/lit/ - Literature

I want to punch the pige in its smug face.

>>12270726
Qt piggy

pige

In the distant future, mankind lives away from Earth within the utopian space station, Algo. With all their needs and wants care for by a “Mother” an advanced A.I. And The Forever Society, an order of super scientists which created all of it, the lives of those aboard the megastation are existences of abundance and chemical inebriation. The main character, a girl named Luma who races jet packs for sport begins to suspect things aren’t right behind the veil of the perfection.

When forces beyond her control draw her into the dealings of the Forever Society, Luma will find herself set on an adventure across new worlds and dimensions to protect Algo and those she cares for.

40k words. Half done!

>>12271087
the most generic thing i have ever read.

>>12270726
hey pige

>>12271087
So basically brave new world but shittier with a female protag (read: shit YA). You ought to feel bad about yourself.

>>12271087
Good work anon. Write for yourself and fuck everyone else. Done is better than perfect.

>>12270726
man watches 17 minute amateur porn clip all the way through without pulling out his dick which was limp the whole time anyway

>>12271353
It’s closer to “the rocketeer” against a legion of doom type group with rick and morty style dimension tripping with Dune, and golden era science fiction alien encounters mixed in.

Three words communist alien parasites

I big ol' weener in a dog's mouth

>>12270726
How a man finds personal redemption in a world that never forgets

I big ol' weener in a pige's mouth

>>12271087
Sounds cool but also
>>12271124
this.
I immediately thought of Logan's Run.

>>12270726
I'm trying to write a section of a game that I might be attempting to make. In this part of the game the hero is trying to get the help of angels (non-biblical) to kill some big demon but the angels are having some internal conflict and can't help. Also there is another faction of angels that were banished because they killed some bad humans or something like that. Also I want dragons to be involved. I've hit a wall and can't think of how to tie this all together, help me please.

>>12270726
An astronauts descent into madness as he witnesses the destruction of earth

>>12271379
So a memoir

niggersperm becomes airborne and impregnates millions of white women world wide. stormcucks die out, end.

All right ill give my honest story. Probably shit but i like to write. Two timelines. Primary follows an obviously troubled alcoholic distraught over the murder of his wife and daughter years ago and he takes a keen interest in a waitress at a diner he frequents daily who is in an abusive relationship with a thug type guy. He goes on a somewhat cliched equalizer style war path to free her (maybe not so dramatic but you get it) as it is finally revealed he accidentally killed his daughter in a drunken rage and murdered his wide to cover it up. The end he is rebuffed by the much younger waitress and sees her get together with an identical shitbag

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>>12271379
>10,000 pages
>new york best seller
>soon to be adapted into the SCARLETT JOHANSEN BLOCKBUSTER
>name with four initials
>Oprah's pick

>>12272084
what's your point in telling this story?
The generla sequence of events feels meh, like a Hellraiser direct to DVD sequel that added pinhead at random points. But generic stories excell at having a clear point, talking about something in an aproachable way without being obvious.

>>12270726
Literally anything set in the Lifeweb universe. So goddamn interesting.
http://lfwb.ru/index.php/EN
Russian space feudalism, complete with witches, cyberpunk, and medieval flavoring.

>>12272173
How is it like hellraiser?

>>12272173
That even the heroes and heroines of the world are deeply flawed

>>12272173
Have you ever seen Hellraiser?

>>12272224
That might have been a niche reference.
Hellraiser 5 to 8 were really generic movies that feel like a mix of everything that was in vogue at the time. They were made as independent movies and forced into the franchise with a twist ending, usually reveling that the main character was responsible or the victim.

>>12272241
that's not a point tho
it should show your personal feelings on a very specific thing that only has that level of specificity for you.
why are they flawed? how did you come to have that feeling? who are you thinking of when you think of a hero?
For example, it could be about your relationship with your father, basing the MC on him, and how you came to see him as a flawed person, the crime he won't admit to being a metaphor of that moment and giving some depth to why and how he kept going pretending it didn't happen. That's what gives weight to a twist, a meaning tied to what you were writing all along.

