/lit/ - Literature

First for WE ARE ALONE

the fi in sci-fi stands for FICTION you clowns

I’ve always been an avid sci-fi hater mostly because “nerds”, but I picked up Starship Troopers some days ago and this shit is hella lit. Realized that I’ve missed out some great stuff for being a judgemental bitch

Viriconium series sounds cool, anyone read them?

>>11442091
>No hot alien babes to fuck.
How horrible.

>>11442111
Now you can be a judgmental bitch that reads sci-fi.

>>11442076
From previous thread:
Currently reading the second book of the Gap Cycle and I'm not sure how I feel about it. On one hand, the sci-fi elements have some thought put into them and the characters are a step above regular sci-fi. On the other hand, it feels like I'm reading some creep's mind break fetish fantasy.
Do all the books focus on Morn getting raped by each and every character or does the story actually develop at some point?

sanderfag a hack

rossfoss a sherbet

>>11442116
I'm not even sure if this is shitposting/ritual posting anymore.
Read the previous threads, if not.

>anon complains about a litRPG book being bad

well what did you expect from the author who wrote something called "GAMER FOR LIFE"?

>>11442263
Dungeons Deposed is great though.
Why can't I stop reading this super sales fuck's books?

>>11442310
One of us

>>11442394

>>11442310
That author lurks in sffg. I'm sure of it. He had milfs in his books.

Moiraine is the best Wheel of Time girl

>>11442076
>tfw you will never be an internationally acclaimed web novel author

>>11442520
>tfw you will never be a well known translator making 100 dollars a month

>>11442533
Actually that is something I wish I could do also.

The amount of work they put in vs the amount of money you can make doing something you enjoy is bretty gud.

>>11442520
Just write a superhero story about a teenage girl with superpowers (the powers must appear weak on the surface but actually be strong in hindsight) that is morally gray.

>>11442601
and bisexual
and dresses slutty but hates men looking at her

>>11442601
>>11442603
perfect. now be sure to market it to small girls and you will rake in dosh.

Amberhacky a fag

>>11442601
A Simple Guide to Writing a Shitty Worm knockoff:

>Teenage girl with weak powers that allow for a lot of room for munchkining
>Subverting/Reconstructing/Deconstructing/Buzzwording whatever superhero trope you find yourself coming across
>Morals grayer than what's under your mom's wig
>Conflict after conflict with little breaks, each has to be bigger and longer than the last
>YA to Grimdark or bust
>Characters get their powers from trauma and the power must be a tragic metaphor for said trauma (Except rape because that would piss people off)
>Interlude chapters showing how that asshole from a few chapters ago is actually justified from their point of view
>Final antagonist should be introduced early on as the last person anyone would expect to be an antagonist
>Protagonist most solve the final conflict at the cost of their sanity
>If you're at the end and it can't compare to the top 5 longest novels on record you fucked up

Once your story reaches the point where it floods the fanfiction communities of obscure scifi forums then you can open your patreon and it's smooth sailing from there.

I'm currently reading book 3 and I gotta ask, Jolenta being the inn keeper girl, Dorcas being a resurrected corpse, and Jonas being an android were all stupidly obvious, right? they are not supposed to be any kind of big reveal right?

Daily reminder that the universe is xboxhueg and we cannot be a unique case.

>>11442812
>we cannot be a unique case
show your work for the class please

>>11442815
https://youtu.be/udAL48P5NJU
Thinking we're the only intelligent life in all the universe is nothing but pure ego, prove me wrong

>>11442815
Show your working of the opposite

>>11442830
>>11442854
Easy, so far as we know, our case is unique.
Your turn.

>>11442861
>so far as we know

How many other Gods must exist for other races to exist?

>>11442874
zero

>>11442874
What's a god?

>>11442870
Indeed, such is the limit of our ability to prove.

>>11442874
Why needst there be another?

>>11442881
Do you believe there is a molten core at the center of our planet?

>>11442898
Not necessarily, why?

>>11442761
Yeah they're all supposed to be obvious.

What's some good retrofuturistic scifi?

I wanted to read Radiance really badly but I can't stand the narration style

>>11442907
Just checking what other faith-based beliefs you may currently have.
I'm comfortable saying that there is other intelligent life out there because we exist, and we know such a small amount of what goes on in the tiny bit of space around us, and with as big as the universe it is simply makes sense.

To say we are the only intelligent life in the universe is pure ego, prove me wrong.

>>11442916
Such that can be proven, has. Yours was not the validated theory.

To say we are not the only intelligent life in the universe is pure wishful thinking, prove me wrong.

>>11442938
I can't imagine being this locked in to ego and a need to feel special. We'll agree to disagree

>>11442952
That's not how it works. Allow me to insult you as well, then we can agree to disagree.

We can't prove either way and will likely never be able to

science itself is a faith based belief

The idea that there are "laws" that the universe operates based on, is faith based

I guess I can take comfort that we're the center of the universe. Feels good

>>11443000
Not so loud
they'll hear you

>>11443000
They are laws* that constantly change and evolve

*as well as we know currently

>>11443016
Should have called them Universal Guesstimations, then people wouldn't get confused.

