/lit/ - Literature

>>11445100
He also calls antisemites blockheads iirc

>>11445116
One of his last "sane" writings was his desire to shoot all antisemites.

>>11445100
>purest
i assume he didnt mean genetically?
>toughest
they certainly are resilient
>strongest
they without doubt have a great dedication to their self deception, its an ideological strength of sorts but i wouldnt call them intellectually or spiritually strong

Was he being genuine or just self serving for the sake of acceptability?

>>11445142
"Psychologically considered, the Jewish people are a people endowed with the toughest vital energy, who, placed in impossible circumstances, voluntarily and out of the most profound prudence of self-preservation, take sides with all the instincts of décadence -- not as mastered by them, but because they divined a power in these instincts with which one could prevail against "the world. " The Jews are the antithesis of all décadents: they have had to represent decadents to the point of illusion; with a non plus ultra of histrionic genius they have known how to place themselves at the head of all movements of décadence ( -- as the Christianity of Paul -- ) in order to create something out of them which is stronger than any Yes-saying party of life."

>>11445142
Antisemitism was more acceptable than calling them the master race.

>>11445142
Being resentful towards jews (or anyone) for their strenghts is slave morality.

>>11445164
Nietzsche doesn't preach sucking up to whoever is in power, otherwise he would be lauding slave morality since it is obviously the ruling morality. Go back to watching Peterson.

>>11445185
>...the Jews achieved that miracle of inversion of values thanks to which life on earth has for a couple millennia acquired a new and dangerous fascination - their prophets fused "rich", "godless", "evil", "violent", "sensual" into one, and were the first to coin the word "world" as a term of infamy. It is this inversion of values (with which is involved the employment of the word for "poor" as a synonym for "holy" and "friend") that the significance of the Jewish people resides: With them, there begins the slave revolt in morals.
Reminder that slave morality is inherently Jewish.

>>11445100
He saw how the degeneracy of the Greeks gave birth to decadent ideologies (Plato and the Stoics) which allowed Semitic ideologies to muscle their way in and throw the non-Semitic races into mass confusion. As a result, Europe became Christian, which was a fundamentally impure abomination of different cultural ideas. Only the Jews remained in the outcome with a solid sense of identity.

>>11445277
Firstly, it was invented by Zarathustra.
Item, slave morality is not wholly bad, and master morality not wholly good.
Item, I'm quite certain he's talking about St. Paul.

>>11445100
Reminds me of E. Michael Jones's The Revolutionary Jewish Spirit

>>11445127
>>11445142
>>11445277
>>11445575
another powerful showing of the chaotic logical matrix that is necessary to cling to myth of a multi-millenia jewish plot -- try and appropriate the self titled 'anti-antisemite'

>>11445123
That was one of his insane letters. He also wanted all of europe to declare war on germany

>>11445630
he hated Germany his whole life, that's why he gave up his citizenship. N was very clear on his position that the Jews were far more noble than the Germans

Sad to see all these SJW cucks in this thread. /pol/ is slave morality? Fuck, I hate you race traitors. The Jews are a pest. Take the fucking redpill already, your Marxist professors aren't here to suck up too

>>11445645
>SJW cucks[...] Fuck, I hate you race traitors. The Jews are a pest.[...] your Marxist professors aren't here to suck up too
slave morality begins with resentment, young one. resentment like the kind that makes up 80% of your post. /pol/ is literally a case study in the making on slave morality

>>11445645
A vast, vast, vast majority of the world is inhabited by non-Jews. Do something about it if its such a problem. Move away from Jew-dominant countries like the U.S., U.K., Canada, and Australia....oh wait, you don't want to live in Pakistan?

>>11445629
He didn't love Jews, he admired their good traits. From Zarathustra on, his work became focused on overcoming the limitations of both the Greek and Semitic peoples and reformulating the synergy established between the two in order to create a new philosophy for the future. That's what gave birth to his will to power.

neetze was your typical self-loathing goon, who designs narratives about his own people being so debased while imaging other, often demonstrably inferior, races and cultures to be oh so much more noble and better

you find europeans and us-mutts doing the same thing today with east asia, most amusingly thailand where the afflicted pretend what they treat as a hedonistic and exploitative playground is somehow spiritually and culturally superior.

>>11445675
>He didn't love Jews, he admired their good traits.
how to split hairs, the post.

>>11445658
>you have ants in your house? lmao just move
utter cuckoldry

>>11445636
>far more noble
He never said that. He only said that they were of better stock- but also apt to propagate slave morals.

His position was that the Jews should be permitted to intermarry and assimilate themselves to their respective communities

>>11445687
What are you on about? Those are two completely different attitudes.