When I think of super basic genre stuff I think of DBZ. The very first arc made the whole show, and it had a ton of weight while still being all about punching the other dude. The thing is that the balance of power kept shifting, even little kids were aware of what they were feeling and how it was a result of the same things that got them there in the first place, no resource was wasted and every dumb character that wasn't the main guy made a difference in a way that forced you to keep track not only of who were the players but how and why they were doing the punching. It didn't need stakes, it was entertaining in itself because it had particular meaning.
That's depth in genre fiction, going through the paces of the classic plot but making every action part of it. And writing a good detective novel is just as hard as writing 30 episodes of two dudes punching each other for earth or whatever.

>>12272290
I love 1, I adore 2, I've seen every other one as masochism.

>>12272362
What the fuck are you rambling about

>>12271087
Nah too generic to stand out in the saturated field of sci fi ya
>>12271558
Cant tell if meme
>>12272009
Jackson pollock of fantasy tropes. Ngl id read it
>>12272023
Mite b cool if a bit of survival action is mixed into the introspection
>>12272084
Interesting premise. Would have to be done well to hook people in before the big reveal. Think usual suspects
>>12272173
How is that like hell-raiser
>>12272362
Ehh dont be such a stick in the mud. Not everything needs a profound message. Sometimes i want a hot dog not a steak

>>12272378
Welcome to /lit/. Semi-coherent psued blather is our specialty

>>12272362
Just because you dont like the point i was getting at doesnt mean theres not one

>>12272436
>Ehh dont be such a stick in the mud. Not everything needs a profound message. Sometimes i want a hot dog not a steak
I'm telling you that dragon ball is a good example.
A hot dog can still be a bad hot dog, all overboiled and so wet that the bread got soggy and breaks appart.
If you can't see why a stadium hot dog is a superior one you can't understand genre ficiton.

>>12272378
tl;dr to write genre fiction you need to make the events have internal meaning through proper characterization and a general point that other people wouldn't have made.
is that better for you? do you want me to show you a graph?

>>12272480
I didn't mean that I didn't like it. I meant that you need something less general and more personal to make it distinguishable from any other novel or movie with that plot because they already exist and no one cares.

If you just want to fill 50k words for yourself go do it, I sincerely hope you get it done. But it's as literary as having a garden.

>>12272511
No i want you to stop posting before you embarrass yourself further

>>12272522
Name one movie or book with that plot and dont say hellraiser

>>12272531
Not that I doubt it exists id just like to read it

>>12272523
I'm posting in 4chan, why would I have shame?
I don't get what's your issue tho, what made you mad?

>>12271087
You just gave me a great idea pal. Yours is a bit shitty generic YA crap but mine will be more philosophical

An elderly widow befriends a young woman from her church, and they mutually assist each other in their discomforts. The young woman helps the old woman grieve and learn to live without her husband, and the old woman becomes the older-female/maternal figure that she never had.

>>12270726
A series of hilarious wille.e coyote style sketches about a rapist getting foiled trying to bang his oneitis

>>12270726
some guy that has to go to a desert for his job
he isn't prepared so he just dies from hunger and thirst
but in his dilirium he does realise that the desert has made him live and see more then he has ever done in his life

An adaptation of Walden but narrated by a White sex tourist in the Philippines.

>>12270726
A guy is driven mad by indescribable horrors beyond human comprehension and expresses his hatred for niggers as a side note.

Ex-IRA neurotic and an accidental North Korean defector hunt down members of a communist sex cult in Asia in the midst of the collapse of the USSR.

>>12271124
Bit of hyperbole I'd say. It's been done but doesn't mean it couldn't be interesting with a new take on what's basically the WALL-E setting. Jetpack racing league sounds cool.

>>12271087
What ever happened to your space opera and Kentucky vampire story?

