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>A third of U.S. teenagers haven’t read a book for pleasure in at least a year, according to a new survey from the American Psychological Association (APA). And it’s not because they’re too busy watching TV.

>The research, published in the journal Psychology of Popular Media Culture, points to the continuing dominance of digital media among teenagers. Teen use of traditional media — such as books, magazines and television — has dropped off, while time spent texting, scrolling through social media and using other forms of digital media continues to increase, the survey says.

>Even television and movie consumption is declining, the research shows. Thirteen percent of eighth graders said they watched five or more hours of television per day in 2016, compared to 22% in the 1990s.

http://time.com/5371053/teenagers-books-social-media/

Truly we are in the last days of sodom.

>> No.11665283

Teenagers are too stupid to appreciate books anyway.

>> No.11665290

>>11665280
>a third
bullshit

>> No.11665294

>>11665280
>YA fiction is now being read and written exclusively by manchildren and pseuds looking for wish fulfillment fantasies of escaping a dystopian society

>> No.11665295

range-ban burgerland when?

>> No.11665297

>>11665280
Why would anyone read? It's for pseuds because ideas can't keep up with the real world.

>> No.11665306

>>11665280
>even television and movie consumption is declining

It's weird, they're going to be completely open to any form of digital manipulation, or completely skeptical of anything.

>> No.11665310

I talked to a qt new girl at work. She was struggling with her tasks, so I gave her a hand. And while I was fixing the stuff, she pulled out her Iphone and started browsing for clothes and even complained that an image doesn't load well on her phone. I was like:
>well, maybe you can shop at home, liek from your computer... it's much better for finding the right item
>'but I don't own a computer'
>y-you w-whut?
>'I don't need one, the phone is much better, I can care it everywhere, browse any time, watch films and etc'


sigh, you expect these people to read?

>> No.11665311

>>11665306
When they say "Television and movie consumption" they are talking about actual TV cable subscriptions and movie theatre ticket sales. They still watch all the shit that gets put up on Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, etc.

>> No.11665312

>>11665280
Basé et rougepilule

>> No.11665313

>>11665280
Then who reads all those retarded YA books??

>> No.11665318

>>11665310
I was speaking to a manager at my work, he gets all his news from Snapchat. 10 second headlines, no depth no nothing "because thats all I need".

>>11665313
All those kidults

>> No.11665321

>for pleasure
Fuck off, Epicurus.

>> No.11665325

A third is way too low, the actual number must be at least 90%

>> No.11665327

>>11665318
well news are fuckin worthless anyway

>> No.11665334

>>11665290
Yeah, it's probably higher.

>> No.11665336

>>11665280
These generation fucks before they can read a book for pleasure. This is the beginning of the end of civilization.

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>>11665310
Just wait, all these Xillennials pretending to be Zoomers will have no place to go once the Boomers out them as the worst thing for the economy since unsliced bread.

>> No.11665348

>>11665327
I agree to a certain extent. Aside from the litany of "fake news" that is out there that is just to generate clickbait and whatnot, there are still publications out there that are providing a necessary service to citizens. And staying informed in an already overwhelming information economy can be bewildering, but being literate and knowing what is bullshit, and what is researched is still worthy of investment outside of 10 second window

>> No.11665350

>>11665327
Yeah, most people only ever read the headlines. My father reads the whole thing religiously but he's still as dumb as a post.

>> No.11665392

>>11665280
>last days of Sodom

True but not because of a lack of recreational reading. We're all sitting on a time bomb of debt, nuclear weapons, corporate dominance, and technological progress. If a solar flare doesnt do us in then we will.

>> No.11665408

The OP just reinforces my belief that you should have to take a test in order to vote, and if you fail you don't get to vote. No more universal franchise, it's led to awful things and it's only going to get worse.

>> No.11665415

>>11665392
I've been thinking about this. There needs to be some sort of crossing of a threshold in order to establish a stronger worldview/outcome. Like if extraterrestrials arrive or singularity is suddenly achieved. Maybe I'm just cynical but it feels as if there is a significant death drive in our world today

>> No.11665418

why isn't anyone trying to lean into this trend for quick entertainment? this could be a heyday for short stories, or (more likely) short short stories / flash fiction.

