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11840287 No.11840287 [Reply] [Original]

These are the big six for Russia. Who are the big six for other countries?

I will start with US. See if you disagree. If you do then please offer alternatives.

>Whitman
>Dickinson
>Twain
>Melville
>Emerson
>Faulkner
Honorary mentions: Poe, Frost, Hemingway and Stevens

>> No.11840299

I would take out Emerson, and switch him for someone else. Maybe Poe.

>> No.11840317

>>11840287
>Dostoevsky
Cute, gonna put Ian Flemming on the English list?

>> No.11840324

>>11840287
Poland

Szymborska
Dukaj
Masłowska
Tokarczuk
Sienkiewicz
Kochanoski

a żeromski kurwom jest

>> No.11840325

>>11840317
I'm afraid there really isn't any other way to say this: you're a stupid cunt.

>> No.11840330

English -

Chaucer
Shakespeare
Milton
Blake
Austen
Orwell

>> No.11840331

>>11840324
>Tokarczuk
XD

>> No.11840337

>>11840331
zajebało wykopem

>> No.11840344

LIMEYLAND
>Shakespeare
>Chaucer
>Milton
>Dickens
>Austen
>Wordsworth

>> No.11840346

>>11840287
Why no Nathaniel Hawthorne?

>> No.11840356

>>11840287
>These are the big six for Russia.
Perhaps it was meant to be the big six for the 19th century in Russia. Actually if we're listing great writers or geniuses, my country needs 6 ranks per century.
>t. frenchman

>> No.11840359

>Africa
Gib Mesomadat
Ayowe Wuzfaroes
E. Wus Gudboie
Werdawy Twimunat
Bicksun Ood, Esq.
Shaka'inma Damedfam

>> No.11840361

>>11840299
This. I'd also swap Whitman for Hemingway

>> No.11840366

>>11840287
Ireland

Samuel Beckett
W.B. Yeats
James Joyce
Oscar Wilde
Bernard Shaw

Honourable mention to Heaney and Swift

>> No.11840374

>>11840361
>Hemingway
No.

>> No.11840383

>>11840366
Oh shit add Heaney

>> No.11840386
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>>11840359
>country
>”Africa”

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Australia

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>> No.11840391

>>11840386
We are one motherland. The whiteman has divided us. Rise up, my brother.

>> No.11840402

>>11840366
I feel like you're missing someone but I can't place my finger on it. Anyway, I would give Bram Stoker an honorable mention.

>> No.11840410

>>11840299
Poe definitely belongs in the top 6.

>> No.11840416

>>11840366
dayum, Ireland is quite based.

>>11840359
why no Coatzee?

>> No.11840427

>>11840330
>Austen and Orwell
>no Eliot, Keats, Byron, Shelley

>> No.11840433

>>11840366
Sterne my nigga

>> No.11840436

>>11840287
Italy

>Boccaccio
>Petrarca
>Dante
>Manzoni
>Tasso
>Leopardi

But I can see people naming Calvino, Verga or even Pirandello instead of Tasso.

>> No.11840439

>>11840427
Eliot's American by birth, and those three stink compared to Blake

>> No.11840443
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>>11840324
>Szymborska
>Tokarczuk
>Sienkiewicz

>> No.11840447

>>11840337
Tokarczuk to grafomanka. Dlaczego uważasz ją za jedną z najlepszych? To, że pisze progresywne rzeczy (feminizm głównie) nie świadczy o byciu dobrym pisarzem.

>> No.11840456

poles gtfo stop shitting up the thread

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>>11840330
>Orwell

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>>11840390
Get fucked you Yankee-doodle scum, it's people like you that keep our literature industry down.

Patrick White
Miles Franklin
Richard Flanagan
Thomas Keneally
Kim Scott
Marcus Clarke

Since this board seems to struggle with Aust Lit, here are some honourable mentions: Richard Flanagan, Peter Carey, David Malouf, Tim Winton (even if it's popular to hate him right now), Randolph Stow, Ruth Park, Ion Idriess, Bryce Courtenay, Neville Schute, Maxine Beneba Clarke, Gail Jones, and our national poets, Banjo Patterson and Henry Lawson.

Get reading fuckos.

>> No.11840475

>>11840468
Ignore that Richard Flanagan is there twice

He won the Man Booker for 2014 ffs.

>> No.11840477

>>11840468
all shit
>Tim Winton
lmao

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>>11840287
excuse you motherfucker

>> No.11840481

>>11840436
no Eco?

>> No.11840486

>>11840477
you're wrong though.

>> No.11840491

>>11840468
All Irish

Hmmm

>> No.11840495

>>11840486
I'm not really. You can name six who are mediocre at best, but you're absolutely deluded if you think we've produced a single work of note in Australian history.

We're good at playing sport and writing music, nothing else.

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11840498

>>11840468
>Banjo Patterson
is that a real name or did you just make this up. also your whole list is a bunch of literal whos

>> No.11840501

>>11840330
>no Carlyle
You stupid kike

>> No.11840502

>>11840481
Don't get me wrong I love the man but at the same time I didn't feel like leaving out the fathers.
It's subjective.

>> No.11840503

>>11840468
>Banjo Patterson

smdh...

>> No.11840507

>>11840447
a po chuj chochoły nakurwiasz?

>>11840443
Szymborska jest bazowa, panie kolego

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>>11840498
https://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/paterson-a-b-banjo/the-man-from-snowy-river-0001004

>> No.11840511

>>11840507
Możesz jakoś uzasadnić Tokarczuk czy tylko odbijasz piłeczke jak debil?

