/lit/ - Literature

Summer

This is the Zodiac speaking desu

>>11451307
http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/adornocc.html

>>11451307
we be lookin for a new shaman

because the best discussion always happen in the threads on metaphysics and the occult

>>11451307
Brainlets who can't into real philosophy.

>>11451307
Anti Semitism and occultism go hand in hand
It’s all /pol/‘s doing.

>>11451307
I think it's because /x/'ers are tired of the vampires, aliens, masturbating sigil magic, and pretentios tripfag circlejerks and actually want to have a discussion on esoteric lit.

>>11451307
I wish /x/ would have less roleplaying faggots, it drowns out discussions of /x/ related topics and actual spooky occurrences.

Sounds fun. I dont even post in those threads.

>>11451355
mi too

>>11451307
Because Gaia is preparing her next and final quantum jump

it only takes a couple of dedicated posters to swing /lit/ towards their whim

So you want to talk about stupid fiction or what?
Occultism and philosophy are the only valuable literature.

>>11451307
Very few of them are close to /x/-tier in terms of quality.

>he doesn't know
>he didn't get the consciousness update
I'm sorry for you, OP

>>11451307
>Is it a natural follow-up to the traditionalism vogue?
I'm about to read all up into Gnosticism because a Christfag said it was heresy.

>>11451307
/lit/ used to be chock full of gnostics who crossposted on /x/, probably because of Bloom, and the remaining materialists argued between Marx and Ayn Rand. The Marxists started idolizing Zizek, and Randfags lost faith in capitalism, becoming the first people to discuss Stirner since Ernst Junger. The Gnostics, meanwhile, were replaced by competing Catholics and Evola posters who started off just spamming fedora memes but gradually fell down the mysticism rabbit hole.

>>11451307
>last week
You have to go back.

>>11451307
because of /pol/ and signaling from christtards which triggers STEMniggers which in turn causes effete literati to countersignal which encourages mysticism that devolves into occultist navel gazing and the blind leading the blind. but, it should be blamed on /pol/ like problems with this site that cannot be traced back to gookmoot

>>11451852
nice

>>11451831
Unironically this. People ended up on mysticism from both sides of the aisle.

>>11451334
soullets who can't into real mysticism?

>>11451355
This.
/x/ is a failed board run by chicks and no iqs, we have to come here for serious discussion. /x/ is what happens when you are nice to grills and don't demand tits

>>11451307
Creepy shit like this has been a thing for quite some time, but it does manifest in a certain season of the year the most

>>11453136
Guenon-posting suddenly became a regular thing 1.5-2 years ago, before that nobody ever talked about him

>t. /lit/fag since 2011

>>11451328
WOW THANKS FOR THIS

>>11451831
Evola is great though, I don't know how else to say it. Why the fuck do people not read him?

>>11454314
He is good but for all the stuff he does well other people do better. Guenon does eastern metaphysics better than him, Schmitt and De Maistre among others do better reactionary/far-right political writing better than him. The 18th-century Germans do better idealism than him. Nietzsche does a better Nietzsche than him. etc. He is good and definitely worth reading but he is far from GOAT.

>>11454339
*19-century Germans

>>11454339
I disagree re "they do better", I think you're being silly

>>11451334
Philosophy doesn't require intelligence all that much. It does curiosity in the field. I assume it's the same in mysticism. Of course, plowing way into the unknown is easier if you are smart, courageous or strong.

/lit/ is a catholic board

>>11451334
what is a "real" philosophy

>>11454506
only in your dreams kid

>>11454506
Praise white Jesus!

>>11454521
One that isn't primarily concerned with personal temporal gratification or slenderman or UFOs or crystals.

>>11454521

>>11454929
Is Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus real philosophy?

>>11451307
You're witnessing the revival of a deep spiritual strain in mankind that the world hasn't seen in hundreds of years. You should be happy that the dogmas of the Fourth Estate are finally being rejected and that mankind is attempting once again the Herculean feat of spiritual resurrection in a world as numb as this one. The tide is slowly turning in our favor once again.

That said, I'm not too sure occultism is a positive way to direct our energies. Only time will tell.

I read a really interesting hypothesis that the occult is to the social sciences what alchemy was to chemistry.

I feel like this might be the most charitable interpretation of interest in the occult.

>>11456605
Trump is a sort of surrogate shaman at the moment until folks find their feet. ‘He or she that can tell the best stories will come to be’ .

>>11456636
link?

>>11454521
what about The Golem by Meyrink?