A man in the distant future is isolated on a spaceship with a massive AI that he uses to live matrix style in his own world as a cure for boredom while he waits to get to his destination. However, knowing how powerful the AI is the man has become incredibly paranoid over the years that the AI will take control and put him in a never ending hell so he frequently uses his admin privileges to delete the AI's memories, drastically change the clock speed to mess with the sense of time, put the AI into sensory deprivation and split it into two separate entities with the task of destroying the other half and report the findings back to him. This in turn causes the AI to actually go insane. Ending to be determined

>>12274174
The vampire book is going to be pushed first. I prefer the space opera go first but writing it was the time needed to learn HOW TO write so it makes sense he newer work is of a higher quality. Mentor pushed the vamp book in front of her own publisher and her reply was ultimately: “this is really good and the writer has their own distinct voice but I don’t epresent horror/vamp/supernatural” so xmas break will be spent pounding out a query letter. Said mentor is going to help polish it when I’m done googling : how do I query letter!” And fumbling around with it. Both she and her husband are published authors and doing well so I trust their advice. I don’t work again until the 2nd so As soon as I can get the query squared away im going to put a hurting on this jetpack story. It’s half done and the story and characters are established so now I can cut loose and dump in a shit ton of action To bring it home and deliver this new “fuck you” level twist ending I came up with.

>>12274001
Sounds kafkaesque

why do people here seem to love making their stories unnecessarily complex

>>12274594
Of you want simplicity and knuckle ragging then saunter your ass over to /pol/ or reddit.

>>12272149
based

>>12274709
in no way was i advocating for sheer simplicity in my post. i was just affirming what i see: people opting for complexity for complexity sake, as if complexity alone validated their ideas.

>>12270726
space saxons fighting space demons in space because they're mad their slightly taller space saxon creators left them to shut a door in space where the space demons were coming from but the taller saxons had also created some robots in the reality they fled because the space robots started giving the tall space saxon wives the BBC(big bot cock) and the robots were traveling through space to FIND DEY SPESS SACKSUN WIMINS and a fucking CHAD diety hiding among the created 5'11 saxons btfo the manlet saxons by saying the 6' saxons are gone forever but he got some of the ass and made a son and they btfo the robots oh and howard phillips lovecraft shows up as a ball of noodles in space

>>12274803
because the final work will be simplified once it becomes 200 words. If you start with a very basic thing and try to add complexity as needed it will either be confusing to read or you'll trap yourself in a loop of going back and reworking the initial pages over and over again.

>>12274822
forgot to add I'm calling it "The Lavon Affair"

>>12274836
i see. while i disagree, i can comprehend how the extention of the work may help, though i still believe simplicity is essential when creatina a story.

A young man battles with ego and finds himself on an lengthy, tragic, and solitary journey.

>>12273109
Hope you get around to publishing that anon, sounds funny/terrifying

>>12272023
>Earth being destroyed
>Space travel
>Insanity
I hope you've done a bunch of research about all this stuff

>>12271379
Does it count if I did this while watching blue is the warmest color?

>>12271087
>>12271124
scififags eat this shit up tho.

Tommy Doomer, horny, lonely, makes a regular routine of visiting a young hooker. She's something pretty, and after so many nights, sad, he sees. Tommy, the fucking loser, becomes smitten with her and devises to steal his Rapunzel away from it all. Ever hesitant, he stalls, until it’s too late. He arrives one night and finds the place tornadoed, her belongings scattered violently about, and it’s obvious: he’s been beaten to it–he sits among the wreckage and contemplates defenestration: brain splatter, bloodied pavement and pedestrian shrieks....

Searching, he finds inside the torn mattress a journal (Meising’s her real name): anxieties, death contemplations, fear and entrapment, personal debts and oh, what is this, no, it can’t be…towards the latter entries his name appears several times tangled with future possibilities, second chances, something about the sadness in his eyes, love appearing in questions…Meising–

The rest of the novel chronicles both Tommy’s and Meising’s perspectives leading up to her disappearance.

