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>This restriction must be kept in mind. What I am about to say does not concern the ordinary man of our day. On the contrary, I have in mind the man who finds himself involved in today’s world, even at its most problematic and paroxysimal points; yet he does not belong inwardly to such a world, nor will he give in to it. He feels himself, in essence, as belonging to a different race from that of the overwhelming majority of his contemporaries.

What did he mean by this?

>> No.11367181

>>11367177
probably how to cast magic missle at his LARP session with mussolini

>> No.11367186

>>11367181
Would read

>> No.11367443

Too bad Evola offers no real solutions in his "Ride The Tiger"

>> No.11367464

"fuck normalfags I only write for robots"

>> No.11367477

>>11367464
>>11367177

Evola could be best described as "Anti-bourgeois"

I remember this story about him: he was a very avid mountaineer and once, after ascending some cliff to find some uncontaminated spot of nature, he found it had been a campsite and the people camping had left behind trash and jazz -records and he found it the most disturbing thing.

Imagine what he would think of the degeneracy of today

>> No.11367490

>>11367443
because there aren't any, hence riding the tiger

>> No.11367523

>>11367477
Why is it rightards' views always stem from some inane episode of overreacting to petty shit? Like when the Hitchens guy got scared by a painting.

>> No.11367550

>>11367477

you /pol/ midwits have turned "degeneracy" into a buzzword with no meaning and Evola into a meme, crawl back in the hole you came from please

>> No.11367564

>>113675
>Why is it rightards' views always stem
They don't. And that wasn' even an example of what you said.
>>11367550
Degeneracy means "decayed moral character". It's not a buzzword, nobody turned it into one, you just disagree that some things are degenerate, probably because you subscribe to some inane notion of consent morality.

>> No.11367576 [DELETED] 

Let us assume you are ascending a mountainside and upon arriving on the summit you find the spot covered in used condoms, BBC-porn movie dvds and graffitis sprayed all over the place

Would you still think to yourself "This is progress"

>> No.11367595
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>>11367477
>and jazz -records
OH NO, NOT THE JAZZ RECORDS, THE HORROR, THE HORROR

No wonder he attracts mainly dorks who talk and behave like Ignatius O'Reilly.

>> No.11367601

>>11367595
fuck jazz

>> No.11367602

>>11367595
Jazz is garbage. You can disagree with Evola on everything else but that's just true.

>> No.11367609

>>11367595
>Jazz is undeniably an aspect of the resurfacing of the elemental in the modern world, bringing the bourgeois epoch to its dissolution. Naturally, the young men and women who like to dance to jazz today do so simply "for fun" and are not concerned with this; yet the change exists, its reality unprejudiced by its lack of recognition, since its true meaning and possibilities could only be noted from the particular point of view employed by us in all of our analyses.

>Some have included jazz among the forms of compensation that today's man resorts to when faced with his practical, arid, and mechanical existence; jazz is supposed to provide him with raw contents of rhythm and elemental vitality. If there is any truth in this idea, we must consider the fact that to arrive at this, Western man did not create original forms, nor utilize elements of European folk music, which, for example in the rhythms of southeastern Europe (Romanian or Hungarian), has a fascination and an intensity comprising not only rhythm but also authentic dynamics. He instead looked for inspiration in the patrimony of the lower and more exotic races, the Negroes and mulattoes of the tropical and subtropical zones.

Evola must have been fun at parties

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>>11367609
>>11367595
>. One can deduce that modern man, especially North American man, has regressed to primitivism in choosing, assimilating, and developing a music of such primitive qualities as Negro music, which was even originally associated with dark forms of ecstasy.

>> No.11367637

>>11367564

I know that it is different on /pol/ but that is not how an argument works. Attacking personally an anonymous user of a cingalese knitting & cooking board is not going to do the work. The fact that I may or may not partake in degenarate activities does not in any way refute the fact that you did turn it into a buzzword.
As far as I agree with you that degeneracy exists and that some activities could be defined as such, the word has been mindlessly applied to a series of things Evola had no problem with. The idea of everything outside a monogamous relation as degenerate is something Evola would have never subscribed to, if you read the Metaphysics of Sex, and yet people from /pol/ come here and start spamming muh traditionalism and muh blond aryan wife in wheatfields as if that was all they got out of reading Ride the Tiger or Revolt Against the Modern World (assuming they did read any of that and not just a wikipedia summary).