>> No.11665426

Why do you complain? I always read on /lit/ about how antiquity was the greatest era and most people back then were literally illiterate plebs. And now suddenly it's a tragedy that teenagers don't read?

>> No.11665434

>>11665280
and how many books were you reading?

>> No.11665437
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>>11665408
Tell me about it, this damn young generation doesn't know shit.

>> No.11665439

>>11665295
when bongs can speak something resembling english

>> No.11665442

>>11665280
>A third
I would not be surprised to find out that well over 2/3 do not read books. It's not a popular form of entertainment anymore.
What always astonishes me about these studies is that they never inform people about the free Kindle and Google Books apps with FREE books on them. What got me back into reading was being able to read a book instead of 4chan on my laptop or Facebook on my phone.

>> No.11665450

>>11665408
Test to vote, procreate etc.

>> No.11665463

>>11665450
Why not a test to live? At least a test to not be regulated to slavery.

>> No.11665469

>>11665463
We need someone to mop floors and make Bigmacs

>> No.11665472

>>11665426
And yet it seems like those who were literate (let's say in early modernity) operated on a higher level. People always like to point out that Shakespeare was for the plebs back in the day, for instance, but if this is true then that seems particularly damning for the plebs today (look at what entertains them now). Now, everybody's "literate" (in that they're capable of running their eyes over a page and saying the words) but everybody's mediocre,too.

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>>11665408
>OH NO I CAN'T VOTE!
>DAMN AND I REALLY WANTED TO CAST MY APPROVAL FOR THE SADISTIC JESTERS WHO ARE JUST A DISTRACTION FROM REAL POLITICS!

>> No.11665493

>>11665469
A U T O M A T I O N

>> No.11665498

>>11665472
You elevate a handful of people whose work survived as if everyone was reading them. There were ignorant rich people just as there is today and there is literally no reason to believe otherwise.

>> No.11665521

>>11665472
Shakespeare performed plays to entertain and to appease royalty that commissioned a lot of his works. The fact that the commoners came to see his plays were due to the fact they were free admission and a chance to booze up. It wasn't like he was writing YA

>> No.11665551

>>11665521
Free or not they still went.
Today no one would even show up.

>> No.11665569
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11665569

>Teach the cattle to read
>The cattle choose not to read
Inconceivable.

>> No.11665585

>>11665551
Bullshit. In my city there are several open area plays and festivals, people always show up.

>> No.11665588

Make only the elderly able to vote

>> No.11665593

>>11665415
It sounds silly writing it out but the middle class/wealthy in the top post-industrial countries (me included) are too comfortable. Every other person it seems is on prozac or Xanax. And smartphones have turned into these little security blankets for self-conscious thoughts

>> No.11665616

>>11665493
>duh just use tech magic to make all menial tasks disapear overnight

>> No.11665629

>>11665593
Major cities and economies tend to do that. Its even happening in China as well, so its not Western-centric phenomena.

Mark Fishers Capitalist Realism got it exactly right

>> No.11665658

>>11665585
Poor people and high art?

>> No.11665676

Less than 1/3 of the population used to literate at all for centuries, and civilization did just fine. I think we'll survive a few social media addicts

>> No.11665680

>>11665676
That's a shame.

>> No.11665722

>>11665463
>>11665469

You can use robots for that. What you need slaves for is to NURBS the polymer bodywork for the 2020 Honda Civic (and more slaves to drive them, sync traffic lights etc.)

>> No.11665736

>>11665658

sure -- aren't all the actors poor?

>> No.11665752

>>11665736
No

>> No.11665756

Ideally it would be great if everyone read Homer and Milton but the majority of people have always been pleb.

>> No.11665764

>>11665658
high art isn't exclusively for rich people anymore.

>> No.11665781

>>11665676
>>11665426
that was before universal suffrage. Now the opinion of the dumbest illiterate pig farmer is equal to that of the scholar who has devoted his life to studying the matter.

