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What should I read to help mentally prepare myself for suicide?

>> No.11495920

Schopenhauer

>> No.11495925

>>11495916
If you’re not prepared to commit suicide then why plan for it? Suicidal thoughts are wonderful in that they penetrate everything you do and only grow more intense. So just give it a few more years until you find yourself fantasizing about your death compulsively and constantly.

>> No.11495928

>>11495925
I already do. I merely find myself at odds with my trigger finger.

>> No.11495929

why would you need to prepare for something you're not going to come out alive from

>> No.11495957
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>>11495916
I couldn't do it either even though I have nothing in my life except not being homeless. I believe it would make me do it if I was with no place or anything. Otherwise I can't do it. What I did was to create personification of death and created philosophy around it by bastardizing and sodomizing every philosophy, occultic and psychology school of thought and mixing it together. I created an image of death and surrounded myself by things that associate it and speaks to me in that image, what I mean is unconscious manipulation. I took ideas from stoicism and have routine of mind rituals to rehearsing it. I created jungian idea of persona and placed it on my basic personality and tried to destroy all the other views of myself, I used some narrative psychology to create a story and mythos so again increasing the power of that idea in unconscious and used some occultis practices to make it stronger. Even buddhist thoughts are useful a bit for deconstruction of yourself. Some ideas from existentialism, nihilism and absurdism helped a bit too with stoic thought. I cant express it as it takes too long. What is the most hard for me is anxiety which I cant successfully control because I believe it is my sensitive physiology and temperament with being self conscious too much with other mental problems. Although I can minimize it a bit with this.

What I am trying to say is I failed in suicide, I can only do so much to numb my life by ideas. Preparation for suicide is not hard, but actively doing it is harder in that moment.

>> No.11495968

read the Stoics
You probably shouldn't off yourself though.

>> No.11495974
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>>11495916
You need a good loyal waifu.

>> No.11495978
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>>11495916
The people who love you will be devastated by your suicide. If you have no other reason to live, at least live so that they may not suffer. Everything is going to be alright in the end.

>> No.11495980

>>11495974
what happens if you want to be your waifu

>> No.11495994

>>11495978
What if you are completely alone like no family, friends and such?

>> No.11495997

>>11495980
Your waifu is an idea that exists in your head so in order to be with your waifu you must be alive as long as possible and then when dying hope that there is a possibility of being with her in different place or form.

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>>11495994
You are never completely alone. God loves you and is always by your side. Endure, all things pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjF9IqvXDjY

>> No.11496022

>>11496013
I don't believe in metaphysical entities.

>> No.11496030
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11496030

my diary desu

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>>11496030

>> No.11496056
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>>11495916
https://mangadex.org/chapter/349462

>> No.11496058

>>11496022
Have you at least tried believing?

>> No.11496076

>>11496058
Is there anything worse than a 4chan nu-theist's suggestion to contrive belief? Makes plain the pathetic false consolatory nature of their so-called faith...

>> No.11496085

>>11496058
Have you tried being a buddhist?

>> No.11496095

>>11496076
I don't know how to help you anon.

>> No.11496097

>>11496095
I'm not the anon you were trying to ""help"" demon...

>> No.11496099

>>11496058
t. soiboi cuck

>> No.11496100

>>11496085
Yes. I was a member of a Sōtō Zen dojo for a while. I eventually came to realise that there is nothing there.

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>>11496097
Few are born believing, and those that do are usually far too credulous. For most people religion is just a social club into which they drift out of familial innertia, and professions of faith a sort of membership card. Conversion is a wilful act. What is so demonic about inviting someone to try and find succour?

>> No.11496139

>>11496135
Foul teachings infidel. Soon your kind will be gone anyway. Allah made a promise and everyone will know the truth in the end.

>> No.11496148

get redpilled about the eternal recurrence
then just amor fati man ;)

>> No.11496149

>>11495968
At least five of the major Stoics we have preserved have committed suicide (Zeno, Cleanthes, Cato, Seneca, and Aurelius), although Seneca can't really be called a suicide.

That being said, the Stoics (and to some extent, the Cynics) are probably the most canonical Western form of thought that is most open to suicide, in fact, I would venture so far as they would encourage it in a number of cases.

Read Aurelius, and then Epictetus, OP.

Otherwise, >>11495920 isn't a bad suggestion.

>> No.11496162

>>11496135
I chose to be baptized in an icy river during winter. I've been to the church a lot, I don't go every sunday, but every now and then. I also do pray for my close ones and myself, nothing material just protection. Yet, I don't feel the call of the church at all, I feel the call of God, but not the flock. I'd rather walk alone and help people if I see someone in need, but "seeking nourishment" from the church is something I have never seen as a necessity for me. Is church necessary for a man who walks with God?

>> No.11496165

>>11496162
Retard.

>> No.11496182

>>11495916
How to win friends and influence people.

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>>11495916
Do you speak spanish or galician?

