/lit/ - Literature

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>>12244465
fuck niggers but unironically

I feel like this board has gone down in quality since the 4channel thing, I hope it'll get better in a few weeks.

>>12244611
desu i feel like the crit threads have actually gotten better

>>12244611
Why the fuck would that have had any impact whatsoever?

>>12244611
It was pretty obvious that shit wasnt going to do anything you actual retarded nigger

>>12244668
>>12244679
Not him but I didn't think it would matter a shite but I can't help but notice the quality has degraded since. Fuck I'm honestly likely to kill myself if this site dies. I thought I was so autonomous but if 4chan dies I'm not ready to go out on my own. I need you

>>12244724
sounds like if 4chan dies you might actually turn out all right

i really like these threads

you guys are nice and you give decent advice, thanks friends

ive got a big problemo

im such a little gimp when it comes to reading (analytic) philosophy. i literally agree wholeheartedly with everything i read -- so i end up holding the position of whatever i last read. i'm reading through a shit-tonne of epistemology papers (i've read maybe 14 in the past week) and i end up agreeing with some theory till i read a critique and realise it was bs the whole time.

pls help

>>12244724
Hesse

>>12244742
Cicero

>>12244746
Michelstaedter

>>12244522
>>12244525
>>12244648
>>12244668
>>12244679
>>12244737
These are all shit shit posts, not funny ones. Quit squirming .

>>12244611
I attempted a one man effort to save it but the shit is inevitable, 4chan is a losing proposition, you can't have so many downers contributing to something and have it turn out well.

I need to find other venues and have for a long time to post and post my posts.

I definitely need to move on up to hacker listservs and the like. That's where all the intelligent things get discussed on the internet.

Better yet, find more smart people to hang out with and just talk about it in person.

I'm from Northern Ireland and I am confused and terrified thinking about how post-Brexit will turn out without a border deal. Even though I voted remain, if I was English born and bred I would 100% have voted leave. So I'm not at all mad at Leave voters, sympathetic in fact - its just such a shame we're attached to their decision

>>12244611
Why the fuck would it get better?

>>12244465
Every friend I've made on the Internet ends up confessing their depression, mental illness, and substance abuse to me. I'm beginning to think the Internet is full of losers.

>>12244805
You're going to have to fight a civil, intercultural war in your own country. Ignore the reasons as to why. The only matter is that you'll have to fight one day, and that day is coming soon.

Is sex: transcendent, primitive, or ordinary?
That is, does it occupy a domain [a) below, b) above or c) concurrent with] non-sexual human relations, desires, actions etc?

a) sex ground the individual In-The-World-Around, connection to physical reality that is often lost in our day-to-day lives, primitive
b) sex transcends oneself, one loses awareness of environment, even (to an extent) the physical sensations (instead aware only of its effect -- ie: pleasure)
c) sex is a process integrated into ordinary life, performing various functions related to interpersonal relationship etc. it's neither transcendent nor animalistic

trying to be someone you're not is agony

>>12244820
But what is a loser, my friend? Most people compares themselves to the imaginary self, the perfect depiction be it in a most superficial way or in a deep one that the person is not completely aware of. Unless one belives to represent the depiction, one will fall in despair sooner or later, a despair that should be hidden to the "real" people, not to internet friends that appear to be ideal friends, who side by you and lend a "hand", even then the depiction in itself even if it changes is static for most a way to be, age does not apply.

Currently, like the past 5 or 6 years I have procrastinated every important decision in my life, and even with my desire to write a book I always think of convenient excuses to leave it for later, I want to write but feel pathetic for wanting so, I feel myself unworthy.

the only thing that seems certain is that I'm going to be a full blown alcoholic in a few months time

>>12244856
nothing wrong with that, everyone has their vocation.

>>12244820
almost every friend you'll make will do this especially girls

the world is full of losers

>>12244465
I'm slowly turning into a reactionary crank

>>12244668

What’s that book about females and their inferior traits that some anon usually posts in threads about women? I can’t think of the name.

>>12244872

>>12244801
>I definitely need to move on up to hacker listservs and the like
Please enlighten me.

>>12244465

Had a mild panic attack over the prospect of grad school and/or future employment. It's ok though.
Next year's going to be interesting, for myself and nearly everyone I know. It's funny that fate converges on this one year to be incredibly important for a majority of people in my life; that's never happened before. Or at least not with such blatant forethought.

May just move to a country with a wildin out welfare system. I don't need much income to be happy, I just can't fathom working in America.

>>12244746

I had (and still have, to a degree) something like this. The answer is really to just actively engage with what you're reading. Try to think of reasons why, given what you know and have read, whatever text you're reading might be wrong or right.

>>12244892
don't do it, you don't want to end up like him

I've come to realize that I genuinely hate being a guy and would have had a much more richer and fulfilling life if I had been born a woman. Don't know where to go from there

>>12244611
the internet in general just feels like its in a constant decline, with good communities being eclipsed and consumed by social media and tech corporations.

>>12244805
I'm in the south and I feel bad for you guys. I'm hoping you stay in Britain because as godawful as any Brexit deal can be, it's nothing compared to telling the DUP etc they now live in united Ireland. I feel kind of bad for Leave voters because I think a lot of them voted without thinking about the real issues this would cause, since no Leave campaigner brought them up. I don't think they would have changed their minds, but we might not be running so close to the deadline now if they'd planned for a backstop or other solution at the campaign stages. A lot of the leave campaign glossed over what would happen with NI and it's making what would still be a hard process much harder.

>>12244907
Eternal September

>>12244907
>Good literature based forum community of 15 years creates a Discord channel
>Self-destructs within a week and the owner rm's everything
Every time

>>12244905
There seems to be a correlation between men who strongly dislike women and men who want to be women. I guess it's born out of jealousy.

Entirely anecdotal and based on my own observations but a still curious case. I wonder if anybody has done a real study on it.

>>12244878
Sex and character?

>>12244932
Discord is like a worse version of any 4chan general. Except usually devoid of any topic and just a circlejerk/friend-simulator. I never saw the /lit/ discord but I'm guessing it was just the same old petty drama that kills every community. Embarrassing to see grown men acting like teenage girls.

>>12244465
I've read some books this summer and I have come to a realization, the existence of "greater" people. Like a different division of people that exist everywhere. These type of people have a stronger sense in philosophy, virtue and culture. They understand the ethics of their country and are "disgusted" from how things are being ran in their country.
It doesn't matter, even if they would live in a dystopian community. There would always be something that they are not satisfied with. These people want a balance in spiritual and scientific advancement. I could go on but it would get boring.

>>12244920
>it's nothing compared to telling the DUP etc they now live in united Ireland.
If you think that's bad wait until the united government has to reconfigure the entire economy and raise taxes significantly in preparation to integrate the north Ireland economy.

>>12244933
I think thats more true of cis gay men than dysphorics

>>12244951
>I've read some books this summer
Can you name your favorite ?

>>12244951
Baby's first The Republic

>>12244832
thanks for the response, could you elaborate some of this?

>>12244966

>>12244953
That's unlikely to make much difference, since we'd get funded out the ass for taking them on. But mandatory Irish classes for their kids and we might go back to pre agreement days of terror. Most kids under 30 in RoI never had bomb drills in school or saw armed patrols or border crossings, or even remember how regular successful bombs were. Though we will save a lot of tax money when we have to remove every public rubbish bin from the island again.>.<
I care much more about not getting blown up than the tax money. It's not like you can spend it once they dump you in a bog.

>>12244945
The problem is that you get to know the people in a Discord server far far to well that focused discussion becomes pointless, you very quickly get to the point where you already know the opinions and tastes of people so well you can accurately predict how a entire conversation is going to go.

>>12244966
I've finished The state of Plato's, Joseph Conrad Heart of darkness, studied Aristotle book of the Soul and another Greek book, which you probably never heard of.

>>12244985
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.

>>12244996
>which you probably never heard of.
ok
What is your favorite ?

>>12244465
The only books that have kept my attention have been books on acceleration, cybernetics, sci-fi (cyberpunk et al.). It's all because of Baudrillard and I honestly think its taking a toll on my mental state its starting to freak me out.


Also please provide reqs

Going to downgrade my smart phone to a burner phone that can just make calls and texts. Call me what you like but I hate having the internet on the go with me. I'd rather keep it contained at home for spare time. Will miss the convenience of Google Maps though

>>12245013
Plato's State was interesting, especially how Thrasumaxos represented his oxymoron to Platos State. Joseph Conrad was very different from what I read. But since English isn't my first language I would choose Plato

>>12245031
>Call me what you like
A silly billy
>Will miss the convenience of Google Maps though
I still keep paper maps in my car. If that fails you can always just ask directions.

>Met a girl at a club and we got extremely sexual with each other, but didn't actually have sex.
>Texted her the other day and felt like a chump by how beta my writing sounded, and for going back to my default inofensive meekness, something that was absent the day we met. >Decided to be a bit more daring with the next text.
>She gets ofended and says I was taking too many liberties for someone who barely knows her.
>At the same time I only wanted something sexual and my directness was partially caused by this, since exhaustive texting to know/connect with a girl is something I dislike, and frankly, I didn't want to pursue any relationship with her.
>My autism fucked me up again, but at the same time I can't stop laughing whenever I'm reminded of the situation due to a friend of mine, to whom I told the story, comparing me to a fictional character from my irrelevant country.

This lightness upon reflecting on what happened brings me a measure of satisfaction, since a few months ago I would have gone completely neurotical over her rejection, so clearly something in me is changing, and hopefully my self-perception is improving.

Tl;dr: Autism causes my failures but also helps me deal with their consequences.