>> No.11840513

>>11840324
lista z dupy, brakuje chociażby Kosińskiego

>> No.11840519

>>11840498
>Banjo Patterson is a literal who
I've never heard of the rest but everyone down under has heard of BP, even if they dont know his work. I think hes the waltzing Matilda bloke, which was gonna be our national anthem

>> No.11840524

>>11840511
jest żydówką i jest SJW. To wystarcza, żeby była najlepsza. A teraz wracaj na swoją ulubioną stronę.

>> No.11840525

México
>Rulfo
>Fuentes
>Paz
>Pacheco
>De la Cruz
>Reyes

>> No.11840528

>>11840519
did you skip year 12?
you can't write a proper sentence on a fucking literature board mate

also
>Australians knowing a man is enough to not make him a literal who

>> No.11840532

>>11840508
Cringing at the Australian nation rn

>> No.11840533

>>11840507
Nie mówię, że jest zła, ale ten Nobel to trochu z dupy był, bo wypadało po Upadku Bloku wschodniego wyróżnić kogos z Europy srodkowo-wschodniej i fajnie, żeby była to kobieta. Nie chcąc jej umniejszać.
Sienka bym szczerze mówiąc na Prusa zamienił. I gdzie jest k... Lem?

>> No.11840539

>>11840513
TO
>>11840524
I potem taki jełop sie uważa za intelektualistę wielkiego. Normalnie bym przyjebał słysząc twoj piskliwy głosik.

>> No.11840549

>>11840287
>>11840299
I would swap Emerson for Pynchon unironically

>> No.11840551

>>11840356
fuck off

>> No.11840556

>>11840374
good point

>> No.11840561

>>11840528
What's wrong with my sentence? English isn't compulsory for year 12 anyway.

>> No.11840564

>>11840525
>>Rulfo
>>Fuentes
>>Paz
>>Pacheco
>>De la Cruz
>>Reyes
Give me reccs, son.

>> No.11840575

>>11840503
Oh come on, The Man From Snowy River isn't that bad.

>>11840498
>the thread purpose is to state who the national authors are
>Australia is a country with poor representation in global literature
>Every country that isn't the United States, Britain, France, Spain, Germany, Russia, or Ireland is going to have literal whos because of their lower representation in the canon.

>>11840495
>mediocre at best
I fucking challenge you to read Voss, For the Term of His Natural Life, That Deadman Dance, Schindler's Ark, The True History of the Kelly Gang, Oscar and Lucinda, The Merry-go-round by the Sea, The Harp in the South and The Death of a River Guide and say that. Also I gave you a degree's worth of literature, there is no way that you've read all of it and judged it shit unless you are a proffessor in an Australian university.

>>11840491
This is not fact

>> No.11840578

>>11840561
I like how you went to great effort for this post, proving that I HAVE gotten under YOUR skin

now YOU are DESPERATELY trying to save face

it has NOT worked

it will NOT work

all YOU have managed is to appear even MORE pathetic in front of EVERYONE

I look forward to your furious reply, which I will NOT be reading

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>>11840578

>> No.11840586

>>11840575
Australians are cringeworthy

>>11840578
This is pretty based

>> No.11840597

>>11840578
I dont really get it lol this is how I type when I'm on my phone why would I bother with grammer. Poetic license anyway bro

>> No.11840598

>>11840586
your ignorance is cringe worthy

>> No.11840604

>>11840468
Holy crackers I love you wacky aussies

>> No.11840612

>>11840468
I read The Narrow Road to the Deep North recently and it was shit
I won't be reading anything else by anyone you've recommended as a result.

>> No.11840613

>>11840502
Still, Calvino over Eco?

Sure, Calvino basically popularised metafiction, and maybe I'm missing something in the translation of his work.

>> No.11840614

>>11840436
Buzzati is also based
Italy is really underrated in literature

>> No.11840620

>>11840578
based fucking Matt

>> No.11840622

>Tokarczuk won booker award and is the best polish candidate for a literature nobel
>but she said nazism is bad so her books are automatically bad according to polish incels

garncarstwo

>> No.11840623

>>11840436
>Verga
literally "dick" in spanish

>> No.11840625

>>11840612
>read one book
> all of australian literature is crap
Would you do this to American or British lit

you're a fucking philistine, you know it, and are trying to damage control

>> No.11840630

>>11840622
>awards are the only measure of being good

>> No.11840634

>>11840625
I just don't value your opinion, simple as

>> No.11840641

>>11840578
Holy mother of BASED

>> No.11840643

>>11840634
Ergo, philistine, prove me wrong.

>> No.11840646 [DELETED] 

>>11840643
okay mate
*bends over*
*farts in your face*

>> No.11840649

>>11840564
>Pecheco
I'd take Ibargüengoitia any day over Pacheco.

>> No.11840651

>>11840287
Le frogs
>Montaigne
>Moliere
>Voltaire
>Flaubert
>Baudelaire
>Proust
Honorary mentions: Hugo, Rimbaud, Zola, Rancine.

>> No.11840656

>>11840578
Matt is absolutely fucking based

>> No.11840661

>>11840578
BASED post of the year.

>> No.11840665

Why are Australians gay & cringepilled?

>> No.11840669

>>11840578
OH NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

>> No.11840670

Persia
>Ferdowsi
>Hafez
>Saadi
>Rumi
>Attar
>Khayyam

>> No.11840672

>>11840578
BTFO
T
F
O

>> No.11840674

>>11840578
>mattposting outside of /sp/

wew lad

>> No.11840678

>>11840630
>being "redpilled" is the only measure of being good

naprawiłem dla cię

>> No.11840683

>>11840672
>>11840669
>>11840661
>>11840656
>>11840656
>>11840641
>>11840620
>>11840586
>>11840665
Calling samefag and extreme autism

>> No.11840686

>>11840683
Cringe

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>>11840683
busted

>> No.11840691

>>11840686
prove wrong

>> No.11840693

>>11840678
Zauważ, że nigdzie nie wspomniałem o byciu 'redpilled'. Jestem tak lewacki jak sie tylko da ale wiem kiedy czytam tendencyjny chłam. Jej powieści są po prostu słabe.