>> No.11496193

>>11496162
Being the member of a congregation is not a requirement for a Christian; although it is helpful. Some human contact might help OP all by itself, even if he doesn't believe.

>> No.11496201

>>11495916
Depends on what is causing you to want to suicide. Is it social isolation? Low self esteem? Cognitive dissonance? Terminal disease? Pain? Ennui?

>> No.11496204

>>11495916
If you plan to do it it means you are already prepared mentally for it. The only thing left to prepare is the noose or whatever else.
I want books on how to get a shutgun in a country where buying weapons is illegal and where getting your hands on one is one of the hardest things to achieve.

>> No.11496416
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>>11495916
Mainlander, there's a google translation of the philosophy of redemption

>> No.11496430

>>11495916
why does an ellipsoid elicit such feelings of eroticism in my qualia

god BLESS big BREPSTS

any books for understanding the relationship between the shape and man

>> No.11496446

Mainländer

>> No.11496451

Why don't you mentally prepare to fuck off, fruitcake

>> No.11496457
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>>11496201
History and continuation of abuse and isolation, cognitive dissonance, ennui, and abnormal sexuality.
>>11496186
No
>>11495978
I am aware of this but it usually does not bother me. If I'm gone I won't cause them any further harm.

>> No.11496686

>>11496149
>Aurelius
>suicide
???

>> No.11496745

>>11496430
>in my qualia

kys

>> No.11496750
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11496750

>>11495916
You need misaki.

>> No.11496779

>>11496451
based and redpilled

>> No.11496782

I wish all weebs and anime degenerates would fucking off themselves.

farewell fuckhead, do it at a convention and take your compatriots with you!

>> No.11496786

>>11495957
You could be turning this autism into profitable YA fiction.

>> No.11496801

>>11495916
Anon have you tried medication

I find that suicidal thoughts are actually your body's way of telling you to Sleep

If you can dispel the weariness the world is a lot different <3

Or maybe even try psychedelic therapy, psychedelics have given me the most profound experiences of my whole life and I hear they can be used to treat depression

You can change anon

>> No.11496845

>>11496786
All psychodynamic and narrative psychotherapists are autists by your definition then. But I'm more than certain you don't even know what autism is and how it looks irl.

>> No.11496895
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>>11495916
Honestly assess what is killing you and work to change it, it's so easy to just to always hide from your problems until you almost can't recognize them as such

Your thoughts are relentlessly a projection of your feelings, your mind will automatically justify in thought whatever you emotionally and bodily feel

Quite often despairing thoughts are actually just an instinctive way to kill the pain of wanting something, if life is nothing then you don't have to care

Try to live it's maybe all you got, it's the context in which good and bad exist so cannot be inherently bad

Love to you anon good luck

>> No.11496909

>>11496782
Christ, fuck off edgelord

>> No.11496910

>>11495916

My goomah works in LA and was a set designer for the sopranos so i know the show pretty well.

There’s a scene where, after his paychiatrist decides she can’t see him anymore, tony takes advantage of a favor he does for the wealthy shylock to pressure him into listening to him or taking his therapists role. It’s hilarious because the jew is as narcissistic as everyone else so they talk over each other.

Basically, everyone is a narcissistic fag and if they shut their mouths more often and listened people wouldnt need therapy.

Fuck your post.

>> No.11496915

>>11496909
kill yourself weeb

>> No.11496927
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>>11496915
B-but anon, daisuki!

>> No.11497009

>>11495916
You're prolly really lonely

A few friends can make the difference between wanting to die and feeling okay about life

Maybe you avoid people because you're avoiding yourself, afraid of facing yourself -- Just try to work through that and find people

If you have bad social anxiety, SSRIs and other meds can help a ton (Lexapro, Zoloft), and you see it's mostly a physiological glitch that's causing you to feel that way, not "reality"... You can book an appointment with a psychiatrist and get a prescription the first meeting

And yes it helps to talk to a professional, you can even talk to therapists online if you don't want to do it in person

I've been there anons, trust me, things can change

>> No.11497037

>>>/r9k/
if you know this then kys already. why bother posting your depressing shit on /lit/?

>> No.11497089

>>11496100
ayyy

>> No.11497169

>>11497009
> SSRIs and other meds can help a ton
Not true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299662/

>> No.11497174

>>11497169
Good thread up on >>>/sci/9861757 right now.

>> No.11497363

>>11497169
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/21/the-drugs-do-work-antidepressants-are-effective-study-shows

Worked for me, can confirm they are psychoactive

>> No.11497395

Pussy, I was a junkie, spend time in prison, and wasted my life away jacking off and playing vidya.
I have three different physical illnessed that made me half-deaf, require daily strong medicine to keep me from dying, and a gut illness that hurts so badly sometimes I can't walk.

I have a girlfriend who I'll soon marry and I worked my fucking ass off to get back into college.
You're one hell of a pussy if you feel a bit of a mental booboo and give up already when I nearly died from an OD, survived being stabbedz and survived daily beatings by an abusive stepfather because both my parents gave me away.