>>11445809
he was literally responding to a file name
>>11445806
see >>11445629

>>11445687
I would say he did respect and admire the Jews, and saw them as largely responsible for many of best, as well as the most dangerous, features of western culture.

The mistake comes in when you're dealing with leftists who try to turn it into "based Nietzsche fighting racism!" and, of course, guys like Kaufman who see the philosemitic remarks and reinterpret Nietzsche as a pseudoprogressive personal hero

>>11445818
>he was literally responding to a file name
He as in me, you mean? The filename only summarizes that post I responded to. Even if you're joking with it, it's wrong. What Nietzsche loved was the Overman, not any racial or ethnic group.

>>11445844
here i'll fix it for you

>>11445127
>>11445142
>>11445277
>>11445575
another powerful showing of the chaotic logical matrix that is necessary to cling to myth of a multi-millenia jewish plot -- try and appropriate the self titled 'anti-antisemite'

>>11445844
>The filename only summarizes that post I responded to
the absolute state of /lit/

>>11445645
You're brainwashed my dude

>>11445870
>getting this uptight over being corrected
Get the fuck away from philosophy, please.

>>11445906
you literally made a post critiquing a file name lmao I'm just making fun of you at this point

>>11445917
So you were merely pretending, in other words?

>>11445629
they are one of the most dishonest intellectual groups that has ever existed. they criticise and tear down gentile values in the pretense of "guiding rational thinking" but it really only achieves a purely material and detrimental reduction of their hosts cultural traits that are often an important part of their traditional spirituality. they fail to apply this rational thought to their own values, being more close minded and zealously adherent to them (which is a boon) than the gentiles they dislike so much. they have an inability to question the morality inherent in their faith and will consistently refuse to even consider the validity of other ways of alternate attitudes ethics i can see why someone one would write that image though, its easy to see it that way.

>>11445699
I mean.. it is difficult to ask the infestation to leave. Otherwise, you'd have gone back to /pol/ by now.

>>11445924
I think that's enough posting for today, anon

>>11445933
if the jews as a race can operate as a hivemind why do white people hate skinheads? are we less evolved or something? I want hivemind powers

>>11445943
>why do white people hate skinheads?
Because the Jews try to turn us against each other. They are certainly more manipulative and subservice than us whites of honesty

>>11445937
more accurately you would’ve returned to plebbit

>>11445938
How about you go fuck yourself dude, you're the one who said it was "splitting hairs" when it wasn't at all.

>>11445943
>>11445946
LOL. 2 jews, 3 opinions. We argue and disagree about every minute thing amongst one another.

The idea that Jews think collectively as a hivemind has got to the most ridiculous intellectually dishonest thing.

Atleast be consistent

>>11445943
almost all on the right and about half of the left suggest that the west becomes less individualist
>why do we hate skinheads
externalised self deception of the slave moralists due to their prominence in media and state institutions. also the fact that skinheads generally do seem to be irrationally hateful.

>>11445943
Because whites have been conditioned to perceive anything promoting white pride as shameful. Meanwhile, every other ethnic group is encouraged to flaunt their respective cultures to promote the myth of multiculturalism.

>>11445946
but you guys can't manipulate them? why are they so powerful? they've been exiled a gorillion times and they are still on top? they must have some sort of superhuman powers. I mean, you guys don't even have to hide your supremacy plot and it still fails miserably every time. are the jews the reptilians? I think I read that in the Gay Science somewhere...

>>11445955
>every minute thing
exactly

>>11445958
They disproportionately represent literally every propagandistic medium of the 20th and 21st centuries. Television, film, Facebook, google etc...

>>11445947
>hates /pol/
>must be liberal

>>11445958
>supremacy plot
stop failing pleb filters
>why do they have power
because we foolishly believe their lies, because they are highly intelligent due to their selective breeding in europe over centuries, because of their subtle tribalism that creates cliques in places of power over information, because we prayed to their god for centuries and are therefore vulnerable to thinking favorably of their moral worldview.
many reasons desu, i think we just really need to our socks up and start thinking rationally about things instead of always boiling questions down to a "evil bigot bad guy thing" and "nice progressive good guy thing" dichotomous attitude which is inherently flawed, though it might be less comfortable and pleasant to do this. our flaw is lacking honesty and the courage to challenge what is now acceptable thought, no one can help fix this but ourselves.

>>11445100
Nietzsche died long before the jews had wreaked havok on Germany. They'd just been let out of the pen/shtetl at that point. Alas, the guy wasn't perfect. Had he lived to witness the kikes putting on donkey show in Berlin he'd have been right there with the rest of his kinsmen.

