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why is he so widely discussed in English and Anthro departments today but in Philosophy he has been disregarded?

>> No.11987329

someday we will all die

>> No.11987332

Probably cause you go to an analytic american college where philosophy education consists of a bit of logic, a bit of philosophical history beginning with Plato and ending with Kant, and a whole bunch of gay and pointless autistic analytic articles about pedantic issues like the trolley problem.

>> No.11987382

>"Zero is the body without organs of the Wolf-Man. If the unconscious knows nothing of negation, it is because there is nothing negative in the unconscious, only indefinite moves toward and away from zero, which does not at all ex- press lack but rather the positivity of the full body as support and prop (“for an afflux is necessary simply to signify the absence of intensity”). The wolves designate an intensity, a band of intensity, a threshold of in- tensity on the Wolf-Man’s body without organs. A dentist told the Wolf- Man that he “would soon lose all his teeth because of the violence of his bite”—and that his gums were pocked with pustules and little holes.4 Jaw as high intensity, teeth as low intensity, and pustular gums as approach to zero. The wolf, as the instantaneous apprehension of a multiplicity in a given region, is not a representative, a substitute, but an I feel. I feel myself becoming a wolf, one wolf among others, on the edge of the pack. A cry of anguish, the only one Freud hears: Help me not become wolf (or the opposite, Help me not fail in this becoming). It is not a question of representation: don’t think for a minute that it has to do with believ- ing oneself a wolf, representing oneself as a wolf. The wolf, wolves, are intensities, speeds, temperatures, nondecomposable variable distances. A swarming, a wolfing. Who could ever believe that the anal machine bears no relation to the wolf machine, or that the two are only linked by an Oedipal apparatus, by the all-too-human figure of the Father? For in the end the anus also expresses an intensity, in this case the approach to zero of a distance that cannot be decomposed without its elements changing in nature. A field of anuses, just like a pack of wolves. Does not the child, on the periphery, hold onto the wolves by his anus?"
yeah wow why does no one take him seriously

>> No.11987404

>>11987325
It's fashionable nonsense that enables funding of academic fields without any grounding in the rational or the empirical, but further the political agenda of the dark forces working to destroy Western Civilization (aka Jews).

>> No.11987413

>>11987332
>the trolley problem
Omg I hate analytic moral philosophy

Sure do logic and philosophy of language, but don’t come with these ridiculous fucking problems and base the whole field on them holy shit

>> No.11987434
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>>11987404
>fashionable nonsense
>destroy western civilization
>jews

>> No.11987447

>>11987434
A B S O L U T E L Y R E F U T E D

>> No.11987466

>>11987404
>without any grounding in the rational or the empirical,
Just skimming his bio, I disagree. If he was so influenced by Hume and Nietzsche I'd guess he is one of the more materialist Frenchmen.

>> No.11987471

>>11987325
Because he’s a fucking hack. The only French philosophers of the 60s/70s worth reading are Baudrillard, Debord and - most importantly - Clouscard.

>> No.11987487

>>11987471
>"louscard
Oh man, why couldn't he have been the new meme instead of Deleuzetional

>> No.11987504

>>11987471
Baudrillard is a good sociologist but his writing style is shakey and evasive. Not a hack but definitely a con artist.

>> No.11987506

>>11987466
>Just skimming his bio, I disagree.

Such rigor, such genius. How can I compete?

>> No.11987508

>>11987487
I don’t think his works have been translated in English which is too bad because he literally BTFO’d /pol/tards who think Capitalism is compatible with traditional values. I hate those retards so much.

>> No.11987510

>>11987471
>Baudrillard, Debord, Clouscard
You mean Houellebecq-gang?

>> No.11987516

>>11987510
More like Nazbol-gang.

>> No.11987525

>>11987471
>The only French philosophers of the 60s/70s worth reading are Baudrillard, Debord and - most importantly - Clouscard.
Got excited for a minute there until I realised Clouscard never moved past Marxism like Baudrillard did. Fuck off back to >>>/pol/ or whatever the leftist version is.

>> No.11987540

>>11987506
From your summary, you didn't read him either. At least I am honest about, that's how I perfected the art of skimming and meta reading.

>> No.11987561

>>11987525
He’s worth reading because his critique of late capitalism is absolutely flawless. I’m not a Marxist myself.

>> No.11987562

>>11987516
Nazbolism with houellebecqian boomer abolitionist characteristics

Also forgetting my boy Jean Claude Michea

>> No.11987563

>>11987508
There are plenty of others who make the same case available in English like Lasch, Ellul, Bolton, and Dugin that are certainly gaining influence over /pol/tard thought.