If I can survive all those things and still kick it and be happy and content with life, how can your little undergrad ass not fix yourself and become someone, grow a fucking spine kid.

>> No.11497409

>>11497395
>>11497009
>>11496801
please kill yoursel OP before you end up like these losers, deluding yourself into thinking you've changed for the better but continuing your degenerate ways negatively impacting everyone around you

you're all a drain on society

>> No.11497427

>>11497395
The fact that you even constructed this image of me without knowing anything about me is pretty pathetic desu.

>> No.11497708

>>11495929

Underrated.

>> No.11497757

>>11497395

Pain is simply a sensation. It comes and goes. Realization is permanent.

>> No.11497839

>>11497009
>A few friends can make the difference between wanting to die and feeling okay about life

I'm Epistemologically suicidal. Shitty social arguments only make me vulgarly suicidal as well.

>> No.11497995

>>11497363
>anon links a metastudy of all the scientific literature on the subject
>lolno, worked for me bro (even though it might have been pure placebo or just a natural relapse), have this theguardian dot com pop-sci article
No one should be this stupid.

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11498007

Anyone without memeing actually got over their depression? I'm sick of feel like shit all the time.

>> No.11498093

>>11498007

Reason alone can deliver you.

>> No.11498120

>>11498007
I've been getting better, but I've been having lots of suicidal thoughts the past few weeks. My advice would be start going to therapy if you don't already. Don't listen to the anti-semitic conspiracy theorists who say otherwise. I wouldn't recommend taking SSRIs, but if that's what you want, go ahead. That is all I can really say.

>> No.11498127

The Bible

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>>11495916

>> No.11498184

>>11498093


no, for some people depression is not something they can get over with reason alone. they just have to get used to feeling like shit all the time which is hard

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11498190

>all these pedditors recommending zogpills

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>>11498190
> "muh zog"
go back to your containment board pls

>> No.11498274

>>11498246
>he doesn't know about postironic usage of zog

>> No.11498507

>>11498007
you ever try the things in that picture?

>> No.11498520

>>11495916
the sorrows of young werther

>> No.11498621

>>11497395
Worthless post

>> No.11498852

>>11495916
suicide is gay lol

>> No.11498860

>>11498007
I literally do none of these things and i'm happy

>> No.11498873
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11498873

You need Niet-chan, so you'll realize that the only purpose of existence is to trample over the pathetic lazy faggots who are too dumb and lazy to do anything and simply overshadow them with the fruits of your willpower's labour.
Fuck suicide, I'm in it for the hella 'chievments and successes and you should be too.
Or if you do kill yourself, then great, one less person who I'll be competing against.

>> No.11499377

Try dmt if you haven't, a number of people I know and have talked to online including myself experienced 'death' the first time they smoked it.

>> No.11499392

>>11495925
>If you’re not prepared to commit suicide then why plan for it? Suicidal thoughts are wonderful in that they penetrate everything you do and only grow more intense. So just give it a few more years until you find yourself fantasizing about your death compulsively and constantly.

This. I keep daydreaming about hanging myself by a long chain and my head snaps off and rolls around the room. It took me years to reach this point.

>> No.11499459

>>11496022
It's not above blind faith for most, it's about understandinv the ehtical and moral teaching of the Bible, the metaphysic and philosophy of the Buddha and so on.
It's never simple; finding truth, but it's harder when you chose not to look by forsaking your life to the perils of the void

>> No.11499829

>>11497995
Article's about study very like what you described

>> No.11499843

How do I break the habit of suicidal thoughts? They just keep getting more frequent and intense.

>> No.11499844

>>11495916
Observe your suicidal thoughts, it's very likely you'll see they spring from a bodily desire to sleep, give up consciousness, etc, fix that problem

Horses self-harm when they're isolated, it's the same creaturely instinct

>> No.11499860

>>11496058
gayest advice I've ever heard

>> No.11500591

getting things done

>> No.11500592

>>11495916
You always kill yourself too late.

>> No.11500657

>>11495916
Seeking help? Life is short and death is eternal

>> No.11500678

>>11498007
>fulfilling career

>> No.11500872

>>11497009
The schizo terms are elaborating too much. I can't see the floor but i can see that painting if wher eyou're goin is too far wher ecan you go if nowhere is ot be found?

>> No.11500901

>>11498007
>fulfilling career
>active romantic and social life
Both of these are memes.

>> No.11501024

>>11500901
How is a good social life a meme?

>> No.11501037

>>11501024
People are shit. Whoever made that image is a normalfag who thinks being alone causes depression. Maybe if you were like some dog that needs constant attention.
There have been periods in my life were I was alone for months at a time besides being around cashier wagies and I was either fine, or depressed for completely different reasons.

>> No.11501209

>>11495916
read crime and punishment and realize suicide isnt the way

>> No.11501219

>>11498007
A woman can make life worth it

>> No.11501222

>>11501037
RESSENTIMENT AT 300, LIKE THE ROMANS