/lit/ - Literature

Read a new translation if possible as the old one contain some minor errors that fuck up continuity!

Superior female

milf pusey

Moon landing das fake.
Aliens exist, and demons exist as well.

>>11547332
Is he straight?

>>11547251
>Extra dimensional beings
The gods themselves is one of the more bullshit stories I've read. Too much metaphysical mumbo jumbo for me.

>>11547332
>be a mormon
>not a fundamentalist
It's like going to the movies blindfolded.

I just finished my novel, /sffg/. It's fantasy (which is why I'm posting about it here) but I like to think that it avoids the vast majority of the more pedestrian fantasy cliches. Anyway, I would like some advice on getting it published. I'm not a career writer (I have a well-paying job that is not in that field) so I'm not interested in trying to make a ton of money. I just want as many people to have access to it as possible. And, hopefully, receive some combination of positive feedback to make me feel better about myself and critical feedback to make me a better writer in the future.

My options seem to be:
1) Self-publishing on Amazon. Seems like the gold standard, but I have concerns about rights and stuff. I would like to be able to make the book available for free to anyone.
2) Wattpad. Free for everyone, but it seems like the community is mostly YA schlock, romance and fanfiction. My story is none of those, so I'm not sure if this is the best fit.
3) Webnovel. Also free for everyone but it seems like this community is mostly isekai or romance. Again, my story is neither, so this might not be the best fit.
4) All of the above--try to reach as wide of an audience as possible.

Any experience with some of these options or any other general advice?

>>11547406
I'd go for self-publishing on amazon. It's easier and broader, and although some of its books are bad, there's enough good stuff to make up for it and create a reader base. Try to find out the rights and if you can publish it in other stores as well, with the recent amazon stuff happening, being a hostage seems like a bad deal.

What's it about?

>>11547406
Post some cute feet pics and the manuscript and i'll send it along to my friend who works in publishing.

>>11547463
footfags should neck themselves

>>11547406
Unless it’s a shitty romance or smut story, prolly best to put it out for free to get views

>>11547588
>free stuff gets views
I don't bother downloading most free stuff I see. I figure them to be so shitty as to be worthless.

>>11547406
Amazon seems to work okay. I put my fantasy there the other week and have earned like a fifty so far - but I've also met a bunch of guys who really liked it and that shit's priceless.

super sales 3?
Daniel Black 4?
Dungeons Deposed 2?

>>11547642
Yes! Yes! Yes!

>>11547251
Moon landing was absolutely fake.

also, read this

>>11547650
Asking when they are being released

>>11547642
>super sales 3?
in about 2-3 months
>Daniel Black 4?
read the blog
>Dungeons Deposed 2?
after super sales 3. i think he is writing a wuxia novel currently ive never read wuxia.

>>11547740
>i think he is writing a wuxia novel currently
He is also according to his patreon
https://www.patreon.com/WilliamDArand/posts
The first few chapters of Super Sales 3 are already done. This is just deduction on my part though since you cant read the post if you dont contribute.

>>11547740
>i think he is writing a wuxia novel currently
Keeping his habit of writing shit, I guess.

>>11547440
The main character's story is a simple enough one. Sort of coming-of-age, finding one's place in the world, hubris, pride, downfall.

The more interesting aspect is the setting--tribal culture, pre-civilization. Everybody can use magic and there is a lot of cool (in my opinion) stuff about how the ubiquitous presence of magic has shaped the society into what it is. How it's similar to our own world but also how it's very different. So there's some cool anthropology/sociology stuff there, although I hope that it's more atmosphere than anything else. There is also a lot of ecology as I built the ecosystems and everything that lives in them. I read more sci-fi than fantasy so I guess it's kind of like a fantasy setting with a lot of scientific thought put into it.

>>11547796

>>11547740
>ive never read wuxia.

Okay basically imagine a character with the perfidious behavior and self-serving morals of Cugel from Jack Vance's Dying Earth stuff, but he's a Chinese guy who does wire kung fu with 「SPECIAL TECHNIQUES」. Prose is about the same as Vance too because the Chinese authors love that sort of flowery crap.

If it's Xianxia he will also spend a lot of time cooking magical pills that make him better at meditating to become more powerful.

>>11547831
so basically its just chinese martial arts but with elaborate explanations for fighting techniques like in anime?

>>11547406
Distribute it on your own website

>>11547796
Sounds cool. I hope the writing is good.

>>11547844
And ancient trees being blown to bits by punches.

>>11547852
This was another option I considered. But how do you get the word out about its existence?

>>11547868
>And ancient trees being blown to bits by punches.
i completely approve.

>>11547844
Chinese martial arts with power levels and magic
The end goal being able to become an immortal

>>11547406
post the first chapter so we can see

>>11547620
What's it called

>>11547882
Post it on sites like royal road, with a good amount of chapters + a colourful avatar you should get views

I recommend Dungeon Born to anymore looking for a fun series to read.

recommend a fantasy book/series where the aryan tomboy (female) protagonist is occasionally put in compromised positions/forced to wear revealing clothing.

>>11548071
The Straggler's Mask. I've brought it up a couple times around /lit/ but not in /sffg/ yet, I can't recall at least.

It's about this weak, timid, generally useless little bunny thing being half-accidentally assigned the role and the heavy responsibilities of an epic hero. It's still free on Amazon for a couple hours I think.

>>11548219
Not my cup of tea by the sounds of it.

>>11548215
Oh fuck off already. And stop posting trannies. You already have two threads up.

>>11548215
>trannies are considered tomboys now
This world is going to burn.