>>12245011
These people will never (never never) settle for a united Ireland but will continually suck off London who barely gives a shit about them. Books for this feel?

>>12244905
1. do you have a physique where transition would work well?
2. you might find your preferences go: cis woman>cis man>trans woman
3. even if you think: trans woman > cis man. check its not a case that: young trans woman > young cis man, but old cis man > old trans woman
if you decide you want to transition (and ask some honest friends -- dont tell family till youre sure) then start asap

if you dont: consider why youd rather be a woman -- is it fashion, the gender norms etc? bc you can be a gender-non-conforming man. if you become a cross-dresser try hard to be fashionable (wear nice dresses), otherwise youll seem like a crazy person.

>>12245011
The fuck is wrong with the guy in the middle left. Why are DUP members always so disformed and degenerate?

>>12244801
t. newfag

>>12244858
tfw not a single negative experience/trait to confess to people
feels good to be a chosen one

>>12244951
>the existence of "greater" people
that would be me, hello

>>12245047
I posted this thread the other day
>>11342580

I'm pretty sure I'm trans, just not sure what to do with that but of information yet

>>12244746
Hey anon, this probably means you need to take a step back and start reading easier stuff. Papers purpose is to publish new theoretical/experimental concepts and thus are not meant to be read just for the fun of it. If there is a background, it will often be insufficient for you to really get the point of the article unless you are graduated or an expert in this particular field. So, my advice, take classes and read books until you have gathered enough knowledge to get on this level. The critical thinking will emerge from you reading understandable stuff and critiquing it in classes and with other people. If you really like reading papers, then maybe you need to slow down the reading,14 in a week is too much. Actively read the stuff you read and try to make links with other stuff you have read. Compare the new notions to the view you are holding over the matter you are reading. It just seems to me that you feel like you feel because you are stuck in a very narrow part of knowledge and knowledge you yet don't understand/havn't had time to digest.

>>12245070
Oops

>>https://boards.4channel.org/lgbt/thread/11342580#top

>>12245046
Actually the problem is the London gives to much of a fuck about them and Scotland.

>>12244985
>since we'd get funded out the ass for taking them on
From where? there's no room in the EU's budget, It's already short hundreds of millions and will get worse because of Brexit.

I work peripheral to the school system and it's sad to see how cucked education is by special interests. There's no reason for a high schooler to read some fucking affirmative action shit lit like Sherman Alexie and generally short, poorly written books about teenagers with fucked up lives when they could be reading formative 20th century classics.

>>12245075
That's the type of person to complain about /pol/posting.

>>12245031
I have considered this as well, when I move to my own phone plan in the next year or so I will probably do the same thing.

>>12244465
Chicken. Pizza

Pie

Should I drink the two beers that are left?

>>12245087
I don't know contrapoints is pretty good on the /lit/ meta, check out that infinite jest on her bookshelf

>>12245071
problem is: ive got to read an absolute shit tonne of papers this christmas for my degree (maths and philosophy).
i've basically done no philosophy and my tutors are pissed and forcing me to finally learn some. maybe thats the problem -- because i cant really afford to spend time analysing the flaws with a position when i could just read the listed paper critiquing it.

>>12244465
Over the past couple years I’ve been doing whatever I wanted and only doing things for myself. I thought that everyone doing what they “should” be doing were dumb and just becoming cogs in the machine. I had fun just living in the moment . Sex, drugs, rock and roll a d all that. I just look back now and realize I didnt actually accomplish anything because I have no motivation to try. I’m starting to wonder if I should comform to society or try and continue being my own person even if it ends up being bad for me in the long run.

>>12245119
contra is very /lit/, she grew up as a pretentious nerd/bro

>>12244905
>>12245070
>>12245075
Just because you want to be a woman doesn't mean you are actually trans, since transgenderism isn't supposed to be a choice is it? It's a biological fact, apparently. Honestly though, I feel your pain in a way. I went through an autogyne-confusion phase as well, and at the end of it I realised, fuck this self-determination bullshit, that I get to choose my destiny, I'm a man and that's as stable a fact as I'm gonna get, because it is literally a fact. Transitioning will just throw you permanently into a convoluted aesthetic form of living, where you feel secure in-the-world by being a ridiculous hyper-feminised caracature of womanhood. Don't do it. Learn to bear the pain, It's what hte rest of us have done.

>>12244465
I didn't know people could enjoy a movie based only on it's photography alone, but seeing ROMA's golden lion and /tv/ praise, I think I was wrong, with that said: I want my 2 hours back.
Im thinking in gifting to my cousin The Nazi Literature in the Americas or Distant Star
Its disappointing seeing people believe in democracy until the don't get what they want, and how those who goes for the most radical option, forget about their pick (and its consequence) less than a month later (no, Im not talking about Trump).
Finally, I think there's not such a thing a great work of art, there's only good works of art, the "great" ones are the ones that appeal to your personal likings or interests.
I have a headache.

>>12245115
Unless there is some non-moralistic reason not to, yes.

>>12245078
>From where? there's no room in the EU's budget, It's already short hundreds of millions and will get worse because of Brexit.
The idea there's no room seems off because we're scheduled to dedicate more of it than ever to growth and infrastructure between regions. What goes to NI already is easily covered, even when you take out Britain contributing directly or through the EU. The problem isn't money, the problem is policing and peace walls and shit that involves dead people and carnage at that point.

>>12245132
>she
don't do that, anon.

>>12245153
gender is a linguistic confusion, fa.m

>>12245075
That’s really something you need to figure out for yourself anon. Think about what will actually make you happy. People on an imageboard cant help you with these kinds of decisions though. I’m not going to say how you should feel, but make the decision that’s actually the best for YOU.

>>12245141
Ok then, I'll drink some more. Thanks

trash janny stop deleting funposting threads

>>12244907
I'm seriously thinking of giving up on 4chan and trying to find a good mailing list or facebook group to talk about my shit.

>>12244973
he's a conspiracy theorist

>>12245174
Thanks. I think I'm gonna see if I can talk to a therapist tomorrow

>>12244987
I think my issue with Discord lies in a different area than most. Large servers feel really impersonal and no one really "talks". They say things but there isn't ever really a conversation going on. People are constantly trying to break the ice and silence but then it just sort of immediately returns. Small servers feel a bit better but I have experienced too many bouts of pure silence. There is never really a reason to talk in the group when you private messages. It might just be the "communities" I have been part of but many of the people who I have talked to on there seem not to be "self aware". Users seem much too quick to avoid anything that brings them even slight displeasure, blocking or just outright pretending someone doesn't exist. No effort in even trying to talk it out. Just block, delete, gone.

>>12245070
If sounds like you were raised to think females better or more capable of doing things. You probably have issues with women more than you want to be one. You probably want respect attention and a woman who doesn't take those things away from you.

The problem is, if you became an attractive woman magically tomorrow, other women will take respect and attention away from you still. They'll actually do it intentionally too. Not casually drawing male attention away from you like women might do now, but with forethought other women would see you as a risk - like they see other women - and set about destroying your reputation and means of attention. If your goal is respect and attention, and especially if it's from women, do not use the magic to become one.

If this is about feeling left out by girls doing things without you being allowed to: you don't want to know how much better girls exclude fellow girls. There is a reason all the younger teen suicides are females, because they bully psychologically much better than men.
Boys might beat you to death, but girls will tell you that you shouldn't have kids you're so fucking up yourself and gain and ugly how would they turn out you're basically useless to the human race omg I bet you're a lesbian you sad loser who can't get a bf and thinks she's hot enough anyone would want to sleep with her and will have to fuck old fat dykes or get ivf if you want a family btw didn't your parents divorce no wonder you are so fucked up omg so embarrassed for your continued existence. That run on sentence is good morning in girl-girl speak, and they say hi to you throughout the day. All of them.

If you were trying to gain acceptance amongst women by becoming one, female to female acceptance doesn't exist. Respect and positive attention are generally lies from them, because how they ensure they get Chad is by beating out the other bitches.

Work on the stuff that isn't gender based first. Depression and lack of social support isn't going to magically disappear if you transition: social support will be predicated on your transition if you go to a support group and they might not deal well with you having regrets if they happen.

I'd recommend getting a wife as soon as possible and making babies. The emphasis you have on turning out attractively as a woman will not beat what women do to attract attention, which includes making sure other women don't get any and feel bad about getting any. Sort the shit that isn't about your body out, rather than adding more chances to be deprived of respect and attention. Take care of your body regardless of its gender, but don't try to get attention by being attractive like women do, unless you also want to find out how women divert attention from other women who try to steal their potential mate pool.

>>48768747
>meet a girl two months ago
>go on a date
>she tells me she’s leaving to go home to New Zealand at the end of the year
>we start dating anyway
>makes me happier than I’ve been in a while
>in fact, makes me forgot about my ex altogether
>slowly start to fall for her
>she has this persona that makes you just want to hold her forever and make sure she’s safe and protected
>push the fact that she’s leaving out of my head until the day arrives where she goes
>anticipating saying goodbye to her before she leaves for the airport
>instead, I get a long message saying that she actually left early that morning and that she didn’t tell me because she couldn’t bear to say goodbye and that she thought it’d be easier for both of us to keep a memory of each other at a time when we were happy, rather than one where we were leaving each other
>say that’s its understandable and hope that she has a nice life
>mfw I’d bought her a second-hand 1890s collection of the Romantic poets (a shared passion) and inscribed a note inside just talking about how much I’d enjoyed our time together
>mfw it’s now just sitting on my shelf looking sad while she’s flying to the other side of the world and I’m just lying in bed feeling like an idiot for falling in love with a girl that I could never be together with

FUUUFCKFUFFUFFFUUCCCK AAAAAAAAAAAAA

Got a job at starbucks and want to fuck some qt barista girls

afraid of coming off too nice or too crude

>>12245345
Do like me and fuck up by alternating between both.

