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You've made me neurotic as fuck, /lit/. In the past couple of weeks I've been thinking about this stupid NPC meme.

It seems I am constantly doing the same things, at the same time, without fail. And the scary part is that I am seemingly unable to break this dumb routine (it consists in the simplest tasks: sleeping, eating, browsing the internet, going to courses on graduate school) as every time I try to do something difference I feel extremely compelled to just forget this outlier behavior and go back to my ways. I make plans and don't follow through, but my routine keeps getting more and more rigid. I don't wash my car or visit relatives. Reading books feels like some chore, an obligation to be fulfilled rather than a true heart's desire. I also constantly bump on other people and hit tables, beds, walls with my feet and often send itens flying on the air (I break lots of plates and glasses due to this). There is very little reasoning going on in my mind: I am unable to create causal chains of actions towards an objective. My movement is very peculiar and deliberate, as if I'm walking like a real life QWOP character.

I've come to realize that I'm as close as possible to an Oblivion NPC powered by Radiant AI. What are books about such pathetic characters? Stoner? Notes from the Underground?

>> No.11812933

>>11812914
Do I get xp for this interaction

>> No.11812938

It's just a stupid /pol/ meme anon
Read The Origin of Consciousness in the Bicameral Mind

>> No.11812946
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>>11812938
I-it's you! The Hero Of Kvatch!

>> No.11812948
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>>11812914
I relate to this so much man, the NPC meme has been giving me a real nasty existential crisis. Perhaps we are all just sims in God's session of The Sims...

>> No.11812958

>>11812948
My real dread is not that we're in some SimCity like simulation where everyone is some dumb robot. My fear is that this is more like an MMORPG and there are people with actual agency.

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>>11812938
>It's just a stupid /pol/ meme anon
I speak the saddest words of tongue and pen, when I say "/pol/ was right again"
https://archive.org/details/youtube-5WXV1PxUiAM

>> No.11812992

>>11812967
The hell you talking about

>> No.11812997

>>11812992
I think the image speaks for itself, but I recommend clicking the link for the song and listening to really get the mood.
You do you though.

>> No.11813004

>>11812938
Bicameralism is hardly well accepted academically

>> No.11813129

>>11812914
I have this fear, but then I log into my RunesScape account and I know, I can no longer be considered a NPC.

>> No.11813156

>>11812958
You don't even know how much you inspired me right now
I'm going to conquer this day

>> No.11813169

>>11813004
go back to HBO

>> No.11813494

>>11812914
it's just solipsism for plebs and 4chantards
nothing new here, fuckwits

>> No.11813550

>>11813494
No, everyone has a mind but NPC is just a funny term for someone with a less developed mind akin to an animal. They are less self-conscious about themselves and the world. They don't seem to rationalize or question anything and therefore are easily manipulated by the government and media.

>> No.11813555

>>11813494
Not really.

>> No.11813567

That's just how your brain works, dude. Everyone has habits and they get wired into you as you repeat them, so you end up doing them automatically. It's like muscle memory. But luckily the brain is plastic, through repetition you can also break those habits and form new ones. It's basic CBT.

>> No.11813589

>>11812914
Sounds like a typical internet addict that gets just enough novelty online to be insufficiently motivated to do anything else. I bet that if you go on a media fast you will start to do new stuff within a week and will also get your affairs and posessions in tip top order.

>> No.11813602

>>11813494
it's bugman + p-zombie

>> No.11813617

>>11812914
>tfw want to play videogames but can't because ill get addicted again

feelsbadman

>> No.11813625

>>11813617
>tfw want to like videogames but it’s too much of a sustained effort compared to refreshing 4chan

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>>11812967
>tweeting about retarded /pol/ memes

>> No.11813941

>>11812967
Of course communism would be pissed off. Their whole philosophy is "revolution of the NPCs". NPCs never revolt unless ordered to do so by PCs.

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>>11812914
>graduate school

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11814138

Is my gf an NPC??

>> No.11814150

>>11814138
If you have to consciously think about getting a drink of water you just have brain damage.

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>>11812967
>being called an unthinking automaton doesn’t carry a negative connotation
I swear /pol/tards get dumber and dumber every day

>> No.11814161

>>11814150
This.

>> No.11814177

>>11812914
It's your own fault for being so unsure of yourself. Stoner and the Underground Man are both PCs btw

>> No.11814196

>>11814150
Then what's a better NPC test?

>> No.11814209

>>11814196
Ask them to self reflect on their own thought processes.

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>>11812967
>4chan on twitter

>> No.11814214

>taking a meme this serious

>> No.11814258
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The question you should be asking isn't "who is an NPC?", but instead "who is a moderator?"

