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Ok /lit, let me explain why I'd recommend this book to everyone: Plato is stupid.

Seriously.

And it's important that you all understand that Western society is based on the fallacy-ridden ramblings of an idiot. Read this, understand that he is not joking, and understand that Plato is well and truly fucked in the head.

Every single one of his works goes like this:

SOCRATES: "Hello, I will now prove this theory!"
STRAWMAN: "Surely you are wrong!"
SOCRATES: "Nonsense. Listen, Strawman: can we agree to the following wildly presumptive statement that is at the core of my argument?" {Insert wildly presumptive statement here— this time, it's "There is such a thing as Perfect Justice" and "There is such a thing as Perfect Beauty", among others.}
STRAWMAN: "Yes, of course, that is obvious."
SOCRATES: "Good! Now that we have conveniently skipped over all of the logically-necessary debate, because my off-the-wall crazy ideas surely wouldn't stand up to any real scrutiny, let me tell you an intolerably long hypothetical story."
{Insert intolerably long hypothetical story.}
STRAWMAN: "My God, Socrates! You have completely won me over! That is brilliant! Your woefully simplistic theories should become the basis for future Western civilization! That would be great!"
SOCRATES: "Ha ha! My simple rhetorical device has duped them all! I will now go celebrate by drinking hemlock and scoring a cameo in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure!"

>The moral of the story is: Plato is stupid.

>> No.11417976

>>11417962
Strauss thought it was a satire and im inclined to agree

>> No.11417983
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>>11417962
Plato could have beaten you up

>> No.11418010

It's actually hilarious.
>Yes so it is
>Good
>Indeed
>Yes
>Without a doubt
Well looks like I was right again t. Plato

>> No.11418014

>>11417976
In what way?

>> No.11418028

>>11417962
Republics are gay the only good greek philosopher was Diogenes.

>> No.11418076

>>11417962
Lame bait.
>>11417976
Imagine being this stupid.

>> No.11418081

>>11417962
YOU'RE

>> No.11418102

>>11418076
Imagine arguing for your standpoint

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>>11418076

>Bait

>> No.11418196

>>11418102
Imagine not only lacking any resemblance of common sense, but also ignoring all the primary sources (especially Aristotle) and the entirety of scholarly tradition and having the audacity to say:
>argue for your standpoint
Kek

>> No.11418246

>>11418196
>implying I've done anything
That was my first post m8

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>>11417983
>Plato is a champion of the heterosexual

>> No.11418324

>>11418076
>>11418014
Read Strauss
https://wslamp70.s3.amazonaws.com/leostrauss/s3fs-public/Plato%27s%20Republic%201957.pdf

>> No.11418334

>>11418196
Yeah my one line post sure did reveal all that
Yikes you guys are faggots

>> No.11418360

>>11417983
"Buttfucking is fine in moderation with the relative mean"
t. Aristotle

>> No.11418496

>>11418360
Proof that Aristotle > Plato

>> No.11418502

>>11417962
flow my tears

>> No.11418518

>>11417962
Didn't you just create a strawman of Plato and used a hypothetical story to dismiss him as fraud?