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I read the book in OP during a semester long class. I thought it was fairly enlightening experience but secondary texts were used to help. It's not an either/or.

>>11731270
I've read the smaller logic, and I'm about halfway through the phenomenology. I've also read the prolegema and the first critique. Having done this, I can confirm that no, most people never read this shit, they just meme and rely and secondary sources. You wont get much out of them without a lot of experience reading philosophy, I did the university meme and they were still struggles for me.

Just finished Kant’s CPR, I went through a series of lectures on youtube by Robert Paul Wolf and I found it useful.

>>11731303
faggot

>>11731303
poofter

>>11731270
>read a major work by Hegel or Kant cover to cover
I'm probably stupid, insane, and masochistic, but I'm trying to read PoS in it's entirety with little philosophical knowledge (basic surface reading of Plato, Descartes, Spinoza, Locke, and Leibniz). This motherfucker is really fucking hard to read. It's been 3 months since I started him and I've only worked up to his section on perception.

>>11731270
I read all pf Hegel's POS, and I have to say that schopenhauer is right...he was a charlatan. But thats predicated on about .00003% of what I was able to grasp from POS

>>11731530

POS also stands for piece of shit

>>11731270
Yeah I read the entirety of Kant’s What is Enlightenment. Guess I’m pretty smart

>>11731552

>>11731270
Prolegomena to any Future Metaphysics counts as far I'm concerned

>>11731517
This is a great way to learn philosophy, maybe the best? keep going. you'll miss a lot but you'll know why. and know where to go next.

>>11731552
u got my joke :^)

>>11731270
I have. Kant's moral philosophy is no big deal. Critique is pretty readable if you can maintain enough focus to hold all of the threads of his sentences together. Eventually you understand his cadences and can anticipate when he's done with a concept and when he's just interjecting. On pg 119 of the Phenomenology now.

>>11731270

Many of us have. Read the works yourself and you'll be very good at spotting who we are.

>>11731916
>all this Schopenhauer
oh no

>>11731916
It's always pseuds who post pictures of book stacks.

>>11731303
What? His lectures are awful. I listened to them and more than anything they confused me.

I read all of PoS and what sticks with me most comes from the introduction. He urges his readers not to get stuck in a 'limetwig' (a snare) as it were. So what did I do? I perseverated on it. Does he mean that he has laid traps in his work that one must avoid? Is this one of them? Should I be doing exactly the opposite of this; what I am doing? Fuck. Ok. I read the rest of the book and still it bothers me. Did I undergo a kind of thesis / synthesis / antithesis relation with this getting stuck and then completing the reading? I had to conclude that Hegel was a bit of a douche lord.

I hate people who don't read the text themselves. I started reading over a year ago and I'm currently about to start the Inverted World section.

Wish me luck buddy bangbros.

>>11732317
>doesn't understand that all philosophers write esoterically and use traps to snare the unenlightened
Never gonna make it, bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8b_cnhql0&list=PL4gvlOxpKKIgR4OyOt31isknkVH2Kweq2&index=2

>>11731270
I read "Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals" for a class and understood it. I started Hegel's Phenomenology but ended up realizing I needed more understanding of the Western tradition.

>>11731916
>the art of always being right
>persuasion

>>11732302
Try being smarter, ya dummy

>>11734282

>>11731517
You sound like a cute person, are you single?

>>11734623
*glomps you*

UwU *nuzzles boner* what's this?

>>11734793
It's a phenomena of my spirit.

>>11731582
a smart person would never say such a thing,unless in an agonizing state of insecurity.
That is coming from an average IQ btw

>>11732317
btw maybe it's persevere?
B2 english speaker here

>>11734904
what is sarcasm

Is the Inwood translation good?

I read the Pinkard translation back when it was available for free online. Supposedly Miller is dated. Was the only paper copy for the longest time tho. Probably worth a check just to understand older Hegelians. Would love to have a working knowledge of German but still working on Latin and Greek.

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