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>>11812914
I love this meme; I recently started making friends, working out, all the usual stuff people do to gain 'real life experiance points' and it really does work. The secret isn't to do good stuff, it's to do better stuff than you use to do. Since I started actively adding to my life I really do feel better as a person...NPC's never change, Players are constantly growing as humans.

Get in the game.

>> No.11814325

>>11814307
elite post

>> No.11814349

>>11813129
based player character

>> No.11814352

>>11812914
The better question is why do you think this is a bad thing? I wish I was capable of planning my day and doing everything at exactly the same time for the same amount of time. id get so fucking much done.

>> No.11814354

>>11814138
all women are NPC's, anon. that's why none of them flinch at losing their last name in marriage. A PC always wants to be his own man, and forge his own destiny, and go questing with the lads and trade items and work on his dueling skills, but women lack all of this because they live and understand the world through their man, aka their player. if it were otherwise they would be the one going around trying to secure a subordinate human for themselves as men do with women. does she know about the cow level in diablo 2? has she ever studied Kant and then at least considered laying out her own system of philosophy? Has she ever done any character building of any kind? does the thought "+1 to armor defense" suddenly bring to mind fantasies of trotting about on her hack performing valiant deeds for naught but honor and everlasting fame? No, such things are silly to her, and moreover the thought of her own dainty hand gripping a broad sword would cause her to giggle before she could even hold it upright, let alone stare down a foe wearing deadly purpose on her brow. Ha! what a jest to even use "her" in these sentences. but alas it is so, your girlfriend is an NPC, friend and you might be one also.

>> No.11814379

>>11812914
I notice NPC behaviour in myself especially when I look over my posts on 4chan/twitter. It's made me realize my mind is infected by memes that I regurgitate as if it is an actual response to anything

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>>11812967
>screencaping twitter posts
Why not just copy paste it and pretend it is your opinion? Way less cringy this way.

>> No.11814402

>>11814307
>NPC's never change
In 90% of games the NPCs evolve as the PC completes quests. Question is, who's quests are you responding to?

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11814497

whole NPC crap makes no sense if this is all a simulation everyone is an NPC

>> No.11814529

ITT: NPCs witchhunt other NPCs

>> No.11814545

>>11814497
Not at all. The simulation is real, but some people have agency and others don't. That is: for some people the simulation is a playground, and the NPCs are in the playground for the protagonist's delight and use.

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>>11814307

>i recently started making friends, working outs ... uuhh.... all those things bro...

>> No.11814627

>>11814545
But that brings up more questions. Are these people with agency avatars for beings beyond our comprehension? If not, do they operate in an area in this universe (which then brings more questions, like how they interact with their ‘characters’. If people with agency truly exist in the sense that they don’t live an npc lifestyle but they still fall under these other being’s control, then they still lack a true direction. If there aren’t other beings playing through them, what physical qualities do they have that separates them from other the other npc humans? It can’t be strictly mental, otherwise anyone’s capable of breaking free of this npc lifestyle.

>> No.11814630

>>11814627
My phoneposting makes itself known. Sorry for the mistakes

>> No.11814641

Anyone who takes the NPC meme this seriously has to be a legit autist

>> No.11814703

>>11814641
autist is the word NPC's use to describe player characters whose sense of agency is foreign to them. or in other words, the search for the type, above and beyond the particular, baffles the NPC but intrigues the philosopher, the player character, who sees life as a quest; thus he displays something beyond the ordinary vegetative life of the multitude, which responds to stimulus but does not order it

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>>11812914
>You've made me neurotic as fuck
I'll let you in on a little secret: this was the whole point of the meme.

>> No.11814856

>>11814703
Shitposting on 4chan and laying around all day like Oblomov doesn't make you a philosopher

>> No.11814900

>>11814138
>I have to consciously think "I am thirsty, so I must drink water" and that makes me better than all these thoughtless NPCs

>> No.11814909

>>11814703
So now you're literally just using this shitty meme to justify and feel superior in your autism

>> No.11814915

>>11812914
The real thing that makes you an NPC is the fact that you've let fucking 4chan memes determine your outlook on life

>> No.11814927

>>11812914
>baby's first schizophrenia

>> No.11814960

>>11814856
Why does it not make me one?

>>11814909
by heavens if I speak falsely commit me to the madhouse and do not delay

>> No.11815017

>>11812914
As always when a new meme emerges I apply the 4-way test:

>Is it the TRUTH?

>Is it FAIR to all concerned?

>Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?

>Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?

SAG'D

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11815027

lots of butt-blasted NPC's ITT

curious

>> No.11815155

>>11812958
This is an optimistic way of looking at it. I feel a bit better when I look at the problem like this, thanks anon.

>> No.11815319

How do you decide, within yourself, if you're an NPC or an MC?

>> No.11815350

>>11815155
But how is it optimistic? What if you're not part of the ones who have agency, what if you're a pushover with pre-built dialogue lines and behaviors?