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>>11840691
cringe

>> No.11840695

>>11840683
CRINGE and BLUEPILLED

>> No.11840701
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YOU CUNTS HAVE RUINED MY THREAD.

>> No.11840710

>>11840613
>maybe I'm missing something in the translation of his work.
It has nothing to do with that.
Eco is well respected and influenced a generation of writers, on the other hand Calvino is a national pride and the first love of many young readers.

>> No.11840712

Australian subhumans exposed and humiliated yet again lmaooo

>> No.11840713

>>11840287
>Dickinson
LOL
Robert Penn Warren deserves the spot over her.

>> No.11840717
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11840717

Southern United States

Mitchell
Faulkner
Toole
Twain
Tennessee Williams
O’Connner

>> No.11840719

>>11840683
Shut the fuck up poof

>> No.11840720

>>11840330
>>11840344
Pope and Spenser

>> No.11840729

>>11840693
>i'm actually a leftist

ZA KAŻDYM JEBANYM RAZEM

>> No.11840737

>>11840729
Ale bym cie kopal po twarzy za takie zjebane odpowiedzi.

>> No.11840740

>>11840717
Robert Penn Warren dude!!! I’d also put Katherine Anne Porter or Eudora Welty over Mitchell. Poe is also technically southern

>> No.11840745

>>11840578
BASED

>> No.11840751

>>11840737
jak kurczaka?

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>>11840713
>Robert Penn Warren

>> No.11840779

>>11840720
Both are trash, unfortunately.

>> No.11840782

>>11840779
If you’re retarded, yes.
>>11840775
So you haven’t read his poetry or his best novels?

>> No.11840795

>>11840782
>So you haven’t read his poetry or his best novels?
Quote me a single line from any of his garbage that is on the level of any of those writers.

>> No.11840839

Grillparzer
Nestroy
Stifter
(Rilke)
Hofmannsthal
Musil
Bernhard

>> No.11840856

>>11840795
Yikes...

“If there were no wind we might, we think, hear
The earth grind on its axis, or history
Drip in darkness like a leaking pipe in the cellar”

“If I could pluck
Out of the dark that whirled
Over the hoarse line over the rock
Out of the mist that furled
Could I stretch for like God the hand and gather
For you my mother
If I could pluck
Against the dry essential of tomorrow
To lay upon the breast that gave me suck
Out of the dark the dark and swollen orchid of this sorrow.”

“I don’t love you less that now
The caged heart makes iron stroke,
Or less that all that light once gave
The graduate dark should now revoke.

We live in time so little time
And we learn all so painfully,
That we may spare this hour’s term
To practice for eternity.”

I’ll continue:

>> No.11840858

Belgium:
Streuvels
Claus
Boon
Elsschot
Buysse
Gezelle

>> No.11840892

>>11840856
“And think, as you move past our age that grudges and grieves,
How eyes, purged of envy, will follow your sunlit chance.
Eyes will brighten to follow your brightness and dwindle of distance.
From privacy of fate, eyes will follow, as though from the shadow of leaves.”

“And so I say:
Brother, Rebuker, my Philosopher past all
Casuistry, will you be with me when
I arrive and leave my own cart of junk
Unfended from the storm of starlight and
The howl, like wind, of the world’s monstrous blessedness,
To enter, by a bare field, a shack unlit?
Entering into that darkness to fumble
My way to a place to lie down, but holding,
I trust, in my hand, a name—
Like a shell, a dry flower, a worn stone, a toy—merely
A hard-won something that may, while Time
Backward unblooms out of time toward peace, utter
It’s small, sober, and inestimable
Glow, trophy of truth.

Can I see Arcturus from where I stand?”

>> No.11840904

>>11840775
He’s the greatest American poet of the 20th century by a country mile

>> No.11840908

>>11840287
Honestly I'd pull Melville for Hemingway. Moby Dick is THE American epic but Melville was really a one-hit wonder.

>> No.11840921

>>11840908
Terrible opinion

>> No.11840923

>>11840908
>Melville was really a one-hit wonder.
Billy Budd

>> No.11840930

>>11840287
Replace Emerson with Henry James

>> No.11840933

>>11840908
leave and never return

>> No.11840936

>France
Now I'll only name contemporary geniuses, none of these old hacks

Onfray
Musso
Zemmour
Tarik de PNL
Celine
Cohn-Bendit

>> No.11840941

>>11840649
I'd change Reyes for Gorostiza and at least add Pitol as a honorable mention.

>> No.11840954

>>11840930
This is a good choice

>> No.11840985

Have we done Scotland yet?
Robert Burns
Walter Scott
David Hume
Robert Louis Stevenson
James Boswell
Adam Smith

>> No.11840998

>>11840985
Cringe

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Croatia only has this guy, hut he's one of the best.

>> No.11841011

>>11840985
>Stevenson
>Hume
>Walter Scott
not that bad actually, you're missing Arthur Conan Doyle and Macpherson though

>> No.11841012

>>11840985
would Conan Doyle not be among the top 6 ? just asking, don't know much about scottish writers.

>> No.11841022

Spain:
Unamuno
Cervantes
Calderón de la Barca
Quevedo
García Lorca
Torrente Ballester

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>>11840985
>forgetting the GOAT

>> No.11841081

>>11840324
Poland

>Mickiewicz
>Słowacki
>Krasiński
>Kochanowski
>Sienkiewicz
>Wyspiański
>Reymont

Maybe also Krasicki, Żeromski, Prus, and Norwid

>> No.11841082

>>11840330
Orwell standing next to Milton, are you having a fucking laugh mate? You fucking cunt. I bet you is a northerner too.

