/lit/ - Literature

That's why you have to start with them

>>11456215
post greek boomer memes then lad

>>11456215
>the internet existed in ancient greece
interesting

>>11456378
They simply did not want to create it because of its negative effects.

What did Empedokles mean by this?

>>11456512
All the creatures which were not able to survive on Earth died off, whilst the ones who were given the right attributes survived.

>>11456215
Further proof that philosophy is bullshit. It goes nowhere, just endless circles and circles.

STEM-based fields are the only fields with real* progress. I've known some math people to think of philosophy as logic, but without actual definitions of what they mean.

*reality is tough shit, and to say that science is real is also a stretch

>>11456512
>having all possible creature present in the beginning.

So, he was wrong. Don't tell me that Democritus deserves credit for the atom, either. Saying you have tiny little particles of stuff isn't very revolutionary, let alone the fact that they aren't indestructible anyway.

Although, it is fun to think that you could just use some general concepts and the right language and spout off about things they won't discover centuries from know, and be somewhat accurate. Of course, having an idea doesn't prove that it's true.

>>11456580
>So, he was wrong

But what if he was right?

>>11456554
mate, things like metaphysics that are unanswerable do go in circles, the rest of it?
it's not that it goes in circles, but it simply opens up more questions
I get that it's maddening, but it's worth pursuing insofar as it is relevant to your life

>>11456554
Philosophy isn't bullshit if it results in science, numbnuts.

>>11456580
>Don't tell me that Democritus deserves credit for the atom, either. Saying you have tiny little particles of stuff isn't very revolutionary, let alone the fact that they aren't indestructible anyway.

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>>11456890
you are a giga pseud though anon; i don’t doubt that your interlocutor is a brainlet either

>>11456894
nope

>>11456512
Stick to the primary sources. Creatures he imagined were monsters, nothing that could exist in real world.

>>11456512
Couldn't one interpret that very need for survival, or necessity as "divine guidance'?

>>11456215
heraclitus' fragments contain literally all of philosophy in them
you could say that the field of philosophy is the mission to create the most effective uncompression algorithm for heraclitus

>>11457565
Any modern authors take on the fragments? I just found out about this guy and so far im hooked

>>11456580
Someone had to come up with the most basic idea of an atom for it develop into what we know today.

>>11456580
it was revolutionary when he said it faggot

Except the Greeks stole everything they had from the Indians, except the Indians did it better

>>11456378
this but somewhat different. They thought of pretty much everything possible from their vantage point in history. Some thoughts are only possible after certain historical/technological preconditions have been met. Every time tech changes even slightly and consequently nudges society and history, the possibility exists of new lines of thought coming into being

>>11457565
I think you mean Parmenides, anon.

>>11458455
Heraclitus and Parmenides together contain all philosophy ever

>>11458433
could you give me an example of such plagiarization

>>11456378
The internet at its fundamental is easier to conceptualize than stairs

>>11456215
Really? No shit.
Yes, the Greeks thought of everything-- now read the extensive extrapolation of their ideas branching forthwith into territory they could've never even dreamed of.

What's he doing?

>>11458433
anyone else sick of these arrogant eastaboos who keep making dumb blanket statements like this in every philosophy thread?

>>11456512
Can you imagine being there? In this world with every possible creature, surrounded by all these crazy monstrosities walking around like shit H.R. Geiger would've come up with, waiting for them to die off so you can keep surviving.

>>11458433
Vedic civilization was founded by indo-european Aryans.

>>11456512
woah

>>11456580
Imagine being a meliorist who fails to grasp century old physics