>>11446057
No I don't think he would have.

He never had nationalist sympathies and denounced his german citizenship

>>11446073
Germany was barely even a unified nation then. Had he witnessed the kikes turning Berlin into a brothel and crashing the economy and all the other shit they did he would have wanted them gone like everyone else.

>>11446083
Because gassing women and children is the best way to solve a problem

>>11446086
Nobody gassed anyone, but jews had no business being in Germany anyway, just as they have no business being in our countries now.

>>11445645
>>11445699
>Resenting the far most intelligent race because of inferiority-complex
The white race will never win because of this

>>11446083
>turning Berlin into a brothel
This is what happens when you depend on Christianity and alcohol too much. Nietzsche's assessments on the Germans didn't cease being valid in the 20th century; he found the root of the problem before it flourished, and it wasn't merely a specific race of people, but a deep-seated ideology.

>>11446116
Jews are parasites who had zero accomplishments on their own, whereas whites are responsible for 97% of all innovation. Nobody needs jews, jews need others, and whites need to finally get these parasites out of our countries because they do only harm.

>>11446123
This! Hitler was right

>>11446120
Christianity is a jewish religion. Nietzsche's observations about it were correct, in that it is representative of how the jew spreads and promotes weakness and the worship of weakness.

>>11446127
When your country is infected with jews you inevitably get a Hitler.

>>11446123
Jews are less than one tenth of one percent of people in the world and have disproportionatley accomplished feats of science, mathematics and culture

>>11446140
Jews had literally zero scientific and technological accomplishments until they were let out of the shtetl and many of their accomplishments since are suspect due to their dishonest and nepotistic nature. They are purely parasitic.

>>11446147
Sure thing bro. And what have you accomplished in your life?

>>11446154
I am part of a race that has created nearly everything and conquered the world; you belong to a race of parasites that inhabits nations that aren't your own and boards that celebrate a culture that isn't your own. I will feel accomplishment if I can convince one other white person of that so that you will one day be stuffed in an oven for real this time, you filthy rat.

>>11446129
Yes, Christianity is a Jewish religion, but Nietzsche also said that anti-Semitism was a byproduct of Semitic values, and that's partly why he separated himself from Wagner. Said values breed a desire for declaring opposites and creating resistance in the world. So when you act like Jews as a whole group are pure evil, or when you assert that you and your group are genetically superior, you are ultimately just propagating their values. Eugenics is a Semitic practice.

>>11446147
They had cultural accomplishments. Nietzsche considered the principle of love to be a Jewish invention, for example.

If you don't read Nietzsche in full, you're liable to make the same ideological mistakes, throwing the baby out with the bathwater AGAIN, and then this vicious cycle will last even longer. Like N said:

>Every time a new world of consciousness is created, the moralists are a sign of damage, impoverishment, disorganization. [...] The moralist disintegrates the moral instincts, however much he may suppose himself to be their restorer.

>>11445645
ffs senpai this is an obvious leftypol troll acting like an obnoxious poltard.

>>11446154
>And what have you accomplished in your life?
>I am part of a race
bahahahahaahah

>>11446190
As I've already stated, Nietzsche was not an expert or the final word on anything, especially so-called "antisemitism," which again he was not privy to the full picture of since jews had only recently been released into the general public. He died before they'd even begun jewing.

>>11446224
sure thing pol

>>11446230
Never posted there. Provide an argument or stay silent.

>>11446147
>Jews had literally zero scientific and technological accomplishments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_scientists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_physicists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_engineers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_chemists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_mathematicians

Really gets your noggin joggin

He was being triple sarcastic and edgy to piss off his contemporaries across Europe. It's a spiteful middle finger that he later came to regret.

>>11446224
>Nietzsche was not an expert
lol, okay champ.

>>11446140
>feats of science, mathematics
correct. thats the power of their eugenics
>culture
lol no

>>11446237
I'm assuming the reason you dishonestly cut off that sentence where you did is because you're a kike.

No surprise here.

>>11446235
sure you didn't

>>11446254
The rest of your sentence is so retarded I don't even want to talk about it, but fine. Jews were always disproportionately contributing to advances in Science, even when they were in the "shtetels", obviously once they received equal rights in the Jewish Emancipation, their contributions got even bigger :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Medieval_Jewish_astronomers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_bar_Hiyya
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-science-in-the-middle-ages/

>>11446271
Here's a good paper about this subject,http://www.pitt.edu/~brg/pdfs/brg_v_6.pdf

That is, if you are actually willing to read and educate yourself, which is why we're all here on /lit/ right?