>>11443001
>observable universe
please be patient i have autism

>>11443041
From rotation we don't think we are the centre do we? There is a super massive black abyss filled with demons

>>11443060
im confused

>space is big
>we exist
>planets similar to earth exist
>reasonable conclusion is that aliens exist
Checkmate theists

>>11443144
>planets similar to earth exist
wrong

>>11443099
From the angles of expansion or the rotation or some shit we aren't the centre

My alien wife is out there right now reading a book about weird monkey men losers who sit on the internet all day arguing about dumb shit.

>>11443161
>wrong
wrong

>>11443171
They discovered planets with life while I slept the sleep of unbelief? Please illuminate me!

>>11443182
>with life
I didn't say that, i said that planets like earth (atmosphere, solar system structure (including a sun)) exist. It isn't incorrect to assume that somewhere in the billions of planets at least one has developed some level of sapient life.

dumb thread desu

>>11443189
>I didn't say that, i said that planets like earth (atmosphere, solar system structure (including a sun)) exist.
Not all all like earth then. Just pointless humps of cosmic dust afloat in the galactic flatulence.
>>11443196
Be the change you desire, comrade!

How would you do medieval on a spaceship? What technologies would you allow scarcely or commonly, how would you have leadership?

>>11443201
What's so wrong with the idea of other beings out in the universe developing intelligence?

>>11443211
Some people need to cling to the idea that they're special to keep them from slipping in to the void

>>11442486
does it really matter who the best turd is?

>>11442151
Thanks for confirmation that I’ll never enjoy Donaldson. I hated Lord Foul’s Bane.

>>11442914
Sewer, Gas and Electric by Matt Ruff

>>11443027
Linguistic hedging is for pussies
I mean, there is no need to litter every word and sentence with vagueness, when you can't necessary be 100% precise about that and or everything/anything, I think

AMAZON RECOMMENDED CHART WHEN

>>11442675
Good post.

>>11443206
How big is the space ship?
Do they know that they are on a space ship?

Houses built around profiting from essential services seem an easy shoe-horn plot hook.

>medical officers were the only ones who could access the medical bays
>space ship gets stranded in deep space
>30,000 years later their descendants are the only ones who can use the life saving cure all pods.

Ditto for officer only areas, etc

>>11443216
>>11443211
>>11442076
You’ll never convince reductionists. Meanwhile, here’s Avi Loeb, chair of Harvard Astronomy, explaining the commonality of planets in the habitable zone (1/4th of all stars in the Milky Way) and how he thinks life on Earth shouldn’t be thought of as unique.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PeHdqpTr170

>>11443518
Venus and mars are in the so called "habitable" zone

>>11443521
That’s the equivalent of anecdotal evidence.

>>11443521
That's not helping your argument much because, as you pointed out, there's a 1 in 3 chance of a planet in the habitable zone having life.

>>11443560
1 in 9

>>11443570

>>11443570
We don’t have 9 planets in the habitable zone

>>11443577
we don't even have 9 planets.

>>11443577
That YOU know about

>>11443572
no ?
Planets can be internally heated, or have a thick atmosphere that allows liquid water well outside any meme "habitable zone"

Also suns are all different in size/output

>>11443589
Don't get me started on Neil Ass-Tyson and his fuck up on Pluto

>>11443485
Let's say 15,000 people mixture of crew, passengers, VIPs
They know they're on a spaceship, but there was a long period of no power which pushed them back, Do you see that as taking as much as 30,000 years, or do you think you could see changes in hundreds?

>>11443627
Make it say 4 or 5 generations so that the originals and their immediate children and grand children are gone. That means no one alive first hand would have seen how it use to be. More the better but I would say that's the minimum.

>>11443518
>Avi Loeb
/pol was right once again.
And seriously, stop posting shitty TED talks.
There is absolutely no evidence of the existence of inteligent extraterrestrial life. You should count yourself lucky if we stumble upon some organic sludge somewhere.

is worm any fun to read?

>>11443635
>retarded /pol/fag
>can't into logical reasoning
Checks out

>>11443635
>there is absolutely no evidence as long as you stop posting all these equations and evidence
>my own eyes REEE

>>11443668
Yes, and it's good.

One and a half week left!

Downloads: https://b-ok.xyz/s/?q=the+stars+my+destination

>>11443690
Finished it already, fucking loved it
Why hadn't I ever heard of it before?

>>11443668
if you're a depressed, suicidal, anti-authoritarian wreck with shit taste, sure
otherwise, avoid it like the plague

>>11442998
We can:
http://www.torahcodes.net/new/pages/top.html

>>11443697
im only one of those, but i think i'll read it thanks

>>11443690
Why does this say read Roadside Picnic? Do I need to before reading this story?

>>11443236
Rude

Just finished the first Mistborn. What did I think about it?

>>11443789
i cant get through the first half of the first book
does it get better

second book in paternus trilogy came out. Pretty cool plot revolving around mythological creatures in the modern world. Kind of dumb romance thing but overall fun book. would recommend

>>11443777
Roadside picnic is next afther this

>>11443697
Fucking neat, hits all three for me

>>11442761
here's a hint kiddo, there's no big reveals in the book. there's things you'll pick up on and others you wont.