>> No.11841106

>>11840519
>everyone down under
well there's your problem mate

>> No.11841118

>>11840856
>>11840892
This is really bad.

>> No.11841127

>>11840651
>no Diderot
>no Stendhal
>no Marquis de Sade
>no Balzac
otherwise pretty tight

>>11840936
My drunk marxist Uncle could do better bait than that pal

>> No.11841159

>>11841118
You’re wrong and that’s okay. Two Pulitzer Prizes for poetry and one for fiction back when the award still meant something. Stay mad and read more.

>> No.11841204

>>11840856
What fucking dreck. Imagine calling yourself a poet and having this much of a tin ear. This is just chock full of:
>If there were no wind we might, we think, hear
Turgid rhythm,
> like a leaking pipe in the cellar
labored imagery
>history/Drip in darkness
and uninspired histrionics

And that's just the first stanza. Really poor stuff.

>> No.11841241

Scotland

>Hume
>Smith
>Salmond
>Haggis
>Ferguson
>Heroin

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>>11841241
>Haggis
>Heroin

kek

>> No.11841327

>>11841204
You’re just flat out wrong mate. You won’t find a single critic who agrees that Warren is a bad poet.

>> No.11841332

>>11840287
Man that is a stacked fucking roster.
If we're doing crew battles no other country comes remotely close to Russia's top end

>> No.11841339

>>11841332
England dominates Russia’s top end. As do Greece and Rome.

>> No.11841346

>>11840287
Argentina, from best to worst:

>Borges
>Marechal
>Laiseca
>Cortázar
>Juan José Saer
>Arlt

>> No.11841354

>>11841022
Change Torrente Ballester for Pérez Galdós and that's it.

>> No.11841356

>>11841332
>If we're doing crew battles no other country comes remotely close to Russia's top end
Homer
Sophocles
Euripides
Herodotus
Plato
Thucydides

>> No.11841363

>>11841356
Okay I'll give you that one but it feels like you're cheating somehow

>> No.11841371

>>11841346
goddamn that’s stacked

>> No.11841381

>>11841356
Aeschylus
Aristotle
Heraclitus
Parmenides
Hesiod
Epicurus

>> No.11841386

>>11841327
>You won’t find a single critic
Who gives a shit. If that is the best you can come up with then he's just not very good. Not a good line or idea throughout.

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>>11841159
>Two Pulitzer Prizes for poetry and one for fiction
HE WUN DE PRIZE HE MOOST B GUD

>> No.11841423

>>11840436
If you were to rate them by difficulty(overall: grammar, style...), how'd you rank them?

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>>11841356
>>11841363
>>11841381
>mfw Athens in the 4th and 3rd century BC outstrips 99% of all countries in their entire history

>> No.11841452

>>11841082
mate northerners have more soul than any fucking landan pissant.
Austen is good, not great.

English (fixed)

Chaucer
Shakespeare
Emily Bronte
Thomas Hardy
W. Somerset Maugham
Coleridge

>> No.11841462

>>11840468
>a commonwealth country being this devoid of literary talent

>> No.11841471

>>11841423
>Dante
>Tasso
>Petrarca
>Boccaccio
>Leopardi
>Manzoni
>Everyone else (Calvino, Eco, PIrandello...)

>> No.11841479

>>11840468
Aussies more American than Americans?

>> No.11841484

>Brazil

Machado de Assis
Jorge Amado
João Guimarães Rosa
Lima Barreto
Carlos Drummond de Andrade
Graciliano Ramos

>> No.11841812

>>11841010

>Krleža
>Marinković
>Marulić
>Držić
>Kozarac (obojica)
>Nehajev

>> No.11841856

>Nobody did germany yet
Where are all the german posters?

>> No.11841925

>>11841471
thanks, appreciate it

>> No.11841967

>>11841386
>>11841403
Embarrassing. Either read his work or fuck off. Appeals to authority are fine responses to non-criticism from would-be polemicists. Get owned niggers!

>> No.11841972

>>11841010
Krleža?

>> No.11841973

>>11841452
Christ mate get the bottom four off of that list.

>> No.11842005

Dante
Petrarca
Leopardi
Pirandello
Montale
Pascoli

>> No.11842007

>>11841856
Wolfram von Eschenbach
Kant
Goethe
Schiller
Heine
Mann

>> No.11842008

>>11841066
Haha this guy is great

>> No.11842014

>>11841022
Is this bait?
-Cervantes
-Calderón
-Lope de Vega
-Baltasar Gracián
-Góngora
-Bequer

>> No.11842069

> DENMARK

Kirkegård
Pontoppidan
Brandes
H.C Andersen
Mollehave

>> No.11842112

>>11840287

Melville and Emerson both owe a considerable debt to Nathaniel Hawthorne. I'd replace Emerson with Hawthorne.

>> No.11842143

>>11840578
I don't remember the last time I laughed out loud this hard. Absolutely based and redpilled.

>> No.11842164

>>11840324
>Tokarczuk
>Dukaj
>"Kochanoski"
Jesus Christ.

>> No.11842179

>>11840330
Replace Orwell with Wordsworth

>> No.11842207

>>11842069
Couldn't think of a sixth?

>> No.11842854

>>11840468
>>11840508
>>11840575
Hahahahaha Australia isn't a real country. Hahahahaha it doesn't have any legitimate high culture or meaningful history and it's just a derivative anglo / western outpost in the middle of nowhere. Hahahahaha literally if you took a bunch of working class Brits and stuck them in a desert you would get Australia hahahahaha.