>>11446278
lol no

>>11446271
This narrative doesn't fly anymore, jew. "Emancipated"? You are parasitic loiterers who have no right to be in our countries, and it's a simple fact that you can look up in Human Accomplishment that jews contributed literally nothing in terms of innovation prior to the 1800s.

The jew needs a host, nobody needs it. And the supposed accomplishments of jews after 1800 are frequently marred in scandal due to the dishonest nature of the jew, but even they weren't whites should not care, because jewish influence is overwhelmingly negative.

>>11446190
>it would be jewish to do and therefore bad
>fuck using opposites of demonised ideals to create values though
he trips himself up, nice one nitza

Jews are toiling away night and day to dodge the coming Ovening, it is so obvious in threads on this site

>>11446297
>he trips himself up
He doesn't, because he wasn't anti-Semitic in the first place. His will to power is a conjoining of both the Dionysian and Apollonian forces. If only guys like Heidegger actually understood what this meant rather than clumsily wading through Nietzsche and then continuing the chain of Christian theistic metaphysics nonsense that Nietzsche had done away with when he separated from Schopenhauer.

>>11445100
far right prosemites RISE UP

>>11446317
>anti-Semitic
One is not either/or, okay? There is no "antisemitism" without semitism, because jews cause "antisemitism," get it? Furthermore, "antisemitism" is based purely on one's knowledge about jewish behavior, and as has already been established itt Nietzsche died before the jews began jewing in Germany.

Words mean something.

>>11446293
Thanks to people like you, we rightfully took back our homeland and built a beautiful country with cutting-edge technology and military capabilities unrivaled by even the largest European powers

>>11445116
He wasn't wrong.

>>11446333
You mean that desert fiefdom propped up by the US that you won't hold onto for another half a century? The plan is to send you all there then take your parasitic race out for good with one bang. Do not have pride, jew, you are the rat of humanity that destroys everything you touch.

>>11446340
I agree, I was enjoying our NRX far right reaction and then it just devolved into all jews all the time, what a fucking waste

>>11446350
>The plan is to send you all there then take your parasitic race out for good with one bang

Whose plan is that? I thought the Jews controlled the world.

Man you guys are intellectually inconsistent with your anti-semitism

>>11446356
Nrx is irrelevant now because every non-jew that was involved with it became aware of the jewish problem.

wow... jews really are the master race.

>>11446360
>I thought the Jews controlled the world.
Only jews like you say that.

>>11446365
Nrx is irrelevant now because youre a fucking blockhead

>>11446140
>Jews are less than one tenth of one percent of people in the world and have disproportionatley accomplished feats of science, mathematics and culture
Nothing suspicious about that at all! Must be them Superior Jewish genes... Couldn't be nepotism!

>>11446331
>>11446317
but isnt this "dichotomy of the absolute evil and its opposite, the absolute good" what can be called semitism? and so his disgust of it and its creations is somehow not the thing anti-semitism he is criticising?

>>11446373
IQ tests don't measure nepotism, my friend

>>11446373
nepotism is good, high IQ is good, if you dont believe this you arent right wing so fuck off

We blame jews for doing exactly what theyre supposed to do.

>>11446370
dodging the question like a typical 100 iq blockhead.

>>11446380
Having a higher IQ does not disqualify nepotism. There are people with high IQs living in their Mom's basement.

>>11446380
It's only verbal IQ that is a result of memorizing talmud passages about the proper way for a rabbi to suck a baby's penis.

>>11446375
>but isnt this "dichotomy of the absolute evil and its opposite, the absolute good" what can be called semitism?
Yes, exactly. That's what I was saying before and what N was saying. It doesn't matter if things got out of control in Germany only after Nietzsche's time, his argument is not founded on something that simply becomes invalid due to national and cultural changes.

There is a battle to be fought here, but it's always the wrong one being fought. That's what N was trying to tell everyone.

>>11446396
its becoming clear were going to have to fight the wrong battle at least once more. And being pessimistic I don't see it ending even then

>>11446383
>We blame jews for doing exactly what theyre supposed to do.
This. And to top it off with a bit of irony, this was the original Semitic tactic when they invented the notion of the term satan.

>>11446190
>Nietzsche considered the principle of love to be a Jewish invention, for example.
so he was an absolute pseud

>>11446396
but then the same thing he uses to criticise anti-semites (as he knew them and as they existed at the time) is also his reason for criticising them. he sweeps the rug out from under himself.

unless he was simply disliking the victimwank of "muh evil jews did horrible things to our poor european culture" that we see every now and then for the pathetic contradictory thing that it is.