>>12245344
:(

>>12245344
I made the same mistake

>>12245348
its hard to balance, i need to get out of my house more to get a hang out whats socially acceptable
i spend so much time here that whenever i try to tame myself down, i feel like i tame myself too much
>>12245344
are you guys trying long distance or what friend

>>12245365
I don’t think long distance works unless there’s hope of ever seeing the other person again, which unless I can find a spare £2000, isn’t going to happen. It’s best, I think, to just forgot her. I just feel like such a fucking idiot for doing this to myself.

>>12245334
>If this is about feeling left out by girls doing things without you being allowed to: you don't want to know how much better girls exclude fellow girls
my peer group is teenage girls. It's not so much as not being accepted (though there is that) it's more about discomfort with my body. Interpersonal dynamics have little to do with how deep my voice is or how high my hairline is

>I'd recommend getting a wife as soon as possible and making babies.
this seems like a very bad idea. If my problem doesn't go away (and judging by the amount of mid '40s transitioners, it doesn't) it'll only drag more people into it

>>>12245379
>If sounds like you were raised to think females better or more capable of doing things. You probably have issues with women more than you want to be one. You probably want respect attention and a woman who doesn't take those things away from you.
I was raised in an extremely patriarchal and misogynistic community

>>12245376
>I just feel like such a fucking idiot for doing this to myself.
If it makes you feel better, you absolutely deserve your fate.

>>12245376
couldnt you just skype her for a month, get a job and fly out to visit her

>>12245376
>I just feel like such a fucking idiot for doing this to myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQTbkEeCTeM

>>12245384
I’m well aware, that’s why I feel like such an idiot.

>>12245390
I’m planning to keep in contact, but I’m a student and visiting NZ from where I am is just not feasible, financially or due to commitments here. I think it’s just not meant to be. Right people, wrong time kind of affair. It just hurts to see someone you love fall through your fingers like that. Knowing it’s coming doesn’t make it any less painful.

>>12245405
Thanks for this anon

>>12245420
You're welcome man. I feel what you're going through. You're not an idiot. I'm sure she doesn't regret it either, and that she decided to fly out earlier actually shows how much she cares.

>>12245427
I think you’re right. Ultimately I’ll be able to look back on this as just another part of my life, and laugh. It hurts now, but in the end that will fade, and I’ll be left with a collection of beautiful memories.

>>12245438
Good attitude to have anon. You're gonna make it friend. Hope you have a merry Christmas. Working out might help you feel better

>>12245444
You too bro, god bless.

>>12245438
>Ultimately I’ll be able to look back on this as just another part of my life, and laugh
Definitely. I made the same mistake last year--started dating a girl I knew was moving away. Took me about a year before I could look back and see it as a pleasant memory, but it will happen

>>12245379
>Interpersonal dynamics have little to do with how deep my voice is or how high my hairline is
Think about that for a moment. I assume you don't want to be attractive to yourself.

> If my problem doesn't go away (and judging by the amount of mid '40s transitioners, it doesn't) it'll only drag more people into it
And you could get cancer when you have a family and they would be dragged into it, or a horrific accident or all kinds of things. What I'm hearing is that you assume transition would be worse than cancer, and your family would be upset. Keep in mind this would be a family you raised and loved and who love you back for you (ungendered) I mean, if you magically became the girl, would you not get married if you had a family history of dying at 50? Would you give up on having kids? You're using potentially transitioning in your later years (which you can warn your prospective wife about) as a reason to not have a family. Why the assumption that transition would be a deal breaker or terrible outrage to them? If you're planning on having kids biologically with a partner, regardless of the fact you could die, become disfigured, become broke, or the countless other stresses in a marriage and parenthood (including watching your kids get sick) why would transition be the block? You'd drag kids into existence in this world but you think they'd have too tough a time with transitioning to love you? You've already made them come into a world with chicken pox, they'll probably survive you putting on dresses. Just don't marry a cultic whacking who calls for killing all faggots or some shit and you're fine.

>>12245382
And in those, the way to prove your worth is respect and attention and a woman who won't take them away from you. Girls have inherent worth as baby makers and that's about it in that type of society, but it is inherent rather than earned. You won't get that inherent respect by transitioning because places that let you live and transition don't give women inherent worth as baby makers (though they still fight amongst themselves on that basis). You're not going to get treated like a girl in a patriarchal misogynistic society by transitioning, which is what you were jealous of them for.

>>12244465
i guess it´s time to move on, i`m attached to what i felt with her, but probably she doesn´t think about me at all. Or maybe she does and i`m a fucking coward who would let she get lost because i dont chat her.

did it right?

>>12245450
>You'd drag kids into existence in this world but you think they'd have too tough a time with transitioning to love you?
I wouldn't want to force a burden like that on someone. I already resent my father and I don't think I could deal with my (hypothetical) children feeling the same about me

>Keep in mind this would be a family you raised and loved and who love you back for you (ungendered)
People's love and acceptance is very conditional in my experience

>Think about that for a moment. I assume you don't want to be attractive to yourself.
I really don't know, blanchard would probably say that I do though.

>What I'm hearing is that you assume transition would be worse than cancer
If it is going to happen eventually, the regret of not doing it earlier seems like it would be worse than cancer. You can't really prevent cancer, at least I would have a choice in this matter and having to deal with the consequences and regret sound hellish to me

(PS, are you a psychiatrist or something?)

Should I do a PhD in History? I am about to graduate with my BA in History and go into a Master's program in the fall. Even if I do it, my ultimate goal is not a career in academia, I would do something like foreign service. The PhD in History would be useful for giving me credibility when I get around to writing down some stuff in my later years though.

>>12245472
I'm not still in that place. But I get what you mean

>You're not going to get treated like a girl in a patriarchal misogynistic society by transitioning, which is what you were jealous of them for.
maybe your on to something

Not to sound full of myself but I'm pretty sure I'm objectively the best person at roasting people on 4chan at this time in history.

I know it's a big accomplishment, and humility and perspective is key in life. But I immolate fools on here like I'm shooting fireballs from my fingertips.

The only time I get BTFO is when I fall on my own sword or when I decide a particular flame isn't to my taste.

>>12245344
I'm making the same mistake right now

We're in the middle of a conversation about how we wish we could be cuddling each other

>>12245505
What kind of history, anon?

>>12245540
>The only time I get BTFO is when I fall on my own sword or when I decide a particular flame isn't to my taste.
Like now?

my mother is a no good whore that most likely is cheating on my Dad rn and did before she left us. I hate women. They need to be put on leashes and fucked hard to be of any use. This board is filled with idiots. My head is hot. Can't think clear. That gun is so tempting not for myself only but to use on my Mother. God is ignoring me. All this physical head pain and dizziness and horrible eye pain and problems that makes me useless yet after 5 years, nothing. No improvement. Feel like I have a fever. There is no fun. The feeling is gone. Even the normal feeling of desire or lust is sapped. Greediness, happiness, everything on both sides of the spectrum is dulled and cut off. There's only unconscious worry, pain, embarassment, weakness, tears and far fantasies. I hope Christianity isn't a jewish plot or else I truly have nothing. Even all sexual desire is deadened.
Strange how similar pic related's mouth looks like a vagina doesn't it? Like God gave us a warning.

>>12245564
>Like God gave us a warning.

Well why did he make women the way that they are then? Seems like kind of a folly on his part.

>>12245545
You tried.

>>12245570
Have you ever considered the possibility that you just don't understand women? And if you did, you may have a better experience with them.

Could I have done better? Probably. Is that okay? Yeah.

>>12245570
>Adam and Eve are given free will.

>Eve gets seduced by fallen angel Satan, which also has free will.

>Adam and Eve banished out of beautiful easy mode life garden and arebpunished in other ways like painful childbirth and God putting enmity between women.

>Eve was the one who fell to temptation first through lucifer and Adam only through his wife.

>God makes woman vagina look like Satan's mouth as an eternal reminder

>>12244465


How ‘bout some notes from The Cringe Chronicles?

I’m 30, male, and a kissless virgin (inb4 gay, autistic, blah). I’m quite handsome in fact, and fit, and educated, and employed; I live alone. Sure, I have cracks and fissures like anybody else, but I do what needs doing in order to seal them, be that reading, writing, hiking, running, performing calisthenics, etc. As to why I’m a virgin? Dunno. I suppose my main excuse is that I don’t try; that is, I make zero attempts at visiting bars or joining the circus that is online dating. It is no matter. I find solitude quite calming, although I’d be lying if I said I haven’t felt the sting of loneliness during some nameless midnight.

>>12245540
no one who uses the word "fools" or "roasting" is good at making fun of someone
high tier criticism is just calling someone a dumb faggot or making fun of something extremely personal about them that they told you in good faith

also dont use this skill for evil even if you are good at it

>>12245621
here is the quick guide for joining a social circle and getting to fuck women from an anon who has fucked one girl

>write down five hobbies you enjoy
>if you cant, write down five hobbies that you think are nearby you
>look up groups for those and find something to go to at least once a weak
>example rock climbing, bjj, riding bikes, hiking, outdoor painting
>join and socialize

if you have a hard time talking to women
>build up confidence by talk to them about anything, weather etc
>use tinder, start small conversations and just get comfortable talking to them
>then use tinder and set up a coffee date

Mobius One, Deflect! Missile!

>>12244465
A world where pop culture had its roots in German expressionism instead of Jewish commercialism.