>> No.11843024

>>11841967
I read his work and it is shit.

>> No.11843030

>>11842112
Hawthorne is boring though

>> No.11843036

>>11840436
Verga lol

>> No.11843039

>>11841967
>Appeals to authority are fine
No.

>Get owned niggers!
>look momma I said nigger online!

>> No.11843053

>>11843030
Have you read his short stories, specifically Ethan Brand?

>> No.11843064

>>11843053
Yes

>> No.11843080

>Tagore
>Iqbal
>Adi Shankara
>Gautama Buddha
>Meer
>Ghalib

>> No.11843096

>>11843064
Hawthorne also had a pretty big influence on Lovecraft through his novel The House of the Seven Gables. If we are talking about literary giants I think Hawthorne is definetly one of them.

>> No.11843128

>>11840578
Shut up you literal chink

>> No.11843133

>>11843080
Is Tagore really that big of a deal over there? I have a little collection of his writings about mysticism, it's called The Religion of Man, and there is a poem at the beginning that I really love. I never really further researched him though

>> No.11843149

>>11843133
I can't speak Tagore's native language, so I've only read him in translation. His work is amazing. And in Bengal, he's bigger than anyone else.

Just to show his influence - the national anthems of both Bangladesh and India were taken from his works.

>> No.11843155

>>11843149
how would you suggest researching him? just plunge into a poetry collection or something?

>> No.11843170

>>11843155
for example here is a collection with an introduction by Yeats, who seems to have sort of idolized him
http://www.spiritualbee.com/media/gitanjali-by-tagore.pdf

>> No.11843176

>>11843155
Start with his most famous work, gitanjali. Foreword by Yeats in my edition.

>> No.11843184

>>11843176
>>11843170
lol.

here is the poem of his that's in my book that I like so much btw:

The eternal Dream
Is borne on the wings of ageless Light
that rends the veil of the vague
and goes across time
weaving ceaseless patterns of Being.

The mystery remains dumb,
the meaning of this pilgrimage,
the endless adventure of existence
whose rush along the sky
flames up into innumerable rings of paths,
till at last knowledge gleams out from the dusk
in the infinity of human spirit,
and in that dim lighted dawn
she speechlessly gazes through the break in the mist
at the vision of Life and of Love
rising from the tumult of profound pain and joy.

>> No.11843217

>>11840904
Lowell is way better faggot

>> No.11843229

>>11842854
as an australian, this is true

>> No.11843232

>>11840344
high IQ take

>> No.11843262

>>11841010
No Antun Gustav Matoš?

>> No.11843305

>>11843217
>they don't choose Stevens
>they don't choose Crane
>they don't choose Frost or Eliot
>or Williams
>or Pound
>they go to bat for Lowell and Penn Warren
>a crybaby nutjob and a pretentious hick
If you're gonna be edgy just choose Roethke and be done with it.

>> No.11843385

>>11843305
I think
>lowell is way better
means to say
>even lowell is way better
which is true, warrenanon probably just finished writing/gargling his warrenthesis

>> No.11843530

>>11840287
Brazil

Machado de Assis
Carlos Drummond de Andrade
Castro Alves
Gonçalves Dias
Jorge Amado
Mário de Andrade

>> No.11843679

>>11840330
Orwell #1 fuck the haters

>> No.11843688

>>11843679
How is "Homage to Catalonia"? How does it compare to his most well known works (Animal Farm and 1984).

>> No.11843689

>>11843688
not as good as "A Clergyman's Daughter"

seriously, fuck the haters

>> No.11843700

>>11840330
>no Rowling
try again

>> No.11843707

>>11843689
I'll check that one out, I don't see that work recommended often.

>> No.11843728

>>11843707
there is one section which is painfully drawn out (you'll know it instantly when you find it), but the transformation of the main character from start to finish is very well done

>> No.11843750

>>11843728
I read the Wikipedia article and it is kinda sad to see how Orwell disowned this story.

>> No.11843765

>>11843750
yeah, I don't really understand why, it's solid

>> No.11843816

>>11843679
Greatest essayist of the Twentieth century. Definitely in the top ten English writers, anyone who says otherwise is a pseud.

>> No.11843862

-Castelao
-Rosalía de Castro
-Cunqueiro
-Curros Enríquez
-Celso Emilio Ferrreiro
-Alfonso X

>> No.11843869

>>11843816
there does seem to be this hipster type element on /lit/ that hates him just because he is popular. it's sad

>> No.11843876

>>11843039
>>11841403
You're just appealing to yourself though.

>> No.11843916

>>11840468
>yankee-doodle scum
Watch the friendly fire there, croc.

>> No.11843950

The anglos have it the hardest so I've split it up
>poets
Chaucer
Spenser
Shakespeare
Milton
Wordsworth
Keats

>Novelists
Austen
Bronte
Dickens
Eliot
Conrad
Woolf

>essayists
Bacon
Browne
Johnson
Hazlitt
Ruskin
Orwell


>Jocks
Walter Scott
James Hogg
Robert Burns
George Macdonald
Thomas Carlyle
Louis Stevenson
Grassic Gibbon


>Micks
Swift
Bernard Shaw
Wilde
Yeats
Joyce
Beckett

>sheepshaggers
Daniel Owen
Caradoc Evans
David Jones
Dylan Thomas
RS Thomas
Raymond Williams

>> No.11843981

>>11843950
that poets roster is stacked

>> No.11843991

>>11840359
kek

>> No.11844015

>>11843991
I can't believe I didn't get that post until now.