>> No.11987594

>>11987562
Michéa and Pierre Legendre are great too.

>> No.11987608

>>11987516
How the FUCK do you read Debord and Baudrillard and arrive at NazBol? I'm not familiar with Clouscard but I'll assume you're doing a shit reading of him as well.

>> No.11987618

>>11987608
Maybe he has them confused with Benoist and Venner?

>> No.11987629

>>11987618
But isn't Benoist some type of crazy monarchist?

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>>11987608
they're broadly anti-liberationist/progressivist and already appropiated by third positionist think tanks

>> No.11987701

>>11987608
I can agree and see the relevance of a concept without following blindly the intellectual who theorized it. I’m not a Nazbol, anyway, I was just joking.

>> No.11987714

>>11987629
No, he's hard to pin down, but I'd call him a Pan-European Federalist.

>> No.11987758

>>11987447
>claims to be rational and empirical.
>Here, refute my retarded conspiracy theory about jews and pseudoscience about white supremacy.

>> No.11987766

>>11987608
You don't, you start out being indoctrinated in the cult of far-rightism, and adapt the work to conform to your worldview.

>> No.11987777

>>11987766
>hurr durr nuances are forbidden
>you must submit yourself to a dogma

>> No.11987785

literature, anthropology, sociology etc are generally the only place that "post-structuralists" "post-modernists", "post-marxists" etc get taken seriously in anglophone universities and its been that way for 2 decades.

lol @ cunts enrolling in philosophy expecting to read deleuze or politics expecting to read zizek and so on and so forth.

kek @ chantards enrolling in politics expecting to get self-righteously indignant about the variants of marxism getting "shoved down their throats"

>> No.11987839

>>11987758
I never said I was rational or empirical. In fact, I'm an anti-rational idealist. If you were capable of thinking, what I was clearly stating is those attributes were necessary criteria for participation within those fields of academia. Completely not controversial.

If you're not ready to accept the corrosive effects of world jewry on our civilization, then so be it. I'm not going to shove it down your throat, but nor will I pretend it doesn't exist for the sake of decorum.

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>>11987508
>>11987563
Uncle Ted did it in just one paragraph.

>> No.11988131

>>11988110
Sure, by plagiarizing Ellul.

>> No.11988158

>>11988131
Who gives a shit? Ted admits it, and he doesn't give a shit either.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s8C52ON4mw

>> No.11988173

>>11987382
wouldnt the wolfs be the organs tho

>> No.11988196

Philosophy and Psych hate literary materialist analysis, esp if it has anything to do with Freud.

>> No.11988211

>>11988196
For good reason. Nietzsche and Schopenhauer were the more important psychoanalysts.

>> No.11988240

>>11987332
yeah, I fucking hate my phil department. At least there's one genuinely amazing prof. But the analytic academic journal shit they push is so fucking boring dude. It's actually making me hate philosophy.

>> No.11988255

>>11987839
>I'm an anti-rational idealist
You're a troubled boy with moderately high intelligence whose worldview is dominated by his mental illness.
Seek help, Anon. The further you dig yourself in self-certainty by creating a mental bubble to confirm your delusions, the harder it will be to come back.

>> No.11988392

>>11988196
Deleuze didnt like Freud

>> No.11988421

>>11987413
>>11988240
>>11987332
I know this feel fellas. Starting to get real tired of having to read boring ass essays about epistemic justification and theories of persistence

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>>11987785
>tfw you fell for the meme
I guess analytic philosophy is cool, r-right???????

>> No.11988450

Phil departments are too effeminate and sedentary to handle nomadic warmachines

>> No.11988472

>>11987766
high iq take

>>11987777
high iq quads, low iq poster

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>>11987839

>world jewry

Get off my board, fascist freak.

>> No.11988679

philosophy departments are usually garbage

>> No.11988685

>>11988477
cringe

>> No.11988787

>>11987332
holy fuck you described my dept verbatim

>> No.11988815

Anthro department is more based than I thought it was desu taking a class and we are.readimg Peirce now

>> No.11989053

>>11988679
>>11988450
>>11988787
>>11987332
>>11987413
>t. plebs who thought philosophy was going to be literary criticism+cool French guys who smoked cigarettes and thought pedophilia should be legal

>> No.11989374

>>11988392
What? He loved Freud. I read Anti-Oedipus in its entirety.

>> No.11989531

>>11988477
Lol, found the shabbos goy.

>> No.11990547

>>11987329
Fpbp given how shit this thread is. Makes you wonder how /lit/ ever has decent threads.