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Alas...this is what we've come to..Kali Yuga, just as Evola foretold us...if only the public took the red pill...

Then they'd know that a traditional monarchy is the way to go...and all the women would pick a nice guy like me over those degenerate gym rats...then I could steer the new generation back to the path of our ancestors...

>> No.11367663

>>11367609
>>11367611
wow what an absolute faggot lmao

>> No.11367667

>>11367637
Yes, people of different ideas tend to use the same word in different ways.
It's still not a buzzword.

>> No.11367670

>>11367655
That's not even a decent strawman.
No traditionalist of any sort would say "if only the public..."

>> No.11367683

>>11367602
Absolutely shit taste. Never post here again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJRts1kwzKc

Also Evola is a dumbass Italian meatball fuck who probably descended from the Goths too fucking stupid to work an aqueduct

>> No.11367725

>>11367655
If you think gym rats are the opposite of autists you should go visit /fit/

>> No.11367775

>>11367725
"gym rat" is just an entitiy. It is the devil, the antagonist, in the neckbeard's mind

>> No.11367781

>>11367667

imagine being /pol/ and trying this hard to hide under the carpet the painful truth that you are just the mirror reflection of a meme liberal, only rightwing

>> No.11367784

Evola and Adorno would have been bff.

>> No.11367792

>>11367683
Jazz is shit

>> No.11367849

People who defend Jazz itt are the type like myself in highschool who were only exposed to the greats and have no idea what kind of pop culture drivel it was 90% of the time especially in Evola's day.

>> No.11367867

>>11367784
when i say 'i fuck you up' it doesnt mean we're going to be a loving couple, you niggerloving faggot

>> No.11368139

>>11367523
Personality, we have high levels of disgust sensitivity, so we like wholesome aesthetics.

>> No.11368771

>>11367443
The solution is to ride the tiger. He signed on with the fascists in the hopes that he could use their relative newness to encourage the return of tradition. That failed horribly, before the war even really began because they didn't care about tradition beyond its superficial modern element. After they were destroyed he looked out into the world and saw that the only forces at work in the west were unbridled bourgeois consumerism on one side and a union of rebellious peasants on the other. The dichotomy of the post war age was defined by severe spiritual sickness on either side, so he decided rightly that the only wise thing to do was cultivate ones soul and avoid letting this rotten age corrupt you while it bottoms out.

>> No.11369499

>>11367177
"If you feel inadequate in the modern world, you are actually a magical superman and the embryo of a new warrior-aristocracy that will not be military defeated by the weak materialists like every time before. Now check it out while I live a hedonist lifestyle and misread a bunch of buddhists texts and proceed to say that they say the opposite of what they actually say"

>> No.11369578

>>11368771
>>11367490
The book is titled "a survival manual for aristocrats of the soul". This is really inaccurate, the only advice given is to "b urself" and "do what ya gotta do". The rest of it is just societal critique like in his other political works. It might as well have been called revolt against the modern world part 2 desu.

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>>11367595
>>11367683
/lit/ is an anti-Jazz board, my friend.

>> No.11369631

>>11369578
They don't tell you this over at /pol/ where you come from, but Nietzsche is required reading for most of Evola's work. The conclusion is esoteric, to go within yourself, it's a transcendental solution to Nietzsche.

>> No.11369772

>>11369631
Oh, that's interesting. I'll probably do that, then give it another read. I had a feeling there had to be more to it than what what I got the first time round.

>> No.11369806

>>11367601
>>11367602
>>11367792
>>11369608
imagine being this much of a nerd

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>>11367663
>>11367611
>t. jazz fags
https://youtu.be/d075v_dl6lc
https://youtu.be/WB6Ix1sw0iI

>> No.11370183

>>11367595
The point isn't the jazz you willing idiot, it's the disregard.

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11370654

>>11367477
based honestly. litterbugs should be shot and their children should be likewise murdered.