>> No.11844041

Czech
>Jaroslav Hašek
>Franz Kafka
>Karel Čapek
>Bohumil Hrabal
>Jaroslav Seifert
>Milan Kundera

>> No.11844052

>>11843862
What the fuck is Alfonso doing there, put either Ramon Piñeiro or Eduardo Pondal

>> No.11844054

>>11840359
Underrated

>> No.11844077

>Canada
No clue desu :DDDDD

>> No.11844081

>>11843950
>Grassic Gibbon
Based

>> No.11844111

>>11843950
>>11840330
>>>11840344
>Austen

I really hope you guys aren't actually Brits, Austen isn't a bad writer by any stretch, but she's not top ten material, let alone top 6, replace her with Emily Bronte if you feel you MUST include a vagina writer.

>>11840287
Replace Emerson with Hawthorne, Hemingway or Poe. I'd choose Poe, inaugurated several new genres of fiction, is read and loved to this day, and was a good poet as well. Emerson is more "important" than great. Fitzgerald is probably our greatest prose stylist but he really needed themes other than a gifted, driven man being destroyed by a bitch goddess to be great.

>> No.11844158

Henrik Ibsen
Knut Hamsun
Arne Garborg
Alfred Hauge
Andre Bjerke
Cant really decide on a 6th but kys if you suggest Knausgård

>> No.11844181

>>11844041
>no Grete Reiner
Why?

>> No.11844197

>>11844158
Sigrid Undset

>> No.11844198

>>11844077
>Margaret Atwood
>Lobster B Peterson
>
>
>
>

>> No.11844200

England: real talk edition
Chaucer
Shakespeare
Milton
Pope
Keats
Dickens

>> No.11844205

>>11844198
Leonard Cohen?

>> No.11844207

>>11844200
But what have they done recently?

>> No.11844217

Germany
>Hans Jakob Christoffel von Grimmelshausen
>Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>Johann Christoph Friedrich Schiller
>Jacob Ludwig Carl Grimm
>Wilhelm Carl Grimm
>Adolf Hitler

>> No.11844249

>>11844181
As far I see, she was mostly translator.

>> No.11844287

>>11844249
right, forgive me, I forgot who wrote The Good Soldier Svejk for a moment there and googled the author...
I'm dumb.

Good book though.

>> No.11844299

>>11840858

Correction - 20th century Flanders/The Netherlands:

> Mulisch
> Reve
> WF Hermans
> Claus
> Elsschot
> Van Ostaijen

>> No.11844338

>>11844217
The brothers Grimm were hacks.

>> No.11844342

>>11844217
Fuckn
go outside

>> No.11844365

>>11840436
Dante
Carducci
Leopardi
Calvino
Sciascia

>> No.11844372

>>11844299
Netherlands? No Erasmus, spinoza?

>> No.11844416

wow /lit/ has really fucking turned into /mu/. Just bored, boring people bickering for the sake of bickering. I came from /mu/ two years ago, used to not contribute to this board because people actually had intelligent interpretations of the books and I'd rather learn and get recs than shit up discussion, but the meta-board bullshit in this post is literally on par with every other autistic screech in this thread.

I'll go back to lurking after this, but you should all have a think about holding your tongues unless you actually have something insightful to say. These are some of the most futile discussions I've ever seen.

>> No.11844417

America
>Iceberg Slim
>William Gass
>Speed Weed
>Jonathan Corncob
>William Gass
>Breece Pancake

>> No.11844469

>>11841856
It's hard because all good German writers since circa 1900 are Austrian

>> No.11844474

>>11840468
>kineally and scott on the main list
>stow and lawson not on the main list
>mentioning ion "dad-fic" idriess at all

fucking cringe 2/10

>> No.11844748

>>11844416
Is this a new pasta? Haven't seen this one before

>> No.11844873

>Portugal
Camões
Saramago
Pessoa
Alberto Caeiro
Ricardo Reis
Alvaro de Campos

>> No.11845070

>France

Montaigne
Flaubert
Proust
Villon
Racine
Mallarmé

Honourable mentions : Baudelaire, Saint-Simon, Hugo, Corneille, Balzac, Molière.

>> No.11845105

>Germany
Kafka
Nietzsche
Goethe
Thomas Mann
---------- (These 4 are essential, the other 2 down are just what I think and like)
Rilke
Jünger

>> No.11845117

>>11840481
Why in this board eco is so loved?

>> No.11845126

France:

>Balzac
>Flaubert
>Rimbaud
>Proust
>Gide
>Zola

>> No.11845138

>>11845070
>Villon
>Mallarmé
smells like teacher

>> No.11845139
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11845139

>>11844416
>you should all have a think about holding your tongues unless you actually have something insightful to say.
*SNAP*
Uhhh... That's a heavy hitter... Do I even want this in my cringe compilation?

>> No.11845150

>>11840287
USA
>me
>breathing room for the next four wanna bes
>who cares
>who cares
>who cares
>maybe Melville or Nabokov

>> No.11845173

>>11840436
>verga
tee hee

>> No.11845186

>>11840287
Hungary

>továbbra
>sem
>olvasok
>kibaszott
>magyar
>írókat

>> No.11845200

>>11840651
> Rancine

Bruv, Racine or Rancière ? I assume Racine

My turn, without using yours :
> Blanchot
> Stendhal
> Balzac
> Rabelais
> Aragon

>>11840936
mdr
OUAIS, OUAIS, OUAIS, OUAIS, OUAIS
OUAIS, C'EST L'DÉSERT DANS LA TETÊ

>> No.11845225

>>11840287
my alt. for america
>Hawthorne
>Whitman
>Melville
>James
>Steinbeck
>Frost

>> No.11845227

>>11840498
>not knowing the Man from Snowy River
ultimate pleb

>> No.11845238

>>11845186
Azért legalább a Krasznahorkai Lacit legyél szíves olvassad.