>>11548259
>You already have two threads up.
??
>>11548274
she's not a tranny, retard

>>11548308
Just stop posting trannies and fuck off.

>>11548308
>she's not a tranny, retard
>chin manlier than mine
>dat shoulder
>hiding man hands
Hey. It's okay if you are a faggot in the closet and just want to get man looking girls to keep up your cover. Just don't try to tell us that they are female. We don't indulge in insanity here.

>>11548317
nice projection homo
>>11548341
t. la creatura chinlet

if you don't want a gf with a chin you could cut your hand on you're a faggot

>>11548375
Just fuck off. There is a containment board for your kind for a reason.

>>11548341
don't forget the absolute lack of hips or thighs

>>11548382
It's probably some tranny-in-training, looking for shit to tug his feminine penis to.

Any fantasy were people argue about whether or not a person is a tranny?

>>11548396
Yeah the one were you leave never to come back.

>>11548396
My book has some women disguised as men if that counts. It's a fantasy staple.

>>11548381
>Just fuck off. There is a containment board for your kind for a reason.
>>11548382
>don't forget the absolute lack of hips or thighs
>>11548395
>It's probably some tranny-in-training, looking for shit to tug his feminine penis to.
>>11548404
>Yeah the one were you leave never to come back.

t.

>>11548411
Do guards get wary of them because of their jawline, shoulders and hands and start debating the issue?

>>11548428
I never thought about it, but imagine the kind of freaks the city guard has to deal with on daily basis, especially in a magical setting.

>>11548428
Maybe. It's not really in the focus.

>>11548442
It's pretty low-magic, at least at the start.

>>11548375
>he'll never fuck you with his feminine penis

>>11547710
>Moon landing was absolutely fake.
evidence

>>11548215
>>11548308
>>11548375
what's with her gigantic Karl Malden nose?

>>11548442
Poor lads need a raise.

>>11548479
If you were a tranny would you post some hot looking chick or the most mannish woman you can find? No one likes to be confronted with evidence of their inferiority.

>>11548450
Are you a different guy than >>11548219

>>11548500
>two actual authors on /sffg/ at the same time
You wish.

>>11548475
The fact we were able to "go" there in '69 but not in modern times because NASA claims they lost their tech to get there (which they never had in the first place)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9Bzi_GyD0

Post some /x/ books.

>>11548547
A moronic claim, you've obviously never worked in any sort of industry beyond food service.

Things get thrown out, people retire. When the cold war started Sandia actually had to reverse engineer major parts of the Little Boy atomic bomb because the knowledge of how they were made was "need to know", the documents were destroyed for security after WWII ended, and most of the people involved had retired or gone on to civilian jobs because it was going to be a "new age of peace." Later on in the early 00s they also had to reverse engineer a material used in hydrogen bombs called "Fogbank" because everybody who remembered how to make it had retired in the 80s but it turned out that after decades of sitting inside nuclear bombs it had degraded and needed to be replaced.

Likewise, the US Army now has hundreds of tanks they don't want because Congress has repeatedly blocked the shutdown of M1 Abrams production because it would cost more and take longer to regain the institutional knowledge needed to build tanks.

Most of the people who designed and built the Saturn Vs are dead or retired. The companies that built them are defunct, have merged with other companies, or out of the rocket business (Martin Marietta for example now makes concrete), and the production methods back then are obsolete and no longer used in industry.

>>11547740
When is the wild wastes 3 audiobook being released?

>>11549098
according to andreas twitter account shes finishing it up currently. seems like she was busy with apocalypse gates and dominion of blades. shes become really popular as of late.

>>11548547
So is the space x heavy falcon return boosters fake too? Have the video go in reverse?

>>11548219
Someone groused about it a couple threads back

>>11549106
>shes finishing it up currently
I hope that means a mid August release.
I need more "mouth" and lesw dryads.

>>11549091
That makes no sense. This is regarded as humanity's single greatest achievement yet they didn't care to ask or store all the information & technology somewhere. The fact that it is pushed and shilled as hard as it is is astounding considering NASA has been exposed time & time again with Freemasonic astroNOTs on wires & filming underwater

>>11549129
pff we all know petra is best girl followed closely by meliae.

>>11549110
SpaceX is obviously fake as fuck. You're telling me this looks real to you? Where are all the stars & supposed millions of satellites orbiting Earth? Why did the fiberglass car not burn up in the atmosphere if it was strapped to a fucking rocket?

At what point does Wheel of Time get interesting?

>>11549155
>that pic
ITS YOU ONE WAY TICKET TO MIDNIGHT
CALL IT
HEAVY METAL
HIGHER NOW
FEELING JUST RIGHT
CALL IT
HEAVY METAL NOISE

>>11549161
Never. If you'e going to waste your time on a mediocre 10-book series, read Malazan

>>11549169
I'm already 9 books in

>only 3 ratings on goodreads
dis gon be good

>finish a book/movie/album that really inspired me
>Try to write again
>Realize that I'm a stupid unoriginal piece of shit that can't come up with original characters or plots to save my life
>Give up for a bit
>Try again

Fuck, I hate this. I hate always feeling compelled to write too. Why can't I be an artist? Nobody objects to fan art.

