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thoughts on this literary kino?

>> No.11610754

Art of the Deal is better.

>> No.11610767

>>11610754
It really isn't.

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>>11610751
>tfw the Obama Presidency Did Not Take Place

btw Trump is to Bataille what Obama was the Baudrillard. We are now living through an apocalyptic potlatch of sovereign excess. the nyt's frontpage increasingly indistinguishable from PornHub's

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>>11610751
That's the best you can do?

>> No.11610796

Such a pseud title, as was Dreams From My Father, that I never bothered with reading Obama. Any book written by a politician is thinly disguised self aggrandizing anyway.

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Thoughts on this literary kino?

I haven’t read “The Waste Land” for a year, and I never did bother to check all the footnotes. But I will hazard these statements—Eliot contains the same ecstatic vision which runs from Münzer to Yeats. However, he retains a grounding in the social reality/order of his time.

Facing what he perceives as a choice between ecstatic chaos and lifeless mechanistic order, he accedes to maintaining a separation of asexual purity and brutal sexual reality. And he wears a stoical face before this. Read his essay on Tradition and the Individual Talent, as well as Four Quartets, when he’s less concerned with depicting moribund Europe, to catch a sense of what I speak.

Remember how I said there’s a certain kind of conservatism which I respect more than bourgeois liberalism—Eliot is of this type. Of course, the dichotomy he maintains is reactionary, but it’s due to a deep fatalism, not ignorance. (Counter him with Yeats or Pound, who, arising from the same milieu, opted to support Hitler and Mussolini.)

And this fatalism is born out of the relation between fertility and death, which I touched on in my last letter—life feeds on itself. A fatalism I share with the western tradition at times. You seem surprised at Eliot’s irreconcilable ambivalence; don’t you share this ambivalence yourself, Alex?

>> No.11610829

>>11610767
It really is.

>> No.11610839

>>11610821
obama aged into the incarnation of bourgeois liberalism.

>> No.11610849

>>11610796
I'd hazard a guess that his (and most politicians') books are mostly ghostwritten. I mean, do you even think people actually read them? It seems more likely to me that they are just kept as fancy paperweights.

>> No.11610882

>>11610821
Smarter than /lit/

>> No.11610902

>>11610751
>da city of hope
Is that book about detroit??

>> No.11610929

>>11610849
they are definitely ghostwritten, as are his speeches and almost everything he says. He's an actor more than a politician.

Trump is genuinely weird in that sense, i don't know the last time the Americans had a President that wasn't reading a script

>> No.11610972

>>11610929
>he thinks Trump writes his own speeches
Yikes they told me /pol/ was dumb but I didn't think they were THIS dumb

>> No.11610980

>>11610972
not his speeches, the random shit he is always saying. Like in those debates when hed pull out the most bizarre statements

and im not pol and don't care about Trump

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>>11610751
It's a "clapper."

It's not meant to change anyone's mind, it's meant to make his fans applaud louder.

>> No.11611017

>>11610839
He really did. He is the Jesus of their religion. I just got back from visiting a liberal friend and his family, and they had this book prominently displayed in their living room like some sort of idol. Creepy af.

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>>11611017
>go round a collegues house and he literally has a picture of Obama on the dresser next to pictures of his own family

>> No.11611078

>>11611017
Drop the "friend" ASAP

>> No.11612646

Anyone knows what those fonts on the title are? I'm thinking that replacing it with "The audacity of that whore" might be funny

>> No.11612687

>>11610839
Studying American law tends to do that to people.

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>>11612646
Nevermind I did it.
I don't even know why. It's not even that funny I think.