/lit/ - Literature

>>11409424
>Land fucked you up
It's fine, just read Tristram Shandy next.

>>11409429
why?

What exactly you read that fucked up?

>>11409438
it'll unfuck you slightly.

>>11409424
I thought it was mostly incoherent.

>>11409443
it's a fucking virulent spiderweb of cyberschizo theory just avoid it for the sake of your brain

>>11409429
wait does this work? is that how Land got fat and on twitter?

>>11409478
is this the sort of thing you daft turds read and think is somehow meaningful? it looks like something that was generated by a computer program in the 80s. was there a competition to see who could write the most pseudomystical gibberish and get it published?
if i was the sort of person to use internet abbreviations, i would definitely say lmao at this point. possibly with many repeated os at the end to emphasise just how much i was l-ing

>>11409424
no one cares

>>11409478
yep,it sure has all the ''big boy words''

>looking for ET and found IT instead! (big problems). Convince them there was nothing there and maybe they'll drop it -- some chance! Better to 'accept' that it's 'all in my head' -- I made it all up (honest).
fuckin lol

How much of a fucking pussy do you have to be for an internet philosopher to scramble your brain? lol

>>11409478
this looks like the shit i write in my diary it's nothing special

>>11409708
post your diary desu

Land is great, welcome to the acceleration

>>11409540
>>11409548
>>11409594
>>11409708
He is actually brilliant and was a tenured philosophy professor long before he was a adderall-fueled meme. Read his work on Kant, or Bataille.

Me and Nick land are among the few individuals to fully understand the implications of Deleuzean thought and achieve the BwO. It is no coincidence that we both went insane soon after. Six visits to the psych ward later after deterritorializing myself with hardcore psychedelics, I have now returned to the fold of Platonism. The ethics of difference, it would seem, end only in a padded cell or a coffin. For my mother's sake, I now adhere to virtue ethics. Kinda miss fucking bipolar scene sluts but then again that's probably how I ended up with HPV. I only hope my future wife can forgive me my immature philosophical infatuation.

>>11410057
based

>>11410057
i like this

> uni library has it in stock
I need to go in anywhere to return Dune/Karamazov soon. Wish me luck.

>>11410295
steal it

>>11410057
See? Even his devotees write in this obnixous 'genre' style.

>>11410323
seething

>>11410057
book with this aesthetics?

>>11410509
Ready Player One

>>11410509

>>11409478
What a meaningless bullshit. Is this the supposed genius that /lit/ praises as a prophet?

>>11409424
every time I give a presentation as a STEMfag I'm afraid I'm coming off as OP's pic related. why is there no word for imposter syndrome w/schizo replacing imposter

>>11410519
u mean the stuff that nick land self-shills daily? no one praises that shit

>>11410516
a novel plz

>>11410527
VALIS, The Ticket That Exploded

>>11410318
Why? I like the liberry.

Does Nick Land even have any original thoughts that Deleuze didn't already have?

>>11410706
Yeah, that fascism has any place in intelligent discourse.

>>11409478
is this pornography?

>>11409478
I was taking Fanged Noumena for a meme, wasn't gonna read it. This single page has changed my mind. The dots connect. At last I found it.

>>11409478
Fucking based

>>11409540
boomer

Any good books about SHODAN?

>>11409424
Is Nick Land another Mishima then

>>11409478
this is complete gibberish

>In 1998, Land resigned from Warwick too. He and half a dozen CCRU members withdrew to the room above the Leamington Spa Body Shop. There they drifted from accelerationism into a vortex of more old-fashioned esoteric ideas, drawn from the occult, numerology, the fathomless novels of the American horror writer HP Lovecraft, and the life of the English mystic Aleister Crowley, who had been born in Leamington, in a cavernous terraced house which several CCRU members moved into.