>>11549169
Malazan has high points on a mediocre timeline though
WOT has almost mediocre points on a below-acceptable timeline

Crimson queen book 2 when REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Taking my hand in hers, I turned towards the Autarch. Glancing backwards, I saw Thecla’s eyes begin to water, her tears like golden sapphires against her ivory cheek. Gritting my teeth, I placed the back of my hand across her face and cradled her beautiful flesh. I wasn’t about to let a demon ruin everything. Everything I had worked so hard to protect. Ever since the death of my parents I’ve always felt this outrageous and tempestuous urge to protect the living, and I wasn’t about to let some freak ruin it all. Originias curse pulsed on the back of my neck as I took out my sword. A pain in the neck. Literally.
>“Hey, asshole”, I say defiantly.
>“Are you ready?” he smirked cruelly as he interrupts me. Taken aback, I ask in a tentative way,
>“Ready to what?” I barked back, my fists clenching.
>“Ready to die!”
>He rushed forward and yanked my arm out of it’s socket, but at this point I could no longer feel pain. I laugh. And then plunge my hand straight through his chest. Startled, he howled in trepidation and his alzabo tattoos convulsed, as the creatures below us hissed in a penurious attitude. But then, something happened. Something that I would never forget. Not even on my deathbed would I ever forget this. Even that moment when Autarch raped and tortured my mother, paled in comparison to this. Stuck inside this anfractuous maze, with my hand stuck inside the demon's chest, Thecla took a step forward and

BASED Wolfe.

>>11549131

>If a character is unlikable then they're poorly written

When will this retarded idea stop?

>>11549601
It's from the
>I can only parrot reviewers and "criticize" things using tvtrope buzzwords
crowd

>>11549226
Your problem is that you're reading too much good literature. Binge on some bottom of the barrel only-technically-not-a-fanfic shit or even just straight fanfiction. Once you see the bottomless well of fame and fortune plumbed by absolute retards who can barely string a sentence together let alone a plotline you'll feel less inadequate.

Personally, most of my inspiration to write comes from reading shit and thinking to myself that I could do better. That I HAVE done better and then thrown it out because it wasn't good enough. That the food in some restaurants is lower quality than things I've thrown in the trash.

Though probably most of your problem is just thinking about it too much. Basically you're a literature virgin, so you think everything is so goddamn important and difficult, when in reality it's about as formal and life changing as taking a dump.

>>11549639
Not that anon, but do you have any shit to recommend? The last trash I read was Super Sales.

>>11549601
is there anything more kino than having empathy for antagonistic characters

>>11549226
Same. I'm better than I used to be tho so I think I can get there eventually.

>>11549601
is there anything more kino than writers showing empathy for antagonistic characters

>>11549646
Michael Scott "Banned from Amazon" Earle.

Just finished pic related, wow what a fucking dank series. Melanie though, holy shit I cannot think of another fictional character I hate more.

18% in on worm im getting bored, is it worth continuing

>>11550071
What exactly are you bored with? And what's 18%?

Speaking of worm, did worm 2 ever get good?
I quit after the chapter about Ni;bog's monster finding him, felt like it didn't really matter that the fucking entire world exploded and I hated all the main characters.

>>11550071
No.

>>11550117
the story and the characters are just not interesting enough for me to spend my time on reading
18% means im 18% progress into the book, my epub reader use that kind of progress instead of pages

i didnt even know there was a worm 2

>>11550119
i will drop this then

>>11550144
I mean where are you actually in the story? 18% means nothing to me. And yeah, if you're not into it now you should probably bail. I really liked it and even I had to essentially force myself through the last half.

Almost finished with this one, Malazan boiz

>>11549601
Worse yet is when someone hates a book because a character is unlikable.

>>11550170
after the first endbringer, i really enjoy the world though

>>11550172
I'm telling my barber to give me this haircut.

https://www.royalroadl.com/fiction/5701/savage-divinity
the reviews there are really good, any of you anons are into webnovels and have read it?

>>11550183
Yeah, that's why I forced myself to finish it. Setting-wise it really does get better and more interesting as it goes on, but everything else starts off meh and gradually slides into ugh.

I want to read about romance but with a robot

and not just any robot but a robot that doesn't look anything like a person

please help me /sffg/ your my only hope

Aliens don't exist. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed withouy evidence.

>>11550197
i need some spoiler, will the mc develop a stronger ability or another ability and become OP or is she just like that the whole story

>>11550203
you dont exist

>>11550214
True there is no evidence that poster exists outside of a fragment of my imagination, same as you 2bh.

>>11550218
who was post???

>>11550207
She gradually employs more and more bullshit using her power (for example coating her bugs in contact irritants and poison, importing exotic and highly dangerous insects from around the world, using her bug-sense to augment her marksmanship to superhuman levels), including a few "cheats" due to interactions with other character's powers(for example genetically engineered giant superbugs, tinkertech equipment remote operated by insects flipping switches), but right up until the end of the story she's just using bugs and bug accessories. However, at the VERY end, she gets another cape to perform a super-lobotomy on her and forces her power into working on ALL living creatures, in addition to going absolutely batshit insane but that's barely any of the story.

>>11550182
A completly valid reason to not like a book if said character is the MC and the author thinks they're writing him cool.

>>11549111
And funny enough, got me to pick up the book. I've always liked Moorcock and figured that fantasy needs more weird shit.

I'm in the couple last chapters now and it's okay I guess. I like the characters, the setting's got a couple high notes (like bird people funeral practices), plenty of weird cryptic references to history and what's going on behind the horizon, and spaceships. The main character grows organically but still hasn't beem hugged. Kinda meandering, though - could've easily chopped out a couple chapters without losing anything from the story.

Oh, and the courage was inside of him all along, who woulda thunk.

>>11550253
lmao so what it's supposed to be a bittersweet heroric sacrifice ending or some shit?