>>11443777
Checked.

The poll was a tie so we won't vote for the next book once we're done with this one.

did anyone read that self published book that had the really cool cover yet? it came out recently. it had a knight covered in blood on the front with a lovecraftian horror looking thing behind it. it was like, stars bleed or something?

>>11443799
I personally didn't have any major problems with the first half. Then again, I read the french translation, and I heard that this was one of Sanderson's rougher novels writing style-wise.

Anything where a character from modern day gets sent back in time/to a fantasy world, but the modern world has made him soft so he gets carried by the team and whines about really mundane stuff like a lack of sun cream?

I just finished the 3rd book in The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman and it managed to be both almost really good and really fucking awful at the same time.


The main character is one of the most cucked protags I've ever seen. Hes a magician of course, but he barely ever uses magic (multiple times every book he has to deal with almost dying of cold or having wet clothes or travelling all of which are problems that can canonically be solved by magic but he just doesn't). He's also pathetically awful at fighting and refuses to kill anyone even when his life is in danger because the author thinks that would make him less sympathetic or some shit. At the beginning of the series he has this creepy beta respect women but also be really attracted to all of them thing going on and he never really loses it. I think the author is one of those feminist nice guy types.


Speaking of the author, he was the main thing that made this series shit. If I had to describe it in a buzzword, I would say he embodies the reddittor stereotype. Every major female character must be shown to be better than the main character at fighting, smarter than the main character, of course better than him at magic, etc. Women are strong, its 2018, thats a good thing.

The author also used internet slang for no fucking reason (when he used ftw and lulz unironically within 2 pages I actually had to dig out my camera and make a quick addition to my cringe comp) and had some character regain the will to live because bacon is just so hella epic.


I also cant count how many fucking times he talked about how great nerds were and how smart all the characters were and how the understood lots of physics and math. 1/2

He had the leddittard's stem and "nerd culture" worship and apparently didn't think any characters without anime level 200 iq intelligence were interesting because he didn't write any.

There was also a lot of cringy shit about depression that I wont get into(dude the real world sucks xD) 2/3 because im getting spam filtered

Really the only good thing about these books and the reason I kept reading was that the world was kind of interesting and the magic was pretty cool. I dont know why I read them all desu.

It made me appreciate PoN for being the based gri series and featuring non cucked characters and no vile memes from 2007. Thanks for reading my blog. Dont buy these books.

>>11444153
That face tells me half of what I need to know already. They say not to judge a book by it's cover, but why you gotta make it so hard?

>>11443690
I guess I need to read this when I finish Terminal World can't wait to participate in a one-post discussion with replies from all seven people who read the book! although what more can we realistically expect?

>>11442486
this is true, but only if you take lanfear out of the running (probably fair, because she's leagues above the rest!)

All this talk of web novels, has anyone read this one?
https://twinlamps7.wixsite.com/skysight

>>11442076
Hey, I'm new here and I don't want to trigger the autist that scream "fiction is literature", so I'm going to poat this question here instead. How are the Mass Effect books?

>The book of the new sun
>Leviathan wakes
>A fire upon the deep
>Altered carbon

Which one should I read next?

>>11444415
>A fire upon the deep
if you like book about puppies

>>11444415
Add Use of weapons to that list

>>11444422
This. Only book in the series I've read so far, but thoroughly enjoyable.

>>11444400
I've heard they're not great but I haven't read them, I enjoyed the Dragon Age books if that means anything though.

>>11443686
>speculation is evidence
Adorable

>>11444624
>desire to be a universal special snowflake intensifies

>>11443854
Tried too but no one uploaded an epub.

>>11442141
moar

>>11444695
It is already achieved. Unfortunately, you will never slam prime Arcturan spawning duct.

>>11444753
To be fair nobody has proven that those dots we see in the sky are anything but giant spotlights in a dome

>>11443690
>~50 pages a week
Why even do this?
No one reads that fast.

>both epub and mobi have a blank line in between every single paragraph
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>11444802
Ebin ruse

>>11444802
dude i read like 100~ pages a day. what the fuck is wrong with you incel thats like an hour or two of reading

>>11444802
>>11445072
When I was in college one of my literature professors was rumored to read at least 100 pages a week, but no one believed such a feat was possible......

Oh shit

>>11442761
wow good job anon. you are a real sharp reader, bet you also know by now that it was severian himself and not the claw that ressurected himself and other corpes throughout the book.

>>11444400
Read Revelation Space instead, it is an actually-worthwhile Mass Erect.

>>11445131
>nearly 61 hours
uh what?

>>11444703
what was it called?

Threadly Reminder
Daniel Black Book 4 in October.

>>11444803
>both epub and mobi have a blank line in between every single paragraph
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Try converting fron format to the other with Calibre with the heuristic processing engaged. That function has often saved my butt with shitty pirated ebooks.

>>11445357
>Warning: This novel contains graphic violence, inventive sex, unconventional opinions and a protagonist who has no interest in being normal. Read at your own risk.

has anyone read pic related? they're both at the "new book" store in my city. I didn't want to shell out 20+ dollars for either before asking around.

>>11445517
me again, both are short story collections.

