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Society as a whole for not recognizing that after the sacrifice of Christ we are all responsible for one-another's morality.

>>11985394
So you read Aloysha as some edifying paragon, whose good example should be followed by everyone? How do you suppose people would go about managing this universal moral responsibility?

Smerdyakov

>>11985367
Dosttoyvesky

>>11985418

>>11985403
Well, to be more precise I read Alyosha as a Christ-figure who by his example would have (in the later books) shown the faults in society as perceived by Dostoevsky. Obviously, it is not clear whether the later books would have chronicled Alyosha's corruption or his spiritual strength in the face of adversity, nor if they would have given a complete teleology of how the achieve the desired end of all being responsible for one-another, but I think that the kernel is definitely there in the first book. There is also the suggestion, in the character of Zosima, that the expression of this moral end does not necessarily require complete abdication of things like sensuality (the man loves his sweets), but rather taking a radical stance against social structures (such as duels) that move people further away from the pervasive love of Christ.

>>11985425
Alyosha believes it why shouldn't I?

>>11985367
Ivan even tho Smedyakov did it

Mitya (as was decided in court by Gods will)

>>11985440
You're definitely on to something. Aloyshas edifying relationship to Kolya (who is a little like a younger Ivan), definitely shows that Dosto believed in the possibility of Christian Phillia as an antidote to the lack of moral responsibility.

I, however, still don't believe Dosto was blaming society as a whole.

>>11985448
Because of his cowardice or because of his intention?

>>11985465
because he is gay

>>11985465
Both i feel, i cringed at that conversation with serdykov just before he left.

>>11985367
You.

fyodor pavlovich for being dumb enough to get himself killed

>>11985922
This. One less drunken bastard; who cares?