>>11550291
Sort of? By the end so much has gone wrong that it's less "heroic sacrifice" and more "justified suicide". And everyone hates her afterward because she brainjacked them all into "heroically sacrificing" themselves.

You wanna go full on super spoilers? There's some interesting setting details that get dumped at the end, including what the "final battle" was actually fighting against and it's outcome.

>>11550284
Writing any good?

>>11549161
Never. You could edit it down to like four-five books.

>tfw finished all Conan by Howard
What's next, Solomon Kane?

>>11547251
Do SJWs read? I'd like to hear their opinions on Brother's Price.

>In a world where males are rarely born, they've become a commodity-traded and sold like property. Jerin Whistler has come of age for marriage and his handsome features have come to the attention of the royal princesses. But such attentions can be dangerous-especially as Jerin uncovers the dark mysteries the royal family is hiding.

>>11550331
About Moorcock-tier, so don't hold your hopes up.

Also, English pretty obviously isn't the author's native language (I think he's Indonesian or something). There are a few grammatical errors and clumsy wording.

Plenty of footnotes too. That's a hit or miss, I guess, but I liked them in Discworld and I like them here.

>>11547272
slut

>Rothfuss, GRRM, Abercrombie, Tolkien, Rowling, Lynch, Novik
these are the only fantasy authors worth reading. The rest are nobodies, although I enjoyed some of the stories in the anthology book Rogues, particularly 'The Inn of the Seven Blessings'.

>>11550540
Forgot to mention Sanderson.

>>11550540
When you've read over 700 sff books, then you can come back and list "authors worth reading".

>>11550551
Quality over quantity, nerd. Who the fuck reads 700 books on fantasy shit

>>11550557
>Quality over quantity
>the small sample of 7 authors is an objective show of quality
>you reading a quantity of 700+ sff books does not expose you to more authors allowing you to make better judgement calls on quality
>Who the fuck reads

>>11550540

>>11550557
I too can tell about books without reading them: Abercombie is shit and his fans know nothing.

>>11547710
Reading it now, no clue what is happening

>>11550540
cringe

>>11547251
Out of all the stories you've read, which one had the best take/twist on one of the characters having amnesia?

>>11550540
What about Bakker?
Can't forget about him.
He's better than Abercrombie at least.

>>11550790
No modern authors are better than Abercrombie.
This is an established fact.

It would be incredibly stupid to say that in some way, aliens do jot exsist, if space it someething that goes on forever there is 100% chance of there being aliens

>>11550827
>if space it someething that goes on forever
It has been proven that the universe is finite though.

>>11550827
It's not a fact that there ARE aliens, just that there WAS and/or there WILL be. It's not just a question about space, but time: even if a civilization has managed to be around for a million years, it's still just a speck of dust in universal lifespan, and the odds of two such civilizations having had their lives overlap are pretty minuscule.

>>11550680
Latro, without a doubt.

>>11550071
Probably, if you can't get into it after arc 8 then you're wasting your time.

>>11550117
Depends on what you mean by "get good." If you mean that it's not like Worm, then no.

>>11550386
>ywn be bought by cute princesses

>>11549226
I can't plot a story to save my fucking life. I can pull off a short story but I've never gotten further than 1.5k words into chapter 1 for an actual book.

>>11549639
based and redpilled

>>11545650

I don't think so, but pay me 30 dollars and I'll make one for you

>>11550386
>gender roles are socially constructed
>men would be docile slaves instead of pimp clan chiefs

A city ship plows onward hundreds of years into the unplumbable darkness at the edge of the universe to see if anything is on the other side. Tensions rise and a revolt causes the captain to continue his mission with a single companion. A few hundred years later (they regularly swap off using suspended animation for weeks at a time) he dies of a heart attack, alone in the blackness.
The prose is spare and riddled with typos. There's one on the very first page. I'm not sure an editor even read it cause there were a lot of places that spaces were missing and two or three words ran together. Overall somewhat depressing and no real payoff. 2/5 lizard heads

>>11549543
>replyiing with brainlet memes instead of an actual response

typical cognitive dissonance

>>11550817
I came this thread after months and now that I've read this comment, I know to never return.
Even certain subreddits are better than this.

>>11551530
Not him, but he's right though?

>Can barely tolerate general fantasy
>Most of the shit you read in the genre is fringe stuff that barely fits it

I don't know why I even come to these threads.

Which fantasy setting has the deepest lore?

>>11551666
Unironically Middle-Earth.

>>11551666
Malazan

>>11549145
Petra is dedtho

>>11551666
Wheel of Time

>>11551719
she got revived as a human tho.

>>11551708
>>11551726
l o l
>>11551666
Nice trips. And out of books? Probably Middle-Earth. I guess if we're going beyond that TES might count - even if the lore is all over the place it's far more interesting than what most of the retards in this place consider good worldbuilding, as evidenced above.
I can just imagine what kind of half-human troglodyte with constant spittle dribbling from his fat fucking mouth would sit down and write Malazan or Wheel of Time for deep or good anything with their pudgy fingers, eager to put another Cheeto or Dorito or whatever the fuck it is Americans eat into their disgusting mouths.

WHAT WENT WRONG??

I'm looking for a soft-SF read for my trainride to Berlin. You guys read anything recently which you can recommend?

>>11551875
jews.

>>11551865
The absolute rudeness.

>>11551882
i would actually recommend a collection of short stories, rather than a novel. Dick comes to mind--his stories are almost always interesting but not overly technical.