>> No.11665791

>>11665781
To be fair, scholars are Jews and leftists. I rather the pig farmer get the vote and the scholar doesn't

>> No.11665800

this is literally a good thing you pseuds, anyone who still has the attention span to read a book is going to have a massive upper hand in life compared to all of those normie fags

>> No.11665806

>>11665791
>I vote for the guy I'd like to have a beer with
People like you should be spit on in public

>> No.11665811

>>11665806
Its more people with a connection to a land have better interests in the longterm welfare of the nation than mentally ill subversive nerds with resentment complexes

>> No.11665815

>>11665811
Ah yes, one set of imaginary people you can trust is better than the set of imaginary people you cannot trust. You figured it all out.

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>>11665313
Me.

>> No.11665830

>>11665800
>an upper hand in shit
>good thing

>> No.11665833

>>11665815
>pig farmers are imaginary

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>>11665833
>trusting pig farmers
shiggy diggy doo

>> No.11665869

>>11665294
Pseuds look down YA, pseuds read DFW and other postmodern memes without understanding them but pretend they do on /lit/ anyway

>> No.11665871

>>11665280
basically proves the idiom " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". Access to all human knowledge and most would rather watch cats

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>>11665280
>2/3 of teens read for pleasure

Yeah, that's bullshit.

>> No.11665964

>>11665280
So two thirds do? That's better than any time in history, faggot.

The only negative message here is the social media cancer, though at the same time bitching about it on 4chan doesn't feel quite right.

>> No.11665973

>>11665871
Almost like they are stuck in a capitalist hamster wheel which leaves them barely enough time to relax between shifts.

>> No.11665981

>>11665973
Bourgeois here, my peers don't read either.

>> No.11665983

>>11665829
>posts the animu
>the one season animu
>not the mango
>associates it with YA
[[salting intensifies]]

>> No.11665992

>>11665981
They are too busy coming up with ways to make more than their peers. A short term thinking society with focus on competition isn't going to have too many people interested in knowledge for the sake of knowledge.

>> No.11666036

>>11665992
The other options so far has either been meme ideologies, literally the worst governments ever or taking the road to serfdom.

Utopia won't come, do what you can etc

>> No.11666043

>>11665973
Aristrocrat here. No children read here either.

>> No.11666055

>>11665973
this. i work part time and the days i work i have no energy left to read, i just go home and pass out really. reading is a NEET sport

>> No.11666068

>>11665973
None works as much, let alone more than, their illiterate ancestors. Nor as hard. Nor for as little compensation. Immediately kill yourself.

>> No.11666085

>>11666036
Depends on how our switch to automation will go. At least the potential for massive improvement for everybody is there, obviously the potential of people attempting to follow old ideologies into the future and fucking everything up is an option too but hey, our history offers enough reasons to be somewhat optimistic.

>> No.11666092

>>11665992
Actually, most of them (of my generation, that I know) are wasting their time on hedonistic pleasures and will end up lower on the social hierarchy than their parents.

>> No.11666103

>>11666068
the difference was that our "illiterate" ancestors actually owned land and their own houses. sure they worked harder, but not as long and definitely not for less. we work more hours for less now. you're lucky if you 8 hours a day and are able to afford a studio apartment. i bet you're one of those cucks who thinks we have it so great in the 21st century just because we have ipads

>> No.11666108

>>11665280
The West is becoming more like it's pre-modern state in this regard. In the future there will be a patrician class (who read) and a large population of urban barbarians who don't, even though they can. The last few centuries of high literacy were an anomaly

>> No.11666145

>>11666068
There is a lot of hidden time spent of work these days. You're more "flexible" aka available around the clock thanks to technological progress, which also leads to lack of really straight cut "work day" and "leisure time". Commutes added a lot unpredictability too.

>>11666092
>are wasting their time on hedonistic pleasures
Because the entire system literally depends on them doing so, hence a lot effort is spent to promote Netflix & chill or blowing your brain away with vidya. Of course you can blame them for falling for it but that approach isn't helping anyone.

>>11666108
Why becoming? At no point in history reading was bigger than it is now, yet it's still one of the smallest sectors due requiring more effort. Even reading shit like 50 shades is harder than just starring at a screen and pushing buttons.

>> No.11666184

>>11665415
Technology isn't the cure. It's the cancer.

>> No.11666225

>>11665846
What do you have against Christopher Langan?

