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Name one thing that is healthy.
You can't.

>>11851141
Who said it ever was?

>>11851141
Certainly not on 4chan.org

>>11851141
If it helps you deal with things, then yeah.

>>11851147
An affectionate childhood

>>11851149
Freud believes it’s necessary to our existence to allieviate pain/conflict, doesn’t this imply escapism acts as a healthy outlet for us?

>>11851141
Does any other species indulge in escapist behavior? Are humans the only ones?

>>11851233
Dolphins probably fantasize they are a black guy when they are fucking other dolphins.

Not because they have bigger dicks but because they can’t swim, which means they get to engage in something none of them could ever do, as one of them.

Fucking dolphins are really fucked up, Holy shit.

Fuck you racist dolphins, fuck you.

>>11851221
In moderation of course it's healthy, but like pretty much anything, it becomes unhealthy in excess

>>11851221
Isn’t it more like, Freud sees escapism as an inherent reality? It’s not a matter of choice, we’re all subject to it.

>>11851298
No, I think he would actually be an advocate for it. But in the early 20th century sense, like reading a book or painting a landscape. I have no idea what he’d think of the internet.

>>11851233
Probably, but I wonder whether they are genuinely conscious of that behavior. I’d have doubts. Humans are probably the only ones who consciously escape reality. Perhaps ‘escapism’ is the result of cognisance towards the pain and suffering around us.

>>11851141
Depends

>>11851141
Don't fall to the hybris and it'll be okay.

>>11851167
I'm sure you can find a culture somewhere in history that didn't value this as healthy, like the Vikings or whatever.

>>11851147
wild boar hunting

naked

except for cross-trainers and a cricket bat

find a flaw

>>11851936
yes, people have believed all sorts of things. why did you even make that post? It's meaningless

just calling it "escapism" is already setting up the argument so that no one can ever say that it's healthy. Is running away from reality ever healthy? Oh no now we have to wring our hands; the jews have changed the words again!

It's reading a book. Yes, it's healthy, because it's pleasurable. And I'm sure there are various other reasons. Now please fuck off

>>11852005
Health differs from culture to culture and from individual to individual when it comes to the mind and spirit.

>>11851141
are cocaine, cigars and psychoanalysis healthy?

>nope
>but we roll like that in vienna

>>11851141
yeah except it’s the only thing that drives us. escaping from shit. it’s our sole and main motivator

>>11852021
that's not true. why are you even giving them that much respect? they wouldn't do the same. they'd fucking rape you dude... and it's a good thing they stopped doing that, because that was objectively wrong.

>>11852029
that's not true. people do things for all sorts of reasons. it's not just running away. There's a carrot, as well as a stick. Many carrots, actually

>>11852030
>why are you even giving them that much respect?
I'm not. I don't even agree with what >>11851147 said, it is definitely possible to name something that is healthy. But the reverse implication of that post was that you could name an objectively healthy thing, and that isn't possible. Which relates to the subject of the thread at a fundamental level.

>>11852043
food is healthy

no, but alcohol is, it dissolves the super-ego.

>>11851147
>Name one thing that is healthy.
Sex

>>11852108
No, fasting is healthy. Food is something unhealthy we indulge in when we're failing at fasting.

Living isn't even necessarily healthy, as one could consider the best state of well-being not being.

>>11852117
Gross animal carnality which ruins the self. Normalizes the HARMFUL act of procreation. Very unhealthy.

This is all bullshit, but you've got to understand that health is a social value.

>>11852139
Incel detected

>>11852139
>as one could consider the best state of well-being not being.

>>11852015
Well Freud doesn’t call it escapism, nevertheless he advocates for it.

>>11851936
So what? We’re talking contemporarily right now, from a 21st century western perspective. OP didn’t ask for a historical interpretation of health.

>>11852108
It isn't past a certain point of eating. Same with water, same with anything. And then you have food allergies and conditions which can make certain foods entirely unhealthy for certain people.

>>11852139

>>11851147
vegetables?

>>11851147
Sleep

>>11851141
What do you mean by escapism?
Anything that miscontrues the reality of your situation?

Anon, entire human civilization is escapism from the true reality of existence. Do you think the flowing society we have created has been healthy for man?

>>11852863
Misconstrue? That’s not right at all. Escapism is the act of deliberate distraction from the burdens of reality.

>>11852884
The burdens of reality? Or the burdens that you yourself put on yourself.

>>11852117
Sex may legitimately kill you due to transmissionable viruses.

>>11852903
No, the burdens of reality. Comprehending life and death is actually quite scary for most people.

>>11853044
But isnt that still people placing burdens on themselves? It really is up to the individual to be constrained by the notions of "life and death". People may believe that their problems stem from things outside of their control, and to a certain extemt that may be true.. but only true in wheb you adhere to a life of attachment - attachment to past, future, to the things you want, to things that you lose.

You dont have to be upset with the things that happen to you, though some people compusively do become upset.

>>11851147
Drinking water to replenish lost body fluids

>>11851280
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t. Dolphin slaughtering nip
Hey there dolphins have organized rape and like to help humans so they are based. Also reddit spacing

>>11851141
all good things in moderation

>>11851147
death

>>11852139
>Gross animal carnality which ruins the self

>>11854266
Death is just a fact

>>11853125
What anon? The essence of man is his struggle to understand the self and the world that surrounds him. That is the result of consciousness. It cannot he turned off.

>>11851141
It depends

>>11851141
You can't really answer that question, it depends entirely on the context of what you're ignoring/trying to escape from and what you're doing to ignore/escape with. If for instance you read a book to get your mind off of a stressful situation you have no control over, I would say that is not unhealthy.

>>11854583
*implying that a coherent self exists*

>>11851141
If you rely on it to bring you happiness, then real life just becomes worse than it actually is, so no.