>>11551882
Space Captain Smith

>>11551882
How is that boy so soft

>58 page full of this
what the fuck

>>11550680
Gavin/Dazen's Black Luxin-induced amnesia in the Lightbringer series.

>>11548547
NASA had up towards 4.5% of the total federal budget back then, now they are at around 0.5%, and they have changed to having one or a few tasks to a whole bunch of them. We would have no problem to reach the moon again if we decided that to be the main goal. Instead we have a permanently manned station in Earth's orbit, we are collecting data for quantum physics theory, we're actively exploring the potential for extraterrestial life on Mars and Europa, landing on asterioids, inching closer to the Sun to get a better understanding of it, and a bunch of sattelites dedicated to anything from telecommunications to aiding research helping us understand our own planet.

We barely go a week without a new launch from somewhere in the world, the next planned launch is on Tuesday the 7th from Florida, and you are saying that we are unable to go to the moon today if we decided that is the most important thing we could do.

What are some nice space adventures? Something like Star Wars. I've read Horus Heresy and I don't want more Warhammer stuff. Anything else?
It should be comfy and it should emphasise magic. I don't want real-sci or sci-fi fantasy by a guy that's just too stupid to write sci-fi and settled for less.

Mila watched as Rain swung away at the wooden log. He'd been at it since he arrived, almost two hours ago. The sun had long set, and he still swung away, illuminated by torchlight, fiercely determined to destroy as many logs as he could. What an idiot.
Her best friend adored this odd, log-hating, training maniac of a loner. Lin would always gush about her 'Big Brother Rainy'. Mila just didn't understand what Lin saw in him. He spent all his free time training. A boring statue given life.

>>11552275
the galactic mage

Is it just me, or is there a dearth of Greco-Roman inspired fantasy (at least compared to Medieval Western Europe stuff)? What is up with that?

pic related

this book and its series outlines a great plausible hypothesis for the Fermi 'paradox'. Won't spoil the story but it's interdimensional. The characters are somewhat idosyncratic - you can tell it's written with more of an emphasis on the science involved rather than character development.

>>11552411
Nah I’ve noticed it too. A Greek City’s era fantasy setting would be class.

>>11552411
It turns out most writers would rather rehash something safe they're familiar with, rather than exploring even vaguely new ground.

>>11552277
cool

>>11552605
I've got native South American cultures fairly heavily involved in mine, and also Egypt.

That any better?

>>11552655
Only if it's actually good. Inventiveness means fuckall if you can't write a proper story with it.

>>11552637
If you can't do justice to new ideas, you'd better stick with the old ones. That too may be why so many authors stick to medieval fantasy.

Anyway, I've been shilling the book in this thread for a bit. >>11548219

Feel free to pick it up to judge whether I managed any.

>>11552566
I thought the most plausible answer to Fermi's paradox was that there were no other intelligent life.

>>11552288
The girl is insufferable though, I stopped at book 2

>>11549493
>anfractuous

immersion complete

>>11550189
It's pretty good he might charge extra

>>11547620
>>11548219
i'm the anon asking for advice about publishing, earlier in the thread. how did you get your cover artwork? i have no visual artistic talent myself and it really seems like books are judged based on their covers (especially in highly saturated markets).

>>11552891
you pay a dude who draws good a bunch of money

>>11552898
but how do you find these dudes who draw good and are willing to draw good for you for money?

>>11552912
I just kept my eyes open for art that I like and that seems to match the kind of style and tone I'm going for.

Ultimately, I saw this image and I was like, "Yeah he could do some cool fantasy shit for me". My book's cover is up in his gallery now.

>>11552912
Having an aesthetically pleasing cover is a rarity in the SFFG ghetto.

>>11552912
deviantart

>>11552288
ah right, the books by that guy who claimed he was being fatshamed because a girl was hitting on him at a gym.

>>11552411
David Drake draws from a lot of Greek/Roman mythology/history for his stuff, because he minored in Latin and history before getting sent to Vietnam.

He's got one series with Eric Flint where the Romans and Persians have to team up against evil aliens that took over India IIRC.

>>11552981
>Having an aesthetically pleasing cover is a rarity in the SFFG ghetto.
Whatever do you mean anon?

>>11553003
The Belisarius series?

>>11552939
what is a fair pricepoint for a book cover?

>>11553035
>This series was inspired by The Tick, Stranger Things, Deadpool, Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions, and the anime Elfen Lied.
yikes....

>>11553105
Depends how complex it is and how much it has going on. You can consider yourself lucky if you can get a good cover for less than a hundred dollars. I paid 280 for mine.

>>11553115
That is the kind of shit this general reads.

>>11553145
A few do I'm sure. The rest not so much.

>>11547251
Anyone here read Altered Carbon? Worth a read?

>>11553145
I read supers ex heroes. It was shit.
I thought the black gril gale chick was chubby thicc. Did she lose weight? she looks normal on that cover.

>>11553145
>>11553227
Also where is the catgirl/fox girl?

>>11553218
It's alright. Action/detective story in a fairly interesting future, if that might interest you.

>>11553185
Yeah the rest are on book 9 of hojilion in The Thief of Quartz Roses or something.

>>11553227
>>11553232
You couldn't find any more interesting way to pass time? Like jerking off?

>>11553349
What are you reading?

>>11553368
Finishing Declare by Tim Powers.

>>11553185
I can appreciate puerile power fantasies if they're well executed. To use action movies as examples, Cobra, Total Recall, Commando, the first Universal Soldier movie, Savage Beach, stuff like that.

But most of them aren't on that level. They're basically genderswapped "Viking Navy SEAL" romance novels.