>> No.11666291

if any of this is surprising, you’re completely out of touch

>> No.11666302

>>11665280
i'm surprised that 2/3 are reading
i spend a lot of my time on literature oriented board when i don't even read

>> No.11666305

>>11666291
how many teenagers are you in touch with anon?

>> No.11666352

>>11666108
> In the future there will be a patrician class (who read) and a large population of urban barbarians who don't
The future is now, and has been since the 18th century I'd say.

>> No.11666362

>>11665280
If that's actually true two thirds of teenagers reading is honestly way higher than I would have expected

>> No.11666425

English teacher here.

AMA.

>> No.11666435

>By 2016, just 2% of 10th graders said they read a newspaper almost every day, and just 16% of 12th graders reported reading a book or magazine almost every day.

Groundbreaking research there

>> No.11666503

>>11666425
what level?

>> No.11666532

f*cking the jews.

>> No.11666567

>>11666503
High school, upper classmen

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>>11666425
student. im 23

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>>11666567
is this in your curriculum?

>> No.11666610

>>11666425
What country do you teach in?
If US, do you agree that the current system causes kids to hate reading? One thing I notice a lot on this board (and in my own life) are anecdotes about resurgences in reading interest post-HS graduation.

>> No.11666683

>>11666585
No, is it any good?
>>11666581
I don't understand anything on that page.
>>11666610
US. The system doesn't teach kids to hate reading, they come into it hating it. They don't understand it. "Resurgences" in post-HS life has always been a thing because your shitty teenage attitude dissolves and you start noticing things outside of your pimply head.

Reading as an activity is baffling to a generation of snapchatters and twatterers and what have you. They don't understand delayed gratification and they don't understand tiered knowledge, stuff that requires time and effort to truly appreciate. If they can't push a button or watch a short video explaining it to them it doesn't interest them.

>> No.11666704

>>11665806
He's right though. Pig farmer is more likely to be reasonable and realistic. Scholar is just ideological, disconnected, and largely ignorant.

>> No.11666712

>>11666425
what's your favorite book to teach? how'd you end up teaching HS?

>> No.11666725

>>11666532
Lewd

>> No.11666745

>>11666712
>books
lel

But seriously, we are not typically allowed to teach whole books. It's excerpts and non-fiction for the most part. When we are allowed to teach fiction it is usually through short stories.

>> No.11666751

>>11666683
>No, is it any good?
no its literally the worst book i've ever read. its written at like a sixth grade level and its basically "mixed race half asian half black chad fights back against evil whitey who doesn't want him to have a swim team" in the end the racist father of the antagonist shoots the main characters 5 year old adopted black sister in the middle of his graduation ceremony. also he fucks a white chick. read this junior year of high school baka

>> No.11666830

>>11665791
>Jews
Phaha fuck off back to /pol/

>> No.11666904
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I teach high schoolers computer coding through making simple video games, I’ve only been teaching for ~2 years so I don’t have knowledge as to what kids used to be like to teach but here’s my experience.

75% of the teenagers have no ability to focus or commit effort to anything at all. Even when the thing they’re doing is making their own games they still think it’s too hard and will try to play robolox or fidget spinners within 2 minutes of starting the lesson.

23% will commit some effort but give up trying on their own when they hit a somewhat hard piece of logic.

The last 2% insist on making text based adventure games and refuse to leave at the end of the lesson. Ive also noticed that these kids are more likely to stick with what they know already rather than learn new things.

As I said though, kids may have always been like this, I don’t really know

>> No.11666921

>>11666904
Another funny story, the other day we were doing basic cryptography with the Year 10s (15 year olds), and I spoke about the Caeser Cipher and what it was used for. Not one kid in the room new who Caesar was (beyond the one smart ass who said “like Caeser salad?”

>> No.11666945 [DELETED] 

A third of teenagers are spics or niggers. If nothing else this means every white child reads books even as a teenager, sounds like a great market to me. Not even 2/3 of people drive a car.

>> No.11666946

>>11666904
You realize that no intelligent being would care about programming right ?

>> No.11667387

>>11666704
>a pig farmer should know more about international trade and nuclear proliferation than someone who has studied economics and history their whole life.
you voted for trump, didn't you?