Am I just new to scifi or is the Foundation trilogy really good?

>>11445537
It's good

>>11445537
Really fucking good. "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" did you read that part yet?

Can't go wrong with Asimov.. Check out his short stories. I can't read anything but Asmiov Bradbury, Clarke, Dick, and maybe Niven (couldn't find an E name)

THat's why I'm apprehensive about buying >>11445517 because how can scifi ever recover from the retirement of those i mentioned? :( I want it to be good, so badly I want it, but it's never going to happen.

tl;dr Read Foundation and enjoy it!

>>11445621
>when you go to buy I-Robot at the bookstore for your flight but they only have the Will Smith movie cover edition

>>11445625
Below is the only version that I have ;)

/Isaac_Asimov_-_I_Robot.pdf

>>11445625
Honestly you're better off picking up The Complete Robot since it has all the I Robot stories anyway and more.

>>11445701
>>11445651
Oh I already bought it but I felt silly reading it. I had purchased the Foundation trilogy as one book which is what introduced me to Asimov

>>11445537
It's gets worse as you go on. But the first book is great.

>Wolfe's wife, Rosemary, died on December 14, 2013, after a series of illnesses, including Alzheimer's disease. Wolfe said, "There was a time when she did not remember my name or that we were married, but she still remembered that she loved me."

>>11444415
Only read a fire upon the deep. It was bad.

>>11446323
For you

>>11445743
I mean is there actually any series that doesn't get worse over time?

>>11444750
I never asked for this.

>>11444153
I haven't read the book but I went through four episodes of the TV show. It was rather bad and for all the reasons you listed.

>>11444153
I finished the third book just a few days ago.

The books weren't so bad that I would call it wasted time, but I can't really recommend them.

For me the first book, and especially the worldbuilding is overshadowed by teenage angst, relationship drama and a simply not likeable main character.
(This shit does get somewhat better in the other books though.)

Also the whole pacing felt off and everything what happens isn't really connected at all. The characters barely have a plan or a clue about whats going on and sometimes it doesn't even get fully revealed in the end.

And the the books are full of minor but still weirdly annoying things.
Like it how often he specifically points out that magic is only for the super smart. ivory leage of ivory leage. (I actually lold irl as I read he graduaded harvard and stanford).
But then at some points the whole mathematical and rational approach gets suddenly thrown out of the window or is simply inconsistent.
Or that every fucking character is basically an alcoholic and suffering from some kind of depression, neurotic ticks and so on.

On the plus side the world building is somewhat nice and the magic system is overall at least interesting, even despite the inconsistencies.

>>11441519
It's nice to see Tim Powers getting some attention here. Last Call, his Tarot-based gambling/Vegas fantasy, is one of my favorite books.

>>11444026
Lord Foul's Bane has whining about being in a fantasy world.

>>11435996
>Jules Verne
The slow pace of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea made it tough to get into. Things got better once they got aboard the submarine but it's still an old novel with about viewing nature and lots of discussions.

Guys I'm going to write a GRI urban fantasy story except the gimmick is that pokemonlike creatures controlled by people fucked everything up.

>>11447271
by pokemonlike creatures do you mean Americans and by people do you mean Jews?

>>11444026
maybe the Eden series by Janelle Stalder. It is YA though

>>11442310
It really isn't, and this coming from someone who put up with all his other shit. He is really a mediocre author, but that takes the cake.

>>11444328
are you the author ~__~

>>11445131
audio books lol

>>11445621
nothing wrong with violence

>>11443593
>Also suns are all different in size/output
And the habitable zone of each __star__ varies with power output to account for that. But having other factors influence the chance of life outside the habitable zone does not change the chance of life inside it, that remains the anecdotal 1 in 3.

https://amzn.com/B004G60EHS

Dan Simmons's Hyperion for $2, for the Kindle.

>>11447499
free on libgen nigga

>>11447514
wow support the aweders bro

ocfag here. You know how on a cold day you can see your breath because you're warm and the air around you isn't?

Well I want to illustrate that my cyromancer gets physically colder when using her magic. To that end, does it make sense for her breath to condensate if she's COLD but everything else is warm or room temperature?

pls

alright /sffg/, cant decide what to read next
>wheel of time
>name of the wind
>chronicles of the black company
these are basically on the top of my to read list but theres also song for arbonne, watership down and assassin's apprentice.

>>11447811
yea plus condensation like crazy
into icicles & ice

>>11447811
If the environment around her is warm and wet, the vapor will condense into fog around her coldness, whether her breath or her person

>>11447811
Depends on enviro. Normally your warm moist breath get's cooled below its dew point and condensates. Her breath would already be cold. There would need to be sufficient moisture in the air for her breath to reduce it below dew point. The effect would probably look different too.

>>11447844
air coming out of you are mouth is going to be quite moist

>>11447820
Even though WoT loses its focus and momentum midway through, it's still trying to tell a continuous story. Black Company is less ambitious but more dependable and can be comfortably interleaved with other books while working your way through the collection. Haven't read Name of the Wind because the author seems so repulsive.

