/lit/ - Literature

>>12116472
why are white men SO fucking superior

>>12116472
>grew up in poverty with abusive family
>work ass off in uni
>get into yale law
>complains that he doesn't fit in there
>says the american dream is dead

>>12116915
forgot join the marines

>>12116915
>the american dream
Is this the most pointless buzzphrase ever?

reading it now

Yeah, you’re right, that’s the exact kind of person who reads Hillbilly Elegy

>>12116474
Basically all nonwhites are uncreative NPCs.

>>12116472
>why are White men in competition for resources in the very country established for their posterity?

Really gets the old noggin' joggin'.

>>12117002
The American Dream is a Hollywood fabrication turned into an ignorant ethos for dealing with non-Americans who are motivated to come here by personal financial interests and nothing more, and who change the country in ways that make the existing population less comfortable and secure.
>>12117022
White men are in competition for resources in the country established for their posterity because capitalism-(neo)liberalism promotes people who don't care about white people to the top, allows them to import cheap labor and crowd the labor market, gives the poor no recourse, and then inundates them with propaganda to the point where they find the idea of pursuing recourse to be evil, and even then, justice for white people even with something insufficient like closing the border would be an uphill battle.

I make an intellectual post on bdsm and then there's this garbage. Am I threatening to you mods, you benevolent fathers?

>>12117192
Oh. I was going to reply to you, but the thread was deleted. Here's what I had typed.

"I do nofap for ascetic reasons and am interested in male chastity for sexual reasons (because of the porn I got into, not necessarily as a natural taste), but the two categories do intersect. I ordered a chastity cage once to see if it would help with nofap but my dick was too big for it. My first experience of masochism was my high school girlfriend biting my neck, which I enjoyed from a purely sensational standpoint that had nothing to do with asceticism."

I don't remember if I had anything else to say.

>>12117184
>capitalism-(neo)liberalism promotes people...

"Capitalism-nroliberalism" doesn't "promote" people or anything because it is not a living thing that makes decisions. It is, however, an abstract reflection of the people who make decisions. Anyone stupid enough to blame capitalism and other nonliving entities are socioeconomic schizophrenics.

>>12117208
the board is going away

>>12117214
>ideas aren't real

>>12117214
"Within the capitalist-neoliberal paradigm people who don't care about the white race are allowed by law and society to rise to positions of power and influence." is what I meant by that, although if English is your first language I don't actually believe you have good intentions with the criticism. It's hair splitting to contest me over a figure of speech.

>>12117265
You are completely not understanding what's going on or how these things work.

>Within the capitalist-neoliberal paradigm people who don't care about the white race are allowed by law and society to rise to positions of power and influence." is what I meant by that

And it is nonsensical and borderline schizophrenic that you would believe some abstract system is attacking white people. In reality the people making decisions about the inputs of the system and arranging it to work in their interests, are not white and are in fact the enemies of whites: jews. The arms of capitalism have been incentivized to work in the interests of the international jew and against the national and civilizational interests of whites. That is why we see this result. No system or economic model of resource-acquisition is attacking whites, jews are attacking whites; they are in control of the system and have engineered and international model of financial capitalism that promotes their interests and attacks white interests. But that is not some random thing, it is an engineered outcome.

This blaming of abstract things like capitalism is so ridiculous. It's not just you, it's very smart people who pride themselves on being logical and reasonable who buy into this totally absurd concept of some Frankenstein system because they're afraid to acknowledge the jewish question and get it through their heads that jews are a resource competitor who views whites as their enemy.

>>12117416
I include Jews in the category of "people who don't care about the white race". I also include people of every other race who don't care about the white race, including whites. The employer of the illegal alien who killed Molly Tibbetts in Iowa was a white Republican. You can bet other rich, ideologically capitalist whites are also shamelessly personally benefiting from illegal immigration at the expense of the white majority - I bet a large majority of them are white if there's any data. Even Dixie's rich whites were importing actual unpaid slave labor with no regard for the impoverishment of the poor white people that resulted. The fact that Jews were often the ones dealing in slaves doesn't change the fact that white people were buying them, and besides, Jews are always the middlemen - that way they don't have to do any real work. I'm fully aware of the heavy Jewish role in social trends that are inimical to the interests of whites. Raceless capitalism is a Judaic trend just as much as raceless communism. The anti-white Jew fears only spiritual conceptions of state that foster unity and social justice among a white people. The Jews can only exploit us because of our weakness, snobbish class pettiness, and division. Defeating the Jews requires strength, class co-operation, and unity. Simply naming the Jew is not enough if we have no idea what to do from there, and it's not productive to criticize me for not immediately ranting about them whenever the topic comes up.