>> No.11667446

>>11665280
I'd be shocked if two thirds of teenagers have actually read books for pleasure.

>> No.11667449

>>11666946
uh. see indians and gooks pal. coding is the new being a doctor

>> No.11667548

>only a third

Shouldn't that be a celebration?

>> No.11667561

>>11665569
NEETZSCHE was right.

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>>11666745
>no whole books
>In high school
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*inhales*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH

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>200 years ago most kids are largely illiterate and barely completed fourth grade before becoming a hand on the farm
>But now that the kids are reading things that aren't books the world is ending

>> No.11667696

>>11665280
The real issue isn't that they aren't reading. Like others have already said, most people throughout history were flat out illiterate. I'm going to assume that the average teenager at any given decade even in recent times still didn't give a fuck about boring ass books. There wouldn't be a "book nerd" stereotype if that was a normal thing.

What's bad about this is that while teenagers in the past might have been working or out experiencing life in some way, modern kids just around binging tranny Youtube videos and playing whatever video game is the current flavor of the month meme.

>> No.11667920

>>11667634
books, especially the classics, are the condescend knowledge of generations before

do you really think it was just chance that has driven development over the last 200 years? or do you think it is because the right books got into the hands of those who had the potential to develop us further?

>> No.11667977

>>11666946
Only a brainlet would say this.

>> No.11668026

>>11666184
I'm not proclaiming it to be the panacea of humanity but an event that can bring humanity together and not be so egotistical and divisive all the time

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>>11665280
>tfw 18 year old boomer who reads books

feels good

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>>11665318
>gets his news exclusively from Snapchat
This isn’t real r-right?

>> No.11668145

>>11665280
>Even television and movie consumption is declining, the research shows. Thirteen percent of eighth graders said they watched five or more hours of television per day in 2016, compared to 22% in the 1990s.
So even tv and movies are becoming to long and complicated for modern youth so they resort to flash entertainment like snapchat? Dark times indeed

>> No.11668153

>>11667387
What grudge do you have against blue collar workers? Bet you've never done a hard day's work in your life kid.

>> No.11668172

>>11668153
not anon, but mindless blue collar work like landscaping is the absolute best for thinking. You can think all fucking day long. Nobody distracts you because you're supposed to be working, nobody to annoy you with chattering, no intellectual slave labor to hold you down. More skilled blue collar work like auto repair, cnc, construction, etc. sucks though.

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>>11665280
I bet its a lot higher than a third.
I didn't read books as a teenager either but I do now that I'm in my 20s. Wanted to do something other than play video games so I started reading for entertainment and now I enjoy it more than games.
Zoomers are going to be the worst generation by far, despite some fools thinking they are going to be the most redpilled. I'm sure the silent gen though boomers would be the worst, and boomers thought x would be the worst and so on, but this is different.
Zoomers grew up with paid digital distribution and social media, they don't remember a time without it. They are the perfect corporate cum guzzlers and have been changed due to paid digital distribution, social media and the environment it has created. These technological "innovations" have completely changed the landscape like nothing else i can think of. Cars just let allowed people to stop using horses and travel faster, farming equipment let people farm more and faster.
I have had some faggy looking zoomer brats sperg out and get mad at me for buying a physical book when I was in a bookstore instead of paying for digital on 3 different occasions. They all said it "hurts the environment" but any damage done would be completely irrelevant were it not for an artificially high population do to charity, outsourcing, and immigration. I'd be more than happy to enact policies to reduce population such as banning all charity to outside countries and banning trade partners from send aid or charity, completely closing the immigration gates, ban outsourcing, and not selling food to high population countries like India and China so they have mass starvations and death, all to help the environment, but they want to bitch and moan and give subsidies to Elon Musk instead of actually doing something about it that would actually help.

>> No.11668391

>>11665280
It's definitely more than that. The vas majority of the population doesn't read books / reads maybe 1 book a year.