>> No.11845240

Japan
>Shikibu
>Dogen
>Basho
>Issa
>Kawabata
>Tanizaki
honorable mentions: Shinran, Buson, Akutagawa, Ryokan, maybe Mishima

>> No.11845251

>>11845240
10/10 list.

>> No.11845263

>>11844207
Produced lots of really good minor writers, but not great major writers

>> No.11845278

>>11844207
>>11845263
It's too soon to say. Contemporary literature will be possible to judge in 50 years maybe.

>> No.11845368

>>11845238
Ott van három könyve is a polcomon, és el is akarom már olvasni egy ideje a Háború és háborút, de meh, most nem akarok lehozódni az életről. Darvasit fontolgatom még amúgy.

>> No.11845382

>>11845368
Jó, hát én se olvasok nagyon magyart, de nekem is kínos hogy semmit se tudok róla.
Krasznahorkaihoz viszont kell egy elmeállapot. Érdemes többször próbálkozni, de Istenadta tehetsége van az íráshoz, hidd el.
Vagy kezdheted valamelyik rövidebb könyvével is.

>> No.11845386
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11845386

DEFINITIVE LIST. FOR EVERY COUNTRY WORTH A DAMN

YOU CANNOT DENY.

>CURRIES
Vyasa
Shankara
Buddha
Iqbal
Tagore
Ghalib

>OG FAGGOTS
Homer
Sophocles
Plato
Aristophanes
Aeschylus
Hesiod

>OG ARYANS BEAUTIFUL AND PROUD
Ferdowsi
Saadi
Rumi
Hafez
Attar
Hedayat

>OG WOPS
Virgil
Cicero
Ovid
Horace
Catullus
Seneca

>JUDEN
whoever wrote the book of Job
Yahwist
Qoheleth
Solomon
David
Maimonedes

>WOPS
Boccaccio
Petrarch
Dante
Ariosto
Leopardi
Pirandello

>ANGLOS
Chaucer
Shakespeare
Milton
Wordsworth
Dickens
Eliot

>MICKS
Swift
Bernard Shaw
Wilde
Yeats
Joyce
Beckett

>> No.11845389

>>11845386

>KRAUTS
Schiller
Goethe
Hölderlin
Mann
Brecht
Kafka (yeah I know but he still counts, shut up)

>OG SPICS
Cervantes
De vega
Barca
Unamuno
Lorca
Cela

>FROGS
Montaigne
Moliere
Voltaire
Flaubert
Baudelaire
Proust

>IVANS
Gogol
Tolstoy
Dostoevsky
Pushkin
Chekhov
Turgenev

>YANKS
Whitman
Dickinson
Twain
Melville
Poe
Faulkner

DO NOT REFUTE

>> No.11845402

>ctrl + f Tolkin
>0 results
The man single-handedly made a genre happen.

>> No.11845421

>>11845382
Most fog kijönni az Aprómunka egy palotáért, ami kb. 80 oldal, ráadásul Melville ihlette, úgyhogy lehet, megfogadom a tanácsodat.

>> No.11845433

>>11845386
>Wordsworth instead of Pope
>>11845389
>Poe instead of James

>> No.11845435

>>11845421
Én is a nagyon hosszú című könyvével kezdtem. Azt meg a Gendzsi monogátári ihlette.
Ne foszd meg magad attól az élménytől ami Krasznahorkai írása, mert tényleg fergeteges hogy miket össze tud hozni.
Számomra perspektívaváltás volt megismerni a munkásságát a magyar irodalom tekintetében.

>> No.11845466

>>11845402
Which genre did he make happen?

>> No.11845473

>>11845433
CAN YOU NOT FUCKING READ

>> No.11845521

>>11840525
I liked Rulfo's stuff and I liked Paz's 'The Labyrinth of Solitude'. Where should I go next?

>> No.11845528
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11845528

>>11840533
based Lem

>> No.11845537

>>11840578
pooped, laughed and threw up in my mouth senpai

>> No.11845539

>>11840361
No keep Whitman, he's the best poet in the country's history. I would say take out Dickinson for Hemingway, but I suppose we should have a woman for appearances. Maybe Faulkner for Hemingway, but desu I'd rather keep Faulkner and leave out Hemingway.

>> No.11845550

>>11840287
>Emerson
Does anyone read Emerson today? Maybe 'Nature' in school, but most of his ideas seem to have faded into the past. Probably more people read Thoreau than Emerson. Personally, I would replace Emerson with Hawthorne

>> No.11845556

>>11844198
Alice Munro
Leonard Cohen

>> No.11845561

Monkeyland
> Pessoa
> Machado de Assis
> Guimarães Rosa
> Nelson Rodrigues
> Mario de Andrade
> Murilo Rubião

>> No.11845571
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>>11845389
>>11845473
Balzac instead of Baudelaire

>> No.11845572

>>11845386
>Eliot
TS Eliot?

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

We're talking about the country that has freaking William Blake, John Keats, Lord Byron, etc. TS Eliot can fuck off.

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11845587

>>11845572
>He doesn't know George Eliot
Thanks for the sperg though

>> No.11845591

>>11845571
READ THE POST AGAIN

>> No.11845597

>>11845587
>a woman
Even worse. She's obviously inferior to William Blake. Opinion discarded.

>> No.11845609

>>11844299
Vondel and Multatuli?

>> No.11845626

>>11845597
>one of the most important novelists in the English language who is renowned the world over for her prose and the depth of her psychological insight and sociological critique AND wrote Middlemarch, the greatest English novel of all time - the only novel written by a limey that is on the level of Flaubert and Tolstoy
>a schizo who is loved by edgelords for his easily digestible doggerel
What a choice

>> No.11845634

>>11845186
Márai?