Fucking christ, can I get a book that's not another boring human? And no, I'm not talking about some shit where the fantasy species are just humans with different skin or fur. I want a book where they have completely different perspectives, personality types, and biology.

>>11551897
Wrong. The correct answer was Tumblr.

Kane Chronicles is the shit though.

>>11553404
Ayo hol up, hol up.
How you gonna fuck dem aliens if they ain't just humans with different skin or fur?

>>11552912
look for artists on furaffinity duh

>>11553434
tasp

>>11553404
Fags wouldn't by it because, "If I can't relate to it then it's bad writing!"

>>11553404
>skulks in the dark like a constantly spooked rabbit; lives in the dark corners of your house or deep under forest roots, never seen or heard; good night vision, sunlight like hellfire
>literally scared of his own shadow: thinks it's his soul that's gonna eat him if given the chance
>dark is good, light is bad
>sees beauty in differences: the less you look like him, the prettier you are
>simultaneously a pack creature and anxious around those bigger than himself: constantly a little uncomfortable
>doesn't get human hierarchies: what is king?
>basically a dream or nightmare given physical form

Some of this is social stuff that he eventually overcomes, but I suppose it still counts.

>>11553404
Sanderson awaits you

>>11552912
Nigga do you have any idea how stoked any random artist on pixiv or tumblr would be to get a book cover job?

>>11552912
ill literally do one for you right now if you gave me 50 bucks

>>11550182
Thomas Covenant is annoying as fuck and I'll die happy without reading more than the first book. Yeah I've read spoilers about the last book. I just don't care that he stops being an asshole. I'm not going to waste time reading two more novels about him to get to his redemption.
otoh, I like several Bret Easton Ellis novels.

>>11550680
The first series of Amber books by Roger Zelazny.

Rand:RAAAAAAAAHVIIIIIIIIIIN!
Rahvin:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

>>11553592
Eshonai replacing Shallan as a pov character in Stormlight would improve the quality of it immensely.

>>11554321
He didn't even kill her lmao

what font do you use on your epub reader

>>11554921
papyrus.

>>11554921
Caecilia

Hey so quick and kinda dumb question, in a lot of scifi stories there are space habitats that are spun to generate artificial gravity. If you jumped off the floor on one of these would you fall back down? Would somebody climbing a ladder to replace a lightbulb (sorry, that's not scifi enough, "glow panel") have to tether themselves to avoid flying off?

>>11554955
It depends on the size of the habitat; the bigger it is the less noticeable the Coriolis effect is.
An o'neil cylinder would have zero gravity in the middle but you wouldn't notice it until you're far up (your ladder would be fine)

>>11554955
Yes you fall down, no they don't have to tether

>>11554987
Not the other anon but I imagine this would have some interesting effects on aircraft inside a O'Niel cylinder. Take off at near-earth gravity but you fly into low gravity and the ground is constantly rotating under you.

>>11555024
Pretty much, yeah

>>11550034
Yeah she’s fucking awful. Books were some of the best sci fi I’ve read. Going to start the void trilogy soon

www.royalroadl.com/fiction/5701
this is good

I am not much of a reader but for some reason, I have been longing for an epic, high as fuck fantasy to swallow me up.

I've watched all the bullshit, but it's time to just, sit down with something and shut out the world.

I'm not scared. Give it to me straight.

>>11555293
this is how you get memed

Almost every story in this was amazing

>>11549493

I've started reading this two days ago, not very satisfied with it so far.

>>11555392
is the movie only a part of the book?

>>11555415
Yeah it's a collection of short stories, Arrival is based on only one of them

>>11554926
kek

Anyone else love the R. Scott Bakker's works (Prince of Nothing Series)?

Absolutely love that shit, I need to finish reading White-Luck Warrior one of these days

>>11555434
>he hasn't finished aspect emperor
GNARLED WRINKLY FACE ANUSES BEING RAPED
LITERAL GAY INCESTUOUS RAPE
MORIA BUT WITH RAPE ALIENS
TURGID SPEWING PHALLUSES BLOODILY RAPING
RAPE ALIENS VS RAPE DEMONS VS RAPE ARMY
INTERRACIAL GAY INCESTUOUS MIND RAPE

And that's not even half of it! You're missing out.

Can you guys please recommend good urban fantasy series? I read a few Dresden Files and Demon Accords and I am really in the mood for something quality

>>11555392
two stories were pretty good. i thought the others were bad. the title story is the best though.
>>11555293
check OP. fantasy flowchart or selected should have something

>>11555548
There is no "quality". It's all varying degrees of trash.

>>11555589
TRUTH

>>11547251
Has anyone read 1632? Or Ring of Fire, I guess. Considering reading it but there's a ton of books so I'm fishing for some opinions.

>>11555293
>I'm not scared. Give it to me straight
Epic high fantasy is generally garbage.

>>11555024
Not quite, the physics of the situation is kind of wonky it's hard to describe if you can't visualize that you're on the inside of a rotating cylinder and that the reason you feel any 'gravity' is because your body is trying to move spinward and out. When you jump you move spinward (at the same speed as the cylinder), but completely counter-act the force 'pulling' you out. Since there is no gravitational attraction or acceleration, instead of 'falling' you move spinward until you've traveled horizontally enough to run into the cylinder again which is arced and coming back up to meet you. If it weren't arced, you'd instead just fly away like you were released from a sling - from an outside perspective you're actually moving in a straight line but the cylinder gets in the way. This is why it feels kind of like you're in a gravitational environment.