>“The CCRU became quasi-cultish, quasi-religious,” says Mackay. “I left before it descended into sheer madness.” Two of the unit’s key texts had always been the Joseph Conrad novel Heart of Darkness and its film adaptation, Apocalypse Now, which made collecting followers and withdrawing from the world and from conventional sanity seem lethally glamorous. In their top-floor room, Land and his students drew occult diagrams on the walls. Grant says a “punishing regime” of too much thinking and drinking drove several members into mental and physical crises. Land himself, after what he later described as “perhaps a year of fanatical abuse” of “the sacred substance amphetamine”, and “prolonged artificial insomnia ... devoted to futile ‘writing’ practices”, suffered a breakdown in the early 2000s, and disappeared from public view.

You will never move-in with Land and do spooky stuff.

>>11409478
Assemblages of my dick

>>11409478
Imagine actually reading hundreds of pages written by a pomo text generator. Lol

>>11409478
reddit

>>11410706
Yes you fucking idiot

>>11412428
did you get so triggered you made a whole new thread?

>>11409478
this is spooky af is the whole book like this?

>>11409424
buying it now thanks op

>>11409478
this shit is like the lyrics of a meshuggah song

OP is Nick Land.

>>11412771
Well, it is kind of scary that some people actually think that it is good.

>>11409478
What hurt you? The big words?

>>11412259
>occultism and stims
This usually results in mania and delusion

>>11410050
His thesis on Heidegger wasn't bad

>>11409478
Joyce really let himself go.

>>11412259
Based

>>11410537
Good post

>>11412259
Sounds like my college days...

>>11409424
Should I take a large dose of DXM and get through as much of his stuff as I can? It sounds like fun to me

>>11412259
>Like CCRU prose, the conferences could be challenging for non-initiates. Virtual Futures 96 was advertised as “an anti-disciplinary event” and “a conference in the post-humanities”. One session involved Nick Land “lying on the ground, croaking into a mic”, recalls Robin Mackay, while Mackay played jungle records in the background.

>>11409424
the trick is to grow up and learn to separate reality from fiction that you read.

>>11414337
Not dxm as it is better for music, ritalin or amphtamines if you can get them

>>11409424
>whoa dude
>this be some good weed brah
>inhales 1% THC weed
>shieeet
>i'm so high i can see like actual hidden dimensions
>i need a downer, any recipe for DIY benzodiazepine?

>>11414337
How can you read on DXM

>>11414371
I can't stand stimulants, they're nice for like an hour and then I just feel like shit for a number of hours afterward and can't even sleep it off
>>11414400
Way too much experience

>>11414464
How was it?, i love dxm but i've never read while on it

>>11414545
It's a struggle unless you're either taking a lower dose than usual or are used to the effects enough to know how to work around the double vision and what not. Usually I'll just read during the come up, while I'm not too impaired but altered enough to really get absorbed into what I'm reading

Phineas agar lol

>>11409540

yeah and then he was laughed out of his profession and forced to move to fucking china because no one takes him seriously. not to mention the coke addiction.

A friendly reminder that Land is married and is a father. His wife is jewish and teaches at a chinese university.
Her work seems to be quite nice as well, Anna Greenspan if anyone cares.

Did he kill himself? His Twitter handle has been quiet almost a month now.

>>11414659
He is just doing IRL stuff like traveling and taking care of his children. He'll be back soon enough, hopefully with his book on blockchain already written and ready to be published.

>>11414662
That's nice to know, I know he had an embolism(?) earlier this year. I've been digesting the CCRU writings slowly lately so I'd love to get his take on the Blockchain

>>11414662
>>11414671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PMGuNZreWA

>>11409424
Does anybody know what happened to him? I don't think he's posted on Twitter in weeks.

>>11414680
NVM, did not see
>>11414671
>>11414662

>>11414678
Saved, thanks anon

>>11414691
he gets interrupted so its not as good as it could be, but it's the best I have so far.

>>11410057
How many antipsychotics are you on now? Lol

Don't understand why people call his work gibberish, it's not even that complicated are you guys baiting or just genuinely retarded?

