/lit/ - Literature

This is the last one.

>>11661913
>lists Rand, Stirner, and Nietzsche back to back
Low quality bait. There are real egoist philosophers, you know. Look further into responses to epistemological skepticism.

>>11661913
>I've noticed that egoists aren't welcome here.

why is that a problem? do you depend upon the welcomeness of others?

>>11661913
Read D'annunzio. Watch Busby Berkeley films.

>>11661931
No but most of the criticisms of Rand are completely, 100% inaccurate. They have never read a book by Ayn Rand in their life. I have even noticed that higher-up intellectuals have committed this crime as well.

I watched a video a few weeks ago in which Sam Harris completely misinterpreted Ayn Rand. Christopher Hitchens gave a few witty remarks and then some fish mongerer titled the video "Christopher Hitchens destroys Ayn Rand." But that isn't too relevant.

It's unpleasant having to scroll through kids criticizing something that they've never read.

>>11661927
>>11661952
>lists Rand, Stirner, and Nietzsche back to back
>adds Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens to the pile
>ignores my first post
Extreme bait

>>11661952
atlas shrugged still sells 400 000 copies a year and yes ive seen many people dismissing it when i know they havent read it.

theyre oblivious and fuck them.
its trendy to hate this book and ive been really puzzled by that for a long time. people think its basically about being selfish and thats all that it is...no.

its about having class, quality, value, being responsible for yourself. basically telling people in 2018 that you are responsible for yourself is offensive to snowflakes barring the fact vast majority havent even read her stuff

>>11661913
>calls women femoids
>Thinks we care about his opinion

This board respects women, ya dingus

>>11661915
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>>11661925
Why are you posting these if the video game was a criticism of this ideology

>>11661952
>higher-up intellectuals
>Sam Harris
>Christopher Hitchens
Ok I get it, it's because you're a retard. Makes sense.

>>11663398
As a book is utter shit, as "philosophy" is utter shit. What's to praise?

>>11663540
I never played the game but I like the aesthetic.

If it's a criticism of the ideology, it is a poor one because there are major differences between the game and the actual philosophy.

>>11663593
>I never played the game
>there are major differences between the game and the actual philosoph

>>11661918
What game?

>>11661913
>I've noticed that egoists aren't welcome here
what the...

Read Renzo Novatore you pleb

>>11663546
You'd be surprised by how many people have never really pondered the fact that their actions, and the influence of the media they consume, have consequences that aren't immediately visible. Not even trying to be edgy in a "reeee fucking normies" way either.

>>11663526
You are worse than him. Kill yourself.

>>11663540
Ryan did nothing wrong parasite.

>>11663619
Bioshock

>>11663606
The difference was so major I didn’t need to play the game to see them

>>11663874
So much for Diogenes.

Don't go any further and stop before you peak inside the rabbit-hole.
Stirnerists are an actual thing on twitter and other platforms and they are completely tumblerised. While I don't want to use tumbler as buzzword too lightly, it fits quite perfectly in this case. They are obsessed with matters like the whole trans-shabang and they throw labels on anything.
There is barely anything that goes beyond ironic remarks.

Read up books on the topic of egoism and make your own judgement.
This applies to egoism more than anything else in my opinion.

>>11663839
And yet you chose to post screencaps of a video game that had nothing to do with your ideology

>>11661913
Instagram.

>>11663398
>justin bieber sells the most records
>guess his music is really good

>>11663874
>the slot-quarter can replace the government at every turn and with untold levels of FRRRREEEEEDUUUUUUUUMMMMM
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department

>>11661913
>I imagine that I'll get into Nietzsche eventually

maybe then you'll stop being a retard

>>11661913
Honestly there aren't that many.

If your commited to egoism continue to read stirner, read Nietzsche, also check out Rnzol Novotore and Saul Newman

>>11664196
Not him but it PURPORTS to do something with my ideology.
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>>11663819
>I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Rapture. A city where the artist would not fear the censor. Where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality. Where the great would not be constrained by the small. And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well."
>not bound by petty morality
Whatever Andrew Ryan was; he was not an Objectivist. This is pure might makes right. Rand on the other hand stresses that might is to be subordinated to right. It is perfectly fine to further and augment might with right but only without contradicting it. Which means integration in an objective context.
Rand's revolutionary formulations in conceptual integration are what make Objectivism the first successfully formulated metaphilosophy in world history. In a hundred years it will be used as the baseline foundational referent for all postobjectivist philosophic thought. (If irrationalism doesn't wreck the world forever/for a very long time)
Don't take this to mean I consider Ayn Rand as the capstone to all philosophy. In fact I cannot conceive of what will be formulated once the truly earthshattering advances in artifical intelligence, matter replication, and transhuman technologies come.

>>11665818
>Rand on the other hand stresses that might is to be subordinated to right.

This is retarded. What is to do the subordinating? Oh right, might. Thus, might is to be subordinated to right via might - it can't be any other way. "Right" is when you've domesticated your subjects so thoroughly that they have internalized the threat of might.

>>11665879
Fear is not a stimulant. Only a depressant.
For Ayn Rand, politics is not a starting point in our thinking about man and society, but a conclusion that rests on deeper philosophical principles. Advocates of her philosophy of Objectivism, she writes, “are fighting for that philosophical base which capitalism did not have and without which it was doomed to perish.” At the foundation of a free society, Objectivism holds, is the metaphysical-epistemological principle that the individual survives by choosing to use his mind and the moral principle that the good is to pursue his self-interest and achieve his own happiness.
In her essay “Man’s Rights,” Rand explains why the widely misunderstood and often distorted concept of individual rights presupposes this philosophical foundation and is the key concept to creating a society consistent with man’s nature and the freedom he requires to live, think and flourish. In “The Nature of Government,” she explains why government is necessary to secure and protect the rights of the individual — and why government is legitimate only when this is its sole function.

>>11661913
sade is more based than any of those. read juliette.

>>11661927
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>>11664248
>seriously engaging with obvious bait

>>11661913
i've only read harry potter books 1,2 and 4 and the hobbit. what is ayn rand about? is it worth reading?

>>11666061
Ayn rand is a sequel to magic treehouse

>>11661913
They irony of an egoist bitching about society not wanting to deal with their shit isn't lost on you, r-right?

>>11666061
You've heard and vaguely understood the western phrase "common sense" right?
What that really means is the simple application of Aristotlean logic. Aristotle is the father of logic itself, and the man whom you owe a thanks for literally everything in the world around you.
Rand's philosophy of Objectivism is the complex application of it and the great metaconceptual validation of Capitalism's morality.
That's as /layman/ as I can put it.

>>11666089
One would think the appeal of Egoism is that you can let your thoughts and ideas float god knows where.

>>11666188
That'd be Stirner and Nietzsche but not Rand. She termed what you describe as "whim worship".

>>11666182
yeah but whats the plot

>>11666311
Extolling the industrial bussiman as the most heroic example of human being in the world and chronicling his fight against the irrational, deceptive, and savage as well as explaining the cause at the root of all of it.
Railroads and their managment used as a subject to associate the reader with reality.

>>11663526
(You)

>>11661913
> i imgine ill get into Nietzsche
he wasn’t an egoist and lambasts egoism multiple times especially in his later works

>>11663540
>retard
Read Foucault