>>11547710
Wilson is a degenerate boomer who fell for the DMT psy-op.

>Pick up this a few weeks ago because I like the Divine Comedy
>Intro by Larry Niven saying he wanted to update it to make the protagonist more cynical because Dante's Catholicism was too "naive" for modern audiences
>Literally ends with the protagonist leaving Hell because he was sorry and didn't want to be there anymore

Wow, thanks Larry! I'm sure glad it isn't naive anymore!...faggot.

>>11555434
You're 3 years late, Bakker used to be the hottest shit around here.

>>11555548
Guards! Guards!

>>11555666
>Literally ends with the protagonist leaving Hell because he was sorry and didn't want to be there anymore
>Wow, thanks Larry! I'm sure glad it isn't naive anymore!...faggot.
Nice digits, satan.

>>11555892
You mean that in three years or so this general will stop spamming that Mormon?
The future is bright.

>>11556040
Nope, he'll have several more subjectively good books out by then.

>>11556106
Trolling should be subtle anon.

>>11556040
I honestly don't feel like Sanderson is being spammed at all, there's hardly any discussion. However, the thread will probably turn into Sanderson General again next time he release a Stormlight book.

>>11556134
If only other authors could have such adoring fans.
For all the fellating Peter Watts gets here I don't think anyone mentioned The Freeze-Frame Revolution when it came out.
Also "Ten books are planned in the series, broken down into two sets of five books each". What the fuck? Is this guy paid by page or something?

>>11555469
Fuck me, and to think I was actually going to read that shit.

>>11555293
Wheel of Time

>>11554921
Whatever the default is

>She continues to cry and offer advice, most of it amounting to 'don't die', which is fair considering how often I come close to death. It's a great feeling knowing someone loves you this much, but I think some separation is good. Maybe she'll meet a handsome young man in the city and fall in love. She's in the springtime of her youth and she's spending it in love with me, instead of with someone more age appropriate. Soon, her words are incomprehensible as she cries into my chest, tears staining my shirt, her tiny arms wrapped around me as I pat her back and try to comfort her.
>tfw nobody will care about me this much

>>11556745
>first person present tense

>>11556765
it's a webnovel

>>11555627
I enjoyed the first and second book, but the worldbulding get extremely annoying in the latter books if you don't know european history of that time. I'd recommend reading the first two and if you want more continue following the reading order recommended on the authors page. If you want other "displace in time and trying to survive stories" ask me and I shall provide.

>>11556787
>First person present tense
>in a WEBNOVEL

>>11555469
That sounds so fun. I am gonna read it.
After being memed into picking up Baru Cormorant and Meddling Kids, how bad can this be?

Lame question: Should I read A Canticle for Leibowitz if I like fallout?

>>11557086
You should read The Canticle on account of it being a good book. I don't see how modding your waifu in a video game has anything to do with reading this novel, besides both being in the post-apoc genre.

>>11555392
Chiang is just great. Story of Your Life is probably my favorite short story, tied with Aimee Bender's The Color Master. (Technically, I haven't read Color Master but I've listened to it multiple times on the Selected Shorts podcast.)

>>11557262
If I have no Mouth is not your favorite short you deserve to be tormented by Harlan

>>11557299
Harlan fucking hated the story himself.

I made a horrible mistake and stumbled onto /r/fantasy. Please tell me these lunatics are a minority in the fantasy community. Right now their top posts are agreeing with some chimp that's crying about "eurocentric" fantasy and how there's not enough people of color.

>>11557358
I don't think that particular brand of self-hatred has anything to do with fantasy as a genre.
People like that are crying about lack of "people of color" in everything.

>>11557358
There's more od them than the opposite, but the vast majority still just wants to read good stuff.

>>11557358
>Please tell me these lunatics are a minority
You already knew the answer, and it isn't the one you wanted to hear. Welcome to the club.

>>11557299
>hailed as the best pessimistic and misanthropic short story ever
>it's actually optimistic and appreciative of human nature
Brainlets everywhere. Also, it's hardly the best short story.

>>11555548
Kate Daniels is good, and the Craft Sequence stuff.

It's a finished series but I suppose Wolfhound Century by Peter Higgins counts.

>>11557358
>Right now their top posts are agreeing with some chimp that's crying about "eurocentric" fantasy and how there's not enough people of color.

cool fake news tovarish

>Hi everyone! Given N.K. Jemisin's recent tweets on the subject of diversity in fantasy, I wanted to share my thoughts on why I don't think we should see "eurocentric fantasy" as something negative and why it is perhaps dangerous to pigeonhole the whole of Europe into the same slot.

>First of all, I think that when people mention the term "eurocentric" they usually mean Western Europe. The culture of the West is much different to that of Central or Eastern Europe. There is still a lot to explore in the folkore, mythology, religion and cultures of Eastern European countries. One needs only to compare the Witcher by Andrzej Sapkowski (and he's by far not the only great Eastern European fantasy or sci-fi author, there is for example Stanisław Lem the author of Solaris) or Uprooted by Naomi Novik or the Children of Earth and Sky by Guy Gavriel Kay. The same goes for the history, just look at a country like Poland or Hungary or Russia and how many great ideas for books you could take from their pasts. Romania and the whole borderlands between Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Poland have so much to dig into.

>Another worrying issue is that of aspiring authors from Eastern European countries. Talking from personal experience, hearing that "eurocentric fantasy" is stale or boring or "mediocre" can create an anxiety issue. Some writers might think that readers will be completely disinterested in reading a fantasy set, for example, during the Swedish Deluge on Eastern Central Europe in the mid-17th century or a story set in 16th century Croatia. Maybe an urban fantasy set in Yugoslavia during the communist era? This anxiety or simply lack of motivation could be because of lumping together Western and Eastern European cultures into one pile.