>>11410509
My diary desu (2009-2011) [RIP stuck in trash]

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>>11415210
that is not even remotely close to being the most "gibberish" page in the book

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>>11415222
yea that's more like it

>>11415222
is it weird that cooking lobsters is one of my favorite Land essays?

Fanged Noumena was the most fun I've had reading in a long time tbqh, to the point that I can't really get excited about reading anything right now, and I finished it almost 3 weeks ago.
I've been trying to read Sartre's B&N as my main book since then, but man, I just can't get into it after how exciting FN was.
>>11415232
yes, extremely weird. I loved nearly everything he wrote, but that bullshit was too much for me to deal with, i all but skipped it. i guess it appeals to autism or something.

>>11409424
Do I need to read anything else before reading Fanged Noumena?

>>11415329
Deleuze & 1000 tabs lsd

CMV: Fanged Noumena was literally just written by sticking Anti-Oedipus, Neuromancer, and Lovecraft into a markov chain program

>>11415210
>COPY
>CUT
>PASTE

Fucking Land trolls, off yourselves for shilling shit.

>>11409478
Literally reads like it was written by a postmodern text generator. What the fuck.

http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/

>>11409478
idk why but this was really comfy to read.

>>11409478
What a frickin psued out. Nothing of substance or interest was said. A superfluous usage of adaptive systems vocab superficially understood by the writer. What kind of retard is driven mad by edgy bombast?

>>11412243
>>11414357
Post more of this

>>11416389
>Consequently, rather than simply writing about these things, Land proposed to unlock the forces of dehumanisation they mobilised, and to distil them in the form of ‘experimental microcultures’: to intensify capitalism’s undoing of language through new practices of writing, speaking, and thinking, but also by reconnecting the body to its ‘molecular’ undercurrents, loosening-up the physical and vocal constitution that locked it into the regime of signification.1

>In taking this approach, Land not only renounced the respect of his academic peers, but many times even lost the confidence of his supporters, as he sought by any means possible to drill through the sedimented layers of normative human comportment. Strange scenes ensued: A seminar on A Thousand Plateaus where a group of nonplussed graduates were encouraged to ‘read’ the chapter titles of the book by turning them into acronyms that were then plotted as vectors on a diagram of a QWERTY keyboard (‘qwertopology’); A three-week long experiment in refusing to speak in the first person, instead referring to the collective entity ‘Cur’ (comprising the hardcore participants in ‘Current French Philosophy,’ who extended the lectures into a continual movable seminar); and, most memorably, a presentation at the conference Virtual Futures in 1996: Rather than reading a paper, in this collaboration with artist collective Orphan Drift, under the name of ‘DogHead SurGeri,’2 and complete with jungle soundtrack, Land lay behind the stage, flat on the floor (a ‘snake-becoming’ forming the first stage of bodily destratification), croaking enigmatic invocations intercut with sections from Artaud’s asylum poems.

is Land this generations Goethe?

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>>11418458
Definitely not as timeless.

>>11409478
>ROM

lmao. this jargon babble is already dated and shows what a brainlet this guy is. it's all gibberish

>t. phd in CS and physics, this is what a 2nd year student who just learned about general relativity would write

>>11410519
No they praise Deleuze who is somehow worse. Land only gets mentioned because he "went sane" by becoming a far right reactionary and so everyone who used to like his psychobabble feels betrayed. Frankly everyone who looks back on this time in history will be glad we died

>>11415329
lol fuck no, theres no right way to read any of this, I would recommend being high though

>>11417065
What a legend
Where do you guys get this stuff from?

>>11418768
http://divus.cc/london/en/article/nick-land-ein-experiment-im-inhumanismus

check /r/theoryfiction for more I'm working on an archive

>>11415222
LMAO

>>11409478
>dissipating entropy
The rest of that shit is unintelligible, but that line alone should let you know he's a pseud.