>>11446116
the way you yids psychologize everyone is probably one of your most odious qualities

>>11446383
I do. I was just doing a bit of devil's advocate.

Listen, plebs. The most important thing Nietzsche said with regard to jews is in Genealogy and related to the transvaluation of values, where he explained how jews invert the morals and norms of others to weaken the host society.

>Roman values = worship of strength
>jewish values = the worship of weakness

Because the jewish strategy is and always has been to use the weak to attack the host. This is what Nietzsche calls the slave revolt.

>>11446445
not our fault that we can read into other people. something that white "people" are clearly incapable of.

>>11446462

>>11446462
>>11446473
That's it, that's the game.

>>11446434
His criticism was not a complete rejection. The rabbit hole here goes much deeper. If it was, he'd have to reject all the things he attributed to the Semites — like the rigorous fine-tuning of logic which developed the sciences for centuries, or the fictitious concept of negation in mathematics which evolved our formulas, or being AND becoming (because the one defines the other), or the principle of love (which is different from Greek love, i.e. noble love; it is Christian love, submissive love, the type that most people are more acquainted with today). Instead, N doesn't reject — he devises a new principle which harnesses the power of it all, which is will to power.

>To impose upon becoming the character of being—that is the supreme will to power. Twofold falsification, on the part of the senses and of the spirit, to preserve a world of that which is, which abides, which is equivalent, etc. That everything recurs is the closest approximation of a world of becoming to a world of being:—high point of the meditation. [...] The entire idealism of mankind hitherto is on the point of changing suddenly into nihilism—into the belief in absolute worthlessness, i.e., meaninglessness. The destruction of ideals, the new desert; new arts by means of which we can endure it, we amphibians. Presupposition: bravery, patience, no "turning back," no haste to go forward. (N.B. Zarathustra adopts a parodistic attitude toward all former values as a consequence of his abundance.)

>>11446466
>we can read into other people.
the shameless, narcissistic lying is higher on the list though

>>11445943
because skinheads are niggers and whites have amicable relations with asians, latinos and jews. only a small proportion of whites are disadvantaged by this because they are cronyist nepotist aristocrata and brutish timocrats. We aren’t actually being controlled by or depressed by jews, anglos have done far more to harm the planet.

>>11446500
the highly logical attitude to "should" and "ought" in western thought has a greek origin no? christ later inspired by this?
>fictitious concept of negation in mathematics which evolved our formulas
you cant be serious
>greek love and christian "love"
bear in mind that not all european languages split love up into various words, in english for example i think has only ever been one (confirm?) to refer to the love of woman/god/family/concepts

>>11446533
Nobody has done more harm to the planet than jews and nobody is responsible for more death than jews. Fuck off, kike.

>>11446389
its not, Jews hae higher mathematical reasoning than most whites too, only their visuo-spatial reasoning is slightly impaired; except its not, because a huge number of mathematicians who did work in geometry and with highly visually intensive fields were Jewish and contributed to an award winning degree to maths. You don’t know what you’re talking about

>>11446547
>Nobody has done more harm to the planet than jews
chinese
>deaths
for all they are that is terrible for humanity i dont think they cause deaths very often(aside from recent bolshevik genocides), its too apparently cruel to make it through their dishonesty.

>>11446547
Jews haven’t killed very many people and White Germanics and Anglos have damaged the planet more than any other race, kill yourself stormnigger
>>11446543
pseud lol

>>11446568
All jewish ideologies, and jews were heavily involved in the Chinese revolution as well. They are a death cult through and through, their entire culture revolves around genocide.

>>11446533
anglos are literally just cuckold slaves to the Jews and have been for centuries

>>11446576
Jews killed more people than anyone last century. They were directly or indirectly responsible for nearly every genocide of the 20th century. Upwards of 66 million in Russia alone.

>>11446583
No there actually was not, the /pol/ china thing is fake as fuck, none of those guys were important to the power structure of the party at all. Jews didn’t do the cultural revolution
>>11446591
No they’re the wealthiest ethnic group on Earth besides Germans and have done nothing but destroy the economy of Europe and split eurasia from America.
>>11446596
No they weren’t this is a lie.

So Nietzsche considers Jews as the main peddlers of slave morality and everything that is life-denying yet admires them for their ability to survive in the most adverse of conditions? Is that correct?

>>11446612
finally, someone using logic and reason on /lit/, who would have figured

>>11446612
You're a jew and you're lying. Are you capable of realizing that the dishonesty you're displaying here is the reason why you're continually removed from the nations of others? Can your kike brain process that or is the self-deception that deep?