>>11447820
drop name of the wind from your reading list

>>11447844
>>11447847
>>11447833
>>11447829

Thanks guys. Based off this, Ill make sure to make sure the condensation varies based off of environment and of course magic use.

>in every smut book the guy kisses the girl on the lip just after shes sucked his dick

Pretty gay t b h

>>11447927

>>11446457
Yes

>>11447933
G-d tier cover.

>>11447927
Every guy wants to suck his own dick so you kiss girl after she suck you to get indirect autofellatio. Is big man secret do not tell woman.

>>11447933
That's just Tad Williams in general, since he starts at such a slow burn and takes forever to get the plot rolling. He's gotten better with practice, but that series was so hard for me to get into. Once it started moving along though I flew throughit.

>>11447933
the love interest was fucking awful

>>11447927
It's not gay, faggot, you can't be gay for yourself
Sucking your own dick isn't gay

>>11448058
Masturbating is gay. Think about it.

>>11448077
do you lick your fingers and eat your own semen you fgt
Thats literally what you are doing when you kiss girls

In a future border town formed between Israeli Tel Aviv and Arab Jaffa, cyborg ex-soldiers deliver illicit drugs for psychic vampires, and robot priests give sermons and conduct circumcisions. The Chong family struggles to save patriarch Vlad, lost in the inescapable memory stream they all share, thanks to his father’s hack of the Conversation, the collective unconscious. New children, born from back-alley genetic engineering, begin to experience actual and virtual reality simultaneously. Family and faith bring them all back and sustain them.

>>11448116
Hnnn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaiOnL33kw

I want to figure out a story to write this magical item into

>Its a literal coat of arms, or more specifically a mantle made hundreds of preserved and reanimated human arms
>the arms are taken from trained soldiers, master craftsmen, skilled surgeons, warrior monks, and powerful magi, and all of them can perform their skills through sheer reflex
>In addition, as zombie arms they don't have the protective strength inhibitions of living men, and can operate even if the owner isn't wearing them
>the necromancer who owns it is invincible while wearing it, and removes it only to bathe
>to destroy it, one must either shatter the enchanted clasp or cut the rune-inscribed tag. I haven't decided yet
>Also, I'm thinking that for added weirdness, one of the pairs of arms belonged to the necromancer's mother, whose hand he holds while wearing it for courage

>>11443804
Book was shit. Book ended with a lot of the main questions brought up still unresolved. Dropped the series there.

>>11444153
>redshit
You know this book was published 2009? Before redshit became a normie mainstream with ama?

Say I wanted to give one of these trashy litrpg/harem memes a shot, which one is the best?

>>11448236
Super Sales / Wild Wastes / Daniel Black
Choose your poison.

>>11448236
sword art online

“I’m on the verge of a breakthrough…”

When Qin Lie realized this, he clenched his teeth and randomly chose a direction. Then, he drove the crystalline war chariot straight into a dense forest.

“Boom!”

The crystalline war chariot crashed heavily into the ground and broke several ancient trees so wide that it would take several people holding hands to hug around its trunk.

>>11448328
Tree hugger vegans need death.

Is there a general to talk about audiobooks? Being stuck in /sffg/ with all the drooling monotaskers is tedious.

“Boom!” All of Heaven Spirit turned dark. It wasn’t because something was swallowing the sunlight but rather the sun itself was being blotted out.

Everyone’s mouth was wide opened and they couldn’t close it at all. Their soul left their body completely. Both ants and invincible existences were pissing in their pants.

After a long time, one master finally murmured: “What, what is that thing!?”

“That’s… the Divine Tree Ridge!” Another master answered him after taking a deep breath.

An incredible event has happened. The ridge that was lying across Godhalt was now towering above the continent.

In the past, when looking down from above, the ridge spanning for endless miles looked like a tree that has fallen on Godhalt. At this moment, it looked like a dried tree standing on top of Godhalt. Meanwhile, the Undying Gate was located right at the base and roots of this tree.

What used to be mountain ranges before were now branches on top of this tree. Just think about it, these awesome and behemoth spectacles were mere branches. Just how shocking was this?

Despite the majority of the tree being barren, it still covered more than half of Heaven Spirit.

“What the hell…” Cultivators stared at the sky in a daze.

Just imagine long and thick branches from Godhalt crossing through the large oceans. The size of this tree was beyond measure.

“Then, then the legend is true? The Divine Tree Ridge is a giant tree that fell on Godhalt. A real monster of an existence!” Even the masters were astounded and became pale with fright.

No one believed this legend because they weren’t willing to believe that there was such a large tree in this world.

“Boom!” The entire world seemed to have exploded with this deafening blast.

At this moment, the dead tree suddenly exuded a boundless green expanse like an ocean spewing out!

>>11448403
Truly a formidable tree

Definately worth testing the finest destructive abilities on

>>11448403
I'm getting tired of chinese web novels, they rely too much on that one magical item, powerups and ungodly luck for everything. I want to read about some real struggle rather than an endless line of token enemies to power up the MC.

Why are you not reading the ultimate chink fantasy ?

>>11448426
I try to avoid anything chink made in my life.

>>11448452
Says while posting in a chink book-munching forum

>>11448426
It's on my to-read list. I have a stack of old SF to work through first.