>>12245640

Thanks anon.

Presently I'm in several writing clubs. Hope to join some activity-based clubs soon and maybe even an improv course.

>>12245544
Intellectual history and philosophy of history. Not really a trendy subject nowadays.

>>12245665
good luck anon
i think youll be surprised of what your capable of. dont let your ego get in the way of who you are right now is who you are for the rest of your life

you're gonna make it friend

>>12245678
i meant to say you can become whoever you want to be and dont get stuck on who you are presently but it didnt come off great*

>>12245503
>I wouldn't want to force a burden like that on someone. I already resent my father and I don't think I could deal with my (hypothetical) children feeling the same about me
That's an interpersonal problem. It takes a lot for kids to resent their parents, barring the normal teenage growing pains, and most of them get over it. You're not your father and you shouldn't see transitioning as something which could destroy your offspring because you will teach that to your kids. If your dad came out and said I finally realised I'm queer would you resent him for being queer? A lot of people would resent more the years not talking about it, but to each their own.

>People's love and acceptance is very conditional in my experience
And your kids are going to be bigger bigots than the other people who will have problems with transition? They'll likely love you. A lot of what you expect of other people seems off base. Transitioning without a family might preclude you from having a family support system. It'll be harder to adopt and more costly to conceive. And I really can't emphasise enough, they might well love you and you love them. I'm hearing a lot of interpersonal relationships burning you and I think working out a way you could conceive of being loved by your family (whether the old one or a new one) and supported by friends is more important than your gender. Transitioning can seem more attractive because there is a built in community, especially if you're convinced people cannot love and accept you without transition. Sometimes cancer patients miss having cancer because they had a community when they had cancer. This is why I'm saying work on the other problems first, like feeling supported.
>I really don't know, blanchard would probably say that I do though
Bleh, my point is that having someone else be attracted to you, whether a partner or community, might underlie some of this. Women always say they do their make up for themselves, but it's bullshit. They do it for attention because it's the attention and attraction of others which they need for themselves. The make up is just how they get it. Very few of them are crazy enough to do it for themselves when nobody else will see.

1/2

>>12245503
>If it is going to happen eventually, the regret of not doing it earlier seems like it would be worse than cancer.
Plenty of people do it late, and I've never met one that regrets their kids either. The horror stories lgtb tells you about older transition ignores that plenty of women have alopecia or other hair problems, plenty of them are too amorphous to tell if that's fat rolls or breasts, plenty of them look completely different with their makeup off and some even have facial tattoos and birthmarks you never see. You can cosmetically change your appearance at any age, and women frequently do it at every age they can possibly afford.

And nobody on the internet is a doctor, but if you go to see one, I'd work on the nongendered stuff first. You don't feel insecure because you're male or female, it sounds like you have a tough time being secure and forming bonds. I'm more worried about that because it's soul crushing for any human to believe your family would be pained by your existence as whatever you are or become. I think a lot of that is still going to be a problem even if you start antiandrogens and estrogen and get free surgery tomorrow. It might seem like less of a problem because you get an instant community from transition, but basing your social acceptance in your transition is a very conditional form of love. You're probably loveable either way, but an instant community of other people with deep problems might seem tempting compared to the family you'd have to build because you are only afraid you'd fuck up the family and might feel they don't need your shit, while transitioners are already fucked up and won't be as likely to reject you. Acceptance is great, but being accepted solely because you're on a medical program with others is not the same thing as a personal bond for who you are besides your gender. And it sounds more like you need acceptance and security and love rather than implants, since that's what most people especially women need instead of implants.
2/2

>>12245690

No worries.

You're right that ego plays a big role. I thought I could potentially sever that vulgar abstraction form my life. Apparently not.

>>12244465
I'm excited lads, I finally saved up enough money for a two week trip to Spain. I'm very much excited since I get to be away from home and visit some of the many places I've read about in various history books on the Iberian peninsula itself. Hopefully all goes well

>>12245725
Wholesome, have fun anon!

>>12245698
>>12245703
Thanks for taking the time to write this out. It means a lot. Truly.

>You're not your father and you shouldn't see transitioning as something which could destroy your offspring because you will teach that to your kids. If your dad came out and said I finally realised I'm queer would you resent him for being queer? A lot of people would resent more the years not talking about it, but to each their own.
I mainly resent my father for forcing a very specific form of conservative chr*stianity on me and my siblings and feel like being a late transitioner would be forcing a belief on my children in a very similar way. It just seems hypocritical to do the same thing my dad did, and not learn from his mistakes.

>I'm hearing a lot of interpersonal relationships burning you and I think working out a way you could conceive of being loved by your family (whether the old one or a new one) and supported by friends is more important than your gender.
That's probably right, I'll definitely work on that

You don't feel insecure because you're male or female, it sounds like you have a tough time being secure and forming bonds. I'm more worried about that because it's soul crushing for any human to believe your family would be pained by your existence as whatever you are or become
>It is soul crushing, my parents said that Jesus and the bible are more important to them than me and they have plenty of friends that share that belief to back them up.

>Bleh, my point is that having someone else be attracted to you, whether a partner or community, might underlie some of this.
Why would I expect anyone to be attracted to someone that hates every fiber of their own being?

>You're probably loveable either way
I doubt that

>go on 2 dates with girl
>goes well
>End of second date I ask her if she's interested in me
>Says she is but she wasn't really looking for anything as she got out of a relationship not too long ago but she does like hanging out with me
>Say I understand
>Get home, get drunk. Text her that I like her a lot but understand where she's coming from, but if there's interest there on both sides perhaps we could try just taking it slow
>Thanks me for understanding and says she just doesn't want to jump into anything then suggests we go see a movie or something this weekend, says she'll text me when she's free

Fuck. I hate this paranoia I have. As if every moment she's just losing interest in me and solidifying a decision to not continue with me. Especially as the ball is in her court and she's supposed to be the one who texts me. And its annoying as well, taking a girl on 2 dates and paying for everything (i know, i know).
Yet it all became nothing. Everything, my bitterness towards life, my family. All my beliefs, all my time spent studying literature and philosophy, searching for something. My existential breakdowns as I tried to extract meaning from my life or look for what would fulfill my life and give me meaning. All my sadposts on /lit/. It was all reduced to nothing in a mere instant. As I told her a joke and made her laugh and smile, our eyes then met. And I felt a true warmth inside me that I haven't felt in so long. Like maybe I'm not hopeless and doomed. Probably sounds gay, but it was really a moment of clarity and happiness

>>12245811
you got proper cucked

>>12245811
:(

>>12245811
I swear to God if this is you Hector

>>12245811
>but she does like hanging out with me
> then suggests we go see a movie or something this weekend

That sounds fun. I wish I had somebody to hang out with.

>>12245796
You need to work on believing you're capable of being loved and loving. I think a lot of the stuff about gender is probably caught up in your upbringing and feelings about your father and former faith community, and you should disentangle those two problems. The way you were jealous of girls and the way you feel unloveable sounds like a problem from your religious childhood, and transitioning when you can't separate those two could make you act in ways that channel the gender roles of a community you no longer belong to but still haven't shrugged off the full burden of beliefs from. Some people with gender issues have them because being the other gender makes them feel safe, because they have seen violence perpetrated against their gender in various forms, or have seen their gender commit violence, and once they feel safe and can work past the trauma, don't need to protect themselves that way.

I'm not saying that's the case for you, but it does happen. Not all gender dysphoria is about wanting to be the other gender, because sometimes it's about not wanting to be a gender that has violence done to it, or not wanting to be a gender which creates violence. Not all doctors or trans groups check for that and some even pressure people to transition regardless because they fear late transition or being seen as not supporting things.

Some of this might be the gender roles in your community were strict and the basis of community, so you react in reference to them rather than the men and women you see now. It could be lots of things, but the working out how to feel safe loved and accepted parts really are more basic to mental health than if you decide to transition or not. It's pretty twisted to have your parents place their imaginary friend above their kid, and you probably should have someone to be angry about that with. (I say this as someone who believes in Jesus, why the fuck would you say that to your kid?)

I really hope you work out that you are loveable and can love others, anon. It's what all humans want and need to thrive. We've a storm coming in which will probably kill my internet and power so I can't do more for you, but I hope you do work on it because you deserve a way of feeling loved and secure. (Which doesn't involve selling your kids downriver for Jesus.) Good luck!

>>12245838
whos hector

>>12245912
Thank you anon, from the deepest depths of my heart.
Godspeed from this atheist

Going out of your way to try and be sincere only makes you more and more insincere and fake. Responding to cynicism and irony with a spiteful reversal does not make anything better.

I'm going to write a book where all the text is printed upside down so that anyone reading it in public will look like a moron.

>>12244762
>Michelstaedter
Where to start with him? Is anything translated into English?

>>12244935
That's it, thank you.

2023/12/18
Under 5 layers of overpass/underpass construct, homeless gather around flammable polymerase Beto effigy for warmth. Dry sewer spits out macrobeads from 50 feet into the precise center of the freeway. They coalesce into pools under the curb before flowing like eyeball into the grates. This is a 5th degree lower avenue, 7 knots below the first degree chain-level Avenue. The overpass system has been would into a nautilus function for maximum efficiency. AoE tollnodes pave every inch, despite the rarity of vehicles.

Coming to grips with my own manias has been one hell of a head trip. Sometimes I can get more things done in a short amount of time that it amazes people, other times I'm just acting with a sense of total impunity. I just want to throw myself at everything I do and believe in my abilities.

When I was a hormonal teenager this caused issues because my thinking wasn't developed on the issue, my parents were inept and making it worse and the environmental stressors were killing me.