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>>12117641
Pretty dang epic if you ask me.

>>12117633
>Raceless capitalism is a Judaic trend

I agree with your post and the above was my main point. It is not capitalism that is the problem, but this jewish version of it where whites are actually legally prohibited from advancing their own group interests and incentivized to sell their people out and destroyed their descendents future. Capitalism could also incentivize white births and pro-white hiring policies and the erection of an aesthetic and beautiful white imperium, but that is not happening but these jews are in charge and incentivizing it to advance their destructive internationalist agenda. But it does ultimately come down to people and who/whom, and has nothing to do with capitalism qua capitalism.

Hillbilly Elegy is literally about Appalachian Celtbloods being nigger tier though

>>12117015
What is "significant"? This chart is so meaningless lol you take european historic records and count how many europeans vs other nations were cited and use this as a meme for midwits

>>12118119
That's from a reputable book and it is a fact that Europeans have been responsible for nearly all innovation and achievements. Your attempted criticism has no substance.

>>12117849
Oh my god lmao is this how you actually think? Have you actually had any education on what capitalism means and implies? Im ok with people being pro-capitalism but its the funniest thing when brainlets think globalisation has nothing to do with the economic system and its cultural and social implications but are rather a plan by some ebic villain antity to destroy you personally

>>12118149
>a plan
Nobody said that. Jewish globalism is a reflection of the anti-national, stateless jews perpetuating it.

>>12118137
What reputable book? You dont need to look at anything outside of the words used to see this paper is unscientific. "Significance" by its definition is relative. To be significant ot has to be significant to someone specifically, its not quantifiable data that you can put on a graph and make claims. This is fundamental social sciences

>>12118177
Book titles are printed on the top right of the page. You are aware you're on a forum dedicated to the discussion of books, aren't you? How embarrassing that you should stumble into a thread and not only criticize a book you aren't familiar with, but be unaware that the title is literally right there. Pathetic.

Don't post on /lit/ anymore.

>>12118177
In capitalism the motiff is the reproduction of capital, whether you like it or not. Any sort of capitalism implies a division of labour, this is Smithian economics. The evolution of capital implies the growth of certain companies because of competition wich favours oligopolies and therefore raosong the workforce numbers for a single company. Communication technology implies the connection between world markets and the formation of global oligopolies. Global oligopolies imply an international division of labour (sweatshops in India vs offices in the US working for the same company) wich implies a generalised world economic dynamic and homogeinization of the global market wich in turn homogenizes culture. This is a simple thought process if you have any education in economics whatsoever. But whatever, poltards dont have any education or crotocal thinking skills

>>12117849
>>12117849
Yes, but whites were selling each other out long before Jews like Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, and the Neoconservatives were around creating a philosophy of capitalism that specifically and intentionally undermines racial identity. Not incentivizing behavior that harms the race is a good start, but it would be preferable to go further than that and actually punish the people who harm the race, adopting the view (and writing it into law) that doing harm to the race is a crime and an offense to the purpose of the state, which in part in my view is the security and improvement of the race. This goes against the idea of a free market. You could say it is a responsible market.

The kind of empires that capitalism builds are colonial empires, with the British Empire being the greatest. Nationalism won out in the end though.The United States is already a vast empire, but it's still pretty lacking in the beauty department - aside from the natural beauty. The architecture and public art has turned into rectangles and, in my city, abstract twisted metal "sculptures" taking up space.

If you don't know much about natsoc/fascist economics these videos are a good introduction:
https://youtu.be/ypj3UF2wTQQ
https://youtu.be/A7m6b1cyRyo
These are longer and more dense:
https://youtu.be/FsAIuAMjzsc
https://youtu.be/sTYvTj8Ss6g

Distributism and social credit are also anticapitalist, anticommunist economic ideas, but I don't know enough about them to recommend anything.