>>11446612
>No they weren’t this is a lie.
untrue, the bolshevik genocides where by far the most destructive of any other example in the last century, that is true. plus communism is inherently jewish

>>11446623
Nuance is important; because Nietzsche isn't actually an opponent of slave morality. Or rather he isn't a moral objectivist who declares one morality or another to be superior. In that sense, he is often mislabeled as a nihlist. But Judaism represents to Nietzsche a revolutionary spirit which seeks to challenge the dominant modes of being-- so its a peoples that are simultaneously of a slavish nature but also revolutionary and powerful in their thinking

>>11446612
>Jews didn’t do the cultural revolution

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/the-jewish-origins-of-maos-communist-regime-in-china-mao-zedong-yale-illuminati-skull-bones/

The jews and their lies. They don't understand any other way. The truth to the jew is whatever happens to be good for jews in that moment.

>>11446628
substantiate your allegations rather than projecting your nature onto this friendly jew anon.

>>11446642
>illuminati skull bones

>>11446644
You shouldn't be posting here in the first place, jew.

>>11446642
mao, cia, illumanti, synagogue of satan, and yale university.
I sincerely hope you get help.

>>11446642
lmaooo

>>11446647
Google "Mao's jews" if the link is not to your liking; there are plenty of others.

>>11446649
wow, more projection. that's all you wiggers do.

>>11446659
You need to go, you don't belong here, jew.

>>11446664
i bet you say that to all the jews you encounter in your day to day life, mr brave

>>11446664
i can tolerate wh*te "people" in my presence. obviously you're the thin skinned one here.

>the boogeyman
You know how I know you're all a bunch of untermenschen

>>11446665
>>11446670
Why are you still here? This is a board for white culture, you are rats from the desert. You need to leave immediately.

>>11446634
>communism is inherently jewish
>Greedy Juden wants to share equally
REALLY makes you think

>>11445100
... I know that in the whole world there is certainly no other people who would be complaining as much about their lot, incessantly, after each step and word of theirs -- about their humiliation, their suffering, their martyrdom. One might think it is not they who are reigning in Europe, who are directing there at least the stock exchanges and, therefore, politics, domestic affairs, the morality of the states.

... Now, how would it be if in Russia there were not three million Jews, but three million Russians, and there were eighty million Jews -- well, into what would they convert the Russians and how would they treat them? Would they permit them to acquire equal rights? Would they permit them to worship freely in their midst? Wouldn't they convert them into slaves? Worse than that: wouldn't they skin them altogether? Wouldn't they slaughter them to the last man, to the point of complete extermination, as they used to do with aliens in ancient times, during their ancient history?

... It is possible to outline, at least, certain symptoms of that status in statu -- be it only externally. These symptoms are: alienation and estrangement in the matter of religious dogma; the impossibility of fusion; belief that in the world there exists but one national entity, the Jew, while, even though other entities exist, nevertheless, it should be presumed that they are, as it were, nonexistent. 'Step out of the family of nations and form your own entity, and thou shalt know that henceforth thou art the only one before God; exterminate the rest, or make slaves of them. Have faith in the conquest of the whole world; adhere to the belief that everything will submit to thee. Loathe strictly everything, and do not have intercourse with anyone in thy mode of living. And even when thou shalt lose the land, thy political individuality, even when thou shalt be dispersed all over the face of the earth, amidst all nations -- never mind, have faith in everything that has been promised thee, once and forever; believe that all this will come to pass, and meanwhile live, loathe, unite, and exploit -- and wait, wait ....

>>11445100
>>11446692
Thus, Jewry is thriving precisely there where the people are still ignorant, or not free, or economically backward. It is there that Jewry has a champ libre. And instead of raising, by its influence, the level of education, instead of increasing knowledge, generating economic fitness in the native population -- instead of this the Jew, wherever he has settled, has still more humiliated and debauched the people; there humaneness was still more debased and the educational level fell still lower; there inescapable, inhuman misery, and with it despair, spread still more disgustingly. Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew -- and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. 'He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood.'

And, in truth, the whole activity of the Jews in these border regions of ours consisted of rendering the native population as much as possible inescapably dependent on them, taking advantage of the local laws. They have always managed to be on friendly terms with those upon whom the people were dependent. Point to any other tribe from among Russian aliens which could rival the Jew by his dreadful influence in this connection! You will find no such tribe. In this respect the Jew preserves all his originality as compared with other Russian aliens, and of course, the reason therefore is that status of statu of his, that spirit of which specifically breathes pitilessness for everything that is not Jew, with disrespect for any people and tribe, for every human creature who is not a Jew....