As an adult however, I find I simply need to learn how to balance work and life, know what actions fit what contexts, get adequate rest, stay away from too much caffeine, doubt the veracity of my intuitions and actions, know when I'm allowed to stop , and basically be an adult. So I find I can control it and just be an effective individual much of the time.

I'm extremely dubious of much of the current literature and understanding of mania which simply views it in a pathological respect. A so called excitable person's behavior isn't manic if their behavior fits the context.

Mania is also deeply intertwined with sociological control and the objectivization of social boundaries. If you're just doing whatever you want to do in a public space, depending on what you do, you go against the grain and that instinctively agitates people. Manic individuals are nothing if not uninhibited.

The urge to turn on a heretic, to damn the unbeliever, is deeply engrained in all of us.

Of course if a person's behavior is violent or risks material public harm it should be prevented. Just going after someone because their thinking is too out of sync with the rest however, is a cultural madness. Madness and Civilization tier bs . A community or group auto-generating its own problems.

>>12244465
I'm up past my bedtime again.

What city is it that Pepe and Wojak are viewing? Or is it no particular city, and by extension, every city?

>>12244465
It might be the several glasses of bourbon I've had tonight, but I've just discovered Baratynsky and he's completely blowing my mind.

>>12246057
I have a hunch that it's either LA or somewhere in Japan.

You're going to fuck up, accept it, learn from it, and realize that any worthy pursuit in life involves endless trial and error, impostor syndrome, and accountability. Clay that isn't kneaded properly can't be molded into much of anything, now can it?

>>12244465
women do not have to moan when having sex and they are all faking it pulling the wool over our eyes WAKE UP SHEEPLE THE WOMENZ R NOT HUMAN.

>>12245075
can he beat you in a fight go

I can't find a book that really scratches my itch. Maybe I should try writing something myself. Is that why authors write in the first place?

It might be a fun thing to pass the time with, even if nobody else ever reads it.

I made holiday cookies for my friends. I enjoy baking and cooking in general and usually do it because I enjoy when others are happy. I kind of hate receiving gifts though as I feel I don't deserve them. A few days ago we were talking about gifts and people deserving them when I said, "you shouldn't have to deserve a gift." Slightly hypocritical on my part with my feelings towards myself, you know? I still have more to give this year and I will enjoy it. The hobby store I go to is having a Christmas party and I am baking cookies for it. I think it will be fun and I will partake in the festivities but since I dislike crowds I don't think I will stay long. Hopefully they will like the cookies though.

>>12246201
This whole post made me want one of those damn cookies. I need to stop being a big boy and go home to mommy for christmas.

>>12246201
>Hopefully they will like the cookies though.
They'll probably tell you they like them but behind your back they will make fun of how disgusting they are.

>>12246201
That's lovely anon. I like cooking stuff for people, too. It's the perfect gift imo.

If anything goes terribly wrong in your life you can simply kill yourself and all of your problems will go away.

>>12245045
It's a hard balance, anon. I've struggled a lot with trying to not be too meek around women while simultaneously not being too forward and creepy.

I think it's just practice.

>>12245811
You're overthinking it, man. Your self worth is not dependent upon having a long term gf. She seems to like you, and you seem to like her, and you seem to be having fun together. Keep doing that any maybe it will turn into something, and maybe it won't. Either way it will be a valuable experience and you'll learn a lot.

>>12246007
this made me smile, thanks anon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincar%C3%A9_conjecture
My mind is genuinely straining trying to understand any of this. I hope that feeling goes away eventually because despite the difficulty it's interesting, I didn't know 4D space was a real thing.

>>12246007
i need this in this timeline

im dumb lost all the money I spend the last months saving up, feeling like committing suicide. Normally I tell myself that it's the coward's way out and all that but I think I'm doing the world a favor. No matter how much I try and how much good work I do I always spiral out of control and ruin everything I've worked on. So i'm not being a coward, I'm just aking the world a better place. I really wanted to get my life together and find a nice woman and marry her and build a family but I can't honestly believe that to be a possiblity anymore.

I'm a drop out in my first year of community college, no friends, and a lot of anger and bitterness I just can't let go of. I'm either at school or working, and this next semester is going to be 6 days a week, 12 hours a day of constant activity. Half my paycheck is going to go towards school bills every month, and the rest is barely enough to cover utilities and bus fare.

My girlfriend is going to an elite private school, constantly going to lunches and shows and stuff (that her school pays for), has a decent amount of friends, and has lived a happy life. She's a year from graduating in a rigorous STEM field, and I feel like she's constantly doing cool stuff with her life and has a bright future ahead of her.

I'm just so poor and lonely and unhappy. She wants to get married, but I'm terrified that my life is ending before it even really got started, and now I'm just going to get absorbed into hers. I'm twenty two, and it seems like everyone around me has some sort of life they can call their own. Either they're graduating from school, working on a career, or at least they have something in the way of material possessions.

Sometimes I wonder about just walking into a bank and robbing the joint. I'm happy occasionally, but I never really feel that vital spark I used to have. If I had money I could at least take my girlfriend out someplace nice, go to bars and shows, maybe meet people, go to nice restaurants, etc. Almost every meal I eat comes out of a can these days. I can cook it alright, but just once I want something fresh, that someone else cooked.

I used to have dreams and aspirations, but those have been mostly crushed and now I just feel numb. Currently I'd like to knock my gf up so I can say I made some children, and join the army once I'm done CC. Things will be better once I'm making decent money, can shoot guns and travel a bit. Right now I'm looking at a year and a half of emptiness before that, and it feels bleak.

>>12246213

They are just sugar cookies. You can make them. The secret is butter.

>>12246216

You may be right. I wouldn't doubt it. I wish they would tell me though.

>>12246219

I enjoy sharing things I think I am good at. I would feel selfish if I did not.

>>12244985
>>12245046
>>12245078
>>12245152
>>12244953
>>12244920
Why don't we actually split NI from the UK and make Lizzie Queen of Ulster or Charles King? The republicans don't have to deal with Whitehall anymore and the prodies don't have to be part of a united ireland run by Dublin or is the economy of NI in such ruins that it would mean further economic collapse, even more violence and the final descent of NI into a post yugoslavia tier shithole?

Even now I fap thinking of the sex we used to have. I'm obsessed with her and yet it was me that finished things. I love my girlfriend but if she came back, drunk in my apartment at six in the morning like the bad old days. I know I'd end up cheating again. I want to message her when I'm drunk and tell her I love her. I feel sick.

Discolored pants
There is a pair of nice pants. I only recently began to wear it. But it's already discolored by sunlight. It's discolored because I left it in the laundry room of my parents' house under the sun during my NEET years. I can't pick it up back to my room because I couldn't go back to my room. Because back then I was running away from my desk, on which I stacked textbooks and homework I was supposed to work on.
I told myself I will pick it up the day I put myself together and walk out from the house and go back to school and graduate from it. But I only picked it up when I was about to be kicked out from the school.
Now I still live with my parents. I have cleaned my desk, and work an overqualified dead end job. I live a more structured and healthy life and know some colleagues from my job. I wear this pants to work sometimes. It's a pair of nice pants except for the discoloration.

I really hate Pepe the Frog. By far the ugliest cartoon I have ever seen.

>>12246956
Objectivly incorrect.
I really hate Google CAPTCHA. Normally use a pass but sometimes I use a new browser etc.

>ITT

I've been coughing so much I can't feel the left side of my throat.

I hate the job market. Employers are dumb jerks. I'm on my 4TH interview with a company...for a $35K sales job. Shit sucks.

>>12247016
Maybe you should see a doctor about that?

>>12246991
Nope, this is just normal /lit/ faggotry.

>>12244465
I did. God I wish agents would give my book a chance.

>>12247050
>>12247032

>>12247053
>>12247046

Spending so much time trying to figure out the perfect opening paragraph to my book that I'm not writing at all. Maybe I should just write some pandering trash if I ever want to make a career out of this fucking hobby of mine

>>12247032
all pain disappears eventually. Doctors are by and large con artists.

I now understand why the nigger nigs, the cause of his nogging eludes me but were such a problem to unravel itself in anything less than two titanic leaps into the abyss of noetic understanding I would be so disappointed id likely have to slay myself

>>12247079
holy shit this.

>working on book
>really try to make it something wrothwhile
>realize nobody will want it
>meanwhile pic related is published and I have been denied numerous times

>why live

Better yet

>why try

Anyone in the South Island want some free books?

>>12244841
How do you know that it's not you?

>>12245344
Pepehug.jpg

I wake up at 4:30am every morning with a stomach ache because I have to take a huge runny dump. I'm posting this from the toilet

I want to give somebody a hug and also be hugged.

>>12247186
I also want this pretty badly. Someone I could be romantic with though, friendly/familial hugs just don't do anything for me.

>>12245344
I'm so sorry anon. I had a similar experience recently. I fell for this girl who is going on study abroad next semester and I took too long to ask her out, so we only went on one date before she had to go back home. Frankly she was perfect in every sense.

>>12245505

>Even if I do it, my ultimate goal is not a career in academia

A thousand times no, then. If you don't want a career the degree unlocks, it's not even worth it funded. I did a PhD in History and it was absolutely not worth it. Read these, read them all.

100rsns DOT blogspot DOT co DOT uk

It's especially true that graduate students are rarely socially adept. I can't share specific stories because of doxing paranoia but just take how stupid and acerbic users of /lit/ are and imagine people doing that in real life. Year in, year out, being surrounded by people with whom an improved closeness means hearing about their mental health problems, going to shit parties, truly shit parties, to build that closeness. It is not worth it.