>>12118219
Meant to reply to >>12118174

>>12118200
Rhetorical bullshit with no substance whatsoever. This is what Ben Shapiro type youtube politics does to your brain

>>12118225
>whites were selling each other out long before Jews like Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, and the Neoconservatives were around creating a philosophy of capitalism that specifically and intentionally undermines racial identity

But jews were still often involved long before that as well. It's really a question of how far you want to go back. There were uprisings against jews who were selling whites into middle eastern slavery in France, and they incentivized the white elite to look the other way in a similar manner. One could also argue that the universalist jewish religion of Christianity was the original, non-particularist, identity-destroying ideology that led to our current deracinated state. That would be my take, but I think we're on the same page and I think you forwarded some good ideas about how to change this, by punishing people who harm or contribute to the harm of whites and white society.

>>12118219
You are describing what is happening now under the jewish capitalist system. If people like myself were in charge of the state that sets the policies and parameters the capitalist system would look much different. It comes down to who is in charge, and who in turn the model or system comes to reflect, which is dependent on whose interests that system is serving. There is no standard because people are different and have different interests.

>>12118243
wow you got him

>>12118373
Yeah, Jews seem to have an affinity for Arabs, probably because they're both Semitic peoples and Jews are naturally highly ethnocentric. You see it today with them favoring Muslim immigration. I agree that Jews are a problem, but I say that even if the Jews just magically disappeared or never existed, we would still have a lot of the problems we have today. Some of it stems from our openness and appreciation of meritocracy, which in the context in which we evolved were virtues, but are weaknesses when there are Jews trying to take advantage of them. I agree with you about Christianity being Jewish at it's root, but I think it's important to bear in mind that most white people couldn't read the bible throughout most of Christian history, and the people who relayed the bible to the masses at church probably de-emphasized a lot of the weird Jewish shit, so I wouldn't say that European Christianity is necessarily "more Jewish than European" if that makes sense. The actual understanding of the morality of Christianity has probably done us more harm than the religion did as regular people sort of filled in the blanks with their folk ethics and their natural spirituality. I'm kind of a pagan (haven't read most of the material yet, unfortunately), but I still think there is a lot of value in what white people turned Christianity into, and I think going to a white church would probably be a nice experience, especially if there's singing involved.

I'm glad you're in agreement with me on at least some of what I was saying now. These conversations often end up feeling like a waste of time.

>>12117002
It means arriving at success despite your circumstance and incidental characteristics. Making something more than what your means were.

>>12118394
What you fail to understand is that "policies" are not what rule the economic system. The government is a reflection and has to adapt to the needs of the economic production. The capital is the source of wealth and goods in capitalism, and therefore any kind of government indeppendent of intention is gonna have to concede to the needs of the economic production. In my explanation in no moment i talked about the will of any specific person within capitalism, but the natural development of capital reproduction. Oligopolies and global markets are a natural consequence of labour division when in contact with technology. Im following classical libertarian cancepts. In no moment I talked about policies or orms of government because in the end these are not the essential parts of the system. You thinking you can change the way capitalism works if only you were in charge of the government is extremely utopic and naive

>>12116472
That’s not what the book means though. It’s about the importance of supportive parenting and moral lifestyles. His mother is a terrible person but he is saved by the love of his grandmother and grandfather. It’s fundamentally a conservative book that argues that most poor people can’t be helped because they’re hopelessly mired in destructive lifestyles. It’s not really about race. His childhood is not far off from that experienced by poor blacks, particularly rural poor blacks. No where in the book does he argue that whites are oppressed.

>>12118200
lol you're so intelligent, white boy. What have you accomplished?

>>12117208
>my high school girlfriend biting my neck
Anon this is too h-hot, stop

>>12118635
>Im following classical libertarian cancepts.

And that's the problem. Libertarianism is no longer relevant, and it was never a realistic or workable model to begin with.

Because you are using that approach you are conceptualizing things in an abstract vacuum tainted by your white individualistic nature where:

>"policies" are not what rule the economic system
And
>policies or arms of government... are not the essential parts of the system.

When they are the fundamental organization that allows the perpetuation of any economic system.

>You thinking you can change the way capitalism works if only you were in charge of the government is extremely utopic and naive

Not in the slightest, and to the contrary, what is naive is that you think all people will perpetuate the same capitalist system when they don't perpetuate the same anything.

It is not capitalism that is the issue, it is the jews who are the issue, because the model the globalist model they are perpetuating is a reflection of them and works to attain their interests instead of those of whites.