>>11448452
Even music?
https://youtu.be/lBJQUfKvJcM

>>11448195
>book ended with questions
>part of a trilogy
>third book not released yet
>wtf why are there unanswered questions
is this really the type of person that inhabits this thread? fucking christ

>>11448473
https://youtu.be/pVEqDXPbYbw

>>11448350
I helped start sffg and read nothing but audiobooks

>>11448799
>audiobook
>read

>>11448476
Just because you like shit and have no tastes, means that others are the same. That was just a simplified version of the rant I wrote when I finished that book.

>>11448802
I'm sure I "read" more books than you this year, and can discuss them with you. How many books did you read? And how many tasks were left undone around your house while you did it?

>>11448813
Not him, but I can't get into audiobooks because of how different the experience is.
Try listening to the first chapter of a book, then reading that chapter about an hour later. It's a totally different feeling and you're more likely to reflect and see things in your own way, rather than when it's read to you.
Also, I've read 17 books this year (18 if you count books of short stories) and don't think that having "duties around the house" will ever stop me from feeling the necessity to solely focus on reading. If I have shit to do, I'll do it. Then I read. Even if that means not being able to read at all for a handful of days.

I recently read Frankenstein. It was actually really incredible. I was surprised how much I empathised with the monster. I got really fucking anxious when he was planning to introduce himself to the cottagers and actually felt kind of heartbroken when it didn't go well.

Just starting now on Dune. What am I getting myself into? How deep does the Dune hole go?

I finished Terminal World. I think it's the worst Reynolds book I've read so far, or rather, the only one I wasn't very pleased with. Meh.

>>11448920
Apart from ending what's wrong with it?

Also i think his worst work is chasm city and the best is pushing ice.

>>11448945
The pacing and the autistic main character are probably my biggest concerns. It just took so GODDAMN LONG to know anything and for anything to happen.

>>11444153
The first book is good because it's actually about the reality of childish fantasies. It should've been a standalone book ending without a cliffhanger into sequel.

Lev did an article years back saying how new authors are being pushed towards genre fiction because of the potential for sequels, etc. No doubt in my mind that was the case with these books.

>>11448236
Waldo Rabbit
Heartgem Homestead
Spellscribed
Daniel Black

These are the only ones I can truly recommend.

Holy hell, this one was bad.

Forewarned.

>>11448813
i got servants

>>11449055
Don't talk about your mom like that.

>>11449059
its plural

>>11447159
>Lord Foul's Bane
A lot of 1 star reviews because of a rape scene lol

if only sanderson books are all this good
i just finished reading this, one of my first fantasy books ive actually finished

>>11442151
Anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImuW68Mrsvg

>>11447999
don't try this guy then

>>11449215
Yes.

The Ginger arabs in wheel of time are really pissing me off with how perfect they are.

Xianxia is so bad I felt I was about to spurt blood. I thought I was going to go insane!
"The Heck!"
To read Xianxia for three days straight in my closed room. I must be tired of living! I thought that sci-fi was the height of literature, but to think that there was an entire realm of literature called 'Xianxia' above it! My jaw dropped to the ground and I began to feel faint!

Anyone here read the Redwall books?

>>11447368
It's a quote from Harry Seldon after he solves the 2nd or 3rd crisis without lifting a finger by pitting two factions against each other and tricking one of them into needing a resource his planet has plenty of, something like that, i haven't read it in a while.

>>11447499
I hear nothing but praise for Hyperion. I may give it an (unironic) chance.

>>11448426
after RoTK sure thing anon

>>11448891
Dune sucks, read Dracula instead if you liked Frankenstein
T. never read dune

>>11449615
which one do you read

>>11449606
Perfect as in spankable?

>>11449642
>Redwall
I liked them when I was a kid
Dunno if they'd hold up

>>11449615
Can't expect anything but the equivalent of fast food trash when you read xianxia.
And I still love it more than anything else.

>>11449650
Library of Heaven's Path upto ch474

>>11449698
I know what you mean. The only xianxia story I've actually finished is https://www.starvearchive.com/2018/03/03/the-dao-of-xuanhuan-novels/

>>11449699
good taste anon

>>11449713
you should read desolate era and coiling dragon
both are finished

>>11449699
You picked one of the most repetitive novels possible.
And I say that as someone who loves it, and I've read all the chapters that are out.
But I really don't recommend reading more than say 50-80 chapters at once because you will grow to hate both it and xianxia if you do.

>>11449728
desolation era is like
*medidates for a trillion years on the dao*

>>11449664
I liked the original, i read half of Legend of Luke a few times but just ended up putting it down both times, and MOssflower same thing. As a kid.
thanks for the insight, yeah it's probably a YA fiction

>>11447933
>The fantasy equivalent of War and Peace

>>11449742
Too late; I'm already 54% of the way through after reading it for three days straight. So many "the heck!"s and "almost spurted bloods" and "felt he was going insane". I didn't even realize that the setting wasn't just low-level (no immortals or whatever) and that after reading almost five hundred chapters the main character just hasn't even heard of the realm of immortals yet until a few tens of chapters ago. He'll probably break into the immortal realm somewhere after Transcendant Mortal 9-dan or whatever

>>11449019
Spellscribed seems out of place

>>11449804
all these authors start giving up after the mortal part anyways
So despite the fact that it is supposed to be taking exponentially more time/money/effort to advance, they skip through whole realms in a chapter...