>>12244805
Scots are attached to the English dumb leave decision too. We voted to remain.

>>12247210
Thanks yeah I'm pretty decided now that I'm not going to do it. If I show this website to some of my friends they might actually kill themselves hmm

>>12247218

Good call.

haha I'm going to starve myself

I'm just dropping in but its really been bugging me recently. What the fuck is wrong with literary academia? Ive wanted to be an English professor my entire life, but this quarter I just couldnt handle it anymore and dropped out of school. Everything we studied was identity theories, it was just one class about race or sex stacked on another. I wanted to read books and have actual discussions, not just be forced to constantly repeat ideological bullshit. Every essay was just identifying who was supposedly oppressed and who was the oppressor in every book we read. I couldn't take it any more.

I dreamt of an intelligent, thoughtful, and interesting literary community in the higher forms of academia, and I dont know how to deal with the realization that its filled with such absolute trash. What happened? Are we fucked? What can we even do about it?

>>12247254
Humanities are a dying field, you can't make it any more by espousing a differing opinion, self-selection bias finishes the Job.

>>12247254
>What happened?
>2008: "The canon ought to include more diverse voices"
>2018: "Why the only ppl interested in the classics are right wing"

When does life get better?

>>12247254
You could try going to a better university, race and gender are rarely if ever discussed on my course, and when it is the essays related to it are always optional.

>>12244465
Man I'm thinking some really messed up shit right now, like if people could read my thoughts they'd probably run away screaming. Some people underestimate what I'm capable of, they just don't know. Then again, they underestimate just how patient I am. Sometimes I think I could really save humanity, other times I think I just might show them the dark grim truth that they're weak, the bottom of the food chain, how easily they can be destroyed. But I think it's better they find out for themselves, humans out there killing themselves off instead of helping one another...while I sit behind a rainy window looking on with a knowing smile...I warned them. But they're just too vain to listen. And so I whet my sword and dagger in wait for them to come to me in revenge, revenge on their once-friend who they turned their backs on, their prophet, their stoic... oh I'll be waiting. Blades don't need reloading.

I am so sexually clueless. Easily attract women but drive them away once they realise I'm a sperg. The only way I can communicate normally with them is literary discussion and none of them are literate

>>12246021
Persuasion and rhetoric, it's on libgen

>>12247342
holy cringe

>>12247506
course par

>>12247342
Based and redpilled

Depression post of the day.

Today I managed to get up and shave to go outside and renew my ID which expired two years ago. I had my passport mugshots taken at the local photo shop. I look worn out, and honestly quite old, but at least I managed a hint of a smile.

I took the bus to go uptown. There was a very attractive young girl in a black woolen coat who sat down in front of me to switch seats with an old lady. She resembled a young Christina Ricci and had the same doll-like, eerie beauty about her. She had large eyes and long, beautiful lashes, and straight dark hair that curled at the ends. She smiled at me as she sat down, awkwardly revealing braces that made her look even more youthful. Her long, pale fingers fidgeted with the cord of her earbuds.

On my way back I had breakfast and a coffee by the coffee shop near home. The barman asked me "how the comic book thing was going" and I told him that I wasn't doing that anymore. It must have been a very long time since I last went there. I also lied and told him I was looking for a regular job and had been working occasionally. He asked me what I had majored in as a refresher, and I told him I never got my degree. The conversation died there, thankfully. I just wanted to take my espresso, and did so in a hurry and without taste.
I'm afraid that the only place I have left is here at home.

>>12247540
I can tell you a great place to live where you would be happy, if you want.

>>12247540
based

>>12247546
Where?

I forgot the music. Here's some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkXet4WX_c
Sadly the other parts are gone

tfw finally got an idea for a novella but I'm too scared to write it.
I just think I'm subpar in pretty much every aspect.

>>12245811
She's sleeping with other people

>>12245330
My issue with anything that makes use of usernames is that there's always a handful of 15 year olds who have nothing else to do that monopolize and dumb down every conversation.

>>12245344
You shpuld take that story and turn it into a John Green inspired sappy YA novel, make bank and fly to NZ to surprise her and have your heart broken in person instead.

>>12247540
Look on the bright side, that barman still remembered who you were and what you were doing after all that time. How many people do you think he served since your last visit? Hundreds? Thousands?

>>12247694
Honestly I'd rather not be remembered at all, it makes me feel nervous and dejected. I always dodge being photographed as well. It's a relatively small town and I go out of my way to avoid being recognized. Thankfully I took some weight and I have short hair now, so I can walk past people I know without drawing attention.

>>12247725
Also it helps that ~10 years have passed since last time I saw almost anyone lol
The only chance I have to meet someone is at places like the dentist or public offices.

>>12247254
Try not going to a McCollege

Getting attention from women is more debilitating than any drug.

>>12244465
Set to make over $250 from my writings over the second half of December.

>>12247649
You don't even necessarily need usernames. Even in the anonymity of this website anons can develop familiarities and 'internet personas' from something as innocent and just recognising writing styles, to being fullblown avatarfagging. Extremely common in generals and it's usually what kills them. The 'anons' slowly replace the topic.

And don't even get me started on tripfags.

Living with a schizo drunk is annoying as fuck... especially when its your father

>>12247891
Yeah that's true. I used to frequent the "How's Your Webcomic?" threads on /co/ and they were completely taken over by a couple autistic namefags with terribly drawn porn comics who also samefagged while taking their trips off (which sometimes they forgot to do). Absolute cancer.

Does using a CPAP mask work?
If yes, how do you make it work?

Soda

if anyone wants to read some poor theory-fiction ill post some. (critique threads gone down-hill a bit)

>>12247465
try a more "performative" approach to women. treat everything you say like scripted dialogue. this helped for me. consider each action like youre seeing it from the audience, invested in the romantic scene youre witnessing. eventually it'll seem more "authentic" and "you" than just a 3rd person.
also: even if you are a sperg, if youre clever you can make it quaint and charming

>>12247635
it's better to write something that we could've done without, than to not write something which would've been worthwhile. the lack of good books is worse than the abundance of bad books. just write something, if it's shit -- it'll quickly be forgotten so it wont embarrass you.

>>12246893
NI has literally 0 fucking economy. if it wasnt for london hand-outs NI, wales and scotland would be 3rd world desu. there's a reason none of them want independence despite being horribly mistreated by england

>>12246680
do you know any algebraic topology?? try understand something a bit more elementary first.

>>12246245
unless what's wrong is an external fact of the world, rather than your perception of it. eg: if your problem is the death of a loved one, suicide wont help. if your problem is grief of a loved one, it will. remember, most peoples problems are about providing for their children, not being a lonely dweeb

>>12245640
i wouldnt recommend tinder for this guy -- it's basic setup is hypergamic hookup of the most superficial kind (i dont disparage it, it serves a purpose).

>>12245595
it's not women that caused original sin, but gender dichotomy itself. the utopia is rolling hills from coast to coast, over which skip immortal androgynous nymphs. it was adam's folly in wishing a unequal co-part.

>>12245564
forgive your mother, for your own sake.

>>12248011
>do you know any algebraic topology?? try understand something a bit more elementary first.
Heh, no, I just finished up with basic Integral Calculus. I'm a Computer Systems Engineering student but math is my favorite subject currently, and I find it actually gets easier as it moves away from the concrete like Physics and towards the more abstract, which is supposedly a good sign. I only came across the above when looking up what top mathematicians study. My uni actually does offer courses in things like Topology though, so I'll have a good chance in the future to explore more that way.

>>12248114
you need topology and group theory at least, not sure how much analysis is in ricci flow surgery. try understand something simpler like seifert–van kampen, or simplicial approximation theorem

>>12247971
It does not work, they've lowered the purity of the helium a few years back.

>>12248127
Not quite sure it's even something I've interested in, but the idea of Euclidian 4D space did catch my attention. I think I'll hit up the /sci/ wiki and check out some textbooks until I find something that sticks.

>>12248138
>>12247971
This. Now the cylinders have 20% oxygen. Don't do it anon, even when things are really bad there's always a reason to keep going.

>>12248138
>>12248146
The purity of the gas isn't a problem. Pure nitrogen tanks are easy to come by and work just as well. My only concern is if a CPAP mask would work and not cause lung trauma.

>>12247971
What makes you want to do this? I'll listen to you

>>12245912
you still there anon?

>>12248160
>My only concern is if a CPAP mask would work and not cause lung trauma.
I don't think people who were successful with it would be around to tell and why would you care about lung trauma anyway?

>>12247127
I don’t. But would it be agony if I was trying to be who I really am?

>>12244611
Christmas is around.
Suicide town. School is out.
Kids are out.

Don't dream of a morning. Wake up to a sunrise.

>>12244872
Who the fuck cares? Whether you type 4chan or 4channel, it'll redirect you to the website of the board you type into the address bar. It doesn't matter.

Huh...what!? My one shoe is missing! How do you lose one shoe? They are objects that are stored together at all times and always removed at the same time!

What?

I didn't throw it out the window. So where did it run off too?

Hmmmm. Hmm.

Nor can I wander about all day in search of it...

>>12244465
My career path's looking more like a hobby; the change of scenery didn't even help.
Having grown outta her pod, my girl wants "some space," but now I don't know where to orbit.
Motivation's finding itself harder to grasp: keep finding myself slipping off interests and away from old friends. Maybe I'll join the Peace Corp and bum around in the name of good. Let the culture shock shock my back to life.
Least my lifts are going well, and I got the handle of double bass rolls. This time next week I should be pulling 300 n hitting as many bpm.

>>12244611
this board is actually one of the few sfw successes outside of /an/ and /diy/

>>12248515
Quite the pickle indeed.