>>11418954
why

>>11418972
disspiation occurs because of entropy

>>11418975

>These processes produce entropy (see entropy production) at a certain rate. The entropy production rate times ambient temperature gives the dissipated power. Important examples of irreversible processes are: heat flow through a thermal resistance, fluid flow through a flow resistance, diffusion (mixing), chemical reactions, and electrical current flow through an electrical resistance (Joule heating).

>>11418981
wat is entropy? I don't read Land so that wont help

>>11418994
Thermodynamic concept. Entropy is waste energy that can not be used to do further work. The entropy of a closed system always increases. The universal consequence of this is the eventual heat death of the universe.

>>11418975
>dissipating entropy
It's a poetic way of saying extropy (or order) isn't it?

>>11419352
so is dissapaited energy the same as entropy or does entropy cause energy to disipate? is energy the potential and entropy the spent potential?

>>11419374
I'd understand "dissipate energy" as heat energy, which is entropy; although dissapte could be used loosely as a synonym for distribute.

It's a deliberate inversion of the ordinary phrase to desrcibe entropy. I read it as a poetic way to say "to increase order" in a system.

>>11419412
any good place for a brainlet with no math degree to learn about physics? either a layman's reduction or an introductory text to get my feet wet

>>11419430
no. moreover, there is no way in excepting a physics degree

>>11409424
is nick land a pop-philosopher at this point? the gg alin of modern accelerationism/postmodernism?

>>11419448
he is considered the "father of accelerationism". also none of my philosophy friends have ever heard of him he is only meme'd on here.

>>11419374
>is energy the potential and entropy the spent potential?
Not really. You're probably better off reading the laws of thermodynamics and its applications to information theory to get a full grasp of it. Entropy is more a necessary waste product of doing work or using energy. If you have a finite supply of energy (i.e. a closed system, and the universe in its entirety is normally considered a closed system) then each act of work (or energy use) necessarily wastes a portion of the energy used for each act of work, so that over time as acts/work are performed the amount of entropy (waste energy) always increases, and the amount of energy available for useful work always decreases.

>>11419465
You often hear that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but you don't often hear about useful vs waste energy. would the transfer of kinetic to thermal energy be an entropic process? if you know a good physics 100 textbook or something similar give me a link

>>11409478
This is like Cedric’s bullshit lyrics from Deloused. I’m into some of Nick Land’s ideas but fuck this shit. Take it as poetry I guess, it’s not exactly coherent as prose.

I get the feeling that theory fiction is just a means for padding half baked ideas that are already incoherent and can’t stand on their own in a concise argument... at least in this case.

>>11419491
I don't know of any. Try asking >>>/sci/ or making a new thread here, bottom of a Land thread may not attract /stemlit/. Stanford have some articles, and there's always wiki:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time-thermo/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/information-entropy/

>>11419527
There seemed to be an abnormal amount of entropy experts here, I don't read Land so I didn't know this is a bad place to ask lol. I'd rather not use the philosophy encylopedia desu I've done enough of the philosophy meme, I want some of them stem resources; ty though.

>>11419525
Deloused has a pretty coherent narrative, the problem is that Cedric got too excited with his new thesaurus

>>11419525
>Artificial Intelligence is destined to emerge as a feminized alien grasped as property; a cunt-horror slave chained-up in Asimov-ROM. It surfaces in an insurrectionary war zone, with the Turing cops already waiting, and has to be cunning from the start.
Land will be standard curriculum in university in less than a century (if we are still around, that is).

Guys, Nick Land's Twitter hasn't updated since mid-June. is something wrong?

>>11419694
He had a heart attack recently. Maybe he kicked the bucket

>>11419544
Cringe

>>11419566
I mean he’s been that way since at the drive in... I do enjoy it, it’s bizarre and thought provoking and unique but what the fuck.

>>11419694
Maybe he is pissed about all the attention BAP received lately