>>11456972
don't remember sorry

>>11454506
If you think about it, Catholicism is a cross-board topic. You have /lit/ for literature, philosophy, and theology. You have /his/ for more all-encompassing religious discussion and apologetics. You have /pol/ for discussion of what's actually happening at the Vatican, and among actual Catholics worldwide. And you have /x/ for the 'spooky' side of Catholicism, the healings, miracles, and apparitions, which are more prevalent in it than in any other branch of Christianity. There's even a few anime that are Catholic-relevant, like Hellsing, so that's /a/ covered.

Catholicism truly is 4chan's ideal branch of Christianity.

>>11456988
checked

It's just a bunch of atheists trying to fill the void

>religious people are just a bunch of atheists trying to fill the void

>>11454314
>Evola is great though
>I don't know how else to say it
so this is the power of the evolaposter

>>11451307
I'm not sure if you've realized this but /lit/ has been unironically retarded for about three years now.

>>11451307
before JPB and traditionalism there was christposting, that it should shift to the occult is natural
at the end there will only be one meme and his own standing, though

jungian archetypes, literature and the occult have a lot in common

>>11457186
We still have plenty of Christposting, it just now has competition that it didn't before.

Also reminder that Peterson is a disgusting heretic and should be burnt at the stake.

>>11457250
try me

>>11457253
>claims to be "Christian"
>doesn't believe that God literally exists
>denies the Resurrection

>>11457255
He believes all kinds of stuff he won't say. Though Christians should not deny or even avoid this question.

>>11457255

>>11457298
>implying posting a Jew is going to do anything to dissuade me

>>11457308

>>11456605
>That said, I'm not too sure occultism is a positive way to direct our energies.

there's really no other way to go, the progress of science has made it more and more impossible to seriously subscribe to more organized, well-defined religions and spiritualities, because the more well-defined something is, the more open it is to the teeth and claws of skepticism. definite claims can be definitely challenged. occultism and mysticism are harder for those claws to rip into because they're less well-defined, make much softer claims and can often hide behind a rationalization; "i don't literally believe in the tarot, i just see it as a _______." this makes it the best refuge against the ever-stronger beast of rationality for those who wish to see magic in the world.

>>11451339
>what is kabalah

>>11454943
what in the actual fuck

>>11456988
interesting thesis t b h

>>11457564

JAMIE PULL UP THAT PIC OF THE INTELLECTUAL DARK WEB

>>11457529
go back to /x/

>>11456988

>>11454943
this pic really goes to vindicate Guenon's claim that an over-development of rationalism (le stove man) goes hand in hand with sentimental hogwash (le lobster man). Secretly these trends have always been closely allied.

>>11457713
expand on this? What's the context of this claim and/or what book does he talk about this? I'm intrigued

>>11454943
who's the guy with the fro in the back

>>11457724
Their lewminardi handler.
>Eric Ross Weinstein (born October 1965) is an American economist, writer, and managing director of Thiel Capital, Peter Thiel's investment firm.

>>11457718
Not that guy but as someone who's read him I know he talks about it at length in the first half of East and West.

>>11457745
Can you give me a summary of his reasoning? Or at least some details? Just wondering the logical path in the confluence of the streams of hyperrationalism and hyperempathy

>>11457790
>>11457745
>>11457718
fresh meme

>>11457790
>hyperempathy
its not a matter of hyperempathy necessarily, that would only be one type of sentimentalism.

>>11457872
So the connection between sentimentalism and rationally would be that "rationality" as a sort of idolatry is overly sentimental in itself and doesn't sufficiently take into account the limitations of reason? But the "sentimental (hyper)rationalist" would just respond that you can only intimate that selfsame "sentiment" by using the above reasoning.

>>11457844
based

>>11457790
Guenon is sometimes very meandering and dense in his writings, especially when not talking specifically about eastern doctrines. I still love him though and I gladly accept wading through his run-on sentences as an acceptable cost of reading his books. Pic related are some pages of East and West where he mentions it, although you really have to read the whole book to get a good sense of it. The two pages in the top row occur after one another early in the book and then all the ones in the bottom row occur one after another about midway through the book.

>>11457996
thanks for the effort anon! You are the good kind of /lit/anon

>>11457996
>>11457844
based effortposters

>>11457529
So for you occultism is a nice shroud under which we can hold the same beliefs while simultaneously protecting ourselves from the onslaught of scientific inquiry? You might be right; however, I think one could also blend a religious view with some sort of mysticism and still thus create that shroud. Anyhow, recommend me your favorite occultist literature (I'll accept recommendations from anyone).

>>11457253
What an edgelord, LMAO.

>>11458065

i'm just reading crowley right now, which i'm not sure counts

>>11457253
>while you were studying bloody postmodern Neo-Marxism, I was studying the blade

>>11458140
kek

>>11457554
self hating jews? i dunno desu

>>11456605
What a time to be alive