If anything its the BEGINNING that they should be skipping !

>>11449837
I can hardly believe that even though I've read some Xianxia before, I actually fell for the trick and thought that Zhizun realm was actually the peak of this setting and meant something. Too naive! I should have known that it wasn't anything much at all. Regardless, do you have any other recommendations for me?

>>11449853
Theres actually not that many translated long xianxia stories I guess
I've read Desolation Era, Battle through the Heavens, Sovereign of the Three Realms, and Spirit Realm

>>11449853
not him but emperors domination are good
nothing like skipping realm after mort part and stuff

also desolate era and coiling dragon

>>11449853
if you hate yourself try reading martial god asura
2.8k chap ++

>>11448891
The fist book is really great. I just finished the 4th book a couple of days ago and they change style after the first book but I still enjoy them quite a lot. Be prepared for a lot of foreshadowing and a bit of fantasy.

>>11449606
Aiel culture is actually pretty fucked which is why they have a massive civil war and they overall need a lot of reworking to prevent them from utterly destroying themselves in the future.

But WoT is so fucking long that you have a good few books of them being superior before it gets into this.

Also, they're all oathbreakers and failures.

>>11449970
I really hope they get the same treatment that Stannis gave the Wildlings, the aiel are so retardly strong I think Jordan was compensating for Vietnam.

How come fantasy novels are filled with stories of people gaining great power from their ancestry/blood lines, but the groups who wish to preserve those bloodlines are always the villains

>>11450124
what are you reading?

>>11450124
Because they like the aesthetics of aristocracy but hate the real thing and its exclusive nature.

>>11446457
The "Miles Vorkosigan" series by Lois McMaster-Bujold. One of the last books, "Captain Vorpatril's Alliance" is one of the best books in the series. Maybe the best book.

>>11449980
There's a few factions with ridiculous military power but the Aiel are the first that get expanded upon. They stick out a little less once you get on, but again WoT is so fucking long. I actually don't dislike the series, but it is a massive slog and every part of romance is extraneous and shit.

>>11447999
>That's just Tad Williams in general
Dont ever start the Shadowmarch series then. I take pride in finishing almost every book I start (silly as it is) but damn that series was like torture. Actually it wouldnt have been so bad without all those fucking stories about the gods, but those were really hard to bear.

>>11448459
Why defend the soulless insect people?

>>11448473
Especially music.

>>11450184
>he says, while posting a character from an utterly souless show

>>11450190

>>11449642
>Anyone here read the Redwall books?
Finished the first volume a few weeks ago, but Ididnt find it very good. The characters werent very interesting or believable, except for the giant rat.

>>11450204
You do realize posting an image from the latest braindead kyoani shitshow doesn't help you here?

>>11450155
And the protag always wants to marry for "love" rather than providing his children with a proper pure bloodline

>>11450210
Pussy game just too strong anon.

>>11450124

>>11450209

What did he mean by this?

>>11450124
sounds like you're just reading shitty works. I recommend designing a time machine so you can read my novel today

>>11450259
hatred is a survival strategy

>>11450261
Whatever happened to that guy?
Last I heard he was living out of his car and I am scared to look him up in case his life took a turn for the worse.

>>11450259
The buildup to GRI will be gradual.

>>11450259
>Joe Abercrombie
>"pacing"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!

>>11450280
>Whatever happened to that guy? Last I heard he was living out of his car and I am scared to look him up in case his life took a turn for the worse.

He's still making regular content, has over a million YouTube subscribers, and is making several thousand a month from Patreon donations.

>>11449019
>Waldo Rabbit
>Daniel Black
Are the only good ones.

>>11450259
>>11450294
there's literally nothing wrong with his pacing you adhds

All I want is a xianxia where the male protagonist goes around fucking _male young masters and getting them addicted to his chad cock.
Imagine all the problems that could be resolved through cock instead of killing.
Why is it so hard to find a standard fun fantasy novel but instead of the MC fucking random chicks he fucks his _male best friend instead?

>haha what if instead of the protag being normal, instead he's a gay !

>>11450399
Look, you got a problem?
Women are always useless in these novels, might as well cut all that useless fluff out and put in good fluff instead.

>>11449195
I liked the worldbuilding and characters but damn that asspull at the end was hard to stomach.

>>11450389
There's pacing, then there's plodding, then there's stasis, then there's Abercrombie.

>>11449186
The rape scene is part of it but happens at the beginning. One you get past that, the main character is a whiny ass for the rest of the book and sequels. He was too annoying to spend time on so I dropped it after book 1

>>11442076
really liked altered carbon netflix series, just got the books on my backlog on my kindle are they good?

>>11450462
I've heard they're good, but lots of details were changed for TV. For example it's way rarer for a stack to get blown to bits than it is on TV. I also heard that that revolutionary (Quincrest?) had a different ideology in the books.