>On an end note, I'd like to call out to those writers and readers interested in non-Western European fantasy. You need not look across the oceans for something different or foreign. Just beyond the Danube and Oder rivers.

>What are your opinions on this? Do you think it would be interesting to read more fantasy set in Eastern Europe?

>>11557358
The left wing agenda has been about the displacement and oppression of whites for 100yearsso far.... nothing new about that

Caesar was black

>>11557486
>lumping all of Western Europe into the same cultural bracket
Fucking yanks

>>11557631
Americans assume skin colour equals race which isn't true.

I really like atmosphere-heavy media like: Dune 1&2, Bladerunner, 2001(the movie) and the works of Tetsumo Nihei.
Still new to SF&F books in general and want to get a bit deeper in. Should I read The Commonwealth Saga, Blindsight, Lord of Light, Titus Groan or Hyperion next?

>>11557703
>Tetsumo Nihei
literally only Blame! is though
Everything else is explosions and tits and that's a good thing

>>11557703
Lord of Light has plenty of style and is a great story. Titus Groan is slow and baroque. Hyperion has good interrelated stories but its atmosphere doesn't compare.

>>11557616
It's a chinese military strategy to weaken the west prior to their movement into an aggressive military stance.

They fully intend to colonize america/canada/australia and plan to use bioweapons to kill off every white.

What science fiction/fantasy book/series has the best prose?

>>11558495
The Book of the New Sun, if you want to believe in /lit/ memes

>>11558505
Only a lunatic would trust /lit/.

>>11557402
kek. im not a right wing extremist but this is funny

would you say science fiction and fantasy books are kinda like the fast food of literature?

>>11554553
He always has a few weird, non-human perspectives in his books. I really liked the stuff with the Kandra and their society.

>>11556196
Sanderson has some kind of psychological compulsion to write doorstopper fantasy series. His idea of taking a break from writing is to write something else.

What's the deal here? Do you guys hate Sanderson, or like him?

>>11558728
what on this board has made you think we like him in any way?

>>11558495
You're not going to find a lot of high quality prose in SFF, it's not why people read it and most authors in the genres shoot for "plain and serviceable" in their writing. There's a few authors who try to go beyond that and raise the bar, but their success is debatable at best. You're better off sticking to literary fiction and avoiding genre fiction in general if you want high quality prose.

>>11558733
Speak for yourself, I enjoy quite a lot of Sanderson's work.

>>11558728
Gee it's almost like this thread is not one person and there are lots of different competing opinions about nearly everything.

>>11558728
I've never read one of his books.

>>11558728
what on this board has made you think we hate him in any way?

It’s crazy how literally *everyone* writing short genre fiction these days is some sort of feeble minded weirdo or sexual degenerate

>Rereading Path of Daggers
>Perrin meets Morgase
Ah, I'd forgotten how like her daughter she was. Trakands are such a terrible family. Hopefully Tallanvor wasn't able to knock Morgase up after the Last Battle.

>>11558755
Clearly it gives them an edge.

>>11558763
Trakands are a good case for ending monarchy as a tradition. Elayne is so fucking stupid my god.

>>11547251
why is the austrian flag in the middle of some dude in a suit and a frisbee?

>>11558763
>>11558773
Trakands are what happens when you don't allow men to rule.

>>11558728
He has positives and negatives, e.g. his dialogue and certain female characters feeling repetitive, but overall I like him. Wax and Wayne is probably my favourites of his longer works so far.

>>11558773
>REEEEEEEEE! How dare Rand just "give" me the throne?!
>REEEEEEEEE! How dare the Dragon Reborn want to "put" my daughter on the throne after I pissed off all my allies?!
I wonder who she inherited the retard gene from?

>>11558794
Harriet McDougal

Sanderson is autistic

>>11558815
>fantasy author
>autistic

>>11558778
why does it seem like everyone outside the fantasy genre kinda looks down on him and his books?

>>11558776
Plenty of dumb arrogant men who act just like them. They are just some of the most obnoxiously proud and vain royals. If you want an example of what uniquely female incompetence with power looks like, look at the White Tower. Their monumental fuck ups are solely due to feminine qualities of avoiding open confrontation, constant scheming, and unwillingness to take responsibility.

>>11558844
Probably the same reason that GRRM is sucked off.

>>11558844
People outside the fantasy genre look down on fantasy authors as a general rule. People like GRRM are the exception.

Daniel Black's Author is a lazy piece of shit.
He promised that he would release stuff to his blog starting the 1st august. now he is reneging and saying to expect it in a few months.

>>11558846
But the dumb arrogant kings (Laman and the king of Arad Doman for example) were supposed to be that way, he wanted an anti-tolkien matriarchy world, his Queens are just retarded by accident, they were supposed to be strong and powerful, and constantly have their laurels praised.

>>11558871
>Laman
>Dumb and arrogant
Laman is (one of) the unsung hero(es) of Randland.

what audiobook should i listen to while leveling a void elf?
i'm considering BOTNS but i feel like it's something that is in need of more attention

>>11558880
Kingkiller.

>>11558886
Book 3 never so fuck that

>>11558852
>>11558861
How would one go about making a fantasy book that's respected by those outside the fantasy genre?

>reading Characters: Show up

Who asked for this?

>>11558918
Be Tolkien

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