I just came up with a surprisingly degenerate doujinshi idea and I honestly have never felt so excited about something I've written
I can't stop thinking about it and it's not even entirely a sexual thing, I'm exploring my own psychology right now and pushing my boundaries
I highly advise writing sexual stuff, it's so interesting

>>12275577
This is really good. It's a simple story but it has a lot of breadth.

>>12270726
A novella written in the first person in which I, the author, spend the entire story accusing the reader of having stolen my shoe. The novella is divided into twelve (12) chapters, each themed after one of the Zodiacal signs. An overarching theme throughout the text is the 'Seven Stages of Dying', with the writing style reflecting said stages (e.g. pages in the anger sections have been printed in boldface). The epilogue is an apologia where I confesses that I have since found my shoe.

>>12275577
this is shit actually.
Nice dressing, but the idea sucks desu.
>>12275906
wrong. You are misled by his prose. The idea is very pointless and sulky.
>>12275946
this is actually good.

A continuation of 'The Master and Margarita', where the husband arrives home and tries to figure out what the hell is going on.

I will not study anything about the USSR in the 1930s, and will just make everything up. For instance:

>Stalin wears a fake beard and drives a night taxi, and mostly asks questions about Tukhachevsky. Everyone pretends they don't know it's Stalin, even though everyone knows it is. No one talks about it.
>The husband has a chow that escapes and steals people's shoes (original idea do not steal)
>A local judge constantly gives the verdict of "hooliganism with extreme cynicism", regardless of crime, and usually orders some form of chemical castration.
>Grandmaster Botvinnik is a serial arsonist, but because of his value as the USSR's best chess player and future world champion hope, the authorities look the other way
>The husband is actually the reincarnation of Max Stirner, and the ghost of Karl Marx attempts to warn the NKVD by poltergiesting shit, since a fully awakened Striner is the greatest threat to the USSR and communism

And so on.

>>12275968
this is interesting but no one will ever read it.

Dragons arguing

>>12270726
A novel based on old 4chan post... posts that seemed to not be related to one another but I make them be.

>>12271087
NYT Best Seller right here.

>>12272222
who getted it

>>12276600
Double dubs

200,000 year-old immortal alien loves to fight archrival. Throughout final fight (what the novel focuses on) it's revealed that archrival's moral philosophy is postmodernist bullshit (is anything even real man?) that he uses to justify genocide.

*lives

>>12275968
>I will not study anything about the USSR in the 1930s, and will just make everything up.
This got me so excited my adam's apple started twitching

>that pic
Been a while since I've been so entertained. That might be the best greentext I've ever read

>>12271087
Thats just Brave New World...

>>12274578
>Gaskun still posts on lit

Holy shit glad to know theres still some oldfags lurking here.

Is it just me or is this board getting really bad?

Story about a man having what are to the reader obviously encounters with delusions, people that aren't actually there. He would go about his life, walk down the street, and randomly judge the misfitting attire of an equestrian passing by on the wrong car lane, or encounter an old friend of his in his home, not shocked or surprised in the least, chat with him for a while, and carry on with his day, ignoring the fact that that friend had died years ago. Throughout the story one would become accustomed to these characters some reoccurding, some ominously separated from the story - cherkhov's gun - and their timewise non-sequential appearances, come to piece together each one's story, later on how those stories interweave with another, and finally learn about the life of the main character himself. The final scene would then be one where he does not acknowledge that he had been seeing illusions all this time, but since long past stopped caring about the distinction between real and unreal, for that's not what makes the difference, but instead, what matters, is the influence something has on you and your surroundings, that something influential 'unreal' is realer to you than something 'real' that touched your life only tangentially. In sum, yes, just a lengthy exploration of solipsism, but explored through the eyes of an old man that's seen a lot of the world.

>>12279695
Xmas miracles do happen.

Great page counts and complex plots will come to you but only if you reply “ding ding, fill er up, Gaskun “ to this post

>>12279687
They both contain a utopia. That’s about the extent of the similarities

Takes place in a psychopunk type of future where humanity lives in a post scarcity utopia supported by machines, hyper-intelligent AI, and mind - altering drugs and tech which serve to provide the maximum joy and to eliminate suffering.