Now, what if somehow, for some reason, our rural commune [i.e., the institutionalized system of Russian peasant society] should disintegrate, that commune which is protecting our poor native peasant against so many ills; what if, straightaway, the Jew and his whole kehillah [i.e., organized Jewry] should fall upon that liberated peasant -- so inexperienced, so incapable of resisting temptation, and who up to this time has been guarded precisely by the commune? Why, of course, instantly this would be his end; his entire property, his whole strength, the very next day would come under the power of the Jew, and there would ensue such an era as can be compared not only with the era of serfdom but even with that of the Tartar yoke.

>>11445629
I'm starting to believe anti-semites are people that got BTFOED by jews on debates and now are forever butthurt.

>>11446612
>*hebraic screeching*

>>11446690
>xenophobia is inherently evil
>nationalist israelites want open borders for everyone

>implying the higher ranks had equal wealth
>implying people even had equal treatment
read solhenetsyn bud

>>11446690
>communists seriously believe in communism
if you’re this naive you don’t belong here

>>11446699
That's because you're a retarded 14 year old mulatto who can barely tie his shoes.

>>11446699
Hitler didn't get into that art school he wanted to so badly..

>>11446699
thats why antisemitism and far right reactionaryism in general is censored and desperately kept hidden, because the jews always win the debates? grow up

>>11445149
>non plus ultra of histrionic genius
this is pretty unambiguous language and typifies the modern "antisemitic" characterization of Jews. If you don't understand the portrait he's trying to paint with this language you're either retarded or lying to cover something up

>>11446707
>xenophobia is inherently evil
>nationalist israelites want open borders for everyone
This works in his nationalist favor whereas being greedy and sharing doesn't

>implying the higher ranks had equal wealth
>implying people even had equal treatment
>Not. Real. Marxism.
Read less think more

>>11446710
>Communism with 20th century technology
Go lurk /sci/

>>11446684
no.

>>11446543
Christianity was inspired by Plato and the Stoics, which N regarded as Greek degeneracy. He considered Plato hardly a Greek and the Stoics to be Semites for all intents and purposes. I'm really just repeating what N said.

>>11446711
>t. btfo'd by juden and mulattos
Fucking pathetic

>>11445149
Is this real? This feels like "the Jews are globalists - and that's a GOOD thing"

>>11446738
>not real marxism
we were talking about the bolsheviks you dunce real marxism or not, the jews were a huge part of its revolution, stop shifting the goalposts and listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PkCQYsgWUc&t=15384s while shitposting.

you misunderstood my point on isreali nationalism. they hate the earthly sins of inequality and tribalism but they only hate these things in gentiles. they are the chosen people so they deserve them of course.

>>11446766
Yea its a quote from Beyond Good and Evil

>>11446635

>>11446766
>and that's a GOOD thing
That's not what he is saying you are just a brainlet

>>11446738
>read less
>lurk popsci
quintessentially /lit/ post

>>11446771
Hold on a minute buddy, I was only replying to the inherency statement, whatever you brought around after that is your mistake

Let's not pretend anyone thinks nationalist sensibilities were not the norm a hundred years ago, and a hundred years before that, and.. So to say the "JEWS" were majorly involved in the Bolshevik revolution isn't a) brave or revealing or b) applicable to the idea of their conspired global conquest today, you're confusing birthright with mafia-esque dealings, the Italian mafia in America being prosecuted (hypothetically) didn't mean everyone with Italian blood was pistol whipped on sight etc

And no I understood it, you didn't understand what I said, greed is a characteristic of the "Jew" yet they are also sharing, which is a communist characteristic , the two are not compatible so how is the latter concept tied inherently to the former

To go further into how you're also wrong about what you're saying about the nationalist Jew,
>nationalist Jew wants open borders for everyone except himself
>this is a good thing for him
You'd only be making a point if you dropped "nationalist" from your claim otherwise it's a "durr no shit, that's what nationalism means', so heavens knows why you posted that as a defense for how communism isn't Jewish, again, as I was pointing out a contradiction, and you didn't

>>11446794
Surely you realize it couldn't be more tongue-in-cheek

>>11446889
you are pointing out a contradiction in them and pretending that it proves me wrong.

here are two things that are undeniably true
1. jews despise xenophobia and ethnocentrism as evil unclean earthly things
2. jews are highly tribalist and vehemently defend their ethnic claim to the land of israel, calling all who disagree antisemitic (evil to them)

here are two more things that you pointed out
1. jews love equality (financial and otherwise) and strongly dislike chaste based hierarchical societies
2. they also condone and practice usury more than any other group and make sure to usher their kinsman into their economic covens.

you used this information to prove the anti-semitism is somehow wrong. or that jews somehow are not aligned morally with the values of communism.
the correct conclusion to draw is that the jews are a highly intellectually dishonest people. which is what anti-semites have been saying for centuries now.
the contradiction is there, you are right about that but it doesnt prove me wrong.