>>11450526
alright I'll try to disconnect the show from the books, it's mostly the world I'm interested in anyway

is there any good first contact scifi?
maybe something about humanities first voyage outside of our own solar system or i dunno someone discovering earth. not necessary in a warlike scenario or space opera. i enjoy stories that have a small number of povs, preferably only the mcs pov.

>>11450550
Blindsight

>>11450553
didnt like it.

>>11450550
Titan by John Varley

>>11450569
sounds good keep em coming.

>>11449642
its a great kid's book. it has too many cliches and fantasy tropes to hold up now though.

Just went to B&N for the first time in a few years. There isn't one near me, so I just buy them on the site.
I was really surprised to see all the shitty books talked about here right on the shelf, sometimes prominently featured with a "Staff pick" sign beside them.
By shitty books, I mean the actual shitty ones, like The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms and Throne of Glass. I couldn't even find anything that I was thinking of getting, so I'll just end up buying them online again.

But I couldn't help feel disappointed.
Do you buy your sff? If so, do you order them?

>>11450558
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to comprehend space vampires (Nihilism Edition)

>>11450668
it was just bad in my opinion. i don't dislike ridiculous premises, but blindsight was just flat out bad.

>>11450686
The nerve of some people.

>>11450686
Would you mind elaborating a bit on what you found so reproachable?

>people itt feels its okay to shit on what you like and call it trash
>as soon as you shit on what they like they try to prove you wrong and convince you to read their shit philosophy books

>>11450803
Know your place pleb.

>>11450558
Pretty sure you're not allowed to dislike fucking blindsight dude

>>11450803
All the philosophy books I have been told to read were like badly writen self published fiction that the philosophy part is how you fill the gaps on the bad writing.
>but the stare of mind of the author blah blah blah
You can do the same analyse on any book.

I have read the Iain M Banks novels when I was very young, but I want to get into another space opera (that isn't as cucked as the Culture series). I tried Reynolds Revelation Space series but I gave up halfway through the second book. What are the best modern space operas worth checking out today? It can be hard or soft.

>>11450550
I really enjoyed anathem desu

Why does a dungeon book have cultivation? wtf is this some chink novel?

>>11450686
I can't believe that my business with my new job taking over from my previous full-time Blindsight shilling has let this vapid cunt get away with this horrific anti-shilling.

Peter Watts is one of the best modern sci-fi authors and one of the best hard sci-fi authors on Earth. Suck my easy 6-inch when erect dick you utterly vile spastic if I ever meet you in real life and you confirm it's you I'll fucking curbstomp you in the name of our lord of savour Peter

>>11450162
I'm reading through the series right now and I have to agree. The lowpoints in the series like Cetaganda and Cryoburn are still decent themselves, just not totally great. I've just started the last book and I think I would say that overall it's one of the best modern space opera series, if not the top.

>>11451094
he's also very good at violently attacking border patrol agents with his fists.

>>11451094
w-what is he doing with that vacuum cleaner...

>>11451116
they do coke together to write shitty novels that get shilled here

Should I start Eriksen or Sanderfag first?

I want a scifi book where characters randomly go off on pretentious monologues about the human condition like in Mr.Robot.

>>11449873
I'v erad up to like 1700
MGA starts out pretty decent but it gets really really bad towards where I stopped. The MC goes from the typical "I have no morals at all and only care about myself" chink (he literally rapes some female enemies just to fuck with them) to saving women from getting beat up from people they steal from( if anyone stole from him hed certainly kill them). Of course, these women turn out to be princesses or whatever and help him. Fuck that tbqh.

>>11449569
Fuck. I just want to read a sci fi novel with decent fucking characters. They don't even have to be great, just good is enough.

>>11451340
Don't forget the septic tank bit. But I agree the series got way too tedious.

The one that got me into xianxia was Renegade Immortal/xian ni and it's still my favourite. It has been slow as shit to update but the current translator picked up the speed a lot and there are at least 900 chapters out.

>>11451412
septic tank<<<<<public raping by spirit force apes

>>11451415
I'm not sure I got that far actually. I probably quit not long after he went through some sort of portal to where he thought his homeland was.

>>11451407
>a sci fi novel with decent fucking characters

Read the Vorkosigan books.

>>11451264
Any Robert J Sawyer book

>>11450587
Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang is possibly my favorite short story and it's about alien contact. You might have seen the movie with Amy adams

>>11450642
>staff picks at Barnes & Noble
Well that’s part of your problem right there. What I read of 100,000 kingdoms was ok but partway through I found something else more interesting to move onto.

I usually buy books at my local indie bookstore which is a pretty big one. I’ve also bought books from Powells.com. I don’t give book money to amazon even tho I have prime because they already get lots of my other money and I’d rather keep my cool local bookstore around. I did get one bad fantasy recc from one of the staff but no place is going to be perfect.

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>>11450207
Cluny the Scourge!

>>11449980
The Seanchan work out a good strategy to fight them and wreck their shit at Malden like Stannis did to the Wildlings.

>>11450394
>>11450416
degenerate get out and kys

>>11450436
i kinda expected that kind of ending

>>11450642
usually go through thriftbooks or amazon. i try not to use amazon though. barnes and noble rarely has anything im looking for.