>>12248169
I'm back now, and power seems to be holding now it's back, so I should be around for a while.

>>12244465
Wondering if I'll find true love again

I don't like how dependent I am on my computer. I spend easily 90% of my waking life leaning back in my chair with my laptop propped up against my legs. I struggle to even read physical books anymore, though I can manage with ebooks (likely because it doesn't involve getting up from my lethargy and putting down the source of all of entertainment and parasocial interaction). I've been trying to stop using the internet, especially social media, as much, as I figure that's the main reason I'm addicted to the computer. This is my first time posting on 4chan in a few days, and I do feel slightly better I think. But I'm constantly BORED now, and I can't muster the will to do much of anything. Yesterday I managed to study a math book for _maybe_ an hour, the rest of the day I was either pacing around my house or watching videos (and videos are barely better than shitposting on 4chan). I did go to hang out with some people in the evening though, so that was a positive. It's a lot easier to force yourself out of your home when you don't have anything to do.

I hope I make it.

>>12248776
Thanks for last night, it really meant a lot to me

>>12247213
You also voted to remain in the UK so you've got nothing to whinge about

>>12249239
No problem, I hope whichever road you go works out for you.

>>12244465
I'm coming to understand that to progress in the professional world I need to work on seeming cuter, but not cutesy.

This is difficult for me...

Nobody who works in a building wants to hire someone who looks like he could mug them. But I don't mug people. Never had to.

Yet let's be true, looking and feeling like you could mug someone, metaphorically speaking, is a delightful place to be.

I'm so used to growing up being surrounded by people who frustrate and upset me. If I were to generalize that to the whole world and all the people in it, that would be a shame for me.

Unfortunately there are some madlads out there who do exactly that, and there's really no choice but to help them I should think.

>>12245127
Maybe all they want you to know is that when it comes to epistemology it is not an easy task to take a position so don't take it too seriously and just try to get a sense of what is said in these papers, the main concepts, issues, theories and postulates and that should do it.

The sign of a retard is believing that States act according to their interests, not ideologies.

>>12246893
>Why don't we actually split NI from the UK and make Lizzie Queen of Ulster or Charles King?
>Why don't we bring back the armed wing of Sinn Fein?
Because the problem isn't they hate Whitehall.

>>12246192

That's why I started making music.

What political ideology brings together a bit of nationalism, a bit of socialism (in the sense that big companies don't fuck everyone else for profit) plus a bit of ecological awareness?

>>12249953
KARA BOGA

an anon of /mu/ has called me retard FUCK.

>>12249953
generic sucdem
it won't because the state is an agent of capital

I hear your whisper in every breath
Even if clawing my own chest

>>12249968
It's ok anon, I've just been on /mu/ and I concluded they're completely clueless about music

>>12247325
Tomorrow

>>12249953
Reload a save Anon.

>>12245725
Spaniard here.
TIPS: Barcelona is overrated. Sevilla, Segovia, Granada, Madrid and the litlte villages of Cantabria and Galicia is where its at. (honourable mentions Caceres, Toledo, Cadiz and the big cities of Vasque Country)
Increasingly worry about your possesions being stolen while more down you are on the peninsula and in the big cities.
Dont eat in shitty tourist traps.
Dont expect good spanish use.

The last 4 days have confounded me more than any of the past 3 months since she broke up with me. We hung out nonstop from Friday night to Sunday morning. Sunday she called me after church crying. She dad seen another girl text me on Saturday and couldn't get over how jealous she was. She came over. We talked and fought. We argued more on Monday. We met face to face. Had a real heart to heart convo. Texted nonstop from when i left to 12am when we went to bed. Happy stuff. It reminded me of how we used to text till late at night in the beginning. We texted all morning too. I love her. I'm so confused.

>>12250246
have you been to avila?

The taste of coffee was warm and pleasant. I sat at my desk and listened to music through my headphones. The first song was too real, too close and personal. I skipped until I found something simple but bouncy that suited the summer mood I was trying to get myself into. A light breeze came through my window.

I flicked back to the first song and stared out the window, sipping my coffee. I tried to focus on the beat, then the lyrics, trying to figure out why the song had an effect on me. The singer's voice was soft, african american. She was singing about a failed relationship, where both partners tried to pretend that nothing was wrong, just so they could avoid ending things and not seeing each other anymore. The song's instrumental was sparse and vacant, the singer's words trailed off into nothingness at the end of every line.

My attention turned from the window back to my desk, and then around my room. I never noticed how empty it was. To me, it was always cluttered and messy, but when I looked around it now I noticed the space in between things. I didn't actually own that much, and what I did own was scattered and tucked neatly in corners and around the room's perimeter. I looked back at my desk as the song faded and another began. There really wasn't anything at all there etither, just my laptop which was sat squarely in the middle humming softly. and my phone, which lay screen-down beside it.

>>12250292
As a child but now i dont really remember. looking photos of it now there are so many cities and villages with fortress, castles and churches like Avila that i dont really know where i have been anymore. But if you want good cathedrals i would recommend better Leon, Burgos, Santiago de Compostela...

Bury my face in comic books, cause I don't want to look at nothing in this world is too much I swallowed all I could, if I could swallow a bottle of tylenol I would and end it for good and say good bye to Hollywood, I probably should 'cause these problems are piled all at once, cause everything that bothers me I got all bottled up I think I'm bottoming out but I'm not about to give up I gotta get up, thank god I got a little girl, now I'm a responsible father so not a lot of good I'd be to my daughter laying in the bottom of the mud, must be in my blood cause I don't know how to do it all I know is that I don't wanna follow in the footsteps of my dad 'cause I hate him so bad the worst feeling I had was growing up to be like his fucking ass, man if you could understand why I am the way that I am

>>12250390
What comic books are you reading?

I wrote this up nine hours ago, surprised we were down so long. I missed this place, never going back to the schizos on 8.

When you go searching for a new hobby with a mindset of "I need to fill this void in my life", you're setting yourself up for failure. I thought I could use philosophy in such a way that it would patch up this strange emptiness and make the lines converge on a point, but when it came to the material and I was asked to care about such alien things as a monad or the definition of justice, I realized the plan was flawed by definition. The great philosophers and astronomers and mathematicians all have one thing in common, and that's curiosity. I don't mean to be discouraging, though - we all have some natural amount of interest in the world around us, and with time it's possible to cultivate this seedling into a passion that may transform your life.

fix your fucking website Hiroyuki

>>12250633
m8 they had a scheduled maintenance warning up top, you could have read a book

>>12250633
I hope you guys weren't just mashing F5 all night waiting for it to come back. That would be embarrassing.

Finally my chatroom is back. Hello my gay friends. I'm gay.

>>12250643
hello

>>12245047
this is good advice

"Social cues are lost on him, he's oblivious."
"I think he's on the spectrum but no one has ever told him. I know he's been to therapists and doctors, why wouldn't they say anything?"
"He's so sensitive, they probably didn't want to point it out and risk an overreaction."
They had to know I could hear them, what were they doing? It must have been intentional. I try, goddammit, but I can't practice without making it worse. Those impressions and awkward moments stick and people talk, even the nicest people can't keep from talking about other people.

>>12248011
>NI has literally 0 fucking economy. if it wasnt for london hand-outs NI, wales and scotland would be 3rd world desu. there's a reason none of them want independence despite being horribly mistreated by england

How does the Irish free state do pretty well, it seems to have a similar situation resource and access wise? And couldn't Wales, Scotland, and either a united or divided Ireland hypothetically join some kind of Celtic Union to have support without needing to be Westminster's punching bag?

I wonder if professors ever feel really capable of teaching someone.
I get the impression I'll always have the feeling there's too much I don't know, so how could I really try to pass on wisdom?
I can't be sure there isn't some full genius refutation to everything I believe right around the corner just waiting for me to get to it.

>>12245344
I had a similar experience a couple of months ago, except I'm the one leaving.
The girl called it off a couple of days after I told her about it, which was probably the best thing to do.

>>12250725
The Irish free state hasn't existed since 1937. You mean the republic of Ireland. Celts don't get along with each other at all, and Ireland doesn't have much need to join a union. They are already linked by some language and cultural events, but while Scottish Manx and Irish speakers can understand each other, they cannot understand Welsh, and Welsh is probably the only still living one and will probably die too. Scotland also has sectarian problems which splitting off with NI would exacerbate in both countries exponentially more than just one of them would. Most of the Protestants in the Ulster plantation were Scottish, and the plantations imported enough of them to sway the overall population. They want to be part of the constitutional monarchy of England that gave them land, which starts with Cromwell. Irish people meanwhile started getting shot, deported and disenfranchised of land for supporting a Catholic absolute monarchy.
All the UK governed ones were industrial successes, apart from Ireland where plantation had not been successful in the other provinces. But this success was limited to industrial cities and the industrialists. With the decline of shipbuilding on the Clyde and Larne,Scotland and NI lost their major communications and industry links. Once Welsh coal was gone, it also stopped feeding into the empire's coffers like it used. Considering the empire was built on those things and the creation and evaporation of those industries caused a lot of the poverty and social problems and dependency of NI, Scotland, and Wales, that they want the empire they did belong to and paid for to pay them back and listen to them isn't surprising, especially among those who descended from the institution of a constitutional monarchy.

>>12250775
Yes, many of us feel capable. Students are much less clever than us.

>>12250817
Surprised there are any professors here. What is your subject?

>>12250797
Interesting thanks for the info, I know it probably sounds naive but I'm just totally unfamiliar. So that explains why there'd be no Union but why not individual independence? What about Wales or Scotland makes them less viable as sovereign countries than the Republic of Ireland?