>> No.11845665

>>11845626
No one is on the level of Tolstoy. Get that inside your head for once.

And if we're going to judge literature by its audience then Middlemarch is loved by spinsters, crones and faggots like you.

>her psychological insight and sociological critique
kek

>> No.11845674

>>11845665
Confirmed for never read Middlemarch

>> No.11845688

>>11840923
Bartleby

>> No.11845689

>>11845674
And that's a good thing.

>> No.11845692

>>11844077
>>11844198
>>11844205
>>11845556
Are you guys kidding me? Canada, while not fantastic, has some solid enough names/
Okay, so the four of you put together Atwood, Peterson, Cohen, and Munroe. Here are some additions so you can educate yourselves:
>Robertson Davies
>Stephen Leacock
>Alistair MacLeod
>Charles Taylor
>Margaret Laurence
>Irving Layton
>E. J. Pratt
>Archibald Lampman
>Marshall McLuhan
>Bernard Lonergan
>George Grant
>John Raulston Saul
>Jan Zwicky
>Anne Carson
>Lucy Maud Montgomery
>Mordecai Richler
>Thomas King

Of the above, the best are probably:
>Lonergan
>Taylor
>McLuhan
>Layton
>Davies

With Carson, Pratt, and Leacock tailing behind.
(Admittedly, I haven't read much of Munroe or Cohen, so I can't compare).

>> No.11845697

>>11845561
Pessoa is Portuguese not Brazilian.

>> No.11845702

>>11845665
>TIL Tolstoy was a spinster, crone and a faggot.

>> No.11845710

>>11845702
He felt guilty for fucking his own wife so we could make a case for the last one.

>> No.11845725

>>11844111
this guy knows what's up

>> No.11845732

>>11840324
> Kochanoski
Przynajmniej byś dobrze napisał ty wykopowy troglodyto

>> No.11845744

>>11841081
> Krasiński

A weź spierdalaj, Krasiński nie umywa się do Słowackiego i Mickiewicza czarnuchu

>> No.11845749

>>11843950
> Conrad
> anglo

KEK

>> No.11845752

>>11840330
Dickens

>> No.11845754

>>11845749
Honorary anglo. Polacks don't get to have him

>> No.11845775

>>11843530
Based

>> No.11845817

>>11845117
Why should he be hated?

>> No.11845823

>>11845561
>Pessoa
>Brazilian
???

>> No.11845851
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11845851

actual Brazil
>Machado de Assis
>Carlos Drummond de Andrade
>Gonçalves Dias
>Guimarães Rosa
>Castro Alves
>Cruz e Souza
honorable mentions would be José de Alencar, Mário de Andrade and Pe. Antônio Vieira

>> No.11845856

>>11845851
How does it feel the fact that your best writer was a nigger? lol

>> No.11845895

>>11845817
I don't think he should be hated but speaking on Italian literature he always appears as a big boss when I figure at least 20 more important author. Also in prose I'd hardly list him in a top 5

>> No.11845988

Ibsen
Hamsun
Holberg
Undset
Björnson
Hauge

>> No.11846021

Dutch
>>11844299
I prefer Bordewijk over Mulisch.

Also honorable mentions to Nescio and LP Boons.

>> No.11846803

>>11845389
>Voltaire
This makes absolutely no fucking sense.

>> No.11846821

>>11845389
>Gogol
>Tolstoy
>Dostoevsky
>Pushkin
>Chekhov
>Turgenev
agree 100%. I guess with Russia it's not that controversial who the best are.

Well i have a slight desire to replace Turgenev with Lermontov actually, but it could go either way.

>> No.11846833

>>11846821
If only Lermontov hadn't died than he might've been a contender. A Hero of Our Time definitely holds up next to Turgenevs best tho, beautiful book.

>> No.11846838

Moses
Isaiah
Solomon
Heine
Kafka
Bob Dylan

>> No.11846930

Muhammad
bin Laden
My neighbor's camels (4)

>> No.11847006

>>11845851
>no Jorge Amado
pleb lord
besides, José de Alencar was a shit, as were all brazilian romantic writers

>> No.11847083

>>11842007
Not Nietzsche
>>11842014
Not Lorca

Why even try

>> No.11847141

>>11840287
REEEEEEEEEE
Gogol was Ukrainian

>> No.11847212

>>11847141
lol

>> No.11847217

>>11846803
SOMEONE ELSE WHO CAN'T READ. CHECK THE POST AGAIN.

>> No.11847316

>>11847217
I mean all your other picks are somewhat credible, but Voltaire..

>> No.11847323

>>11847316
READ IT AGAIN RETARD

>> No.11847409

English
>Shakespeare
>Stephen King
>Chuck Palahniuk
>Charles Bukowski

>> No.11847430

>>11840287
prob not gonna read the russians until i learn russian

>> No.11847456

>>11840287
Replace someone with Lermontov. Not sure who though

>> No.11847460

>>11840324
The dude who wrote the Witcher books

>> No.11847522

You know what, I'll try writing the Hungarian one
>Zrínyi
>Arany
>Kosztolányi
>Weöres
>Ady
>József Attila

>> No.11847663

>>11844416
>but you should all have a think
Keep your word and never EVER post on MY /lit/ again

>> No.11848481

>>11840287
I want Steinbeck to get at least an honorary mention for USA.

Also, are we speaking in terms of story-tellers/poets, or general writers? If the latter, Emerson belongs on there. If the former, I'd switch him for Poe.

>> No.11848505

>>11840287
Chile

>Mistral
>Neruda
>Huidobro
>Emar
>Nicanor Parra
>de Rokha

>> No.11848914

>>11841346

>Marechal

ahaha