> No.12324810

>>12324229
Me too.

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>>12323721
he needed to convene with entities from the Outside to learn the truth. Accelerationist theory has largely been attempts to reterritorialize his gnostic-vision-shitposts.

>> No.12324902

>>12322041
>post-contemporary
Imagine thinking you're fast but being stuck in a 70-year-old pseud wormhole.

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>>12321052
>Hyperstition being a skill implies that we /do/ have control over what ideas become self-fulfilling prophecies
I like to think of hyperstitional objects as something like elder gods -- their cults pop up regardless of individual intent. How does Kek come to speak? It doesn't matter if you want to bring Kek back, he was always already here, smuggling himself back in once again, this time through the rhizomatic memetic-layer of human networking. Pepe is a Lovecraftian cult conceived in the deepest jungles of cyberspace. The Frog croaks through us.
http://www.xenosystems.net/kek/

>> No.12324914

>>12323721
Because he has nothing new to say so uses an algorithm/thesaurus/algorithm/black box system to make up bullshit.
A bit like Wojakposter.

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how do I into amphetamine?

>> No.12325510

>>12321065
>approach technology so that it becomes re-politicized as a site for ethics.

That sounds boring as fuck.

>> No.12325651

>>12325510
perhaps cultivating a meth addiction might make it more interesting for you.

>> No.12326421

>>12324810
I'm glad. Even if I don't agree with him usually. It's good for the board.

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>> No.12328391

great now I'm a tranny

>> No.12328818

Bump

>> No.12328911

>>12323721
he uses a markov chain like the schizoposters here

>> No.12330106

>>12328911
as a resident schizoposter I disagree

>> No.12330185

How do we successfully integrate xenofeminism into the inevitable technocapital future?

>> No.12330213

>>12330185
https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

>> No.12330295

>>12330185
>inevitable technocapital future?
Not gonna happen, at best we'll get Z/ACC.

>> No.12330330

>>12330295
quick rundown on z/acc?

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