>>12250817
>>12250775

I've been helping coteach some philosophy classes at the request of my undergrad advisor and holy shit from the other end it is just baffling how slowly students learn shit and how inane their questions are, but it also makes sense that starting from such a low bar you could teach them /something/.

>>12250355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcgUAy2INsk

>>12250643
I'm also gay. Pleased to meet you.

I would rather be you than love you, but the former is impossible so I'll settle for the latter. Maybe that's the way we always are.

>>12250535
Iron man

>>12250828
Ireland split off, so it had to develop. It stopped having to siphon its agricultural society's economy to England, and went more commie and national socialist than Trotsky or Stalin. They had Victorian and Edwardian infrastructure and tore a lot of it up or left it decline because it was British. They took over the school system with religious and nationalist propaganda, and made everyone get in it. They did the complete overhaul that nazis in Germany or commies in China did to their own countries. Because of that, they wound up building an independent intellectual economy which kept some of the benefits of Victorian industry and intellectual culture, but little of the dependence or withdrawal. During most of the existence of the state they have been very independent: Sinn Fein was originally the only party, and was Marxist but rejected all other Marxists because they thought Irish Marxism and Independence was not important enough for Trotsky or Stalin or Lenin to still be Marxist. They have also been poor for most of that period. However, like China and Russia, after about a century, they wound up with viable modern economies, which do not have the dependencies which monarchies got lumbered with after WW2, or the lingering dependency of economies which once fed the empire.

Essentially, because the empire pays them back somewhat but doesn't want to make them viable independently, and because you have to struggle for a while or sell out and become dependent to someone else to set up on your own, it's much easier for both sides to do just enough to maintain the relationship. Ireland only chose to struggle for decades because they were convinced they were singlehandedly neutrally going to bring about God inspired socialist utopia. To get a picture of how madly deep in a siege mentality they were, in 1939, due to world events, Ireland declared a state of emergency, whereby the government could use all powers to protect Irish *neutrality* and continuation of the state. They decided the Emergency (as WW2 was officially called as they never declared war but utter neutrality) was over in 1976, because, while they didn't need to issue sudden new laws after 1946, they gave it twenty years to make sure they didn't need it any more.

>>12250901
Sorry, thirty years. Brain fart.

Fart in the shart, like a kiss on the love letter.

>>12250835
>>12250817
I guess having practical contact with students might make those thoughts of mine vanish, from the looks of it.

>>12250817
from my experience this isn't the case
actually in a way i think >>12250775 is right, just not in the way he means. most uni professors and teachers in general are genuine wrong-thinking idiots

Theater – especially poetic theater, like the one of Shakespeare and Aeschylus – will never be important again and consumed by mass audiences. That makes me very sad.

>>12251022
What about after the inevitable nuclear war when we'll have to entertain ourselves without television or the internet.

>>12251022
we have cinema

>>12251044
>we have cinema

Yes, but it's not as verbal a medium as Theater. Poetic language in cinema sounds artificial, and you would hardly get aby budget to make films like that.

>>12251051
i don't think so. it's not as dramatic that's true (it's more narrative) but i think it's a better medium for poetry. actually i think if film had existed back then it's what shakespeare would've done.

>>12251103

If he was born today he would never become Shakespeare, that’s for sure, but is probable that he wouldn’t even get involved with the arts. All the people who say that he would be a great screenwriter or movie director fail to see that Shakespeare’s main talent was not of storytelling, but that of language, of poetry, of words. Movies and TV are much more dependent on the image than on the language, and the dialogue is mostly directed toward the realistic and the natural, and not the poetical and rhetoric. If you try to be poetic on this industry they will soon correct you with the red-pen of the cutting judge.

If Shakespeare was born today he would not even had the same education that he was submitted to in a Grammar School (that though mostly Latin, Greek, Rhetoric, Oratory, decoration of speeches from old poetry books and lots of figures of speech), so one wonders if he was even going to discover what his passion and talent really was. For all we know he might end up studying Law.

If Shakespeare was born today with the same genetics that enabled him to become the greatest poet of all time (and that by far, much superior to even Homer or Dante) he would lack, firstly, the education that would cut the rough stones of his talent and sculpt it into a diamond. Then, if he were led to pursue his dream of working with poetry, he would not find a proper theater to let his real talents flow. Books of poetry don’t sell, so he would hardly feel interested to pursue such goal. He might end up writing novels, but not with the same poetic exuberance he displayed in his plays. What’s more, since plots were not his strong suit, he would toil a lot to came up with ideas for novels, and the writing of it would take more time than the writing of plays. The result would be a smaller and less poetic corpus. Maybe some 10 novels, and none of them as poetic as the greatest of his plays.

>>12251134

If he ended up in Hollywood he would hardly be noticed, because his gift – as I already mentioned - was not one of creating interesting and original plots. He might try his hand at adapting books and novels to screenplays, but he would never be allowed to digress and let torrents of words to burst out of the brains and tongues of his characters (like I said before, he wouldn’t even have the training for that – Grammar Schools of the Elizabethan era were better at training one to become a poet than all the Ivy League Universities of today). The first director or reviser that eyed a “Shakespearean” script would cut most of it – “get your feet on the soil and take your head out of the clouds, kiddo” - and son Shakespeare was going to be satisfied (or forced to be satisfied) with the smaller levels of writing of a Billy Wilder and his partners, or a Paddy Chayefsky. Could he win Oscars? Yes. Would he be a genius? No.

The only way for Shakespeare to be Shakespeare on this time and age is for him to be born again in a world where his previews incarnation – Shakespeare 1 – had already existed. This new Shakespeare – Shakespeare 2 – would need to become obsessed with Shakespeare 1, and work his best to beat him in his own game, and that in spite of the fact that the poetic drama is totally out of Fashion today.

So let us imagine Shakespeare 2 as a boy who likes to read and write. He ends up discovering the works of Shakespeare 1 and falls in love with them. Here, he realizes, is one writer who is not afraid of excess and bombast and color and metaphors and similes. Here is one writer who is not infected by the mediocrity of restriction and simplicity of a Hemingway or the Elements of Style manual. Here is one writer who gives his all in his works, who is always trying to impress the playgoer and reader, always trying to show how smart and brilliant he is, always firing all his bullets. At the same time – let us imagine - Shakespeare 2 gets in contact with the current criticism of the day (Harold Bloom, etc) and learns that Shakespeare is considered the greatest writer of all time.

So Shakespeare 2, moved by his knowledge of his own talent to create metaphors and verbal fireworks, and spurred forward by an enormous ego and unfathomable confidence, decides – against all odds, against the fashion of the day, against the demands of the market, against the spirit of his own age and time, against the pain of not being easily recognized as other, much more mediocre writers are recognized – to become himself the number 1 writer of all time.

>>12251136

He studies all of Shakespeare’s works again and again and again, and also all the best criticism on him: on his use of verse, on his way of handling metaphors and figures of speech, on his uses of rhetoric, on his use of prose, on his construction of songs, on his uses of sources for the plays and the remodeling of the sources, on iambic pentameter, etc.

Only if a miracle like the one above was to happen would he have something like Shakespeare again. Now you people count the chances of something like that ever happen.

>>12251022
Mass audiences never consumed theater.

>>12251151
yeah they did

>>12251134
is this pasta? i didn't say if he was born today

I'm on the cusp of entering a job/career that I don't want to. The job is well-paid but I'm not sure if it's the direction I want my life to go. There is a lot of pressure on me (situational, financial, familial) to take the job. I'm feeling the anxiety of future regret. I'm 28 years old so there is plenty of life left I guess.

Any oldfags here with advice?

>>12251173
whats the job

Final bump to end the thread.

>>12251193
A programming job.

Things are so unclear at the moment. I think about the protestant work ethic a lot. I don't know if I want to go back to that place, but there is so much expectation for me to do so. Right now, I just want to start doing something great.

>>12250983
>most uni professors and teachers in general are genuine wrong-thinking idiots
Have you read any philosophy at all in your life? If so, go back and reread it.

I have a feeling that the 2020's are going to be a kickass decade. I feel like everything is building up.

There's a good chance something very fucked up may happen toward the 2020 US elections, and there's sure to be other fucked up shit going on in the world.

The change going on in technology however is going to outshine all of that and make it seem uninteresting and not worth committing to on a scale as bad as 20th century crises.

Maybe I'm wrong and things will just keep plodding along without any punctuated spikes in change. Theres an unresolved issue about what happens next that has never occurred before in history because the speed at which things are changing. That issue is going to work itself out eventually and it won't take long.

Some people rightfully don't want the whole world to change in a major and irreversible way, but there's this issue of a mass society and what to do with expanding billions of people that isn't going to go away but only get worse.

If poverty and population problems in the so called developing world continues unaddressed, the so called developed world will be overrun as people flee the vulnerability and danger of the Global South.

It's clear that the socioeconomic system has changed and that we can't use 20th century models for the emerging changes any more than 20th century economics over-relied on 19th.

It's also clear that short of a massive escalation of violence, the only way the developed world can save itself is if it begins to reconfigure and replicate success patterns in the countries that suck so bad that everyone wants to flee them.

Hint: it helps to not blow up countries ;)

Of course who the fuck wants to fix all the world's problems? Clearly it has to be a collective effort, and it is done ultimately out of rational self-preservation.

The logic of it has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia. It's just the logistical facts of the matter, the existing infrastructure and support systems in the developed world cannot geostrategically support a transplantation of the developing world's population.

Also, the majority of the people living in the so called developing world would prefer to stay in their homelands. It's their thing, they don't want to abandon it, and if they were forced to, they would be upset about it.