>> No.11668400

>>11668172
i know exactly what you mean about that, your mental faculties are untouched by outside agitation so they are perfectly cohered into what you're trying to accomplish intellectually

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I didn’t begin reading until I was 25. I dove straight into Greek classics and all the usual Nietzsche/Dosto/Camus tier shit that people recommend and I can honestly say I was no better off after having read them. Sure, it’s a mild intellectual exercise but the questions and conclusions aren’t anything most 10 year olds haven’t pondered already. There is a reason people don’t read these days; they know it’s just the same regurgitated pseud non-answer in every book. I just read science fiction now. Shit is way cooler

>> No.11668565

>>11665325
No, a third is probably correct. But from the 66 percent, 60 % are probably reading Harry Potter and John Green novels. Of the 10% you must have 8 or 9% that are the pseudos who develop into lit browsers. 1% are the future intellectuals and authors.

>> No.11668566

>>11667920
>the condescend knowledge of generations before

Consider reading more, you fucking literal pseudo-intellectual

>> No.11668569

>>11668541
Quality

>> No.11668572

>>11668541
>Shit is way cooler
yeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh alrighty then

>> No.11668575

I don't think reading is that important for proles. Probably is for the better, will positively impact the direction of publishing. Hopefully they will go back to telling stories

>> No.11668580

>>11665658
High people and poor art boi

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This fucking thread.

>> No.11669954

How ironic. Image board posters lament over an increase of the time spent texting and scrolling by the upcoming generation.

>> No.11669970

>>11668890
>the system's trick

that makes me lol every time, wow man edgy stuff kid oh wait what's that you're a grown man? ok then

>> No.11670033

>>11665280
What do you want? More teenagers reading and watching Twilight?

>> No.11670073

>>11665280
and just think, 80% of "readers" are, like, totally into Harry Potter and Game of Thrones I'm such a nerd lol

>> No.11670099

>>11667449
Chink Indian coders are the pinnacle of human intelligence

>> No.11670161

>>11665280
Fuck those washed up whores texting chad on smartphones bought by their cuck dad. I want to tie them up and flay them alive before pouring salt in their wounds as i read Notes from Underground laughing maniacally and ironically

>> No.11670235

>>11670161
Not based, but definitely redpilled

>> No.11670254

>>11670161
hot

>> No.11670341

>>11665280
>A third of U.S. teenagers haven’t read a book for pleasure
I find it much harder to believe that two-thirds have read a book in the last year. Both of my last two girlfriends were self proclaimed book lovers who didn't pick up a book the entire duration of our relationship. My current one is pretty much the same way. They all watch just a ton of Netflix though.

>> No.11670357

>>11665280
I am not from US but I feel like reacting, I am 21 currently and till the age of 20 I havent read a single book. Why? Because in school they were forcing us into reading shitty books that shitty people enjoyed in 1950s I basicly started reading that book we had to read but after few pages had no energy in continuing cuz I was bored as hell by that not interesting plot. So basicly I thought all books are boring and shitty wrote. But about a year ago me and my friend were talking about some topic I was interested in and he told me: "You know what? I got a book about this, I think you should enjoy reading it." So I read that book, and I actually enjoyed it from first to last page, I even found myself starting reading at page 51 and suddenly I was on page 120 without even realizing Ive read that much. Since that day Ive read 12 books and reading another one right now. Screw teachers, made me hate literature for such a long time.

>> No.11671545

>>11665280
I would put the blame on high school English teachers. It put me off from reading a book voluntarily for most of my high school years. The other reason why it's low is because there's not (to my knowledge) a really hot YA novel making rounds (Harry Potter, Twilight, Hungry Games)

>> No.11671563

Well, Socrates never read a book, according to /lit this makes him a pleb.

>> No.11671568
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11671568

I think I slowed down reading when I discovered porn as well

Ended up alright

>> No.11671605

>>11670357
>>11671545
These anons get it.

I read constantly since I was a kid so it wasn't really an issue for me but the kids who didn't read much and had shit forced on them in HS, shit they were forced to dissect like a fucking frog before they really read and fell for the magic of reading, all came to hate reading and it was a pain to convince them to pick up a book later.

School is generally amazing at draining the joy and curiosity out of everything. My teachers managed to make the Russian revolution and the cold war sound boring.

>> No.11671626

There is a link between failing literacy levels and political upset during presidential elections in the states.

So I guess this fits snug.

>> No.11671639

>>11665310
Damn, she watches tv on the little tiny phone screen?

