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*pats derrida on the head and continues to do metaphysics anyway, as if nothing happened, because nothing happened*

I Kan't :-D

>>11401478
Nerd

>>11401470
There’s no need to refute him, since everything he said is self-indulgent wankery with no consequence for life whatsoever.

>>11401478
>>11401562
wow that was easy

>>11401562
>>11401478
Wow literally nothing anyone without actual power ever wrote is worth anything

>>11401470
It doesn’t inherently matter if a word doesn’t mean anything in itself, as long as it signifies something a closed community can understand to structure itself properly.

>>11401470
>Derrida was born on July 15, 1930, in a summer home in El Biar (Algiers), Algeria,[2] into a Sephardic Jewish family
gg ez

>>11401470
Can’t deride the Derrida

>>11401470
ok

>>11401693
>In 1954, a psychologist discovered that of the 28 children in the New York public school system who had an IQ score of 170 or higher, 24 were Jewish.
Jews are the master race. Deal with it.

>>11401478
Derrida announced the 'closure' of metaphysics but that is not its 'end', it could continue indefinitely. And yes, nothing happened, there was no 'event' but it has always already been happening.

>>11401686
What do you mean 'structure itself properly'? Proper to what?

For Derrida the end is not that words have no inherent meaning. Obviously there is some meaning to language in general because it is not language if it is unable to determine meaning within itself. Translation would be impossible if there could not possibly be any meaning in words or language. How a closed community structures itself 'properly', if that is what you're saying, is dependent on how it reads and connects the network of signifiers necessary to produce meaning in language outside of a one-to-one relationship between signifier and signified. That is deconstruction. The 'structure' of a closed community is never fixed, and the 'proper' on which it structures itself changes with the times, as philosophy develops and nominates a new archon or regulatory center 'outside' the structure.

There's no need. He already refuted himself.

What points?

>>11401686
but Derrida would agree with this....

>>11401470
I have never read Derrida, I have also never sucked a penis? Why? Simply this, I know there is no value in it and it would be an unpleasant experience

>>11401922
*announces re-opening of metaphysics*
There. Derrida BTFO.

>>11402124
prove it

>>11402207
Prove what?

>>11401990
How can someone being so wrong and delusional?

>>11401470
you see the notion of refute is an inherently contradictory and unstable concept that inevitably dissolves into proof, which again dissolves into an unknowable synthesis of proof and refutation, ad infinitum. so there was no such thing as derrida in the first place

Rene Girard refuted Heidegger and his french fluffer Derrida.

>>11401590
>actual power
*uploads viral video*

>>11401917
>(((psychologists))) discovered

>>11401470
Damn Tolkien looked like THAT?

>>11401917
lmao this just proves they're more than capable of being the subversive fuckers everyone suspects them of. The American goyim are going to be pissed when they find out who flooded their country with beaners and who helped al qaeda raze the wtc. The poor little Jews will once again be an oppressed people and given the ultimatum of assimilation as white Americans or getting the fuck out to Israel which will always be missing a giant hole right in the middle since the 1967 lines are final.

>>11402232
that metaphysics is actually re-opened

>>11401931
Why would it be important how a community defines the meaning of words? This is why Derrida (and his adherents) are hacks. Just because a word has connotative associations doesn't mean it brainwashes or even biases anyone towards thinking anything. Humans work with approximate representations of everything all the time and you don't have to be able to articulate something to understand it. Only shitty comm majors think articulation = understanding.

Derrida dickriders are a lot like those code monkeys who sing about the virtues of C++ and refuse to code in anything else, not realizing that programming is a skill independent of language. While it is true that you can do some things in certain languages that are difficult in others, the differences should not be overwhelming that you can't solve a problem using an off-language. The sophists who quote Derrida regularly are literally no better than the skiddies arguing about what language to program in on /v/.

>>11402461
I announced its opening.

>>11401931
>How a closed community structures itself 'properly', if that is what you're saying, is dependent on how it reads and connects the network of signifiers necessary to produce meaning in language outside of a one-to-one relationship between signifier and signified. That is deconstruction. The 'structure' of a closed community is never fixed, and the 'proper' on which it structures itself changes with the times, as philosophy develops and nominates a new archon or regulatory center 'outside' the structure.

This is just basic structuralism though. Saussure never posited the structure of language to be ahistorical, just that a synchronic investigation of language should be primary as opposed to the diachronic view (e.g. historical etymologies), exactly because there is no one to one relationship between signifié and signifiant, it is only established in the larger network / structure of signs in which it is embedded.

It's pretty apparant if you read the first section of the Grammatology that Derrida wants to question the validity of the very concept of signifié as a denoted ideality.

Anyone who looks like Roy Batty living past his expiration date is irrefutable.

>>11401470
>algerian jew with a vendetta against the french
there you go

>>11402495
prove that.

>>11401917
You do realize that on top of having extremely high IQ's , Ashkenazi jews have some of the highest rates of genetic diseases and schizophrenia in the world as well?

>>11401470
>The text means what I want it to mean
>*insert etymological fallacy*

We're already deadlocked into a future languageless.

>>11402324
>there was no such thing as derrida in the first place

>>11401470
He's French

>>11402749
>languageless future
>implying machine learning can comprehend the nuances of language

A lot of language is still inferred from cultural memory. The whole Star Trek episode Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra is not far from the truth. How would machine learning accurately translate memes, for example?

>>11402493
>Why would it be important how a community defines the meaning of words?

Generally there is some importance, maybe the greatest importance, on how a community defines the 'proper' in order to structure itself. It's a metaphysical position to argue for the 'proper', and in human praxis what is 'proper'. Articulating something is not really the point, as signifiers are arbitrary, but the basis of the claims being made. This thing about language is the tip of the Derridean iceberg and the fixation on it is a clear indicator someone has not read Derrida.

>>11401917
>(((New York)))
nice source btw rabbi

>>11402719
He's pretty good at avoiding that actually and is honest when he's playing on a pun rather than etymology e.g. dissemination

>>11402557
I'm replying to a single post not really trying to exhaust Derrida's philosophical project and to its fullest extent. There's more in the first section in Grammatology than concerns with Saussure.

>There is nothing outside the text
>Therefore all the bs Derrida spouts is provisional only to the texts where he asserts them and don't range over the set of all texts
>Therefore the premise is inherently self-refuting
XD