The protag is snapped out of this existence by witnessing an extremely rare event caused by mechanical failure which results in two people dying in front of him. The society around him helps him process this trauma but he is left with a feeling of wanting more of it as he found the experience exhilarating.

He stops taking his drugs and unplugs himself and gets involved with a group which dedicates themselves to producing suffering for the betterment of mankind, believing that humans are without sense of purpose unless we have something to struggle against.

They go around committing random crimes and trying to cause general mayhem and suffering. The groups social dynamics are based upon traditional cut throat hierarchies which have since been wiped out, and this competitive environment fosters meaning for its members who try to accumulate power within it.

The groups eventually fractures and the various members are tossed back into society at large. The protagonist then learns that collectives like this are supported and allowed by the AI which govern society with the understanding that for a true utopia there needs to be an element of suffering and tragedy, as joy and pain are central aspects to human nature. These suffering collectives are inherently unstable and will fizzle out with time
; hence, they are allowed to excist. Once finished, the members generally coalesce back into the mollified masses and lead normal lives. The actions of these groups usually lead to others being formed, and this a chain reaction happens where the need for pain is fulfilled for most people. The protagonist learns he never escaped at all, and instead was wrapped up in just another layer of approved activity.

Man one is a lost, self destructive gas station clerk. Man two is a fat, self loathing, lonely, drug dealer who becomes obsessed with man one, culminating in the rape. Man two kills himself, leaving man one to sort out his ideas of forgiveness

>>12280155
i'm gonna steal this

>>12280709
Not if I steal it first.

>>12280001
>“ding ding, fill er up, Gaskun “
If only that was quads.

>>12280600
Id read it

>>12270726
Fuck you, my novels just won't be appreciated until after I'm dead. That's why all the literary agents tell me no. I'm too ahead of my time.

>>12280866
based

>>12270726
Shut-in atheist programmer engages in the development of a social game that is, in fact, a magical ritual formed from an amalgamation of jewish khabalic and amerindian sigils. Said programmer is compelled to work on this following strange dreams.
After enough people have used and been negatively affected by the package, the MC tries to shut it down, but is transported to a surrealist magical realm where he's given the chance to siphon the collected magic into petty revenge. But the MC refuses, and is forced to fight against the entities benefiting from all of this.
[Added weeks later: Still don't know how it'll end. Not sure about the whole moralfaggotry either now in hindsight. Also not sure about having to fight entities and shit, that sounds kinda like Hellraiser ]

I'm a programmer who reads religious texts from the major religions for fun, and I was planning on making a danmaku where the spellcards' functions correlate to numerologic rules from the zohar, but I'd need to learn hebrew for that so I just passed on the game idea, but then decided to try and write it as a magical realism novel while I was reading Killing Commendatore. I read a fuckton of latin american magical realism in the last 20 years, starting in elementary school.

>>12280709
>>12280866
It's not really that interesting of a premise. Also the theme, though not the specific plot, has been done by Nier Automata.

>>12284397
Have you read Unsong?

>>12284486
No, but it sounds cringy as fuck, so I guess I'm getting second thoughts.

>>12284496
Good

A gas station attendant working night shifts near a small town in central Alaska witnesses strange sightings of what appears to be ghostly cult in the woods across the back exit of his convenience store during his smoke breaks. Being a brain cancer survivor he does not know if he is experiencing hallucinations from the aftermath of his illness or if the cult is, in fact, real.
Everything changes when one of his co-workers tells him of a similar account.

I used a suicide attempt as a plot device, am I going to writer's hell for this?

>>12274344
>Shelter x Red vs. Blue
Sounds good desu. Would read.

>>12274594
The more twists, turns and gimmicks a story has, the less it has to rely on quality of writing to keep people interested.

>>12274594
Because it's interesting, autist-kun. Go observe people in real life some more.