>>11446116
>The white race will never win because of this

Whites (may) never win because our brains developed empathy and we have have weak in-group preference compared to other races(specially to your repitilian race).

>>11446445

It's just classic j*wish projection m8, also don't bother trying to argue with them, they'll just pilpul ad-infinitum until they "win" the argument,that's the way their brains are wired, can't blame them desu.

>>11446634

The big death tolls related to Communism in the Soviet union were due to the civil war, and later because of Stalin, who really didn't like those Jews.


>plus communism is inherently jewish

How? It was not even invented by Jews, or a Jew. But I guess you mean Marxism. Which was made by a borderline antisemitic atheist Jew, whose ideas stem from white European thought.

>>11446935
>ideas stem from white European thought
also dont forget lenin

>>11446925
>1. jews despise xenophobia and ethnocentrism as evil unclean earthly things
>2. jews are highly tribalist and vehemently defend their ethnic claim to the land of israel, calling all who disagree antisemitic (evil to them)
>Drops the word nationalist like I told him to and now pretends like I didn't complete his idea for him
Fast learner, slightly dishonest.. Are you by any chance Jewish? Going by your own description of course

1. jews love equality (financial and otherwise) and strongly dislike chaste based hierarchical societies
2. they also condone and practice usury more than any other group and make sure to usher their kinsman into their economic covens.
Dialing your prose to 6 doesn't make "communism inherently Jewish”

>>11446935
Everything in this post is wrong. You must be yet another jew itt lying his ass off, you kikes don't know when to stop.

>>11446953
and Engels...people always forget Engels

>>11446957
no but the presence of jews in its revolutions (CoC, solhe, etc), their role in its creation and implementation and the fact that it stems from their value system does.
your statement was that their contradiction somehow disproves this. i said that it does not and only proves they are dishonest.

>i didnt use the word nationalist
fuck off you fucking spastic niggershit, ethnocentrism, tribalism, etc are practically synonymous with nationalism. i didnt use that word as a fucking coincidence. you didnt do shit for my ideas you fucking invalid. you fucking wretch. you are by far the most retarded person in this thread you inbred dumbshit fucking faggot

>>11446975
>anyone that disagrees with me is a kike

>>11446953
Are you telling me Hegel and all his other influences was a crypto kike? Hell, the labor theory of value was made by whites as well.
>lenin

>Lenin's father, Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov, was from a family of serfs; his ethnic origins remain unclear, with suggestions being made that he was Russian, Chuvash, Mordvin, or Kalmyk.[2] Despite this lower-class background he had risen to middle-class status, studying physics and mathematics at Kazan Imperial University before teaching at the Penza Institute for the Nobility.[3] Ilya married Maria Alexandrovna Blank in mid-1863.[4] Well educated and from a relatively prosperous background, she was the daughter of a German–Swedish mother and a Russian Jewish father who had converted to Christianity and worked as a physician.[5] It is likely that Lenin was unaware of his mother's half-Jewish ancestry, which was only discovered by his sister Anna after his death.[6]

You call this a Jew?

As for the mass deaths:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1921%E2%80%9322

Can't really pin it on him alone or the Bolshevik's. Also the guy died in 1924.

>>11446975
How is everything in his post wrong if everything in your post is wrong

JEWISH REICH WHEN
RISE MY SEMITE BROTHERS, MULTICULTURALISM HAS FAILED US, THE TIME IS NOW TO ASSERT OUR SUPERIORITY

>>11446975

Alright, this has to be some ruse to either get spoonefed, or something else.

>>11446953
>Marx was influenced by Lenin
wow how do I get ideology this powerful??

>>11446995
PLEKHANOV WAS THE ANTICHRIST FEW KNOW THIS

>>11446978
Stop extrapolating the Jewish role in Bolshevik revolution into the current day, 100 years ago doing what you're claiming the Jew's are doing now wasn't taboo, this I've already said, it was the status quo for the past 500 years prior to that, and Jews flourished in Russia of all places where as other countries were blowing their load though imperialism and colonialism, surely now you'll tell me the Jew's have been oppressing whites since their emancipation from the Egyptians by Moses, give me a break

Yeah, you did, aaand you're fucking welcome

>>11447023
nowhere did i claim victimhood like that. stop trying to pidgeonhole divergent opinions into categories you already know about.