>> No.11671676

>>11671639
It's not even that bad when you consider how shitty the directing for TV usually is.

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>>11671605
>forced to dissect like a fucking frog before they really read
That was the other thing that sucked about it, is that even if you liked the book, you'll encounter one of these three things.
>take a test specifically designed to screw over people who read the Cliffs Notes/Sparksnotes version, but you'd be still be screwed if you glanced over some tiny detail or forgot what minor character said what
>write an essay usually involving character motivations with lots of quotes for citations, your only hope is gaming the system and bullshitting (at some point, "character x is a metaphor for Jesus Christ" WILL come up)
>do a group project that will take up weeks of your time but the grade is ultimately worthless for the semester

>> No.11671795

>>11671605
>tfw great history teacher
>had amazing feet and wore 3"+ heels regularly
i know far more than is decent about world history thanks to her but a lot of it just makes me want to masturbate.

>> No.11671813

>>11671626
Indeed, at one point quarter of Americans actually believed Trump is literally a Hitler and fascist.

>> No.11671826

>>11665297
but ideas are the real world

>> No.11671827

>>11671813
>literally
to be fair, i think that's also the side that thinks using literally for emphasis is a capital offense.

>> No.11671832

>>11671827
https://www.bing.com/search?q=trump+literally+fascist

>> No.11671886

>>11671832
If you read the actual articles, they explore how much the claim applies and make a solid argument. No one gives a shit about jewtubers, tweets and bloggers.

>> No.11672112

>>11671605
I fucking hated reading three sentences, or listening to someone stumble over three sentences as they read aloud, and having to stop to discuss what was just read. But that was more highschool, elementary school usually allowed the teacher to read the whole chapter before going back over it, at least, which is a lot more enjoyable than every other sentence.

>> No.11672148

>>11672112
Fuck you for giving me flashbacks.

>read the entire page while the teacher is still talking
>the slow kid is still stuck at the first sentence
>the next kid is totally lost
>finally a decent reader but now some shithead is laughing over mishearing a word

>> No.11672184

>>11672148
>>finally a decent reader but now some shithead is laughing over mishearing a word
Anon you replied to here. I was that kid as well as the kid who'd read the entire chapter and then sleep the rest of the class.

>> No.11672224

>>11665280
Nothing wrong or unusual about this

>> No.11672240

>>11665280
>A third of U.S. teenagers haven’t read a book for pleasure in at least a year,
And the other two thirds are reading Jordan Memerson and bell hooks

And That's A Good Thing

>> No.11672390

>>11666305
Well he may be a Catholic priest, so a great many.

>> No.11672464

>>11672390
>Catholic priest
>teenagers

>> No.11672496

Weeeeell I mean its nothing but the result of capitalist culture, you know

>> No.11672549

>>11671770
The disparity between my classmates and I in literacy was one of the reasons I ended up hating them so much; I was reading at a college level in 8th grade while half of the class was barely at grade level and the smart ones didn't give a shit about the discussion beyond what was relevant to their grades so as a class we never had any productive or interesting discussions, just touched on bullet points and moved to the next item on the curriculum. I think I actually developed the precocious child's equivalent of alcoholism because of it, frying my brain on garbage YA books because there was no literary stimulation to be had anywhere else.

>> No.11672574

>>11672549
>the smart ones didn't give a shit about the discussion beyond what was relevant to their grades
Because that's what school is there for. It's a shitty environment for discussions and learning, so might as well get your A and fuck off.

>> No.11672755

>>11665334
>probably

>> No.11673573

>>11665392
That sounds like the set up for a cyberpunk setting. In fact it reminds me of Cyberpunk 2020 lore

>> No.11673594

>>11672755
I would be shocked if half the population read a book for pleasure in the last year.

>> No.11673627

>>11665551
I go to my near community college to watch plays, and I see a good amount of people go.

>> No.11674203

>>11665658
high-low in culture is now completely divorced from high-low in wealth

>> No.11675293

>>11674203
Apparently, "high culture" was eating salad out of unwashed bowls.

>> No.11675529

>>11665588
>lets get another neo-con in the white house
no thank you

>> No.11675542

>>11665280
Probably a lot higher desu. Id say out of everyone i know at work only 2 read, less than 1/10